A Particular Sin Does Not Disqualify You from God's Love
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Its a real tragedy that we lost Dr. Heiser
Yes it is. But at least he's in Heaven with our Lord and Savior not having to suffer any more, and we'll be there one day too. 🙏
He wouldn’t trade anything to be where he’s at now.
@@TheKingsCourt7 and neither would I
I tell u. Really sad
Thanks to youtube and sharing videos, alot of people just found him!!!!!
Totally agree with Dr. Heiser here. I would also point out though, that if you are even defining your relationship to sin as “a struggle” at all, paradoxically, that ought to give you some level of comfort. A person whose heart is far away from God does not look at their sin as “sin”. It isn’t a battle at all. Those people are content with their life of sin, and can even consider it good.
Re: Great comment; yet by design we are born with conscience and are without excuse.
Here's just one scripture that attest how mankind is created in the image of God
and we feel remorse and guilt bc we have a God given conscience.
John 8:9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
Agreed. It’s when you say, “I accept”. That’s a problem
Amen, There's a huge difference in "Struggling" with sin, and "Embracing" sin.. The "Wicked Hearted" Unsaved dead in sin, slaves to sin embrace thier sin..While The Born again New Hearted, New spirited Slaves of righteousness =Believers are ashamed Of thier sins...Our hearts are not in it..
@@gracethroughfaith3377
U R Wise
That was a great comment as many live under condemnation believing that we have to EARN Gods love and acceptance we must perform. As Heiser says “ It is NOT performance based if it were we would be putting God in OUR debt.” Meaning He would owe us something. Of course we do our best to be obedient and not grieve God although we will never be sinless. Blessings to u
In our best day we can't merit salvation ❤
Its ineffable, how badly I miss this wonderful man
Mike operated in total love all the time, everything he did
Death is so weird for me. When i think of Mike i know he passed,but it doesn't feel like it. Idk where he is now,i don't believe the idea of believers going to heaven,i think the resurrection is the afterlife period. But the way ppl live with you through memory is strange but nice.
@@LoganPlessinger absent from the body, present with the Lord, but you're right, the redemption of the body is another stage of the afterlife.
@@78LedHead I believe that Paul meant "Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord." as a preference, first century Jews would never of understood any part of us would go to heaven and be with the Lord, I don't believe this passage or any other passage supports saints going to heaven, heaven will come again to earth.
@@andykanonik8935 Yeah thats what i think scripture says. I always had problems with the things i listed above. A lot of those views just seem illogical and goofy.
@@andykanonik8935 Paul very clearly details being caught up to the 3rd heaven. The eyes have not seen, the ears have not heard. We go somewhere friend. Ever known someone who went through a near death experience like Paul?
In the words of Dr. Frank Turek, "Homosexuality doesn't send you to hell anymore than heterosexuality sends you to heaven." . I agree with Dr. Heiser; we're all depraved, and hence in need of God's grace.
Great comment! TY btw
What came 1st the chicken or the egg?
Without Mercy there would be no grace.
Mercy holds back; Grace supplies; Faith delivers
God is rich in mercy; Titus 3:5-7
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his ((mercy)) he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; That being ((justified by)) his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
GBY & those u love!
Except what did Paul say in 1 Corinthians 6? "[All these] shall not inherit the kingdom of God..."
@@reesedds Common sense prevails; this was revealed to you by the Holy Spirit.
Indeed all have sinned and miss the glory of God. But the Bible says there is sin that does not lead to death...hum
Likewise an alcoholic is always an alcoholic; but a sober alcoholic is stone cold sober and no longer drunk.
The sober alcoholic remains sober as long as they abstain from alcohol.
Temptation remains but sobriety reigns until that next drink.
All sin is common to man. Nothing is new under the sun. But the Saints of God are to live by the power of grace.
Dead men don't sin; those in Christ died with Christ. But the flesh must be addressed & reckoned "daily"
The Hebrew meaning of repent is to renew your mind "daily"
Hey isn't that what Paul the Apostle tells us?
Here's the scripture that irritates many great Baptist folk because it mentions being holy.
Paul tells us And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. "How great is that"
The evil one knows if you renew your mind; God will change your heart.
And that's the last thing Satan wants to happen. Jesus says repent and believe or ye will perish.
Meaning daily take out the trash there are too many potholes along life's narrow way; no different than your cars front end your mind requires realignment. God will not supersede your free will.
The Bible is bread of life living waters;
God supplies but only you can apply. Renew your thinking fresh from the word "daily"
That's not work for salvation but work because of salvation Jesus says "repent" and believe.
Without Mercy there would be no grace.
Mercy holds back; Grace supplies; Faith delivers
God is rich in mercy; Titus 3:5-7 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his ((mercy)) he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; That being ((justified by)) his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
O' What a Savior!
@@reesedds1946themovie proves this passage is mistranslated. The word homosexual should not be in the bible. Anti-gay and anti-choice are ANTI-CHRIST lies. Matthew 7? Romans 2?
@1new-man the problem is that the bible is mistranslated. 1946themovie proves the Bible is not anti-gay. Jesus said in Matt 19:11-12 there are THREE types of "Eunuch". Not just castrated slaves. The context is marriage to women. What kind of man is born in such a way he doesn't want to marry a woman? Anti-gay and anti-choice are ANTI-CHRIST lies. Matthew 7, Romans 2? The church is lost today to bigotry on the right and idolatry on the left. 2Thess2:11 is here. The church is fallen. Trump is lawless. Jesus is coming soon but most will be left behind because of bigotry and idolatry. Rev 13:11-16 is America. Two horns "like a lamb"? Who's the Lamb? Jesus! We think we're a Christian nation, we're NOT. Compare Exodus 13:16, Rev 13:16 & Matt 5:29. The Mark of the Beast is SIN. The only way to wash it off is faith in the blood of Jesus. We MUST follow His law. 1John3:23 sums up Christianity. Sadly, most Christians live in 1John4:20. I pray God helps you see. ❤
God's Love never changes, that should never be up for debate. BUT!! if We Love Him!! "Our Choices" should be aligned with The Word. There should be abstaining from sexual immorality, idolatry/un"faithful"ness; Trusting in anything, or anyone else other than God. When you truly believe something you will die for it, or else it's a mere preference, or an opinion. He wants a faithful bride, not one being unfaithful whoring with the world. If we love the world and its ways then the Love of the Father is not in us.
Yes, We are justified, but there is always evidence of that heart change. If there is no fruit, no actions/evidence, then that persons faith is dead, and they are playing a dangerous game of delusional thinking.
Great comment; Well versed
Jesus says if ye love me keep my commandments.
By the power of grace; He has equipped us to have a new beginning with each new day!
