Karate vs Aikido (Real Sparring)
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I tried to make my Aikido work against Karate black belt Sensei Seth.
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My name is Rokas. I'm a Lithuanian guy who trained Aikido for 14 years, 7 of them running a professional Aikido Dojo until eventually I realized that Aikido does not live up to what it promises.
Lead by this realization I decided to make a daring step to close my Aikido Dojo and move to Portland, Oregon for six months to start training MMA at the famous Straight Blast Gym Headquarters under head coach Matt Thornton.
After six months intensive training I had my first amateur MMA fight after which I moved back to Lithuania. During all of this time I am documenting my experience through my TH-cam channel called "Martial Arts Journey".
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Very interesting. Thank you.
Nice one, thanks!
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Man I really like your content! You are such an inspirational person!
I know I shouldn't ask you this (because sponsors are funding your work), but could you avoid sponsors related to Russia? At this point in time money they make is used for destruction and suffering.
Keep up the good work! Cheers!
Who plays those games tho ?
To be honest your goal of rewriting a whole martial art ist extremely impressive and intriguing. I think all the contestants of the championships recognize that is not an easy feat and respect your dedication.
He's doing for aikido what it's original grandmasters did, he's changing the game
He's not rewriting anything? He's demonstrating his lack of understanding of his art, and real fighting. Even after studying under supposed experts.
@@oldnatty61,
He knows that Aikido by itself is almost useless against a resisting opponent.
@@oldnatty61 Technically he's changing the context which is just as good as rewriting the art.
Aikido was first created for and practiced by pro clinchers and brawlers. And as he becomes more of an expert at clinching and brawling, lo and behold, Aikido begins to come alive...
As a former Aikidoka turned to MMA myself, I cannot express how much your work means to me. Aikido as taught in most traditional dojos is at best incomplete, but as I am going through my journey in combat sports, I am starting to see how and when it can be applied, and your videos and insights are a great help. I really wish that someday, someone (maybe you) will put it all together and give us what Aikido should thrive to be: a very effective martial art, yet grounded in a non violent (or at least "violence avoiding") approach of life and encounters.
I don't comment often on your channel, but I wanted to express all my grattitude and hope that you may thrive in your journey. Keep it up, you're doing great
If you wanna fight why would you go to aikido at the first place? There is no attack moves. There is no sparring. It is a passivist martial art. If you make it some combat sport, it would lose 90% of its practicers.
@@johncena12366 Aikido is weird though. I went for just under 3 years and got only two lessons where he explained how each of these moves could be done a little differently if someone was actually trying to kill you, i.e. the movements are much smaller and sharper and you're actually trying to break bones and jab at eyes, balls and throats. Technically that's not Aikido, but it was 100% the same movements adjusted slightly to be more severe, and adding back in strikes where you'd normally learn feints, and my teacher said it was the older form - the techniques the founder learned and developed while in the Russo-Japanese war and taught to soldiers.
I'd be willing to bet 99% of Aikido classes will never cover that stuff, because most Aikido is from later in the founder's life when he became a bit of a spiritualist hippy, especially after Japan lost WW2 and were forced into becoming pacifists - those styles got a lot more popular. It's always going to be more practical to just punch someone in the nose if that's an option, but sometimes if someone is only expecting you to punch and kick, they can leave themselves open to a lock or a throw.
But to answer your assertion: yes there are attack moves but good luck trying to get a teacher who really knows them and/or is willing to share. Also enough of them are 'dirty fighting' that you could not make a combat sport out of them. I would not reccommend it to someone who wants to know how to fight, but maybe someone who already knows how to fight might get value from a good teacher, especially if they're not interested in sport-fighting.
Isnt that called Aikijujutsu? My teacher ages ago trained in that but it was closed to the general public. He described it as Aikido but super brutal, lots of neck chops and eye gouges. @@tSp289
@@tSp289 I've had 2 different Aikido teachers, one of whom can trace his "lineage" through to Osensei's original students. Both of them taught, what one could call "options", which open up during the execution of an Aikido technique. They would both say some thing like, "when you have your opponent here in this position you can now do 'X'". That "X" was usually a punch, elbow, open hand strike, or kick to the knee. They would also highlight where one could apply more aggressive force with the aim of breaking or dislocating a bone. I can't say whether or not this would work given I've not had to use these techniques in that way.
