Seventh Day Adventists believe that the 7th Day is the Sabbath of the Lord Your God. I do think if you read Exodus 20:8-11 you will find that is the exact wording in the NIV Bible. So now let’s look at the Calendar Sunday-1 Monday-2 Tuesday-3 Wednesday-4 Thursday-5 Friday-6 Saturday-7. The Pope and the Catholic Church declared that Sunday (day 1) was the new sabbath by changing the “solemnity” from Saturday to Sunday in or near 336AD. So the SDA Denomination is actually following the Sabbath as written in the Commandment. Most Protestant Denominations are worshiping on the Catholic “sabbath” Sunday the first day. The pope and his Church and MOST Protestant Denominations are not following the Commandment worshiping on Catholic sabbath instead. History proves this post to be correct. You can like it or hate it but truth is still truth.
Remember the law of the Lord your God also says, " thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor" You are deliberately misrepresenting the truth.. SDAs DO NOT believe that Jesus is the devil in any way shape or form. They believe that the second goat in the day of atonement ceremony is representative of Satan.@@JamieElison
@@cecilarcher8916your confession of faith is ..the devil is the one (that bears the sins )..Leviticus 1610! that's written in your (investigative judgment)! That is your confession of faith when you become a member! you're the one that's doing exactly what you're accusing me of. Those words will be in front of you on your judgment day where are the sins at in Jesus Christ first Peter 2:24 or on the devil on the day of atonement ?(it all happens on the same day!!!!! on the day of atonement!
@@cecilarcher8916why does Isaiah 53. 1 Peter 2:24. In 2 Corinthians 5. All say the sins are in Jesus Christ not on the devil? You said they're on the devil in Leviticus 16:10 happens on the same day so( where did those sins go? )..(and how did they get on the cross?)?
@@JamieElison I think you need to check what happens to the second Goat and what will happen at the end of the world. Christ the sheep/first Goat bear all sins, and is killed just like he died for us on the cross, the second Goat was no killed but the sin (forgiven from the most holy place), during the day of atonement is heaped up on the second Goat and taken to the desert to die on its own,,,, now tell me between Jesus and the Devil who died and who is left in isolation alone?
*"The church of Rome having been conscious of their errors and corruptions, both in faith and manners, have sundry times pretended reformations; yet their great pride and infinite profit, arising from purgatory, pardons, and such like, hath hindered all such reformations. Therefore, to maintain their greatness, errors, and new articles of faith, 1. They have corrupted many of the ancient fathers, and reprinting them, make them speak as they would have them....2.They have written many books in the names of these ancient writers, and forged many decrees, canons, and councils, to bear false witness to them."* Christianography, part ii. p. 59, London, 1636.
Since when do apologists from the Sunday know anything about anything. We know these r puppets of Satan. They only repeat what they r told. Thanks for reacting to this. What can we do ??
*We read the following in the Catechism,* - *“In respecting religious liberty and the common good of [all], Christians [in the USA and elsewhere] should seek recognition of Sundays and the Church’s holy days as legal holidays.”* - Catechism of the Catholic Church, popular and definitive edition, 2000, par. 2188
@@seekertruth3577 this does not lead to respect for the common Good of all. It just takes away the freedom of religion written down in the USA’s constitution. To justify sin, ( the transgression of God’s law.) Or my freedom of my own faith as one who still Keep all ten of God’s commandments the way God wrote them down with his own finger. Exodus 20. 7,8,10. And not the way the Catholic Church change them. There are three of the Ten Commandments that the Catholic Church changed. Look at them in the Bible. Then look at the changes of the Catholic Church. It was prophesied that someone, Daniel 7 : 25. down in the future would try to do just that.
@@fournierro1: *I am in complete harmony with you.* - *The first Sabbath came about by God’s directive following the sixth day of Creation. *The universality of the Sabbath is rooted in Creation [Genesis 2:1-3]* - *In the heart of the Ten Commandments are transcribed the following:* - *“Remember* the *Sabbath [seventh] day to keep it holy* [set apart, dedicated to God]. [Exodus 20:8]* *Sabbath Day was Instituted Before Sin and before Jews Entered the World.* - *In the NT we are reminded,* - *and *“Jesus said…, *“The Sabbath was made for man,* not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath [and He has authority over it].”* Mark 2:27,28. *[No ethnic groups are mentioned].* *There is neither the slightest mention in the entire Bible that we have the option to choose any other day or of changing the Sabbath to Sunday or any other week day, nor did the apostle teach it.* *In Jesus Christ, we find the perfect model of obedience. As his disciples, we follow Christ's example as well as his commands. Our motivation for obedience is love: * - John 14:15 *“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.”* *The general concept of obedience both in the Old and New Testament relates to hearing or hearkening to a higher authority.* - *One of the Greek terms for obedience in the Bible conveys the idea of positioning oneself under someone by submitting to their authority and command.* - *Another Greek word for obey in the New Testament means* - *"to trust."* *According to Holman's Illustrated Bible Dictionary, a succinct definition of biblical obedience is "to hear God's Word and act accordingly."* - *And Eerdman's Bible Dictionary states, "True 'hearing,' or obedience, involves the physical hearing that inspires the hearer, and a belief or trust that in turn motivates the hearer to act in accordance with the speaker's desires."* - *Thus, biblical obedience to God means to hear, trust, submit and surrender to God and his Word.*
0:00 - Intro 2:33- Welcome Dr. O! 4:35 - Context of Dr. O's original message 11:41 - Catholic Publications do mention SDAs 14:49 - Official Sources from the Vatican 45:15 - The Double Standard of Myles 46:09 - Pope Sylvester's transference of the rest from Sabbath to Sunday 48:56 - More Quotes about Sunday and the Papacy 50:56 - 666? 53:23 - More Quotes 54:55 - The Sunday Law in the Catholic Catechism 56:07 - The Double Standard 58:33 - The Fruit of What Has Already Been Established 59:18 - Did EGW soften up on her views on the Papacy 1:00:35 - Does everyone at the Vatican know about SDAS? 1:01:54 - Making Excuses to Reject the Truth 1:02:59 - The Slippery and Slithery nature 1:04:30 - Closing Thoughts
The Adventists get their doctrines from scripture. But I find it hilarious that most of the great reformists during the dark ages who were priests themselves called the papacy the anti-Christ. When I read about Martin Luther who was a priest and called out the crimes committed by the church and the papacy then I believe them to be a credible source. The Canon and history both prove that Catholicism was cruel and despotic toward the children of God.
And now, the churches that descended from the brave Reformers are preaching LOVE AND UNITY with the antichrist POPE! Unfathomable. Their roots are GONE.
@@IvanMartinez-ld5mx just doing it the way wrote it down is what one needs to do. Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy. Six days one shall do all there work. but the Seventh Day is the Rest day of God. Inn it you shall not do your any
One doesn't have to understand all the controversy of Rome, The question we need to ask is, What was the nature and behaviors of Pegan Rome? They are now considered Papal Rome, but only the Word Pagan is changed.
The Catholic Church is trying to rewrite history. A Catholic apologist even claimed that sda are bad at research because the references used by sda are no longer where they were cited.
In a way, i think already Sunday is recognised legally as a holiday... In South Africa, if a public holiday is on Sunday, it is pushed to Monday so that it is not observed on a Sunday, but if it is on a Saturday, it is held on a Saturday.
As an Adventist I see this with much worry, that protestant America will have in any movie or film a priest instead of a Protestant minister. What is this monopoly in movies with Catholicism.
*In the words of Pope Benedict XVI,* - *“Social disorder, war, injustice and violence” can only be countered “ by renewed appreciation and respect for the universal moral law [Sunday observance], that only by recognizing that law can the world have “dignity, life and freedom” with “conditions of justice and peace” in all the communities of the world, and that the promotion and defense of this law is what “must govern relations between nations and peoples in the pursuit of the common good of the human family…within the international community.”* (Address of Pope Benedict XVI to H.E. Mr Francis Rooney, New Ambassador of the United States of America to the Holy See, Saturday, November 12, 2005.)