But perfection on earth in this mortal body... never in a million years.
And yet when the Father looks down at his children here on earth He sees Jesus!
Incorrect by your logic that’s all of us and we are all playing a dangerous game regarding sin actions mean nothing regarding salvation
You cannot earn salvation. If that were the case you r putting God in your debt by YOUR works. There is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. Of course we strive for holiness but as scripture says there is not one good no not one. Blessings
Thank you for continuing to put out Dr. Heiser's work. I like his book What does God want. I think it should be used as a foundation for new believers and to reorient oneself to what is important.
This reminded me of how a Lutheran pastor/priest explained Roman Catholic teaching before Luther: getting the apartment is free, but then you have to pay rent. The contrast being that not only can't God be bought, He doesn't even want you to try -- moving in was free, and there is no rent. Jesus bought the apartment and invited you to move in, so just enjoy it and concentrate on what shows you appreciate it (show your loyalty, as Dr. Heiser might say).
Michael Heiser even though he is now with the Lord…has left us with a treasure trove of his Biblical scholarship. God’s blessings to the Heiser family.
Thank you Micheal Heiser again for making the Gospel so clear !
I realised this last week and today I watch this video. "Elite Sin is brilliant"
They should be played on loud speakers everywhere
We must not confuse repentance with exchanging sin 4 Gods gift.
Notably the prodigals son didn't return to his Father with a bottle of booze in one hand and a prostitute on his other arm.
We miss you much Michael Heiser.
Once a person is saved, and indwelt by the Holy Spirit, they are called to holy living: For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, while we wait for the blessed hope-the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good. Titus 2: 11-14.
If John tells us the unbeliever is without excuse;
because creation is the signature of God right under their nose that the rocks cry out and declare His glory...
How much more accountable are those who have been renewed regenerated from death
now having the commandments written upon the table of our heart? Indeed Holy means to live set apart;
and be Salt and light in a dark distasteful world.
@@1new-manyeah, but your salvation doesn’t depend on how holy you are.
@@KnightFel Don't be distracted by non essentials.
Salvation is where the journey begins not where it ends.
I'm an old guy that learned that hard way; didn't have to but I did.
I abused grace at every turn and venue through out the race.
The Bible has much to say of those who abuse grace.
I'm the stiff necked mentioned in the Bible who by all rights could have had his life required of him early on.
But God is rich in mercy. Without mercy there would be No grace.
This I know if you want to make Joe Christian squirm speak to Holiness' sanctification and works "unto" salvation
(not 4 salvation) And the camp goes wild.
Brother indeed if u r saved it wasn't by the skin of your teeth; but by the blood of the Lamb.
Salvation can't earn it don't deserve it; none the less some things are worth losing a little sleep over.
Gods desire is for the believer to live the victory; sow with him not against him; bringing in the sheaves,
The law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set us free from the law of sin and death.
The Lord expects a return on his investment. Consider Jesus & the parable of the talents.
Carry forward beloved Paul 1 Cor 15:1-4 was ((not)) a one scripture Apostle.
Ro 14:12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
2 Co 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be ((good or bad))
Brother sin was judged at the cross but your motive hangs in the balance between salvation and reward,
Not everyone will share the same address in the kingdom of heaven; nor should they.
You've got a Bible to prove it; at judgment the books will be open and your life will back it up.
Therefore live a life becoming so great a gift; by the power of grace through faith
in everything you do; an image bearer of the "One" who gave his life 4-you!
If it's any consolation the "least" in Gods Kingdom will still be in the Kingdom.
But this side of heaven is the only chance you will ever have to give Jesus you're best.
With every breath you take; each trial and temptation is but a test. Why settle for less?
What a golden opportunity; it's up to you.
Don't miss it 4 the world!
@@KnightFel It doesn't depend upon how holy you are, but it does depend upon your obedience to his word and to be sanctified through his word. You can't continue to live in sin, as Paul warned believers in I Cor 6:9-11, and Gal 5:16-26, to be not deceived about this, those who continue to live as unbelievers and refuse to repent of their sins, but continue to deliberately, willfully sin, will not inherit the kingdom of God.
The Pharisees had unclean cups just as we all do. They will never see salvation because they had no believing loyalty, even though they saw Jesus and continued to deny HIM. No one but God is 'good' aka riteous. It's always been believing loyalty/Faith We are saved. Self control is in the journey called life. This is fruits of the spirit.
I used to be a lesbian. It was the strangest thing bc i always liked boys growing up, but as i got older and indulged sin more and more, i went from alcohol to drugs to sexual promiscuity, and then became a lesbian. I was only turned on by women for years.
When my life got to a point of extreme darkness and depression, i heard the voice of God and in an instant my life changed.
It was the strangest thing - i lost ALL attraction to women. In fact, the thought of sex with a woman repulses me now.
That is how i personally know homosexuality is a sinful urge you can be delivered from just like drug addiction.
So you can bend the knee and believe in Jesus, then still murder, rape, steal, cheat, lie, be a pedo. You are not saved if you do not repent and turn away from sin.
Michael was a false teacher. I doubt he will be in heaven because of his false doctrines which turn God's grace into a license to sin.
This doctor is a false teacher
I will miss Micheal Heiser and Tim Keller immensely. They are now in the presence of One whom they served so faithfully for so long. Salome brothers. I will meet you both one day.
This is the very first time I DO NOT AGREE with Michael Heiser.
Same here, he never chose to post his thoughts on homosexuality when he was alive and I think he was wise not to considering there are lots of people who contest this view with good backing. His team in possession of his videos now obviously don't share that wisdom.
Would it be fair to summarize what was said as, “Salvation is through Christ alone and all that matters is your believing loyalty to God and your behavior only affects the quality of your saved life and not salvation itself?”
You can be saved through your faith in Jesus Christ but not used by God because of your love to sin?
My question would be, How can one believe in Christ and live an ungodly life?
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Heiser talks about struggle with sin but the original question is allowing that as an assumption. The question could very well be “I want to love God and stay lesbian, I’m upset that his word says homosexuality is abomination. Can I pledge allegiance to God and continue with my homosexual lifestyle”
I LOVED AND RESPECTED YOU SO MUCH DR HEISER…TELL JESUS I SAID “Hi and I will see em soon”
Jesus is never too busy to answer your call
Dr. Heiser, I sure miss you and your wisdom. ☦😢
What we have today are 'Christians' who want to re-define what sin is so that they can keep doing it - or else we carry an attitude of "how much can i get away with and still make it to heaven". The evil powers have corrupted everything. We each have a proclivity to sin in one way or another. Our job is to tune out the words of the world and tune in to what the Holy Spirit is saying to us. If we are honest, God can free us from any carnal bondage.
