sam had 31 and 33 goals the last 2 years, then 57 this year.....he's only had 1 year of this production,,,he needs to show more than 1 year to get this type of money, he's also 29 years old ...a couple of years ago kreider had over 50 then after that never got more than 39
Guys who are big and less than 30 years old who score 57 goals are worth a lot. The problem with Reinhart is that 57 goal tally seems to be an extreme outlier. His career high in goals previously merely was 33. He's not a defensive stopper. You can't play him on your penalty kill. If you pay Reinhart $10M AAV and he reverts back to his career mean of around 30 goals per year with only so so defense you've wrecked yourself. Risky bet. Caveat emptor.
I get what you’re saying but you realize he was 4th in selke voting? To say he’s not defensive is not a stretch, it’s not true. I don’t think Florida pats him that much but he will have that option. The Hope is he stays at a discount and we bring back as many as possible
Several things. He did score a lot of key goals his season (powerplay) including the Cup winner. His age is working against him. Plus, where would he have been without Barkov? I'm thinking he will end up taking 8 to 8.5 million tops. Whether it's with Florida is a whole discussion in and of itself.
Did this former 7th pair defenceman just compared Reinhart to Nylander? One is Stanley cup winner, other is not. Pretty obvious who is worth more and has done more. Willy is 8mil dollariduus player at most.
Winning a cup doesn't mean you're worth more or a better player than someone. You must be American having that foolish mindset. Nylander has ten less points carrer wise in 93 games less.
@@alexwinter3272 while Nylander disappears in the playoffs, Reinhart thrives in them, that's why he's better, no point of comparison, it's even offensive for Rhino to compare him with that overpaid ghost
@@alexwinter3272 Im from Finland and Reinhart is better than Nylander, worth more and is Stanley cup WINNER. Major difference. Who gives a dogs doodoo for "muh points in regular season..." boohoo 🥱 Overall better and worth more money lets get real not Toronto fanboi.
Hard to see him at 10+, know he had a good year but that doesn't mean he's going to ever produce anything near that ever again. I would like to see the league change rules on cap though, either give teams with higher tax more cap or teams with zero tax less, it's kinda unfair if you think about it.
Absolutely not only reason he has that many goals is barkov and the powerplay where hes the bumper he only turned his game around playing in Florida in Buffalo where he had to drive a line he didnt do anything now that hes not the main man on the line hes able to produce no one should make over 10 and not be able to drive a line (cough marner Tavares cough) and whats up with everyone getting overpaid recently Hronek got a bag for having one mid year like in what world does Reinhart make more than Brayden point only way he should get 10+ bags is if he leaves Florida to get overpaid i mean thinking he should make more then Barkov is borderline autistic
Florida has some serious decisions to make. Reinhart and Montour are due up then next year is Bennett, Verhaeghe on good deals plus Ekblad and they don’t have much in the cupboard. It’s going to be hard to repeat.
No one GM in the league is look at the leafs contacts and saying "ya that's where I see him" . After all their signing they wonder why ALL other teams get a paid cut
For sure...he gets that in a new contract all day every day in the modern NHL. Whether or not he is actually worth the $10M cap hit is another question entirely. But he is getting it..
@jagermaisterretsiamregaj4935 They would if they could because that's a fair price in today's market. Half the Panthers roster is UFA and there isn't enough money to go around, but they still might sign him. And if they do, it will more likely than not come with a $10M cap hit.
@@memphissander3512Do you know who Johnathan Cheecho is thats who he could be without an elite man like barkov next to him plus rn Florida's got mojo look at the Tkachuck and huberdeau trade hubby was elite and fell off a cliff and Tkachuck was good but wasn't elite until in Florida
Most of us panthers fans realize that part of why he did so well this year is he was with barkov and he probably won't match it again. However he's still a good player that fits in here and hopefully he'll take a bit of a more team friendly deal
@@idawg7332 I thought the same thing Barkov made Verhaeghe a first line winger he was a depth forward on Tampa barely playing Sam was a 2nd line at best player in Buffalo with no elite talent on his line (didn't play with Eichel) and did practically nothing. Barkov is no longer underrated but a top 10 player in the league arguably top 5
And that's how dumb contracts like Huberdeau, Clarkson, Cheecho, Lucic happens you over rate points because the people around you. Do you think Krieder deserves 10+ mil? he scored 50 the year before does Zach Hyman deserve 10+ mil?