What I do find odd is why more instructors don't highlight those options. It just makes sense to me to say, "this is what we practice in training and this is what we can do outside of training". However, the phrase, "you fight as you train" would apply as well, if you're not comfortable actually hitting someone while applying a technique you'll likely not do it.
In the end I think the idea that an Aikido self rediscovery and modernization is possible. It never occurred to me that Aikido works well from the clinch, but now I can't unsee it. Many techniques start with entering or the tankon pivot both of which place you at extremely close range similar to a clinch. The first students Osensei had were judoka and jiujitsu guys and aikido evolved from aikijiujitsu, therefore it would make a ton of sense to basically teach this this way as opposed to the gentle blending with punches and wrist grabs and so on which are normally taught.
@@jamesbeach7405Yes, well. I've had three teachers. The first one was the one I mentioned and was outstanding. The next two were what I'd call vegan judo. They managed to make a sort-of-practical fighting form into dance karate while also being insufferably smug and arrogant. I suspect that's most Aikido teachers.
I think you should listen to John Danaher explain how they refined the leglock system. Instead of trying to refine the actual attack, they first refined the entry and control. I think this is where you need to focus your energy most on adapting your aikido to make it function. Seth gave you a good tip on closing the distance, but I think the biggest problem right now is taking control over the arm/wrist.
This needs more likes. I agree that entry and control should be top priority for techniques. Can't wrist lock someone if you can't close distance, let alone hold them.
He did something similar to what the Gracie’s did with the judo nawaza.
seeing aikido develop firsthand in real time is a pretty life-changing thing, never give up on your passion!
nah a lot of people have already figured this out. They just don't have the big audience Rokas has to spread this information. Look at "Art of the Wristlock" by Roy Dean. From 10+ years ago and he has figured out all of what Rokas says. Rokas just delivers it in an entertaining manner to a wide audience.
Develop into what? Rokas can't throw a punch, he's a phony.
I've been watching your videos for approx. 6 years now, and I wanted to say that you're incredibly inspiring. thank you for your content rokas, and keep it up! 💪
Thank you
You've been watching for 6 years and you haven't noticed that he can't throw a punch? He just dances around like a fairy, he never learned to punch. Does this sound harsh? Yes, but he's the one claiming to trying to be a real martial artist when all he does is do sparring sessions for video likes. Where's the hours in a dojo learning to punch and kick? It doesn't exist, he's a phony.
I found your channel with USDChampionship, but man, this story really makes the show and your relationship towards the participants and Martial Arts in general much more alive and interesting. You have a crazy life and that is so inspiring, only now i understand what the name of your channel really means.
I may be completely wrong for what i’m terribly sorry, but i think that the fact that you are from a post-soviet eastern europe state makes your story to me even more relatable with all this all-out endaevours, working on something as crazy and then burning out. I may be wrong, but it appears to me that the more you go to the west, the more relaxed people are so they don’t rush so much. I am from Ukraine and have a kind of quest for Japan myself too. I went to a Japanese kenjutsu dōjō when i was 18, started studies in the Japanese Studies in University, burned out and as i am nearing 20 years of age i’m questioning myself, what to do next and your story is really inspiring!
That kotegaeshi to sankyo transition was spot on!
I honestly never thought that I would ever see Aikido actually be functional when used against another trained martial artist, but you've proved me and a lot of others wrong. It's not a fluke, it consistently works and that is so impressive.
wow your journey is so inspiring, i love it!
Thank you
As a person who practiced Aikido during my younger years and was really into it only to realize that it has so many flaws and most of the techniques are basically useless, I truly appreciate your effort and I see your vision. I wish you good health and strength on your journey!
Not the techniques. But the way they teach to use those techniques.
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Aikido by itself is almost useless against a resisting opponent.
@@lionsden4563 not because the techniques are bad, the way they teach to use those techniques are. The same I can say about my own style, "kungfu" there's a lot of people that claims it is like magic and all that bullsh*t. And there's a few that teach it for the real, basically looks like MMA, with strike grappling and wrestling. A lot of techniques I know and use cause I learned in a good school I've seen being taught as Bushido in other places. In general, the great majority of techniques are functional, but we lack people that knows how to teach it. In asian martial arts is mostly because of culture, they like to keep things in "closed doors"
@@B..B.,
Kung Fu literally means 'being the best at'.