I think he is a jewel 💎 in Gods crown !
What about repentance?
The issue is not _Does God love us?_
but rather, it is _do _*_we_*_ love God?_
_“If you love me, you will keep my commandments."_
*JOHN 14:15*
This doctor is a false teacher
Actually, this is a law statement. The truth is we were born haters of God.
"In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins." I Jn 4:10
Ask yourself: Am I keeping the commandments? Trust me, you are not fully; nor am I or anyone else. If righteousness comes from the Law, then Christ died needlessly.
@xnihilo1044
Nevertheless, one does not become antinomian. Before being born again, I had no problem with sin. However, after being born again, I developed a hatred against sin, and as such I live in a state of daily repentance of sin...no longer embracing sin. Why is this? Because John 14:15 tells us that if we love Jesus, we will keep his commandments.
"Then they said to him, “What must we do to be doing the works of God?” Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”
JOHN 6:28-29
@@mbgrafix Agreed!
"I live in a state of daily repentance of sin" is a most worthy statement (very Lutheran of you 😁). Romans 6-8 personified.
@@xnihilo1044 In this dispensation of grace each new day is a do over...
How great is that!
I would like to point out. If on one hand, you are willingly practicing sin, and you have no issue with it at all, but on the other hand claim to be saved; the latter is more than likely a lie. You might not even realize you are self deceived, but you should.
Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand. Repentance is a key factor.
Yes. The Holy Spirit makes us HOLY!
@@2Snakes In Gods eye we are Holy because we are sealed against that day;
but we must yield to him in obedience each day to live our faith.
I think one of people’s biggest fears is that they are viewed as wicked by God. If this is your fear let me tell you that you would not have that fear of you were viewed as wicked. Wickedness has no ability to see it could be wrong. If you are actively doing things against God willingly stop and accept for a moment that wicked people were saved then are saved now and will be saved forever. Choose to live out the perfect will God has for your life. God does not want you to sin but he knows when you will fall. Trust that he will save you from it and has given us the answer for all of our problems. Salvation is here will you accept it?
❤ I don't see him as lost or a tragedy that he's no longer in our terrestrial realm. I watch him everyday and someday I will meet him in that Unseen Realm!
He is correct that only Jesus can give us eternal life through his blood.
However
When you turn to Christ you should also have a change of heart. You are supposed to fight against sin and not embrace it.
Fighting against sin means that you are following the road to Christ, you might stumble & fall down on the way but you allways come back up and keep following it.
Embracing sin means that you stop following the road to Christ and you catch a glimpse of a forest. You abandon your original goal becuase you like the sound of the birds coming from the forest and you start walking towards it. Deeper and deeper you go and after a while you start remembering that you were following the road to Christ but there is one problem, you have no idea where you ended up and how you get back to the road. That is how sin works.
Following Christ means that you hate sin becuase you know that your Lord hates it and it leads you away from the Lord.
So this I say, and affirm together with the Lord, that you walk no longer just as the Gentiles also walk, in the futility of their mind, being darkened in their understanding, excluded from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the hardness of their heart; and they, having become callous, have given themselves over to sensuality for the practice of every kind of impurity with greediness.
But you did not learn Christ in this way, if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught in Him, just as truth is in Jesus, that, in reference to your former manner of life, you lay aside the old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit, and that you be renewed in the spirit of your mind, and put on the new self, which in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of the truth.
Therefore, laying aside falsehood, speak truth each one of you with his neighbor, for we are members of one another.
Be angry, and yet do not sin; do not let the sun go down on your anger, and do not give the devil an opportunity.
He who steals must steal no longer; but rather he must labor, performing with his own hands what is good, so that he will have something to share with one who has need.
Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear.
Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
- Ephesians 4:17-30
It is kind of puzzling that a man who knows the Bible who give such an inaccurate statement. The Bible says that while we were sinners, Christ died for us. But it also said, that our body died as he died so that we are no more slaves of this body, of this flesh. We are now new creatures that are slave of righteousness. If you continue sinning, then we are under God's wrath.
Only if you continue practicing sin. Please reread 1 John and ask GOD for understanding.
The unforgivable Sin, rejecting The Promised Messiah ✝️ 🕊️
So
You’re not born again from above
Unable to go to be with Almighty God in His Heavenly Home ~ Eternal Spiritual Realm
People that get mad at God, are self-centered. To think that, is to admit your world is all about you. We all struggle- no one is perfect, so ask for forgiveness, don’t get mad.
Amen!
Amen! Thank you Lord.
Maybe I am miss-understanding his message, pls anyone let me know your thoughts and correct me where i am wrong or misunderstanding.
Yes God loves us all whether we are saved, or not and always will love us. But once we are saved are we not supposed to have faith with works, God does not want to use us, it is expected of us to let God use us to do his will! James 2 -17 . Simple believing in Jesus and that he died for our sins isnt enough.
Yes, we are all sinners, but are we not supposed to try be like christ ? Yes we sin, but we ask for forgiveness with true remorse, how does one continue to commit the same sin day after day and ask for forgiveness but put zero effort into not committing that same sin again? Yes, we will always sin, but some, effort has to be put towards not committing the same sins over and over day after day. Jesus will always love us, but for us to follow the most important AND GREATEST commandment
Matthew 22:37-40 NIV
[37] ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ [38] This is the first and greatest commandment.
We need faith with deeds and to be doing our absolute best to live our lifes the way Jesus expects us to!
The way I understand it is that works are faith and are done through us with the holy spirit. These "works" aren't ours, but they are Gods. So we shouldn't be so concerned about works. James works are a sign that a fellow believer is actually faithful, if you see a supposed Christian cuss and lie constantly you could draw some conclusions about how faithful they are. However sometimes faith can save absent of works with examples like the thief on the cross or the women at the well.
Faith= salvation + works.
I’m so happy I found this video. So many people are chased away from Jesus based on the types of sins or desires they have. Ive often wondered where Mike was on this. It makes me sad when I see people hate Christians or Jesus because they feel judged or if they have had negative experiences. Thank you Lord for sending your son. I will do everything in my power to make those exiled know you love them and want them in your kingdom. They are redeemable by the precious blood of Christ like everyone else guilty of other sins. Only through Christ are we worthy of eternal life with you. God Bless you Brother Mike I believe you are in his Divine Council now.
Struggled with a sin that was being caused by a vitamin. Now looking back. Was years before 8t was recognized.
I know he can't judge, but he's not being clear. "Go, and sin no more"
Jesus still loves you. However, do we love Him? Love and faith is obedience. He said follow Me.
And one who is truly saved *IS* going to try - but being still trapped in the flesh, is ALSO going to fail...