*Another of Pope Benedict XVI famous statements,* - *“Without the Lord’s day, we cannot live”,* that meeting with the Lord only occurs on the “specific day” of Sunday, that life does not flourish *without Sunday, and that Sunday is a day of rest, of freedom and equality for all the world.* (Eucharistic Celebration Homily of Pope Benedict XVI , Saint Stephen’s Cathedral, Vienna, Sunday, September 9, 2007.)
@@fournierro1 : *Absolutely!* - *The first Sabbath came about by God’s directive following the sixth day of Creation.* *The pagan day starts at **12:00** and goes back to ancient Egypt when the day was measured using sundials.* - *The shadow on the face of a sundial tells the time, and the shadow depends on where the sun is in the sky.* - *Since the highest point of the day was noon, the opposite has to be midnight that was when the 12 started over again.* - *The world has followed this pagan concept for millennia.* *The key to properly account for this is to understand God’s definition of a “Day,” which is a period of time from “sunset to sunset”* [Genesis 1:5, 8, 13, 19, 23, 31; Leviticus 23:32].* - *The Biblical day is divided into 12 Hours/Parts of Daytime [John 11:9].* *In the Bible, the days were named 1st day, 2nd day -etc. Read Genesis 1:3,13,19,23, and 31 and Genesis 2:2-3.* - *Sunday was traditionally regarded as the first day of the week by both Christians and Jews.* - *As such, feria prima means the “first [day] after the holy day” [i.e., the first day after Sabbath].* - *In later centuries, the name of the first day of the week was changed from feria prima to dominica or dies dominicus, “day of the Lord,” but this was a later development.* In Hebrew, the days of the week are simply numbered, except for the 7th, which is the Sabbath [Šabbat, שַׁבָּת Sabbath]. *Interestingly, the 6th day in Greek is Paraskeuê [Παρασκευή], the "Preparation."* - *This is actually the Jewish term, as preparation is made on the 6th day for the Sabbath -- preserved in a language today almost entirely of Christians,* - *but formerly of many Jews in the Hellenistic and Roman periods, through Mediaeval Romania.* *In Arabic, the days of the week are also numbered, and the 7th day is still the Sabbath (ʾas-Sabt, ), but the 6th day is now ʾal-Jumʿah ( ), the day of "gathering" (jumʿ, ), when Muslims pray at the mosque (jâmiʿ,).*
Brother Jason from SFP why u call yourself Dr. ? Heard you going to be in the next movie. Love u guys brother Randy thought u was tired at the beginning. Met Dr. O for the first time. To everyone everything is always proven from Scripture and yes the Catholics do know about the SDA and yes they even quoted from Ellen White. Keep teaching TRUTH even West Africa knows about SDA . When I went their I was amaze of all the churches they've. I thought since they're doctrinanted in Islam I truly was shock.
Artthur and Teresa Beem are trying to justify themselves in their comments. My grandfather is Catholic. When my parents where teaching him the Bible, they asked him what day was the Sabbath, he said it was Sunday and insisted on it. To say this is not what Catholic believes is a trying to justify
*I know that ADL does not delete comments. I've just posted a web link and it was deleted.* *Edited:* - *Please google The Gospel Guardian.* Select Volume 14 Scroll to Issue No. 30 - November 29, 1962, and Select click on 'Let the Catholic Church Speak For Herself". [You will find Questions and Answers]
@@dekush7667: - *It must never be forgotten that their structure is a totalitarian hierarchy. It's an absolute, unlimited, tyrannical monarchy, a worldly, secular government.* - *It has its territorial dominions; it has its court, ambassadors, detective force, legislature, jurisprudence, advocates, prison, taxes, bank, concordats, ambitious plans and policy, is more widely spread than any secular nation and entrenched in many countries.* - *It is also very different from other secular powers. Her spiritual commerce goes hand in hand with her civil power, claiming infallibility and international recognition.* - Thus, any regaining of its previous power would likely involve control of world leaders and their policies.*
*Pope Benedict XVI also said,* - *“Sunday is an “obligation* for all the faithful” which brings “authentic freedom enabling them to live each day”, that it is the Lord’s day, that it is “a day to be sanctified”, and those who do not keep it suffer “the loss of an authentic sense of Christian freedom” and the loss of being “the children of God”, that Sunday is the “primordial holy day” and “is meant to be kept holy”, “a day of rest from work”, which hopefully “will also be recognized by civil society” by law. - (Sacramentum Caritatis: Post-Synodal Apostolic Exhortation on the Eucharist as the Source and Summit of the Church’s Life and Mission, Given by Pope Benedict XVI in Rome, at Saint Peter’s, February 22, 2007, the Feast of the Chair of Peter.)
Thanking God for this video, it is the Holy Spirit that reveals, and provides access to the plain unmistakeble truth. May our Almighty God be glorified through his human instruments. Thanking God for the Gospel. While Jesus is lifted up, He will draw all men towards Him. Praying for the Holy Spirit to open the eyes of all spiritual blind, in every church, in every denomination, that the Holy Spirit may convert hearts and lead them to Jesus. May God prepare all hearts that will preach and those that will receive and give the Third Angeles Message. May God preserve as as His true worshipers, and that may Jesus seals us and may we fulfill our highest dream that is to share the everlasting gospel, oh that many can be save through the blood of Jesus. Thanking you brothers, Children of the Living God for this amazing presentation. Praising God that you are not embarassed of the gospel. Numbers 6:24-26 The Lord bless you and keep you; 25 the Lord make his face shine on you and be gracious to you; 26 the Lord turn his face toward you and give you peace.
Question. Did tge Catholic defender showed what the Catholics actually believed since it sounded like he didn't agree with the S.D.A's views of the R.C.C and the paper trail historical views of the R.C.C beliefs.
It's very possible he is making a living working for the Jezzies. He surely is selling his soul for their cause. His wrath is storing up for that great day. He will regret his folly.
@@FAITHFreedomFirearms How about James Baber? He's the granddaddy of all these haters of SDA truth! He says he sits in his office 15 hours a day, trying to "defeat adventism," so where is his loot coming from? He doesn't look homeless or broke.
@@jeanclaude7018 The enemy is ramping up their attacks on God's people, and unfortunately, I believe they have just begun. Their attacks are too well-coordinated to be a coincidence.
@@FAITHFreedomFirearms Rome is very cunning, and has very strong secret organization in her jesuit army, under the devil. EGW SAYS: " Marvellous in her shrewdness and cunning is the Roman Catholic church. She can read what is to be. She bides her time, seeing that protestants are paying homage to the false Sabbath .."
There are many catholic people who don’t know what great controversy says or that they are in Babylon , you cannot speak for the Catholics as a whole Dr O
*Currently, the Holy See maintains full diplomatic relations with one hundred eighty-three (183) countries out of the one hundred ninety-three (193) member countries of the UN.* *In comparison, China has an ambassador in 169 countries, the United States in 168 countries and France in 161 countries.* *“They [Catholics] must penetrate wherever possible in the administration of civil affairs… all Catholics should do all in their power to cause the constitution of states, and legislation to be modeled on the principles of the true Church.”* -Encyclical of Leo XIII. *‘No political event or circumstance can be evaluated without the knowledge of the Vatican’s part in it. And no significant world political situation exists in which the Vatican does not play an important, explicit or implicit part.’* - Guy Emery Shipler *Many questions have been raised about the role of the Catholic Church at the United Nations as a result of its high-profile and controversial role at international conferences.* - *Participating as a full-fledged state actor in these conferences, the Holy See often goes against the overwhelming consensus of member states and seeks provisions in international documents that would limit the health rights of all people, but especially women.* *How did the Holy See, the government of the Roman Catholic church come to enjoy this privileged position - held by no other religion - that gives it a voice at international conferences on some of the most sensitive issues of our time?* - *Is there a difference between the Holy See, Vatican City and the Roman Catholic church?* - *In the context of the United Nations, is the Holy See a state or a religion?* *The Holy See is the spiritual and temporal government of the Roman Catholic church. It consists of the pope, the Roman Curia - the various departments and institutes that assist the pope in running the church - and the College of Cardinals.* - *The Holy See is the government of the Vatican City.* *Vatican City is the temporal residence of both the Holy See and the Roman Catholic church. It is the world's smallest "city-state" at 108.7 acres. It houses the infrastructure of the Roman Catholic church: the pope's palace, St Peter's Basilica, offices and administrations services and libraries and archives. Vatican City was created in 1929 under a treaty signed between Benito Mussolini and Pietro Cardinale Gasparri, secretary of state to Pope Pius XI. The Lateran Treaty was designed to compensate the pope for the 1870 annexation of the Papal States, which consisted of 17,218 square miles in central Italy, and to guarantee the "indisputable sovereignty" of the Holy See by granting it physical territory.* *According to Archbishop Hyginus Eugene Cardinale, a former Vatican diplomat who wrote the authoritative work on the Holy See and international relations, the Holy See "exists and operates within the international community as the juridicial personification of the Church."* The Holy See owes its participation in the UN to an accident of history - the membership of Vatican City to the Universal Postal Union and the International Telecommunications Union. The Vatican is a member of these unions because it owns postal and radio services. Soon after its formation, the UN invited these organisations and their members to attend UN sessions on an ad hoc basis, which the Vatican did.