@@johnc3351 He's worth 8 at most, but will obviously get more than that. Pettersson isn't worth 11.6 and not even sure why you're using Pettersson as a comparison here.
@@alexwinter3272 lol, I'm on the internet talking to a random person with obviously very low intelligence. If Petterson who's obviously not worth 11.6 and he got 11.6, then obviously Reihart can easily get more than him. Get it? or do you need a more detailed explanation for that low iq of yours?
Hear me out... Edmonton should extend Draisaitl for 14 mil, then sign Reinhart for 13 and have no cap space for anything.
Why aren't you a GM? That's brilliant.
and fill the rest of the roster with their ahl oil kings
by the way, you still have to pay them the league minimum, mind you
He was a 67 point player just the prior season. Good luck with that price tag into his mid 30's.
And 84 point in 22
If Marner is worth 11 million... Reinhart is easily worth 12 million.
But Marner isn’t worth 11 million..🤷🏻
If draisaitl is worth $8.5 million… reinhart is easily worth less than 7.5
@jagermaisterretsiamregaj4935 9.5
@jagermaisterretsiamregaj4935 ..no argument there..
@@antiprogpragmatist859 True enough... great 9 million dollar player.
sam had 31 and 33 goals the last 2 years, then 57 this year.....he's only had 1 year of this production,,,he needs to show more than 1 year to get this type of money, he's also 29 years old ...a couple of years ago kreider had over 50 then after that never got more than 39
Guys who are big and less than 30 years old who score 57 goals are worth a lot. The problem with Reinhart is that 57 goal tally seems to be an extreme outlier. His career high in goals previously merely was 33. He's not a defensive stopper. You can't play him on your penalty kill. If you pay Reinhart $10M AAV and he reverts back to his career mean of around 30 goals per year with only so so defense you've wrecked yourself. Risky bet. Caveat emptor.
Reinhart is a great defender
To me rn this screams Jeff Skinner a 40 goal amazing year then huge drop off
I get what you’re saying but you realize he was 4th in selke voting? To say he’s not defensive is not a stretch, it’s not true. I don’t think Florida pats him that much but he will have that option. The Hope is he stays at a discount and we bring back as many as possible
Several things. He did score a lot of key goals his season (powerplay) including the Cup winner. His age is working against him. Plus, where would he have been without Barkov? I'm thinking he will end up taking 8 to 8.5 million tops. Whether it's with Florida is a whole discussion in and of itself.
I dont know. Tough call. He scores timely goals and did much more than Thachuk this year. He scored the Cup winning goal, that’s for sure.
Did this former 7th pair defenceman just compared Reinhart to Nylander? One is Stanley cup winner, other is not. Pretty obvious who is worth more and has done more. Willy is 8mil dollariduus player at most.
Winning a cup doesn't mean you're worth more or a better player than someone. You must be American having that foolish mindset. Nylander has ten less points carrer wise in 93 games less.
By your logic Brent Sopel is a better player than Shea Weber.
@@alexwinter3272 while Nylander disappears in the playoffs, Reinhart thrives in them, that's why he's better, no point of comparison, it's even offensive for Rhino to compare him with that overpaid ghost
@@alexwinter3272 Im from Finland and Reinhart is better than Nylander, worth more and is Stanley cup WINNER. Major difference. Who gives a dogs doodoo for "muh points in regular season..." boohoo 🥱 Overall better and worth more money lets get real not Toronto fanboi.
Hard to see him at 10+, know he had a good year but that doesn't mean he's going to ever produce anything near that ever again. I would like to see the league change rules on cap though, either give teams with higher tax more cap or teams with zero tax less, it's kinda unfair if you think about it.
Considering they don't pay taxes, he can sign for 9 million and still be making more money than Nylander or Marner.
they do
I still maintain he'll sign a team-friendly deal of 8x8,5M.
nailed it and a win win I think.