We are forgiven our sins: past, present AND FUTURE!🙏
Jesus says if ye love me "keep" my commandments.
but if Jesus expected perfection from our abilities; his sacrifice wasn't necessary
@@openeyes-411 better believe it
now go and sin no more....btw and I would imagine
she never committed adultery again in her life..
better believe it
now go and sin no more....btw and I would imagine
she never committed adultery again in her life..
@@openeyes-411
The person who asked Dr Heiser, was looking for permission. Listen to him read it again.
Gods don’t exist, neither does sin
Sin is offending imaginary Gods.
Immoral behavior does exist.
If you identify in your sin and want to claim that sin is ok you are deceived. You have to turn from your sin and repent not celebrate your sin as an identity.
Homosexuality is a natural orientation. Sorry that the Bible got sexuality wrong
That's really sad that you love sin more than God. There is still time to repent if you're breathing.
True that God loves all souls, but because of our free will, He is not responsible for our actions therefore they must be accounted for in the next life so reincarnation which Jesus also taught us is a fact, especially detailed in the Vedic scriptures such as the Bhagavad-Gita which explains how we are to act in order to please God & attain the Kingdom. We must elevate ourselves from attachments to the body which we are trapped in. Those who have not attained such detachment cannot possibly end up in the same place as those who have practiced this principle. That’s why many will have to reincarnate until they have reached that pure state of detachment which you can only attain by regular practice of chanting the holy names of God. Then you will already feel His presence for the kingdom is inside of you already as Jesus teaches in the Gospel of Thomas. This is all so clear in the Bhagavad-Gita as it is by: A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. ❤❤❤
God is love and if LG TV+ people knew God, they would love the way He designed them to be. It is no more complicated than that. You have nothing to apologize for if someone wants to pervert God's creation. Doesn't look like there is any wiggle room in this passage either.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom."
We ‘re all eternal souls. The problem is that you have to act on your belief, it’s not enough just to believe then act in a contrary way to the principles of spiritual life. In the Vedas (Veda means to know), the most ancient holy scriptures on this Earth it says that we are all responsible for our actions and because we’re all eternal souls, when we pass out of the temporary body, we will then acquire our next life according to our actions & mentality, not only our beliefs. I see it as a great disservice to mankind that Christians always say belief is enough when it isn’t actually. To believe without the corresponding actions & lifestyle isn’t going to cut it with Jesus. Many will be disappointed once they find this out after leaving the body. To believe without the actions to go with it makes you a hypocrite doesn’t it?
Gospel Truth!!
Awesome 😎
Thank You sir for you faithfulness. I know time doesn't work that way, but thank you. Praise be to God for His gifts through out the centuries. Pretty sure you are one of them.
Though Dr Heiser is 100% right in saying that God does not stop loving us even when we sin, however, we will not be bestowed with the sceptre of kingdom rulership with Christ if we persist in sin.
Elite sinners, gods ultimate challenge. The boss fight
What one TRULY believes will be lived more and more out over time…
Dr. Heiser was a treasure. Thankfully we still have his work in print and video
If You Love God But You Have A Hindrance In Your Life You Can't Be Used To What God Has For You, I Miss This Man Dr. Michael S. Heiser, God Rest His Soul!
Yes and if we continue to "practice" sin bc we are comforted being saved by grace
in place of living by the power of grace; something is radically wrong.Indeed Jesus says a man cannot serve two masters he will love one hate the other. But Praise God this we know the Lord saves and uses nothing but imperfect fallible people
to join him in his work on earth.
Why capital letters?
He used Moses a murderer, David an adulterer and murderer, et. al. He DOES as He knew we would be sinners. Blessings to u
There are degrees of sin. Presumptuous sin, willful sin, and abominations. I disagree with the Dr. this time.
That is not what he is saying at all. He is not talking about someone who justifies their sin. He is saying that if you try not to sin, then you have to understand there is no elite sin.
Many verses suggest that once we are saved we become a new creature in Christ - and I think this may be getting misinterpreted to mean we become *sinless* while STILL in the flesh, which is what torments so many young Christians...
I think the wording may be what's key here: *"inherit the kingdom of God"* - in that, by grace are we saved, yet we WILL ALSO be judged by our works...
In my Father's house are many mansions...
Or IOW, to "reign with Christ" is not synonymous with being saved - or "getting into" heaven.
he is very smart but very wrong on this point.
“You will enjoy it!”
GOLD. Bless Him.
I am sincerely sad to just find out Dr. Heiser passed away.
So simple. What a legend
We miss you Mike, but to die is gain…
I think Michael is wrong on this since Paul writes in Roman's 6:1 and 6:2.
But know that if you did sin , you just have to confess.
Only problem is that over time you won't even think it's a sin anymore and stop asking for forgiveness.
God forgives if you ask.
@thefbi3056
Agreed 👍
I must have missed the fruit part.
Confession is to own it; but telling an honest judge that your sorry for breaking the law won't set you free
The judge will say You should be sorry Now the fine must be paid!
No honest judge will let you off the hook with an apology
And you can bet neither will Holy God Righteous Judge when we appear before him.
If at all genuinely honest this should keep you awake at night,
You've got Gods word to prove it; at judgment the books will be open and your life will back it up!
The Bible says So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be ((good or bad))
Sin we own it Jesus bought it that's what he did on that cross. What we must do is turn from our unbelief
and trust Christ finished work of the cross like you would trust a parachute.
In other words repentance in Hebrew means to change your way of thinking; renew your mind "daily"
Let go of unbelief; and receive Gods gift of Jesus unto salvation.
Faith is belief with wings anchored in "How" Christ died for died sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried and that he he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: It is complete; finished
Because Jesus paid it all; And that changes everything!
But how does that cover sins you don’t know are sins? Every time you drink a glass of water and don’t thank God you’re sinning. If you run a stop sign or do a rolling stop you are breaking a law that has authority that is derived by the ultimate authority of God so you are sinning. There are sooooo many things like that. If it is not simple as to explain to a child then it’s not the saving gospel. I have been struggling a lot lately and doing my share of crying and anguish to the point of being suicidal. This is not an easy subject. And if I am heartbroken and sincere and trying my best to be humble and I love mercy and justice then why do I feel so lost ? I mean seriously I do so much research and praying. I only want to be led by the spirit. I’m a dad of 3 children under 7 and am married to a wonderful woman and am very blessed. And even still I have so many questions and anguishes. And I am definitely not tech savvy so I don’t know how to see if anyone responds to this lol. But I will say this I’m thankful to God for all the good in my life and I look forward to a day when the madness will end. I hope whoever reads this will be blessed and led by God. I give thanks in the name of the Son Jesus my lord. Blessings and mercy be upon you.