The only Chinese Martial Arts that practically works are Sanda and Shuai Jiao.
@@lionsden4563 I'm guessing he used kungfu since it's the well known name. I trained wushu with my father for many years and it's functional because he has experience fighting and made it work. I'm training at a muay thai gym at the moment and it's working well enough. Most martial arts have practical techniques, the key is to stress test them in sparring so you can execute them against a resisting opponent, just like we see in the video.
I like the ending "Yet." Great line for a continued journey
Great sankyo from the clinch Rokas! That one can definitely work if you get two-on-one and grab all four fingers. Easier to tap them out with their back on the cage wall. You turned it into a nice takedown - twice - well done! Hard grabbing all four fingers with gloves on too. Would love to do another video with you on closing the distance as we’ve evolved some very simple drills based on GSP’s approach to “proactive vs. reactive” takedowns.
The only way to make any martial art work, including Aikido, is to pressure test it. The fact that you're doing that is the most important part of all of this. Keep up the great work on your fantastic journey.
You should be a fight commentator! Your breakdowns of sparring and talking about people is really insightful and always gets me pumped.
I’ll add that studying others’ footage can give new ideas to try to replicate, expand your own game.
im down to fight him, im 5 ft 7 145lbs ill handle it better than anyone can expect! respectful sparring, not a fight
Awesome to see the grappling portion of karate and the practicality of aikido to prove how functional they truly are, if trained properly. Nicely done, guys
He's finally seen the light!! Glad the journey brought you to this understanding. You are also a kind person and it shows in the way you spar/fight. Your Aikido does work, the more you use it in sparring and be aggressive with it the better. Impose yourself onto the opponent and get in their zone with haste (easier said then done, I do know that). Definitely great job on bridging the gap between striking and clinching. Lots to learn from that
We appreciate your dedication and effort. We will continue supporting you and your channel no matter what.
As long as you're comfortable with the idea that it may not look like aikido once it's modified for viability.
And I applaud you because many arm chair will default to "Why waste time when you can do what works."
This will always take more work. Good stuff
I will say, that last takedown looked a LOT like Aikido. Not to say it’s high percentage or anything, but honestly seeing something that looks like aikido working even one time against someone like Seth resisting it is more than I would have ever thought I’d see a few years ago.
Glad to see your video today. Glad to hear the other competitors were helping you refine your aikido style. Can’t wait to see more! How’s work on USDC season 2 going?
So far the organizing of USDC season 2 is going really smoothly!
My favorite part of this video is how excited Icy Mike got seeing an Aikido wristlock takedown work. Especially on Seth.
All the knowledge i managed to collect about Aikido is pointing towards watering down modern aikido into breathing exercise, more like dynamic yoga. It seems old Aikido was pretty promising defensive martial art with lot of strikes that were suppose to be setup for clinching (like in muaithai) and from there joint locks etc. When i was training Aikido (i managed to stay 2 years and i gave up after i was beaten in street fight pretty badly) it was so soft, i could really feel it's like gymnastics not martial art. I'm pretty sure, with faith and persistence You can make Aikido Great Again, through Your dedication and social platforms influence. Keep up great work, I look forward to see You succeed.
same with tai chi, bagua and xingyi as well.
I chime in here from time to time, but wanted to drop in and say that I really like this new format of video.
I commented about your video format a year or so ago that I was not a fan. This though, it very good. Love the length of these as well.
Keep up the great work.
Love this video and the other sparring videos you made during this series. You ironically have both killed my respect for Aikido AND renewed my respect for that same art over your series of videos. REALLY interesting to see your journey with functional Aikido develop. Such a testament to the necessity of pressure testing and how it forces you to adapt to reality.
That's exciting you are starting to see Aikido can work. It's really for self defense but the principles can work in fighting too. My original teacher was Chiba Sensei, he had black belts in Karate and Judo before finding Aikido. As you know many of the Japanese instructors came from other martial arts.
What I totally admire every time I see all of you sparring, is the ability to spar in just the right intensity that it is tough but safe. No running away, good offensive distancing, punches and kicks land but are not pushed through. It takes a lot of practise and control to spar this way!