Absolutely not only reason he has that many goals is barkov and the powerplay where hes the bumper he only turned his game around playing in Florida in Buffalo where he had to drive a line he didnt do anything now that hes not the main man on the line hes able to produce no one should make over 10 and not be able to drive a line (cough marner Tavares cough) and whats up with everyone getting overpaid recently Hronek got a bag for having one mid year like in what world does Reinhart make more than Brayden point only way he should get 10+ bags is if he leaves Florida to get overpaid i mean thinking he should make more then Barkov is borderline autistic
Nylander isn't actually good compare cause Leafs over pay so much to their stars.
He’s not but he’ll get 10-12 easy. Rip the team that gets that contract.
Just because leafs have been and apparently are signing guys to too big contacts doesn’t mean everyone else is!
What kind of question is this? If Petterson can get 11.6M, Reihart should get 12M easy. Petterson's contract is the biggest bust I've ever witnessed.
He’s a 8x9M player in this market and in Florida imo
Florida has some serious decisions to make. Reinhart and Montour are due up then next year is Bennett, Verhaeghe on good deals plus Ekblad and they don’t have much in the cupboard. It’s going to be hard to repeat.
No one GM in the league is look at the leafs contacts and saying "ya that's where I see him" . After all their signing they wonder why ALL other teams get a paid cut
I don’t think that # would age well attached to Sam but as of right now he is
he's going to drop next year
He will stay with the cats😸🏆👌🏼🏆👌🏼🏆😸
Better player then marner,, ever have a cup
For sure...he gets that in a new contract all day every day in the modern NHL. Whether or not he is actually worth the $10M cap hit is another question entirely. But he is getting it..
@jagermaisterretsiamregaj4935 They would if they could because that's a fair price in today's market. Half the Panthers roster is UFA and there isn't enough money to go around, but they still might sign him. And if they do, it will more likely than not come with a $10M cap hit.
lol, how will he do without Barkov?
@jagermaisterretsiamregaj4935 cant say until it happens. 50 goals is 50 goals, irregardless it's still a great accomplishment.
@@memphissander3512Do you know who Johnathan Cheecho is thats who he could be without an elite man like barkov next to him plus rn Florida's got mojo look at the Tkachuck and huberdeau trade hubby was elite and fell off a cliff and Tkachuck was good but wasn't elite until in Florida
Most of us panthers fans realize that part of why he did so well this year is he was with barkov and he probably won't match it again. However he's still a good player that fits in here and hopefully he'll take a bit of a more team friendly deal
@@idawg7332 I thought the same thing Barkov made Verhaeghe a first line winger he was a depth forward on Tampa barely playing Sam was a 2nd line at best player in Buffalo with no elite talent on his line (didn't play with Eichel) and did practically nothing. Barkov is no longer underrated but a top 10 player in the league arguably top 5
Nobody is worth that much, can he feed or heal?
depends on the market, in a taxed market he is, non taxed he isnt
Got paid 8.6 for 8 years with the Florida panthers 🤫🤫😮💨😮💨
No
50 goals is 50 goals man.
And that's how dumb contracts like Huberdeau, Clarkson, Cheecho, Lucic happens you over rate points because the people around you. Do you think Krieder deserves 10+ mil? he scored 50 the year before does Zach Hyman deserve 10+ mil?
@@yoljuma4431 its up to the players and management to determine contract. if hyman can put up 50 in a contract year, then he can get 10 million.
He's worth 8 at most. One year wonder, but some sorry GM will overpay for him.
you're delusional if you think he's worth less than Petterson.
@@johnc3351 He's worth 8 at most, but will obviously get more than that. Pettersson isn't worth 11.6 and not even sure why you're using Pettersson as a comparison here.
@@alexwinter3272 lol, I'm on the internet talking to a random person with obviously very low intelligence. If Petterson who's obviously not worth 11.6 and he got 11.6, then obviously Reihart can easily get more than him. Get it? or do you need a more detailed explanation for that low iq of yours?
8-9mil
10 mil ?? Hes a 11mil easy !! Enjoy
He couldn’t even sniff Nylander’s jock straps. In all seriousness tho the most I’d give him is 10. I thought he was quiet against Edmonton
..lol, I'd much rather have Sam and his style of play
He’s a 30 goal guy bout to be paid like a 50 goal guy. Yikes
no f*ing way
Not a chance in hell
No
No