Banned Book Club: The Rules Of Attraction by Bret Easton Ellis
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- What better way to celebrate Valentine’s Day than with a lovely novel about the death of all romance and meaning! Join us in this mini-sode, where we cover “The Rules of Attraction”, the second novel from one of America’s most controversial writers, Bret Easton Ellis.
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Just commented on your cast of Less Than Zero. I had suggested covering this book. Thank you. Loved this book. Also want your opinions on Glamorama. Great job!!
One thing that pissed me off about the movie was not the movie itself. That phone call where Sean said "who's this? Patrick?"
My mom introduced me to this movie (albeit too early) and she said: "oh he must be the brother of the guy from American psycho."
During this time I had no idea who the author was and I dismissed her like "Mom just because they have the same last name doesn't mean they're related...
It pisses me off that she was right all along 😂😂😂😂
I found out after she died however.
The book is the novel version of Love Stinks.
Just ordered it after listening to you guys. I am obsessed with American Psycho and also loved Lunar Park (even though for different reasons).
The Informers is pretty awesome as well.
Camden is actually based off of Bennington college in Vermont that Bret attended. Also the party names and places like the end of the world are real…he used them in the book.
Yes that’s true! It makes you wonder how much of these stories were made up or actually happened. Donna Tartt’s The Secret History is almost like this one instead it’s Hampden College.
I feel like camden college brings all his characters together in one universe - it's unique and ultimately submerges you into their realm. but after making your point, I find it even more interesting
Yes! The variety of characters and threads Bret’s able to explore within a single cohesive universe is incredible. This weirdly heightens the sense of isolation of each of them. If you’re interested in more dynamic universes in fiction you should check out our next episode we will be announcing soon on Dante’s Inferno. The corollaries between Dante’s universe and Bret’s are amazing, even the first line of American Psycho is an Inferno reference. Both basically follow a journey through hell…
Sean is also Patrick Bateman's brother
Yes! We loved the chapter where Patrick Bateman narrates…
Really like you guys.
Great stuff, I will be reviewing the novel and film in the future.
I loved Less than Zero and American Psycho, however, reading The Rules of Attraction felt like WORK. It was interesting and creative but too bleak. It actually keeps me from reading Glamorama. I am reading The Shards now, though. 😊
I'm reading glamorama now and its really exciting, very fast paced and a different context to the other books. I recommend it
what is Lauren's back story? is it in more detail on the book about where she's from?
Fueling my desire to read!
We like to hear that!! ❤️
Amazing podcast
Much appreciated!
Brett is my boy. Any recommendations of authors in the same vein?
We love BEE! We’d recommend Chuck Palaniuk, Jay McInerney, Donna Tart, Raymond Chandler to name a few....
@@bannedbookclub I've read the first 2 but I will check out the others. Thanks!
@@jonesfuture The Secret History is kinda in the BEE-universe. It's set in the same college just with a different name. In RoA someone refers to "that group of weird classics majors" (or something) and that group are the characters of Tartt's book. It's interesting to see the lifestyle of Ellis' charaters from the outside.
Roberto Bolano - 2666, Savage Detectives.
Chuck Palahniuk in some ways. Not afraid to shock you. Chuck is fascinating! Great author!
love this book
One of our favorites too!
Just curious but did you all prefer the book or the movie?
Hmm the movie is actually one of our favorites. It’s the closest adaptation to a BEE novel. But of course, nothing beats the book!
How is Clay a scary character in Less Than Zero? Apathetic, maybe. But far from scary
Reading "Imperial Bedrooms" will give you the most comprehensive answer. I don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't read it, but the scary side of Clay that is shown more subtly in "Less Than Zero" begins to manifest in a much more blunt and horrifying way. But just looking at Clay in only the context of "Less Than Zero", he is already pretty much inhuman. The book follows him as he's exposed to more and more disturbing things, and the slight arc that his character has is his move from the apparent indifference to other's suffering to taking enjoyment in it. I think the moment where we can no longer excuse him as passive is the scene towards the end of the book with Julian, where there are hints that he is getting a certain pleasure. I used to think he was a kind of prototype for BEE's Patrick Bateman character, but even in the digressions of "American Psycho" there are signs of Bateman at least wanting to connect to other people. Clay is scarier because he is beyond even that. Maybe "Less Than Zero" means that he's something worse than neutral nothing, a malevolent force, a kind of American demon. See the devil horns they put on CLay's head for the "Imperial Bedrooms" cover art.
@@bannedbookclub the word you are looking for is «narcissist». The common point in all of Bret Easton’s books is narcissism, consumerism, toxic lifestyles. And the breakdown of the elite class. Where there is just focus on the bohemian lifestyle, and no focus on the classic virtues of the old elite like « stoicism», « hard work». And so on.