Yeah but what is Daniel 814 say that created you in the 1st place the second vision so-called vision was the Sabbath she never kept it before. So what created the scenario in the first place?
@@JamieElison Oh, hi Jamie, thanks for helping the algorithm with your pointless questions, weird that you didn't accuse us of breaking the 9th commandment this time, or used a strawman, are you okay buddy? ... Oh, no, wait, you actually DID use a strawman, huh? Impressive, not even once you cease to use that fallacy, oh boy.
@@MajorGariyou answer like a 10 year old child with no substance you can't support anything you say. You just got to say something but it doesn't mean anything
*God warns people not to fall into idolatry and false worship and to avoid such practices because it leads to sin. Consider the following text:* *‘Then the Lord said, “Because this people approaches Me with their words And honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far away from Me, And their reverence for Me consists of the commandment of men that is taught.’* Isaiah 29:13 The Oxford dictionary defines an *idol* as: *“An image or representation of a god used as an object of worship; in extended usage, a person or thing that is greatly admired, loved, or revered.”* *What does the Bible say about images and idols?* Exodus 20:4, 5* - *a]* - “Thou shalt not *MAKE* unto thee *ANY* graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in *HEAVEN* above, or that is in the *EARTH* beneath, or that is in the *WATER* under the earth. *b]* Thou shalt not *BOW DOWN* thyself to them. *c]* Nor *SERVE* them.” If you *MAKE* any graven image you have broken this commandment, whether you worship it or not. Do Catholics *MAKE* graven images? *Yes.* Do Catholics *KNEEL* down to statues of Mary or Jesus? *Yes.* Do Catholics *SERVE* Mary? *Yes,* as in "Legion of Mary." *The liturgical feasts dedicated to the Mother of God and Marian prayer, such as the rosary, an* - *“epitome of the whole Gospel,” express this devotion to the Virgin Mary.”* Cf. Paul VI, MC 42; SC 103. *You may call it whatever you like, when you bow yourself to a statue or erect a statue of Mary, and pray to her, it is WORSHIP. God hates this practice. God will not share his glory with anyone, because He alone is worthy to accept praise and honor and worship.* *The fact is that Roman Catholics say they don’t worship Mary, and yet they do everything consistent with the essence of worship while denying that they actually do it.* *“Let us turn in prayer to Mary,* Mother of the Church and Mother of our faith. Mother, help our faith! Open our ears to hear God’s word and to recognize his voice and call…”* “This twofold movement of *prayer to Mary has found a privileged expression in the Ave Maria: Hail Mary* [or Rejoice, Mary]: the greeting of the angel Gabriel opens this prayer…” (CCC 2676) Leviticus 26:1 *a]* "You shall *MAKE* you *NO IDOLS* nor *GRAVEN IMAGE.* -*b]* Neither rear you up a *STANDING IMAGE.* - *c]* Neither shall ye set up any *IMAGE OF STONE* in your land to bow down unto it."* *Do Catholics rear up STANDING IMAGES?* - *Yes.* *Do Catholics set up any IMAGE OF STONE?* - *Yes.* Deuteronomy 4:16 *"Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and MAKE you a GRAVEN IMAGE, the similitude of ANY FIGURE, the likeness of MALE or FEMALE."* *Do Catholics make graven images of MALE or FEMALE?* - *Yes.* Mary is a female. Jesus and the apostles are males. Deuteronomy 16:22 *"Neither shalt thou SET thee UP ANY IMAGE: which the Lord thy God HATES."* *Do Catholics SET UP ANY IMAGES?* - *Yes.* *Does God HATE IMAGES?* - *Yes.* Thessalonians 1:9 *"How ye turned to God FROM IDOLS to serve the living and true God."* *Did the early Christians turn FROM IDOLS?* - *Yes.* Deuteronomy 27:15 *"CURSED be the man that MAKES ANY GRAVEN or MOLTEN IMAGE, an abomination unto the Lord, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place."* *Does God put a curse on any person that makes any image?* - *Yes.* *Why does God call an image an ABOMINATION?* - *Because He hates it.* Isaiah 40:18,19 "To whom then will ye liken God? or what *LIKENESS* will ye *compare* unto him? The workman melteth a graven image" *Note:* God has no visible form and we cannot liken him to any material object. The Catholic answer is that they say that they do not *worship* images. *God's reply is not to MAKE IMAGES.* *The early Christians had NO IMAGES.* Early Christian writers such as Irenaeus, Clement, Cyprian, Athanasius, and Jerome, wrote strongly *AGAINST* images, statues, and any manner of prayer or veneration regarding them. The Council of Constantinople in 381 A.D. voted unanimously to remove all images from the churches. *The Catholic church removes the second commandment against MAKING* graven images from the list of 10 Commandments in Exodus 20:1-17. This presents them with the problem of *only having 9 commandments.* *They resolve this problem by dividing commandment number 10 into 9 and 10 as follows:* *9* You shall not covet your neighbour’s *wife.* *10* You shall not covet your neighbour’s *goods.*
Maybe it's been presented on this channel or in the comments already but I'm finishing a very interesting book called 50 Years in the Roman Church the Conversion of a Priest written in 1886 by the priest himself, Charles Chiniquy. There is an 800 page free version online. The ones for sale are abridged copies.