@@Sklarecrow
Re: I have been struggling a lot lately.
"This side of heaven "Welcome to the 4-ever family of God Lol
When we remove "Self" from the equation and "rest" in Jesus trusting Him
like you would a parachute believing not that Jesus died for our sins but placing our faith in "How"
Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: You R Saved all sin forgiven & forgotten past present and future.
Remember Jesus did not die of heart attack; nor did he drown walking across the water with Peter;
Without controversy Our faith is anchored in how Christ died; How he freely surrendered his life by shedding his ((blood)) for the remission and forgiveness of our sin. Christ took our place on that cross in order to pay our debt before God; a debt he didn't owe at a price we could never pay; ((Paid in full))
Therefore put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
Christ saved us from sin not to sin and when we do sin Christ died one time 4 all sin past present and future.
Not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. Not perfection but heavenly direction looking to Jesus the author and finisher of our faith who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Jesus says repent and believe or ye will perish; The Hebrew meaning of repent is to "renew" your mind daily
fresh from the word.Take out the trash daily. The evil one knows when you renew your "mind"
God will change your heart. That's why Satan will distract you from cracking that Bible.
Sin will keep you from Gods word and Gods word will draw you away from sin.
A healthy body does not need to be told when to eat; the stomach growls.
Likewise the Bible is Gods word bread of life living waters; consume it daily.
Your soul will be revived with oxygen from heaven. The same breath of God that parted the Red sea was oxygen from heaven that same breath entered the upper room at "Pentecost" And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, That same oxygen from heaven belongs to all who will repent receive and believe the Gospel.
That "Good News" will part the red sea in your life and will also enter the upper room of your heart.
Rest assured; God never promised the journey would be easy; just the strength to complete the journey.
Sure there are times you feel alone; but we never walk alone!
I love you and care about you.
Love God love thy neighbor; Fear the Lord fear no evil.
Psalm 3:5-6
Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
GBY & those u love!
Temptation itself isn't sin. Acting on the temptation and following it is. When we stumble, we repent. Repentance is continual in the life of a Christian. Many folks who struggle/have struggled with this issue in their history at some point have taken their identity from it as the culture would have them. When we are in Christ, we are a new creation. We have a new identity and it is wrapped up in HIM. We do best not to think of ourselves that way.
Is it ok to be real and say, I struggle with X,Y,Z? YES, and it is helpful for others to be able to minister and pray with you. Is it wise to say I am this type of person? Not really. Not useful, not beneficial, and I would even say in Christ, TRULY IN CHRIST-- it is a lie. Look here even as Paul discourages the Corinthians backsliding, while affirming who they are called to be: "Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."
Who you formerly were is not who you are in Christ. Be wrapped up in Him, put on Christ. We will deal with the flesh until we go home, but we are called to live in the Spirit. We need a close, intimate relationship with God to live that out. God is more than willing! Christ gave his life that you may have life abundantly. Eternal life begins the moment you first believe.
their are elite sins the bibles clear "there is a sin that leads to death and not to pray for this" it also says"he who handed me over to you has the greater sin" the bible teaches more severe punishments in the o.t exodus for those who raped,murdered,prostitued themselves.....that being said yes a homosexual can be forgiven the bible says 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 "such were some of you"
We aren't in the OT law we are fulfilled
@@prestonyannotti7661 Just because we aren't I under the law does not mean these thing weren't written for our wisdom,the bible clear the servant who knew what to do will get more beatings then the servant that didn't,don't idolize hesier study to show yourself approval there are greater sins with more severe punishments as I've shown through scripture
What a dangerous video! Dr. Heiser is right in every point! but his claim, that becoming a Christian will change certain behaviors can easily be over heard, either on purpose ore by not paying close attention to what he is saying. Some of these changes can be very costly. Ephesians 4:17-32.
Its when we deny our sin and embrace it and say God loves me just as I am, I don't need to change.
Sounds like a justification to continue to sin.
@@davel4811 Yes that's my point.
When people justify their sin and even call it a good thing they are lost.
Lets say we have a gay person in our church who is still active.
They know it's a sin but they have not over come it but are trying then we must continue to encourage them.
My point would be is this.
Just because they are still participating in a gay relationship does not mean they aint born again and God is working with them.
By the way God does not work on every sinful practice at the same time.
Rather He has a plan to eradicate our sins and our job is to focus on the sin God is working with us to eradicate.
OLE JIBJOB the Christian sees a sinful behavior that they are offended with in a brother is sister and decides and decides that they need to work on that particular sin.
If the person admits it's a sin and it needs to be dealt with then all is good, if they make excuses for that sin then thats a red flag.
For some reason being gay is the most hideous sin in the world.
I would put domestic violence and control on a much higher level of sin.
Being gay is not the worst sin in the world but many Christians seem to act like it is.
I just want to say here I am not gay and never have been.
Yup come just as you are;
But God loves you way too much to leave you in that condition.
@@davel4811not if u read scripture . We are saved by grace thru faith NOT works. You sin we all sin. Yes we strive NOT to sin and be obedient. None will ever be sinless. If we claim we never sin we might as well tell God to move over as we would be like Him. We NEVER will be. For years I lived under condemnation . Not from God but myself( coming from the enemy) Believing I will NEVER be good enough so.I might as well just give up. Finally God showed me the TRUTH in His Word. NO I WILL NEVER B SINLESS THATS Y HE SENT HIS SON TO DIE FOR OUR SINS. Of course I strive to be obedient and not grieve Him knowing tho that I will not be perfect until I am given a new sinless body when I am with Him. I just don’t want anyone to live with under that condemnation as that is NOT from God but from “ the adversary”. Blessings to u
There is another difference, and that is the degree of hardening of the heart. While grace is freely available to all, and sins are not graded on a curve, the sins do differ in how their continuation tends to impede the will to repentance. It is surely easier for a murderer to repent than it is a homosexual because most murderers understand that they have committed wickedness, at least in the eyes of man.
Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the unforgivable sin. However, if someone is deeply concerned they have commited this sin and truely have a repentant heart and willingness to live by faith, they have not commited this sin. But if one does commit such a sin, there is no redemption for them in Christ. Apostasy is a good example (thinking Brandon Roberts here).
Jesus cleans us up. Its his responsibility to do that.
No, you have responsibilities as well. We have to participate. Love is a two way street. We don’t participate meritoriously in the salvation, but we do participate in the sanctification.
I'd say his ability to do so, but it's our responsibility to look to Him for that. Phillipians 2:12-13
@@jackfm7046The moment you give yourself any credit for how you respond to God you are boasting; "look how i responded and took responsibility, i'm so good for reacting to God this way, look at me..." You are no longer "saved" but claim to have saved yourself. The gospel makes it clear sinners can never save themselves.