Amazing work Rokas, keep it up, can't wait to see where this leads 🔥🔥
HAHAHA "I can't let you get close to me". Nice Chael Sonnen quote by Sensei Seth.
when this Rokas develops his style, he would probably be one of the most unorthodox martial artist, if he really sets his goal! super admirable
I agree. Your approach is right. First clinch and then use joint locks. 👍
I'm very happy you're finding ways to reintegrate your Aikido training into real combat. It takes a lot of courage to move away from systems you've invested a lot of time into, but as we can see, the rewards of seeking mastery pay off handsomely. Well done!
My kids and I love your content and this video was really good! We can't wait to see you and Jeff Chan in Nürnberg.
It's kinda crazy that I'm friends with the greatest Aikido fighter on the planet.
🤣🤣🤣
It would be even crazier if Ramsey has friends that do Krav Maga
I served for almost 30 years in law enforcement. I worked SWAT/GANGS, Drug Interdiction, Public Order Unit, and the Internet Crimes Against Children Taskforce. I had more than my share of scary events. Although I was told by some officers and fighters Aikido never works in a real fight, I've used Aikido in numerous arrests and altercations with good results. Sankyo was one of my favorite techniques to take down my opponent. Although, sometimes a strike was needed for the application, it was effective nonetheless. The strike was set in stone with me at a Seminar with Mitsugi Saotome Sensei; when a larger student wasn't being affected by his technique, he struck him across the chest, and away the student flew. Any art can be improved or combined to make it more effective. THERE IS NO PERFECT ART! When I taught Kenpo, (which was always a street fighting art; if taught correctly) in the 90's, ground fighting became a part of my system after training with BJJ. It was an eye opening experience. As a blackbelt in Aikido, I moved towards this art because I wanted to train for me. To get away from the constant challenges from people who want to test your metal, politics, competitions just for money and not to train how to defend and protect. Aikido gives me timing, balance, and flow. Although I don't practice Kenpo like I used to anymore. because I use a core of effective techniques that work for me. At age 59 and after serving in the military, and serving my community, I am happy to be alive. I have nothing to prove anymore. I believe Ōsensei had the same journey you are on. The same journey that I am on and still continually striving to achieve. I love helping others get a different perspective. I really enjoy your perspective and appreciate the good work you do! Domo arigatou gozaimasu!
Your quest is an inspiration. I am wrestling with the same problem with traditional Jiu Jitsu. But it is a very interesting journey to see and search how to make it work rather than to give up al together.
hey man, I have a tip for you - and its from an unexpected source (taijitsu), but this technique is genuinely solid.
As a judoka that ventured into MMA in the early days and has participated in training from various sources I look for techniques that let me close and this one works wonders.
There are 5 fundamental 'strikes' in taijitsu - to represent the 5 traditional elements in shinto (earth, air, fire, water, void).
The void strike is not actually a strike at all, but rather a faint that obscures the opponents vision to allow for movement.
Id suggest looking for some documentation to see the exact form as these basic strikes are well documented, but here is a basic description.
first perform a jab with the leading arm to the face (OR a stepping jab with the back arm as it becomes the leading arm), but prefer speed/control over power. Then as your opponent moves, bobs head or blocks simply open your hand to its fullest extent with effort to cover their eyes/Line of sight, as you do so simultaneously move (in whatever direction you wish) - while trying to keep your hand between you and your opponents eyes. This is a 'surprise' technique, so don't expect it to work more than once in a fight - BUT you can use more than once provided the accompanying movement is different - you can dummy people with this too, eg - first time - movement is to left, second time movement is to left, third time - movement is taking advantage that your opponent will be guarding to left.
This technique can also lead into a head control throw or balance manipulation - something im sure your familiar with from Aikido.
Hope this helps, big respect from an old now retired fighter. Good luck on your journey and thankyou for sharing it.
Great job, keep it up. One day you may be known as the man who revolutionized Aikido. Can't wait to see what you do next
I seriously wonder which teachers I went to decades ago. I learned and saw classic Aikido, but these flowing large moves were always explicitly taught as "this is for training where nobody gets injured, we are not on the street here". Occasionally the teachers showed how tight and small the same technique could look like, barely recognizable and much more like when you researched wrestling. Clearly they peeked into the path you are taking with large steps.