Is saddens me that SDA is only want to talk about Sunday but the fact is the market authority is not only Sunday worship with the Trinity also what stas don't want to talk about that thank the Lord I'm OTG
I assure you, that you guys are not understanding Catholicism. The first thing I'll bring up is the fact that it is 2000 years old and has gone over the entire earth. There are over a billion Catholics and each of them have an opinion and they can see things differently. For this entire time, Catholics have gone back and forth about the Sabbath. Some popes have said Sunday is very close to the Sabbath, same type of thing. Some popes have said absolutely no Sunday is NOT a Sabbath and one even said that if someone says Sunday is a Sabbath they are the antichrist. You guys ONLY show the one side. Which is false information. The church has allowed popes, cardinals, bishops, priests and laymen to discuss and debate this idea without coming out and making a definitive ruling. SOME bishops (who have authority over certain areas have made Sunday rulings that look very much like Sunday is a Sabbath.) But it wasn't until the 20th century that universally Catholics had to attend worship on Sunday--there was a Sunday obligation. Granted, most bishops did require it before then, but that was the OFFICIAL time Sunday obligation was made a universal mandate. After the Reformation there was a time when the Sabbath issue was a BIG debate among Reformers. Calvinists took the position that Sunday was the new Sabbath, other Christians argued against that. William Miller argued that Sunday WAS the Sabbath because Sunday was the first day Adam and Eve were alive and that was the 7th day for God. Therefore, he argued, the 1st day for humans IS the legitimate 7th day Sabbath of God. This became such a big deal (in fact more theological book were written about the Sabbath than any other topic 17th century, post Reformation). This timeframe came to be called the era of the Sabbath Wars. This became the context of most of your quotes you read. (Notice they are mostly in English. Official Vatican documents are written in Latin and translated.So always check to make sure whatever you are referencing as authoritatively Catholic was originally in Latin.) To continue, American anti-catholicism was so persistent during the 19th century that American priests argued with Protestant pastors and scholars that there was no reason to hate Catholics. You get The LORD's DAY from them. The point was that if you are going to hate Catholicism, realize that you get the ONLY day Protestants have corporate worship from Catholic tradition, not from the Bible. Catholic worship daily publicly, they have daily mass, therefore the one day a week worship is an unknown concept to Catholics. The stress of the Industrial Revolution kept many Catholics from attending worship EVER. So in order to get American Catholics to fight for their right to go to church at least once a week, they put pressure on them to fight for a Sunday blue law. Blue laws were not in effect to persecute or downplay Adventists and Jews who worshipped on Saturday. No, Catholics had historically been able to go to an early mass daily with a bigger celebration on Sunday as the Lord's Day--the Day the Lord rose from the dead. Adventists may disagree with Catholic theology, but at least understand what happened that created the stress of Catholic reactions both in their defensive laws protecting at least one day of worship for them. Another thing, when a Catholic claims THEY changed the day of worship, what they are actually saying is that the Lord told the Apostles (Act 1) after His resurrection during those 40 days before His ascension into heaven that all Christians are to commemorate the day of His resurrection. The Apostles passed Jesus commandments on. Catholics believe they go back to Christ Himself and were not formed as a Church later on. This is what Catholics believe so when they say "they" changed it, they DO NOT mean a bunch of popes or at a council they got together and said, "let anyone who doesn't keep Sunday as a Sabbath be an anathema." Not at all. Christians kept Sunday as a holy day since the Sunday AFTER Christ resurrected. From the beginning. Not sometime later. Again you may disagree with that belief, but understand that is HOW Catholics mean it. www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P7O.HTM This is from the OFFICIAL Vatican Website: 2178 This practice of the Christian assembly [Lord's Day] dates from the beginnings of the apostolic age. Please read the entirety of the Catechism on this and you will find that it says, 2175 Sunday is expressly distinguished from the sabbath which it follows chronologically every week; for Christians its ceremonial observance replaces that of the sabbath. In Christ's Passover, Sunday fulfills the spiritual truth of the Jewish sabbath and announces man's eternal rest in God. For worship under the Law prepared for the mystery of Christ, and what was done there prefigured some aspects of Christ. The footnote on this is : St. Ignatius of Antioch, Ad Magn. 9, 1: SCh 10, 88. Ignatius is a second century bishop who was martyred for the faith. He wrote, "Those who lived according to the old order of things have come to a new hope, no longer keeping the sabbath, but the Lord's Day, in which our life is blessed by him and by his death." Catholics believe that Sunday is holy BECAUSE CHRIST made it holy, not the church. Well, in fact they really wouldn't agree with that because Catholics believe the Church IS the body of Christ on earth. So please try to understand the quotes within this context. It will not change your beliefs, but at least you will not represent the church as having decreed Sunday a Sabbath. There are no official documents that have a direct "thus saith the church." It is a developing tradition that Sunday is similar to the Jewish Sabbath but in the end, it is not a day that gives us rest, but Christ. When you go to Rome, you will hear Catholics, priests and even the pope refer to the 7th day as the Sabbath. That is what Catholics understand the Sabbath to be. Sunday is different in the same way baptism is different from circumcision, but one fulfilled the other and replaced it. In Rome Sunday is the Lord's Day and Saturday is the Sabbath. No confusion at the Vatican at all. Approximately 10 times as many Catholics attend worship on the 7th day as Adventists do in the U.S. There is no way Catholics are ever going to keep Adventists from worshipping on the Sabbath because THEY do. Always have, always will. Catholics have always had public worship daily. Just like Israel did at the Temple. God's people have always worshipped Him publicly at a communal service 24/7 across the world. This idea of a "day" of worship is non-existent to Christians pre-Reformation.
Thanks for this synopsis! The underlying issue is God said before sin entered the world to keep the 7th day as a special holy day. All the other days we are also meant to commune and bond with Him. But the 7th day is meant to be set apart as special. God never changes. He reiterated it in the 10 commandments. While our understanding of God changes and advances, what God has said remains firm. His law (10 commandments and not the ceremonial law done away with at the cross) is binding. The apostles did not establish Sunday as a holy Sabbath day, nor a feast day to commemorate the resurrection. Baptism is the commemoration of resurrection (we come up from the water a new creature, Christ living through us). We also commemorate His death by the communion service, which Christ said is the remembrance for His death. When Cain offered beautiful fruit in worship to God, the onlooker looking in would have thought what a beautiful act of worship. But God did not accept Cain’s fruit. It doesn’t matter if our motives are to worship God out of the most zealous love a human heart can offer, if we do not do what He asks us to do, and we know better, He does not accept it. He asked us to love Him by keeping His commandments, not doing what we think is ok. One day everyone will know and be faced with this choice. It doesn’t matter if the Catholic Church said Sunday is or is not the Sabbath. It doesn’t matter if I treat various days as the Sabbath. If I am not honoring the 7th day Sabbath as set apart from the other 6 days, then I am offering Cain’s fruit.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. Matthew 5:19 You two are beautiful souls!! We can feel the love flowing from your hearts. But please, don’t teach contrary to the truth of God’s law. Time is running out
@@stargazerlily7016 Catholics uphold Christ's law, we would never ever preach against it. It's all about HOW you interpret scripture. It's about what God MEANS in scripture. Everyone understands reality differently and so everyone reads scripture slightly differently. So while the Bible seems to say something CLEARLY to you, it seems to say something quite clearly differently to me. I don't know what to do with that. I wish that God sent someone with His authorization to be able to referee these things and tell us just who is reading His Words correctly and who is reading it incorrectly.
@@arthurandteresabeem7142 God has given us all we need in Scripture, you do want someone coming and claiming to impart true Scripture, 2 Corinthians 11: 13-15 says "13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works".
@@MrGlacierpoint1 they only told you the truth.. the the critics. Are people actually telling you the truth!. But they use myles material more than they practically do anybody else...( And they'll never debate me right on the TH-cam channel itse( in the in this column)!!!! they won't do it.. they come up with every excuse under the sun because they know they can't defend anything they teach from the( Bible itself)! (Unless they take things out of context.) Which is not a defense! . Because they don't like to have their words written down! And they can't defend one thing that they believe!
@@JamieElison look in the Playlist. There are over 250 videos that have nothing to do with Myles. Also your comments are not deleted. ADL keeps your comments because you help the channel to grow. The more you comment on a video, the more youtube promotes the channel. So ADL appreciates you for that.
Seventh Day Adventists believe that the 7th Day is the Sabbath of the Lord Your God. I do think if you read Exodus 20:8-11 you will find that is the exact wording in the NIV Bible. So now let’s look at the Calendar Sunday-1 Monday-2 Tuesday-3 Wednesday-4 Thursday-5 Friday-6 Saturday-7. The Pope and the Catholic Church declared that Sunday (day 1) was the new sabbath by changing the “solemnity” from Saturday to Sunday in or near 336AD. So the SDA Denomination is actually following the Sabbath as written in the Commandment. Most Protestant Denominations are worshiping on the Catholic “sabbath” Sunday the first day. The pope and his Church and MOST Protestant Denominations are not following the Commandment worshiping on Catholic sabbath instead. History proves this post to be correct. You can like it or hate it but truth is still truth.
And they also believe the devil is Jesus Christ on the cross bearing the sins. Based on saying the second goat is the devil!
Remember the law of the Lord your God also says, " thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor" You are deliberately misrepresenting the truth.. SDAs DO NOT believe that Jesus is the devil in any way shape or form. They believe that the second goat in the day of atonement ceremony is representative of Satan.@@JamieElison
@@cecilarcher8916your confession of faith is ..the devil is the one (that bears the sins )..Leviticus 1610! that's written in your (investigative judgment)! That is your confession of faith when you become a member! you're the one that's doing exactly what you're accusing me of. Those words will be in front of you on your judgment day where are the sins at in Jesus Christ first Peter 2:24 or on the devil on the day of atonement ?(it all happens on the same day!!!!! on the day of atonement!