@@themadazi That conclusion doesn’t logically follow. Our responsibility to accept salvation is not necessarily meritorious. God does the saving, we merely say “yes”.
@@brando3342
U R Wise; we r to live empowered by Grace!
Thanks!
If you don't have to change your life at all then why did God give us rules to follow?
We aren't perfect only Jesus was perfect he fulfilled us now we in our brokenness seek him in all we do. We will stumble and eat dirt but God loves us and we by loving him will seek him. God knows we can't follow his word to the T but we still try
@@prestonyannotti7661 But, why bother breaking those rules if willfully and without remorse provide no consequence.
@danielkrcmar5395 Consequences do happen though and they can be severe but the consequences aren't necessarily handed our by God they are allowed to happen
Amazing🎉
💯💯💯 OSAS 🔒 ❤️
Sin is a measure of how much you love God, not the other way around.
🤯! But I don't get the last part... 😬🤦🏽♀
@@michellemybelle9591 Ah. I meant it's not a measure of how much God loves you. He doesn't love His children any less when they mess up.
The woman’s question is sincere and genuinely is struggling and wants to not sin any more in lesbian behavior. The problem I’ve found is that 99% of the gay community doesn’t believe it’s sin anymore. It’s a form of love that should be celebrated. It’s spitting in God’s eye.
And that's the core issue.
Well stated.
Yup
Homosexuality is a natural expression of human sexuality. I always prioritize academic data over religious claims.
The fact that some claim homosexuality is unnatural (better not let them read Ray Blanchard) puts the burden of proof on them.
@@js1423 Salvation isn't natural it's supernatural.
We are created in the image of God; that's why sin is exceedingly sinful.
The Bible says every way of a man seems right in his own eyes.
When ask the question R U a good person most people readily answer yes.
But while on earth as the son of man Jesus said only God is good meaning "moral excellence"
Adam failed to take God at his word; sin revealed death entered the world; and that changed everything.
Adams original sin carried forward; living waters cut off the bridge between God and mankind was broken.
Indeed God warned the wages of sin is death; over 150,000 people die each day;
death is no respecter of persons or age. Death will take away everything you love in life from people to puppies;
Do you know what death is? Death is evidence God meant what he said.
The height from where we have fallen isn't natural therefore death isn't natural; it too is super natural.
In the OT God said he would defeat sin & death, In the NT He showed us how he did it!
btw R U a good person?
"Here's 10 Commandments but don't worry, there's no consequences if you ignore them and go against them anyway"...
You ought not think there are no natural consequences to disobeying God? You might put your child on time out but you won't turn them away from admitting there mistakes you won't love them less
@@prestonyannotti7661 So you give your child a consequence for poor behaviour. This guy is basically saying there isn't one when you break God's rules.
@danielkrcmar5395 There are consequences in this world but God still loves and takes us back MH never said otherwise
@@danielkrcmar5395no he’s explaining Gods GRACE. Scripture tells us the same we are saved by grace through faith while we were sinners. I know I break commandments ( I have thoughts of covetousness once in a while. ) IWe ALL sin. This is legalism and keeps many from even attempting to develop an intimate relationship w/ Yeshua. God knew we would sin thus sending His son ( in flesh) to save us. Of course we strive for obedience. We will NEVER be sinless. As Missler says if you say you do not ever sin you should tell God to move over as that would make you equal to the Most Hgh. Blessings to u
@@ChildofGod-q7j Sorry but there has to be a difference between sining because we are fallen and so sin by nature and knowingly/actively sining. Otherwise setting out any rules is utterly pointless.
I wonder if we have to live trapped,
I would argue that pedophillia/sex trafficking and blaspheming The Holy Spirit are among the worst sins a person can commit.
Perhaps they are the most damaging to a human person's dignity, rights, body, and psyche, but beyond that it becomes a question of sociocultural taboo. By which yardstick do you measure sin?
Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is (so far as I've ever seen) the one & *ONLY* sin that is UNFORGIVABLE!
@@AncientCampfire Sin= missing the mark. Like an arrow missing a bullseye.
I would say these are among the worst you could do.
You hurt yourself, a child, a childs innocence, a childs future, a childs family.
You potentially get them doubting God ( asking to themselves what kind of God would allow this) and to turn a child away from God and causing them in turn to potentially repeat the cycle and grow up to cause the same harm to another child.
This would now be blaspheming the holy spirit by turning people away from Him.
Also, you are way off track with the sociocultural taboo.
If it's a society thing, then why is there more slavery today than ever before?
Furthermore, where does a society get it's laws from?
The Sermon on the Mount is probably the highest ethical and moral teaching there was.
In fact, a lot of law codes point to it with their creation.
@@openeyes-411 You are correct. It is unforgivable in the Eyes of The LORD.
Its also intentionally vague since you can blaspheme in a multitude of ways.
But child sex trafficking?
There is no coming back from that.
You might as well start practicing what it feels like to have a pitchfork up your butt. Because that is what is in a hyperbolic sense, what is waiting for any that do these things.
Jesus said you should tie a noose around your neck and cast it into the sea if you so much as harm one hair on the head of these little ones and cause them to stumble.
Which means leading Kids away from God is likely even worse than doing it to an adult.
Totally fine with this. They can burn in hell for eternity.
I'm not sure how the increase of human depravity and sin is contradictory to the variety of the concept of sin across cultures. There is no universal culture besides what you could call a general human behavior.
I understand how you can say that one sin can lead to another. But all sins can do that. Theft as a parent can teach the child that theft is the way to live and cause them to stray from God, and continue the cycle. It's easy to construct all sorts of hypotheticals.
Law codes and their severity of punishment do not have a direct correlation, if any, to the severity of sin anymore even if they once did. Otherwise you'd have to repent for blowing a stop sign at an empty intersection.
My main point is that I'm looking for a justification to believe that these, while extreme and repulsive, sinful acts will merit worse divine punishment in this life or the next. If they are worse sins but do not merit worse punishment, specifically by God, not by people, then it is worse only in a descriptive, technical sense.
So, can I continue to cheat on my wife and still be saved?
If you can still be a sarcastic mudslinger on the internet, I'm sure you can ask forgiveness for worse things.
The difference is whether or not you seek sin and intentionally wish to engage in it. This is what the homosexuals do. One cannot seek both sin and Christ. We do sin, but should be repentant and wish to avoid it. Not relish in it and seek it out.
1000%. God still loves regardless of the sin - but he still hates the sin. So you end up with cognitive dissonance if you're still pursuing the sin over God. That's my understanding.