You found good teachers that admit that traditional stuff is just for practice not street
This just cements what I've believed all along. That "Aikido" is not a martial art in itself but really just an advanced lesson once you've learned the basics of wrestling and striking.
Sankyo is a technique I have used in real life. A guy grabbed me from behind to try and chokehold me, I was quick to grab his arm away and got in a sankyo to get out and control him.
Your development of Rokas Aikido is very entertaining and interesting
Respect. This is 15 years of hard work.
Your journey proves the point you have been making regarding the importance of effective training and critical assessment. Great video.
Another voice to say I greatly appreciate your channel and you sharing your knowledge and experience. It's easy to handwave traditional arts as BS if you're into MMA, but your own journey has been humble, honest, intelligently approached and it's also interesting to see how aspects of traditional arts can give one a unique edge in MMA.
I always wondered how Aikido, which has many Jiu Jitsu techniques, could be so ineffective while JJ seems to work in most cases (especially the BJJ ones).
Maybe it's a case where philosophy stood in the way and took the teeth out of the moves. I did japanese JJ for a couple of years with sparring and I can say, most of the stuff worked for me as well (even in 2 street fights) and seeing your videos it seems the moves kinda work if you really push through.
What I can tell for sure is, that the wrist locks work only before a real fight in 9 out of 10 cases (like someone's threatening and pushing you) - but the arm locks and arm take-downs can work for sure if you use more brute force.
Hope you get the hang of it and make Aikido useful for self defense again :)
I also noticed a lot of crossover between aikido and JJ. Tbh, every martial art sort of crosses over, and simply tries to excel in some specific way. You are exactly right about the difference between wrist and arm locks. Irl you aren't afraid to break someone's bones so the technique actually works when you put full force behind it. I will add that wristlocks are viable mid-fight if you have good reflexes, but if you're slower, just go for the whole arm (way safer to try to control the arm anyway, but sometimes the wrist is closer to grab). Important to note that your body movement needs to be impeccable when trying to do joint locks, bc the person isn't gonna just let you do it, you have to manipulate them (which you can't do to someone if you don't have great personal body control). Every successful joint lock I've done was predicated by a faint of some sort to force a flinch and I just take the half second of knowing where their arm/hand will go to intercept lol
I can't wait for the series finale when you go back to your old Aikido dojo and single-handedly out-aikido all of the black belts and masters they have.
(That's how these movies always go, right?)
Great video, Seth is good value, was good to see you work with him
I really like your approach to make your martial art work. Keep it up Rokas!👍
This is the evolution we’ve been waiting for
Congrats Rokas!!! 🎉 😁 Your work not only help You develop, You help every Aikidoka in the world!
very cool video, great editing and story telling!
This is another excellent video; I really admire your dedication to learning and enjoy seeing how you're developing these techniques!
New Series Idea! Compare wildly different philosophies of certain styles regarding "fundamentals"
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How do different styles manage distance? (TKD will be very different than Jiu Jitsu, for instance)
How do different styles generate power? (muay thai, karate, sambo, wing chun/Kung Fu can differ greatly)
How do different styles treat mobility? (some styles like muay thai don't value it highly, but others like taido or TKD really thrive on it)
How do different styles generate speed? (All muscle? Whip from the hip? etc.)
How do different styles use/execute fundamental punches?
How do different styles use/execute fundamental kicks?
How do different styles combo?
Rokas brother as someone who is early on in their martial arts journey (1 year to be exact) and coming up in a community that is very open minded and encouraging about cross training it is so exciting to see you prove that if you can keep yourself humble and test your techniques objectively and make tweaks, all martial arts have some value in there.
Plus long ago as a kid I thought aikido was the coolest thing and to see that the type of work you are doing is very complimentary to my personal style of grappling gives me hope that I can add a little of that to my own game.
Keep on killing it bro 💪💪
I am not surprised you had trouble vs Karate because one of their specialities I find is distance management when striking. Zoner vs Grappler.
Keep at it bro. You might be the only one that can make aikido werk
I DID NOT know that Seth was Undisputed and Undefeated!
Thanks for the video. I think it's about time you get back to your "hakama" and teach aikido again. This time you know how to make aikido " effective" to those who want to use it to fight.I will keep on learning it for fun and just as exercise. If I ever need to defend myself I can combine it with my judo and karate.