@@cecilarcher8916why does Isaiah 53. 1 Peter 2:24. In 2 Corinthians 5. All say the sins are in Jesus Christ not on the devil? You said they're on the devil in Leviticus 16:10 happens on the same day so( where did those sins go? )..(and how did they get on the cross?)?
@@JamieElison I think you need to check what happens to the second Goat and what will happen at the end of the world. Christ the sheep/first Goat bear all sins, and is killed just like he died for us on the cross, the second Goat was no killed but the sin (forgiven from the most holy place), during the day of atonement is heaped up on the second Goat and taken to the desert to die on its own,,,, now tell me between Jesus and the Devil who died and who is left in isolation alone?
I wish I could've watched this live. But , I am thankful that I can watch it while at work. 🙏🏻
*"The church of Rome having been conscious of their errors and corruptions, both in faith and manners, have sundry times pretended reformations; yet their great pride and infinite profit, arising from purgatory, pardons, and such like, hath hindered all such reformations. Therefore, to maintain their greatness, errors, and new articles of faith, 1. They have corrupted many of the ancient fathers, and reprinting them, make them speak as they would have them....2.They have written many books in the names of these ancient writers, and forged many decrees, canons, and councils, to bear false witness to them."* Christianography, part ii. p. 59, London, 1636.
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend “. Basically what I see from our critics.
Since when do apologists from the Sunday know anything about anything. We know these r puppets of Satan. They only repeat what they r told. Thanks for reacting to this. What can we do ??
You can pray for us and for those deceived by the critics
@@alexsuarez3704 one just needs to do it the way God structure it and call it a day.
Really good job gentlemen on your research. I loved how you showed me the Catholic websites for references.
*We read the following in the Catechism,* - *“In respecting religious liberty and the common good of [all], Christians [in the USA and elsewhere] should seek recognition of Sundays and the Church’s holy days as legal holidays.”* - Catechism of the Catholic Church, popular and definitive edition, 2000, par. 2188
@@seekertruth3577 one does best to accept the 10 Commandments the way God wrote them down. Yes all ten of them. Exodus 20
@@seekertruth3577 this does not lead to respect for the common Good of all. It just takes away the freedom of religion written down in the USA’s constitution. To justify sin, ( the transgression of God’s law.) Or my freedom of my own faith as one who still Keep all ten of God’s commandments the way God wrote them down with his own finger. Exodus 20. 7,8,10. And not the way the Catholic Church change them. There are three of the Ten Commandments that the Catholic Church changed. Look at them in the Bible. Then look at the changes of the Catholic Church. It was prophesied that someone, Daniel 7 : 25. down in the future would try to do just that.
@@fournierro1: *I am in complete harmony with you.* - *The first Sabbath came about by God’s directive following the sixth day of Creation. *The universality of the Sabbath is rooted in Creation [Genesis 2:1-3]* - *In the heart of the Ten Commandments are transcribed the following:* - *“Remember* the *Sabbath [seventh] day to keep it holy* [set apart, dedicated to God]. [Exodus 20:8]*
*Sabbath Day was Instituted Before Sin and before Jews Entered the World.* - *In the NT we are reminded,* - *and *“Jesus said…, *“The Sabbath was made for man,* not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath [and He has authority over it].”* Mark 2:27,28. *[No ethnic groups are mentioned].*
*There is neither the slightest mention in the entire Bible that we have the option to choose any other day or of changing the Sabbath to Sunday or any other week day, nor did the apostle teach it.*
*In Jesus Christ, we find the perfect model of obedience. As his disciples, we follow Christ's example as well as his commands. Our motivation for obedience is love: * - John 14:15 *“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.”*
*The general concept of obedience both in the Old and New Testament relates to hearing or hearkening to a higher authority.* - *One of the Greek terms for obedience in the Bible conveys the idea of positioning oneself under someone by submitting to their authority and command.* - *Another Greek word for obey in the New Testament means* - *"to trust."*
*According to Holman's Illustrated Bible Dictionary, a succinct definition of biblical obedience is "to hear God's Word and act accordingly."* - *And Eerdman's Bible Dictionary states, "True 'hearing,' or obedience, involves the physical hearing that inspires the hearer, and a belief or trust that in turn motivates the hearer to act in accordance with the speaker's desires."* - *Thus, biblical obedience to God means to hear, trust, submit and surrender to God and his Word.*
0:00 - Intro
2:33- Welcome Dr. O!
4:35 - Context of Dr. O's original message
11:41 - Catholic Publications do mention SDAs
14:49 - Official Sources from the Vatican
45:15 - The Double Standard of Myles
46:09 - Pope Sylvester's transference of the rest from Sabbath to Sunday
48:56 - More Quotes about Sunday and the Papacy
50:56 - 666?
53:23 - More Quotes
54:55 - The Sunday Law in the Catholic Catechism
56:07 - The Double Standard
58:33 - The Fruit of What Has Already Been Established
59:18 - Did EGW soften up on her views on the Papacy
1:00:35 - Does everyone at the Vatican know about SDAS?
1:01:54 - Making Excuses to Reject the Truth
1:02:59 - The Slippery and Slithery nature
1:04:30 - Closing Thoughts
Thank you for doing that!
The Adventists get their doctrines from scripture. But I find it hilarious that most of the great reformists during the dark ages who were priests themselves called the papacy the anti-Christ. When I read about Martin Luther who was a priest and called out the crimes committed by the church and the papacy then I believe them to be a credible source. The Canon and history both prove that Catholicism was cruel and despotic toward the children of God.
And now, the churches that descended from the brave Reformers are preaching LOVE AND UNITY with the antichrist POPE! Unfathomable. Their roots are GONE.
@@IvanMartinez-ld5mx just doing it the way wrote it down is what one needs to do. Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy. Six days one shall do all there work. but the Seventh Day is the Rest day of God. Inn it you shall not do your any
Any work for it is the day God set aside for all to acknowledge Him.
@@fournierro1 Yes, "THE" day, not just any one of the 7 days, or no day at all.
One doesn't have to understand all the controversy of Rome, The question we need to ask is, What was the nature and behaviors of Pegan Rome?
They are now considered Papal Rome, but only the Word Pagan is changed.
The Catholic Church is trying to rewrite history. A Catholic apologist even claimed that sda are bad at research because the references used by sda are no longer where they were cited.
In a way, i think already Sunday is recognised legally as a holiday... In South Africa, if a public holiday is on Sunday, it is pushed to Monday so that it is not observed on a Sunday, but if it is on a Saturday, it is held on a Saturday.
As an Adventist I see this with much worry, that protestant America will have in any movie or film a priest instead of a Protestant minister. What is this monopoly in movies with Catholicism.
Who do you suppose OWNS the movie industry? Of course, it's the Jezzies of Rome.
*In the words of Pope Benedict XVI,* - *“Social disorder, war, injustice and violence” can only be countered “ by renewed appreciation and respect for the universal moral law [Sunday observance], that only by recognizing that law can the world have “dignity, life and freedom” with “conditions of justice and peace” in all the communities of the world, and that the promotion and defense of this law is what “must govern relations between nations and peoples in the pursuit of the common good of the human family…within the international community.”* (Address of Pope Benedict XVI to H.E. Mr Francis Rooney, New Ambassador of the United States of America to the Holy See, Saturday, November 12, 2005.)
Great program and very informative!
Thank you
The presentation of the scriptures proves.
*Another of Pope Benedict XVI famous statements,* - *“Without the Lord’s day, we cannot live”,* that meeting with the Lord only occurs on the “specific day” of Sunday, that life does not flourish *without Sunday, and that Sunday is a day of rest, of freedom and equality for all the world.* (Eucharistic Celebration Homily of Pope Benedict XVI , Saint Stephen’s Cathedral, Vienna, Sunday, September 9, 2007.)
@@seekertruth3577 remember the Sabbath day, ( Friday sun set to Saturday sunset. One of the Ten Commandments. The 4 th one.