Not totally! We then have to live by His Word in scripture in which there are commands. Once you know that you are doing wrong you cannot go on doing wrong. One must repent and change. This isn't to say God does not love you, Doctor Mike is right God will always love us but we will still get judged at the end. So, the question is do you want Eternal life or Eternal damnation- Weigh it! Light, Darkness, Light, Darkness....
Repentance in Hebrew means renew your thinking daily.
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith.
Paul instructs us to renew our minds (take out the trash)
Satan knows if you renew your thinking God will change your heart,
For those who repent "renew their mind"
take God at his word and "receive" his Gospel. Biblical believe is reliance.
Mercy holds back Grace supplies Faith delivers.
But fornication (sexual-immorality) and all moral-uncleanness or greediness, let it *not-even* [mēde] be named *among you* [en humin], as becometh *saints* [hagiois],
and disgraceful-behaviour [aischrotēs] and foolish-talking [mōrologia] or coarse-talking/joking [eutrapelia], ...
*For this* [touto gar] ye know, that no fornicator [pornos], nor unclean-person [akathartos], nor greedy-person [pleonektēs], who is an idolater, *hath* [echei] any inheritance *in the kingdom* [en tē¡ basileia¡] of Christ and of God.
*Let no-man deceive you with empty words:* [Mēdeis humas apatatō kenois logois•] ...
- Eph 5^3-6
(Jesus can set one free from sinning: Jn 8^30-36)
The issue of homosexuality being an “elite sin” comes from the repeated claims from the homosexual “Christian” community that:
1) The Bible does not openly condemn homosexuality (Yet prohomosex authors such as Via and Hays dare to disagree with their prohomosex mentor John Boswell and readily admit Paul was clear in saying homosexual behavior is a sin)
2) God made me this way and God is to be blamed or at least asked why he made me a sinner
3) I can continue in unrepentant sin and be saved
4) God loves everyone and moral relativism is accepted by God unto salvation.
5) God is only love and He does not judge.
One saying they are trapped by sin and can do nothing about it in order to justify their continued sin is not what God had in mind. If pedophiles claimed that their actions are allowed while undergoing sanctification we would all be appalled. If murderers claimed they can continue to murder, who would agree with that?
But many homosexual “Christians” claim just that about themselves. THEIR sin is elite and different and not to be judged because of biological reasons. Ignoring the facts that these sins are more common when under the influence or weekend partying. Biology changes during the week I guess.
Israel was judged for homosexual immorality around the Asherah poles and they were not saved but judged. His prior stated positions such as Mormons are saved because of their belief in God ignores the point that correct belief in who God Is and His plan of redemption outside of works or continued unrepentant sin shows a serious disconnect that I must take into account when listening to him.
The world says: “we are who we are by what we are tempted by-therefore give into your temptation and celebrate it”
God says: “We are who we are by how we react to temptation. “
The world says: “come out.”
God says: “Come Out from the world and be Holy for I Am Holy”
I must disagree with Dr Heiser on this one. May you rest in Peace with the Lord.
PS. Pride is “the elite sin”. Pride in sinfulness is a one way ticket straight to #£||
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You know what? I’ve struggled against same sex attraction my whole life. Well… perhaps it was after I was molested. In fact, I am sure that it stems from that SHAME of an innocent 5 year old and confusion of how to deal with it. Not all people who struggle are proud. I’ll tell you though… the pride in the church has been the biggest thing making it hard to have people to talk to and work it out because of PRIDE on their part. Struggling for the assurance of salvation and not walk in condemnation. However, I know I’m my heart and by the Word… there is no condemnation to those who are covered in His blood and acknowledge their need. The church needs to make a space cos there’s a very tangible agenda on todays youth. Maybe if your child was targeted you would have more compassion and make a safe place for them? Maybe? Maybe not in this period of history? I wonder who’s gonna reach them… the agenda that “ fronts” love? Or the church who has the power of “ real love”, but denies His power? I am redeemed by the blood of the Lamb even in my struggle. And so are many others.
@@metatouta Shalom and blessings.
I believe you may be missing @misterpeabody3373's point.
TRUE love from a brother or sister in Messiah would be to tell you the Biblical TRUTH. What doe's Shaul say in 1 Corinthians 6? 'Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were'.
What some of you WERE, not what some of you ARE. Big difference. That is what the Bible teaches and that is what the Church should be teaching. True repentance does not allow us to stay in continuous sin without a change of heart, mind and direction. In love. David
I agree
@@jasonlee8497 Amen Brother 🙏
@@metatoutaThere are two general stereotypes of Christian’s confronting SSA. Those who take the approach that they are prideful in their being for their actions. And those who humbly confront their SSA with varying degrees of success.
The error of the church is addressing both of these general stereotypes with the same response. Condemnation. Generally because the church feels threatened. Also for lack of understanding and compassion.
Yes, the church must call out sin. Yet the church must provide compassionate support through accountability support groups. It would be the same for alcoholics or others tormented by a specific sin. One facing such torment cannot do so alone. Finding a church that is out of balance on either side of the general stereotypes is also not the answer.
The Bible is quite clear that sex was a blessing from God between heterosexuals in marriage. Sex is not a right. It is a blessing that can be lost through sin by both heterosexuals and homosexuals and regardless, unfortunately, of the origin of the sin. That is the reality of the fallen world we live in.
To anyone facing SSA and humbly doing their best to resist temptation I suggest you read a book by an English Pastor named Sam Allbery and entitled “Is God Anti-Gay.” He has fought SSA for decades and I believe has made clear the path one must follow who has SSA.
Specifically he states: “God’s message for gay people is the same as his message for everyone. Repent and believe.”
He continues: “It is the same for us all-“whoever.” I am to deny myself, take up my cross and follow him. Every Christian is called to costly sacrifice. Denying yourself does not mean tweaking your behavior here and there. It is saying “no” to your deepest sense of who you are, for the sake of Christ. To take up a cross is to declare your life (as you have known it) forfeit. It is laying down your life for the very reason that your life, it turns out, is not yours at all. It belongs to Jesus. He made it. And through his death he has bought it.”
I believe anyone who has SSA and can deny themselves and follow Christ will be richly rewarded. Those who practice their SSA in pride will not be.
PS. I should have made clear that my prior post was directed towards those who pridefully deny their culpability. It was not directed against those who humbly battle against SSA. I pray you can find a church scripturally balanced in its approach to SSA and that you can provide Biblically sound support to others with SSA. Be that support.
Blessings in Christ brother
Why would he love us?
But homosexuality is not a sin common to man. It is aberrant. Lying is common. Stealing is common. Merging make anatomies is NOT common. The temptation is NOT common. Then with the chain of devolution in Romans 1, peaking with that particular sun, is it not in somewhat of a category of its own?
cleaning up your life and obeying the Commandments of God have nothing to do with your Eternal salvation according to heiser?
only the gospel?
does Heiser even know what the gospel is?