I think you need to diversify your attacks more. If your opponent knows what you're trying to do they'll be able to counter effectively, but if you switch up your tactics continuously you'll make it hard for them to respond and frustrate them.
Aikido seems to focus on opponents over committing so if you can frustrate them with diverse attacks and good in and out movement, I think you'll find more success with your techniques.
"Aikido seems to focus on opponents over committing"
exactly! so fumbling in a clinch to force pass a lock that exist in aikido is not really "making aikido work" ^^
I'd rather see perfect irmi with a strike than a kote gaeshi without aiki in it…
Mike with the "I should write a book on beimg humble" 😂
I am glad to see you getting more practical every day for years. An experienced instructor told some of us in a similar conversation regarding effectiveness, practicality, strength, power,........ of aikido something that resonates still. He said he is often told by people from other arts who trained with aikido people that aikido sucks. His reply has always been, maybe your aikido sucks. He leans in as he says it. Granted, he is higher ranked in shotokan than aikido. He is shihan in both. Identical attitude in all students I have trained with in aikido - all students with proficiency in other martial arts.
So the question from the first time I watched you way back in Lithuania: have you never met another student or teacher in all of you martial art training who's aikido did not suck? Have you never trained in aikido with a cop? or military? or blackbelts from other arts? or boxers? or grapplers?
Glad you're figuring it out.
Congratulations Rokas on your progress.
Great video
All things considered exposure to various martial arts is bound to turn you into a great martial artist because you build your understanding of the art of fighting.
Chan and Seth are such peaches, to let you work them like that, to allow you to evolve your Aikido into functional techniques! xD
Wonderful people !!!
Icy Mike really comes thru when he is needed.
Roy Dean said it himself that the only place he has ever been able to pull off Kote Gaeshi is from the clinch. You can also do it from a Russian Tie or a lapel grab.
Daaaamn you pulled it of this time.. applaudes
Rokas! Be the first one of the group to go to the UK and train with Lee Morrison of Urban Combatives! You'll love it man!
Was that a Chael Sonnen reference?? “I can’t let you get close”
Good man!!!
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I understood in my short time doing Aikido that, while most martial arts are meant for self defense not to start a conflict, Aikido was more like a counter oriented martial arts meant to react to motions. This shift though to more of an active entry with clenching and feints I think makes you less of a punching bag and more of an active player. It's scary and I don't think it'd be something to practice in like a recorded mma or boxing type setting because you could break wrists and shoulders with a lot of moves, but if you could make it work then by joy do it man I wanna see this become something usable.
Love how exited mike got
Watched the whole series and I gotta tell yah that it was exceptional 😉
Rokas, it would be interesting to take a look at styles like Shindo Jinen Ryu and Wado Ryu karate. Jujitsu was part of the training that the founders of those styles had when creating their style of karate.
Kyokushin and then Kudo had judo blackbelts as part of their creators.
So in theory clinch work has to be part of these styles. It would be interesting to find out.
Sankyo is a very effective technique. As a retired police officer, I used it a number of times to help take down offenders. Good on you. Keep working!
As a judo guy who's done a bit of muay thai I've learned a flying knee is a great way to enter the clinch. If their hands are up you can pull down on their forearms and use elbows and knees to help you establish a secure clinch and a good takedown position.
You should check Kuroda sensei’s bujutsu and try to integrate it to you style. Im sure if you add these inner movements and tanden working, and the musoku stuff, you will be able to throw anyone. Maybe you should try to reach him and learn from him. Kuroda sensei is really in another dimension :)
My wrestling coach in highschool was also a black belt in judo and aikido. He used say that aikido works best during the initial hand fight in most grappling arts. I think it would be interesting to see you try it against wrestlers/grapplers.
really like your conclusion. I had a similar path with my marital art ninjutsu. After 2 years of training mma and good fondation on clinch. I am now able to get some ninjutsu lock or throw to work during sparring and street fight by my experience. I think those technique are easier to make it work on a street fight tant a sparring but it need to have mma grounds to be able to manage the distance, the clinch, strike and defend himself to get in clinch, etc. before my mma training, I was not able to make ninjutsu work but now I am able. Still far from a master but I think I start to understand why master act like they act. They probably pass threw the same process and they know how to make the technique works. But it is still a way to learn them in dojo and they way that we learn them in the dojo is not the same way that it will be apply in sparring and street. But I understand now why it as to be teach by this way in dojo to get the effect that we want. Those technique learn by a mma training type will not get the result that you get or I get in my own training. I really think that both training are part of the same way to become a warrior...