@@fournierro1 : *Absolutely!* - *The first Sabbath came about by God’s directive following the sixth day of Creation.*
*The pagan day starts at **12:00** and goes back to ancient Egypt when the day was measured using sundials.* - *The shadow on the face of a sundial tells the time, and the shadow depends on where the sun is in the sky.* - *Since the highest point of the day was noon, the opposite has to be midnight that was when the 12 started over again.* - *The world has followed this pagan concept for millennia.*
*The key to properly account for this is to understand God’s definition of a “Day,” which is a period of time from “sunset to sunset”* [Genesis 1:5, 8, 13, 19, 23, 31; Leviticus 23:32].* - *The Biblical day is divided into 12 Hours/Parts of Daytime [John 11:9].*
*In the Bible, the days were named 1st day, 2nd day -etc. Read Genesis 1:3,13,19,23, and 31 and Genesis 2:2-3.* - *Sunday was traditionally regarded as the first day of the week by both Christians and Jews.* - *As such, feria prima means the “first [day] after the holy day” [i.e., the first day after Sabbath].* - *In later centuries, the name of the first day of the week was changed from feria prima to dominica or dies dominicus, “day of the Lord,” but this was a later development.*
In Hebrew, the days of the week are simply numbered, except for the 7th, which is the Sabbath [Šabbat, שַׁבָּת Sabbath].
*Interestingly, the 6th day in Greek is Paraskeuê [Παρασκευή], the "Preparation."* - *This is actually the Jewish term, as preparation is made on the 6th day for the Sabbath -- preserved in a language today almost entirely of Christians,* - *but formerly of many Jews in the Hellenistic and Roman periods, through Mediaeval Romania.*
*In Arabic, the days of the week are also numbered, and the 7th day is still the Sabbath (ʾas-Sabt, ), but the 6th day is now ʾal-Jumʿah ( ), the day of "gathering" (jumʿ, ), when Muslims pray at the mosque (jâmiʿ,).*
@@seekertruth3577 great point
Brother Jason from SFP why u call yourself Dr. ? Heard you going to be in the next movie. Love u guys brother Randy thought u was tired at the beginning. Met Dr. O for the first time. To everyone everything is always proven from Scripture and yes the Catholics do know about the SDA and yes they even quoted from Ellen White. Keep teaching TRUTH even West Africa knows about SDA . When I went their I was amaze of all the churches they've. I thought since they're doctrinanted in Islam I truly was shock.
So they're all deceived just what you said
@@JamieElison
lol. The funny part is you have no idea what SDA believe. So you have no idea if we are deceived or not.
We really don’t need to be cheering for one another, glory to God ,God only
Happy Sunday the Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ Amen and praise the Lord God Almighty 🙏✝️🕊
Artthur and Teresa Beem are trying to justify themselves in their comments. My grandfather is Catholic. When my parents where teaching him the Bible, they asked him what day was the Sabbath, he said it was Sunday and insisted on it. To say this is not what Catholic believes is a trying to justify
*I know that ADL does not delete comments. I've just posted a web link and it was deleted.*
*Edited:* - *Please google The Gospel Guardian.*
Select Volume 14
Scroll to Issue No. 30 - November 29, 1962, and Select click on 'Let the Catholic Church Speak For Herself". [You will find Questions and Answers]
this is very eye opening. thank you for all your efforts.
@@dekush7667: - *It must never be forgotten that their structure is a totalitarian hierarchy. It's an absolute, unlimited, tyrannical monarchy, a worldly, secular government.* - *It has its territorial dominions; it has its court, ambassadors, detective force, legislature, jurisprudence, advocates, prison, taxes, bank, concordats, ambitious plans and policy, is more widely spread than any secular nation and entrenched in many countries.* - *It is also very different from other secular powers. Her spiritual commerce goes hand in hand with her civil power, claiming infallibility and international recognition.* - Thus, any regaining of its previous power would likely involve control of world leaders and their policies.*
*Pope Benedict XVI also said,* - *“Sunday is an “obligation* for all the faithful” which brings “authentic freedom enabling them to live each day”, that it is the Lord’s day, that it is “a day to be sanctified”, and those who do not keep it suffer “the loss of an authentic sense of Christian freedom” and the loss of being “the children of God”, that Sunday is the “primordial holy day” and “is meant to be kept holy”, “a day of rest from work”, which hopefully “will also be recognized by civil society” by law. - (Sacramentum Caritatis: Post-Synodal Apostolic Exhortation on the Eucharist as the Source and Summit of the Church’s Life and Mission, Given by Pope Benedict XVI in Rome, at Saint Peter’s, February 22, 2007, the Feast of the Chair of Peter.)
Thanking God for this video, it is the Holy Spirit that reveals, and provides access to the plain unmistakeble truth. May our Almighty God be glorified through his human instruments. Thanking God for the Gospel. While Jesus is lifted up, He will draw all men towards Him. Praying for the Holy Spirit to open the eyes of all spiritual blind, in every church, in every denomination, that the Holy Spirit may convert hearts and lead them to Jesus. May God prepare all hearts that will preach and those that will receive and give the Third Angeles Message. May God preserve as as His true worshipers, and that may Jesus seals us and may we fulfill our highest dream that is to share the everlasting gospel, oh that many can be save through the blood of Jesus.
Thanking you brothers, Children of the Living God for this amazing presentation. Praising God that you are not embarassed of the gospel.
Numbers 6:24-26
The Lord bless you and keep you;
25 the Lord make his face shine on you and be gracious to you;
26 the Lord turn his face toward you and give you peace.
Good job gentleman.
Question. Did tge Catholic defender showed what the Catholics actually believed since it sounded like he didn't agree with the S.D.A's views of the R.C.C and the paper trail historical views of the R.C.C beliefs.
Why are you worried about the Catholic church when you still haven't got the real Jesus yourself
Myles sure has a strong hate for Adventists. I would say the spirit of Ignatius of Loyola is strong in this person.
It's very possible he is making a living working for the Jezzies. He surely is selling his soul for their cause. His wrath is storing up for that great day. He will regret his folly.
@@jeanclaude7018 You are 100% correct. There is no doubt in my mind that he is part of that organization.
@@FAITHFreedomFirearms How about James Baber? He's the granddaddy of all these haters of SDA truth! He says he sits in his office 15 hours a day, trying to "defeat adventism," so where is his loot coming from? He doesn't look homeless or broke.
@@jeanclaude7018 The enemy is ramping up their attacks on God's people, and unfortunately, I believe they have just begun. Their attacks are too well-coordinated to be a coincidence.
@@FAITHFreedomFirearms Rome is very cunning, and has very strong secret organization in her jesuit army, under the devil. EGW SAYS:
" Marvellous in her shrewdness and cunning is the Roman Catholic church. She can read what is to be. She bides her time, seeing that protestants are paying homage to the false Sabbath .."
Blessed sabbath to all of God's scoopers.
What do you mean by scooper?
@@thatnicekid04 Those who are hollowed out for service for the second coming of Jesus, Those who are named by the name of the Almighty Yahweh,
@@AwordStephen Amen! 🙌
@@thatnicekid04God Almighty blessed the Sunday the Resurrection
@@tasiaflynn3549 what verse says that?
There are many catholic people who don’t know what great controversy says or that they are in Babylon , you cannot speak for the Catholics as a whole Dr O
Thank God they don't! Biggest Brainwashing book ever written!🙏🏼
The tattooed Oracle who espouses the papal doctrine.
*Currently, the Holy See maintains full diplomatic relations with one hundred eighty-three (183) countries out of the one hundred ninety-three (193) member countries of the UN.*
*In comparison, China has an ambassador in 169 countries, the United States in 168 countries and France in 161 countries.*
*“They [Catholics] must penetrate wherever possible in the administration of civil affairs… all Catholics should do all in their power to cause the constitution of states, and legislation to be modeled on the principles of the true Church.”* -Encyclical of Leo XIII.