That "creeping thought" is likely the Holy Spirit trying to convict you of sin and stir you to repent.
What people are fishing for when they ask something like that is approval of their homosexual activity. Homosexual acts are still sins.
Bill Loader makes a good case for homosexual acceptance.
Since the New Testament’s view on sexuality is very much intertwined with 1st century superstitions and pseudoscientific views of the world, they can set aside in light of new date like fraternal birth order effect that explains homosexuality among humans via evolutionary biology
@@js1423 I don't care what some dude I've never heard of claims. Sodomy is a sin, just as fornication is a sin. If asked to pick between actual scripture and some rando, I'm going with scripture.
If you engage in fornication and sodomy, and do not stop and seek to repent, you're not getting through those pearly gates. That's just how it is.
@@js1423 "new date like fraternal birth order effect that explains homosexuality among humans via evolutionary biology"
Yeah, I'm gonna call bullshit on that. Nobody comes out of the womb thinking "Gee, I sure can't wait to get my ass railed."
@@ProfessorOfPoorTaste The words "sodomy" and "fornication" carry subjective, religious baggage and don't appear in any research literature anymore.
Blanchard's work was academic and peer-reviewed, something which Dr. Michael Heiser claims to value.
@@js1423 "The words "sodomy" and "fornication" carry subjective, religious baggage and don't appear in any research literature anymore."
I completely disagree, as does actual Christian teaching for the past 2,000 years.
Why should I accept an argument that's only come about in the past 100 years? Because you couch it in terms of "science"?
Sounds to me like you're just trying to make excuses for sin.
homosexuality is a sin but it is a result of complete rejection of the gospel. if you read romans 1 that is what it says. you are turned over to that and you change to desire that. God gave you a reprobate mind which means rejected. so God actually rejects them. it is not a sin that is unforgivable. all sin is forgivable. its a result of the final rejection of the Gospel. So they cant be saved.
Thank for the great exegetical exposition, and to show how the Bible gets objective reality wrong.
Homosexuality is indeed natural, at least among males with the fraternal birth order effect
Sexual sins are indeed worse than many others, the Bible is clear about that. But the issue isn't with homosexuality, per se, the issue is the societal attempt to normalize the sin. It's the same response our fathers saw with divorce, and later abortion. Our earliest fathers saw this with idol worship. Any time society tries to normalize a sin, the Bride of Christ must remind herself that she is to be different; she is to adhere to God's word, not the world.
Homosexuality is natural and normal. What’s your academic sources in favour?
I recommend “Fraternal birth order and the maternal immune hypothesis of male homosexuality” by Dr. Ray Blanchard for starters
Dr. Michael Heiser is a Saint now, as such, ask and Dr. Heiser can intercede on our behalf to Christ as part of the Divine Council of Elohim.
Why not just ask Christ to intercede for you?
@@jgamez5023 Same reason He instituted the Divine Council. For His pleasure.
@@ParanormalTheology I don't really understand your answer, but I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you have Christ interceding on your behalf, isn't that enough? I mean he's the ultimate interceder.
Everyone born from above is a Saint of God whether in heaven or earth.
As far as a mediator between God and man; in one word "Christ"
@@jgamez5023 I totally get your response and THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ASKING AND NOT ATTACKING!
In Dr. Heiser's Doc, "The Unseen Realm" he mentions the Divine Council. "Of course He doesn't need their help, but He let's them participate." If God intended to put give humans the places of His rebellious sons that fell, that means that humans would be participating like the Divine Council in the Psalms. This means that the concept of The Communion of Saints and "plural Elohim like the human dead" would also be able to interact with YHWH like the "Spirit" in the Psalms.
God does all things in His pleasure and desires to share His lot with His family, ie us. Therefore He doesn't need anyone's help but He let's them participate because He loves His kids.
Ahh, but I would argue that homosexuality leads to grooming which hurts children, and the millstone verse (Luke 17:2) describes a specific sin and a clear example of the specific result.
So does lying to the children about following the pagan gods of Christmas and Easter and Hollywood and all that good stuff. It all leads to sin. God also says that strife and haughty eyes are an abomination. His grace is the only thing that saves and we should be following His commands BECAUSE we Love Him, not because one sin is lesser than another.
The Bible continually refers to “the greater sin” and while sin is sin some are definitely worse than others.
@@helenenikki2391you’re just trying to defend homosexuality, grooming children is much worse than celebrating Christmas, that’s insane.
Can you provide the argument about how homosexuality leads to grooming?
@@ngkngk875 I don't agree with homosexuality or any other sin that Jesus tells us about. Just like He says, not one yod or tittle will drop from the law until all is fulfilled. What I was saying is that grooming can happen in all ways, not just homosexuality.
Homosexuality is a natural expression of human sexuality. If there’s a conflict between that and religion, ditch the religion.
I always suspected Heiser to be one of those kind of religious folk, but good to see him confirm it.
Discipleship is essential but not salvation. Jesus is salvation.
I understand the struggle must be hard for her because feeling lesbian but beeing a christian also she can,t "practice" homosexuality because it is an abomination to God..
another Dr Mike fallacy. those publicizing these videos continuously show how Mike is wrong with his philosophy. He does say your type of sin does not disqualify but never says if you don't repent of sins will disqualify. sad.
I am very aware that there is no elite sin... however, how do we reconcile what Dr Heiser asserts here with Paul's writing to the Corinthians:
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor [a]homosexuals, nor [b]sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were [c]sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
Paul’s point is that none of us can get into Heaven without accepting Jesus as our Savior. Since all of us sin, and cannot possibly stop sinning as long as we are in these fleshly bodies, then we all MUST accept Jesus as Lord and Savior. Doesn’t mean that we can’t ever sin in order to be saved, otherwise Heaven would be empty!
We are justified by our belief in Jesus, not by our feeble attempts to reach a sinless state of being. Belief is all that is needed! Faith alone saves!
Perhaps there is a difference between people who continually practice those particular sins to the point that it has become their identifying characteristic and those who may commit those sins from time to time but repent.
I think that verse 11 probably produces your answer. For the one with faith in Christ, even if there is a struggle with one of those sins after regeneration, you are still washed and justified as a new creation. As John said 1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write in unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous". We should be thankful that he is there, advocating for us in our imperfection, living to intercede for us constantly (Heb. 7:25).
@@highlander-jb6jv Perhaps, but that doesn’t mean that people who are “living in sin” aren’t saved. That’s why we shouldn’t judge others. Only God knows who His saved souls are.