Dude, that wristlock to elbowlock it's a great tool, it's like a hiplock to a double leg take down, I could go on, like a clinch to knees, or a classic one-two to upper set up, you got something special there.
I've always believed in the power of your aikido!
Honestly, that first kick you caught might be legit. You came into contact with the back of his knee. Even if it was thrown with full power, you could still eat the impact and follow through into the clinch/takedown.
Finally, the right conclusion. Still, what you are applying are gyaku waza in a clinch/wrestling format, where you actually go after the limb to try to apply the technique. You are chasing the technique without any "sticking" skill. There is no Aiki principle in your sparring. There was a moment of Aiki principle during one of your fights in the Championship. It requires you to blend in with the incoming force and there to apply the gyaku waza. Slowly slowly...
Side Kicks vs. Wrist Locks in a Not Working Contest.
Amazing. Basically that’s true of all Martial Arts, if you train in a vacuum with no pressure testing and ONLY use the movements from your art, you are stifiled. Now that your striking and wrestling and bjj are rising up, your Aikido can be your secret “5th Element” now the trick is to NOT force it. The trick should be spar-get in a rythm-get the opponent in your groove-THEN change the rythm, and surprise them with an Aikido tech. That’s the next step.
By the way. I tried to donate to the 2nd season or USDC but my card was declined because it looked like suspicious activity lol
amazing video. I want to go to Thailand now , damn..
btw , I don't want to force you into doing something you don't wanna do , but if one day you have the possibility I would love to see some judo related stuff..
maybe try applying aikido against a judoka would be fun and interesting to watch.. as in aikido you gotta close the distance to start an attack , and same thing with Judo , it would be really interesting..
as a judoka my self that would be really cool..
see you in the next video , keep up the great work.. AND , I can't wait to see Self Defense Championship season 2 , let's gooo
Your humility and passion is inspiring.
Excited to see some of the old aikido work. I don’t think functionally it’s wrong; a throw is a throw and a lock is a lock. But as you know better than anyone, the clinch and set up is how a fight actually works and aikido traditionally just assumes it works and your ‘opponent’ cooperates.
That's just beautiful! Functional Aikido against a non-complaiant sparring partner! I'm utterly impressed!
Did anyone else crack up when Icy Mike started shrieking like a chimp in the background?
I guess there is 2 ways to make aikido work in a sport fight:
- get in this distance and try to find some lock as you did
- forget about techniques / lock but master irimi/atemi with perfect timing (and do strikes / throws and occasionnaly if the entering is perfect do some lock)
It's interesting, one of the moves you tried is similar to a Sumo move we do, Tottari. The main difference is we really get our body behind it and even use our leg to block our opponents. It makes me think that perhaps the motion is fine, but the amount of leverage needed isn't there in the way you're applying it. At the end of the day it's just an arm bar throw, but even at 340lbs 6'3", I couldn't pull that move off trying to use arm strength alone. I've got to basically put my body weight on the opponents arm to get them to go.
I love that Icky Mike is such a woooh-girl hahah
I feel like you're going to end up creating your own Aikido style.
After 2 years of japanese ju-jutsu (the grandad of aikido) switching to karate cuz bad knees i will definitely keep my ju-jutsu techniques close in mind :)
Yeah man! Seth and Mike would have told you if it wasn't really true! Aikido is the real deal! All your years are not a waste! Great stuff!
Shihoenage is one of my favorite aikido/Aikijujutsu techniques to throw at unexpecting oponents (while rolling/wrestling), waki gatame (judo arm lock, I forget the aikido name) was right around the corner during that ikkyo attempt, at 5:20 if you had controlled the wrist and forced it to externally supanate and hugged it close to your chest while turning away and squatting down you could have submitted him I believe. Another personal favorite of mine is when someone has a long guard I quickly grab the front hand’s wrist with my mirror hand and then shake the hand with my other hand and twist it into sankyo in a violent (but controlled) jerking motion while stepping to their side to break their posture
That was awesome 😄.
Now we have to wait for the rematch with Jesse ☺️🥊.