*‘No political event or circumstance can be evaluated without the knowledge of the Vatican’s part in it. And no significant world political situation exists in which the Vatican does not play an important, explicit or implicit part.’* - Guy Emery Shipler
*Many questions have been raised about the role of the Catholic Church at the United Nations as a result of its high-profile and controversial role at international conferences.* - *Participating as a full-fledged state actor in these conferences, the Holy See often goes against the overwhelming consensus of member states and seeks provisions in international documents that would limit the health rights of all people, but especially women.*
*How did the Holy See, the government of the Roman Catholic church come to enjoy this privileged position - held by no other religion - that gives it a voice at international conferences on some of the most sensitive issues of our time?* - *Is there a difference between the Holy See, Vatican City and the Roman Catholic church?* - *In the context of the United Nations, is the Holy See a state or a religion?*
*The Holy See is the spiritual and temporal government of the Roman Catholic church. It consists of the pope, the Roman Curia - the various departments and institutes that assist the pope in running the church - and the College of Cardinals.* - *The Holy See is the government of the Vatican City.*
*Vatican City is the temporal residence of both the Holy See and the Roman Catholic church. It is the world's smallest "city-state" at 108.7 acres. It houses the infrastructure of the Roman Catholic church: the pope's palace, St Peter's Basilica, offices and administrations services and libraries and archives. Vatican City was created in 1929 under a treaty signed between Benito Mussolini and Pietro Cardinale Gasparri, secretary of state to Pope Pius XI. The Lateran Treaty was designed to compensate the pope for the 1870 annexation of the Papal States, which consisted of 17,218 square miles in central Italy, and to guarantee the "indisputable sovereignty" of the Holy See by granting it physical territory.*
*According to Archbishop Hyginus Eugene Cardinale, a former Vatican diplomat who wrote the authoritative work on the Holy See and international relations, the Holy See "exists and operates within the international community as the juridicial personification of the Church."*
The Holy See owes its participation in the UN to an accident of history - the membership of Vatican City to the Universal Postal Union and the International Telecommunications Union. The Vatican is a member of these unions because it owns postal and radio services. Soon after its formation, the UN invited these organisations and their members to attend UN sessions on an ad hoc basis, which the Vatican did.
Perfect
Yeah but what is Daniel 814 say that created you in the 1st place the second vision so-called vision was the Sabbath she never kept it before. So what created the scenario in the first place?
@@JamieElison
“Second so called vision”
Which one?
“She never kept the sabbath before”
Not sure how that is relevant. lol.
@@JamieElison Oh, hi Jamie, thanks for helping the algorithm with your pointless questions, weird that you didn't accuse us of breaking the 9th commandment this time, or used a strawman, are you okay buddy?
... Oh, no, wait, you actually DID use a strawman, huh? Impressive, not even once you cease to use that fallacy, oh boy.
@@MajorGariyou answer like a 10 year old child with no substance you can't support anything you say. You just got to say something but it doesn't mean anything
@@JamieElison
That’s funny, we can say the same thing about you.
I asked two questions in this thread, please address them.
*God warns people not to fall into idolatry and false worship and to avoid such practices because it leads to sin. Consider the following text:*
*‘Then the Lord said, “Because this people approaches Me with their words And honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far away from Me, And their reverence for Me consists of the commandment of men that is taught.’* Isaiah 29:13
The Oxford dictionary defines an *idol* as: *“An image or representation of a god used as an object of worship; in extended usage, a person or thing that is greatly admired, loved, or revered.”*
*What does the Bible say about images and idols?*
Exodus 20:4, 5* - *a]* - “Thou shalt not *MAKE* unto thee *ANY* graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in *HEAVEN* above, or that is in the *EARTH* beneath, or that is in the *WATER* under the earth. *b]* Thou shalt not *BOW DOWN* thyself to them. *c]* Nor *SERVE* them.”
If you *MAKE* any graven image you have broken this commandment, whether you worship it or not.
Do Catholics *MAKE* graven images? *Yes.*
Do Catholics *KNEEL* down to statues of Mary or Jesus? *Yes.*
Do Catholics *SERVE* Mary? *Yes,* as in "Legion of Mary."
*The liturgical feasts dedicated to the Mother of God and Marian prayer, such as the rosary, an* - *“epitome of the whole Gospel,” express this devotion to the Virgin Mary.”* Cf. Paul VI, MC 42; SC 103.
*You may call it whatever you like, when you bow yourself to a statue or erect a statue of Mary, and pray to her, it is WORSHIP. God hates this practice. God will not share his glory with anyone, because He alone is worthy to accept praise and honor and worship.*
*The fact is that Roman Catholics say they don’t worship Mary, and yet they do everything consistent with the essence of worship while denying that they actually do it.*
*“Let us turn in prayer to Mary,* Mother of the Church and Mother of our faith. Mother, help our faith! Open our ears to hear God’s word and to recognize his voice and call…”*
“This twofold movement of *prayer to Mary has found a privileged expression in the Ave Maria: Hail Mary* [or Rejoice, Mary]: the greeting of the angel Gabriel opens this prayer…” (CCC 2676)
Leviticus 26:1 *a]* "You shall *MAKE* you *NO IDOLS* nor *GRAVEN IMAGE.* -*b]* Neither rear you up a *STANDING IMAGE.* - *c]* Neither shall ye set up any *IMAGE OF STONE* in your land to bow down unto it."*
*Do Catholics rear up STANDING IMAGES?* - *Yes.*
*Do Catholics set up any IMAGE OF STONE?* - *Yes.*
Deuteronomy 4:16 *"Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and MAKE you a GRAVEN IMAGE, the similitude of ANY FIGURE, the likeness of MALE or FEMALE."*
*Do Catholics make graven images of MALE or FEMALE?* - *Yes.*
Mary is a female. Jesus and the apostles are males.
Deuteronomy 16:22 *"Neither shalt thou SET thee UP ANY IMAGE: which the Lord thy God HATES."*
*Do Catholics SET UP ANY IMAGES?* - *Yes.*
*Does God HATE IMAGES?* - *Yes.*
Thessalonians 1:9 *"How ye turned to God FROM IDOLS to serve the living and true God."*
*Did the early Christians turn FROM IDOLS?* - *Yes.*
Deuteronomy 27:15 *"CURSED be the man that MAKES ANY GRAVEN or MOLTEN IMAGE, an abomination unto the Lord, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place."*
*Does God put a curse on any person that makes any image?* - *Yes.*
*Why does God call an image an ABOMINATION?* - *Because He hates it.*
Isaiah 40:18,19 "To whom then will ye liken God? or what *LIKENESS* will ye *compare* unto him? The workman melteth a graven image"
*Note:* God has no visible form and we cannot liken him to any material object. The Catholic answer is that they say that they do not *worship* images.
*God's reply is not to MAKE IMAGES.*
*The early Christians had NO IMAGES.*
Early Christian writers such as Irenaeus, Clement, Cyprian, Athanasius, and Jerome, wrote strongly *AGAINST* images, statues, and any manner of prayer or veneration regarding them. The Council of Constantinople in 381 A.D. voted unanimously to remove all images from the churches.
*The Catholic church removes the second commandment against MAKING* graven images from the list of 10 Commandments in Exodus 20:1-17. This presents them with the problem of *only having 9 commandments.*
*They resolve this problem by dividing commandment number 10 into 9 and 10 as follows:*
*9* You shall not covet your neighbour’s *wife.*
*10* You shall not covet your neighbour’s *goods.*
Maybe it's been presented on this channel or in the comments already but I'm finishing a very interesting book called 50 Years in the Roman Church the Conversion of a Priest written in 1886 by the priest himself, Charles Chiniquy. There is an 800 page free version online. The ones for sale are abridged copies.
If it fits you must convict
Ok understood.
The source shown for Leo 13 claiming he is God returns a 404 error.
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It's amazing how many sdas call themselves doctors and don't know there's not three persons in the godhead
Is saddens me that SDA is only want to talk about Sunday but the fact is the market authority is not only Sunday worship with the Trinity also what stas don't want to talk about that thank the Lord I'm OTG
I assure you, that you guys are not understanding Catholicism. The first thing I'll bring up is the fact that it is 2000 years old and has gone over the entire earth. There are over a billion Catholics and each of them have an opinion and they can see things differently. For this entire time, Catholics have gone back and forth about the Sabbath. Some popes have said Sunday is very close to the Sabbath, same type of thing. Some popes have said absolutely no Sunday is NOT a Sabbath and one even said that if someone says Sunday is a Sabbath they are the antichrist.
You guys ONLY show the one side. Which is false information. The church has allowed popes, cardinals, bishops, priests and laymen to discuss and debate this idea without coming out and making a definitive ruling. SOME bishops (who have authority over certain areas have made Sunday rulings that look very much like Sunday is a Sabbath.) But it wasn't until the 20th century that universally Catholics had to attend worship on Sunday--there was a Sunday obligation. Granted, most bishops did require it before then, but that was the OFFICIAL time Sunday obligation was made a universal mandate.
After the Reformation there was a time when the Sabbath issue was a BIG debate among Reformers. Calvinists took the position that Sunday was the new Sabbath, other Christians argued against that. William Miller argued that Sunday WAS the Sabbath because Sunday was the first day Adam and Eve were alive and that was the 7th day for God. Therefore, he argued, the 1st day for humans IS the legitimate 7th day Sabbath of God.
This became such a big deal (in fact more theological book were written about the Sabbath than any other topic 17th century, post Reformation). This timeframe came to be called the era of the Sabbath Wars. This became the context of most of your quotes you read. (Notice they are mostly in English. Official Vatican documents are written in Latin and translated.So always check to make sure whatever you are referencing as authoritatively Catholic was originally in Latin.)
To continue, American anti-catholicism was so persistent during the 19th century that American priests argued with Protestant pastors and scholars that there was no reason to hate Catholics. You get The LORD's DAY from them. The point was that if you are going to hate Catholicism, realize that you get the ONLY day Protestants have corporate worship from Catholic tradition, not from the Bible. Catholic worship daily publicly, they have daily mass, therefore the one day a week worship is an unknown concept to Catholics.
The stress of the Industrial Revolution kept many Catholics from attending worship EVER. So in order to get American Catholics to fight for their right to go to church at least once a week, they put pressure on them to fight for a Sunday blue law. Blue laws were not in effect to persecute or downplay Adventists and Jews who worshipped on Saturday. No, Catholics had historically been able to go to an early mass daily with a bigger celebration on Sunday as the Lord's Day--the Day the Lord rose from the dead. Adventists may disagree with Catholic theology, but at least understand what happened that created the stress of Catholic reactions both in their defensive laws protecting at least one day of worship for them.
Another thing, when a Catholic claims THEY changed the day of worship, what they are actually saying is that the Lord told the Apostles (Act 1) after His resurrection during those 40 days before His ascension into heaven that all Christians are to commemorate the day of His resurrection. The Apostles passed Jesus commandments on. Catholics believe they go back to Christ Himself and were not formed as a Church later on. This is what Catholics believe so when they say "they" changed it, they DO NOT mean a bunch of popes or at a council they got together and said, "let anyone who doesn't keep Sunday as a Sabbath be an anathema." Not at all. Christians kept Sunday as a holy day since the Sunday AFTER Christ resurrected. From the beginning. Not sometime later. Again you may disagree with that belief, but understand that is HOW Catholics mean it.
www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P7O.HTM
This is from the OFFICIAL Vatican Website:
2178 This practice of the Christian assembly [Lord's Day] dates from the beginnings of the apostolic age.
Please read the entirety of the Catechism on this and you will find that it says,
2175 Sunday is expressly distinguished from the sabbath which it follows chronologically every week; for Christians its ceremonial observance replaces that of the sabbath. In Christ's Passover, Sunday fulfills the spiritual truth of the Jewish sabbath and announces man's eternal rest in God. For worship under the Law prepared for the mystery of Christ, and what was done there prefigured some aspects of Christ.
The footnote on this is : St. Ignatius of Antioch, Ad Magn. 9, 1: SCh 10, 88. Ignatius is a second century bishop who was martyred for the faith. He wrote, "Those who lived according to the old order of things have come to a new hope, no longer keeping the sabbath, but the Lord's Day, in which our life is blessed by him and by his death."
Catholics believe that Sunday is holy BECAUSE CHRIST made it holy, not the church. Well, in fact they really wouldn't agree with that because Catholics believe the Church IS the body of Christ on earth. So please try to understand the quotes within this context. It will not change your beliefs, but at least you will not represent the church as having decreed Sunday a Sabbath. There are no official documents that have a direct "thus saith the church." It is a developing tradition that Sunday is similar to the Jewish Sabbath but in the end, it is not a day that gives us rest, but Christ.
When you go to Rome, you will hear Catholics, priests and even the pope refer to the 7th day as the Sabbath. That is what Catholics understand the Sabbath to be. Sunday is different in the same way baptism is different from circumcision, but one fulfilled the other and replaced it. In Rome Sunday is the Lord's Day and Saturday is the Sabbath. No confusion at the Vatican at all.
Approximately 10 times as many Catholics attend worship on the 7th day as Adventists do in the U.S. There is no way Catholics are ever going to keep Adventists from worshipping on the Sabbath because THEY do. Always have, always will. Catholics have always had public worship daily. Just like Israel did at the Temple. God's people have always worshipped Him publicly at a communal service 24/7 across the world. This idea of a "day" of worship is non-existent to Christians pre-Reformation.
Exactly! Prob is you have to Want to Hear TRUTH. It's a CHOICE. Not everyone does.
Thanks for this synopsis!
The underlying issue is God said before sin entered the world to keep the 7th day as a special holy day. All the other days we are also meant to commune and bond with Him. But the 7th day is meant to be set apart as special. God never changes. He reiterated it in the 10 commandments. While our understanding of God changes and advances, what God has said remains firm. His law (10 commandments and not the ceremonial law done away with at the cross) is binding. The apostles did not establish Sunday as a holy Sabbath day, nor a feast day to commemorate the resurrection. Baptism is the commemoration of resurrection (we come up from the water a new creature, Christ living through us). We also commemorate His death by the communion service, which Christ said is the remembrance for His death.
When Cain offered beautiful fruit in worship to God, the onlooker looking in would have thought what a beautiful act of worship. But God did not accept Cain’s fruit. It doesn’t matter if our motives are to worship God out of the most zealous love a human heart can offer, if we do not do what He asks us to do, and we know better, He does not accept it.
He asked us to love Him by keeping His commandments, not doing what we think is ok. One day everyone will know and be faced with this choice.
It doesn’t matter if the Catholic Church said Sunday is or is not the Sabbath. It doesn’t matter if I treat various days as the Sabbath. If I am not honoring the 7th day Sabbath as set apart from the other 6 days, then I am offering Cain’s fruit.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. Matthew 5:19
You two are beautiful souls!! We can feel the love flowing from your hearts. But please, don’t teach contrary to the truth of God’s law. Time is running out
@@stargazerlily7016 Catholics uphold Christ's law, we would never ever preach against it. It's all about HOW you interpret scripture. It's about what God MEANS in scripture.
Everyone understands reality differently and so everyone reads scripture slightly differently. So while the Bible seems to say something CLEARLY to you, it seems to say something quite clearly differently to me.
I don't know what to do with that. I wish that God sent someone with His authorization to be able to referee these things and tell us just who is reading His Words correctly and who is reading it incorrectly.
@@arthurandteresabeem7142 God has given us all we need in Scripture, you do want someone coming and claiming to impart true Scripture, 2 Corinthians 11: 13-15 says "13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works".
Olatunji (Hazael) you should know. After all you wen to a Jesuit Catholic university. How hypocritical of you to criticize the Catholics now.
If it weren't for Miles... you guys wouldn't have any material!
Incorrect, there are multiple people and groups that contradict Scripture, and thus, the fundamental beliefs of the SDA Church.
@@MrGlacierpoint1 they only told you the truth.. the the critics. Are people actually telling you the truth!. But they use myles material more than they practically do anybody else...( And they'll never debate me right on the TH-cam channel itse( in the in this column)!!!! they won't do it.. they come up with every excuse under the sun because they know they can't defend anything they teach from the( Bible itself)! (Unless they take things out of context.) Which is not a defense! . Because they don't like to have their words written down! And they can't defend one thing that they believe!
@@MrGlacierpoint1well they won't debate me in the stream. So that tells you an awful lot right there
Ask them why they're hiding the comments
@@JamieElison look in the Playlist. There are over 250 videos that have nothing to do with Myles.
Also your comments are not deleted.
ADL keeps your comments because you help the channel to grow. The more you comment on a video, the more youtube promotes the channel. So ADL appreciates you for that.
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