@@BenBNC So what I would say is that the main advantage of bentonite (even more so than the cost savings) is logistics. It’s easy to store, a little bit goes a long ways, and it is an extremely effective priming agent. Mortar mix and/or cement powder can be a real challenge to store on the pump (especially in our damp climate), as well challenge to inventory at the yard (we would burn through an entire pallet of it in a week), and for us it honestly just doesn’t prime the lines as well bentonite does. A small 5 lbs pail of bentonite on the pump and I’m set for an entire week or two. Easy to store, easy to use, and effective. What I will say is that for fine finished residential or architectural concrete, it is nice not having to worry as much about potential contamination in the concrete. That being said, on many of those jobs our guys won’t even allow mortar or cement powder to be primed directly into the pour as it can cause irregularities in the finishing process as well as discolouration to the concrete. In summary: I’ll be sticking to my bentonite for 90% of our work. This was a great question! 👍👍👍
A good job done you went the extra mile regarding no spillage nice job to pump away from the city without the noise and fumes your grout was good but something I always did on my 1st load I used to get the mixer driver to spin the drum and mix the mud up or you risk getting a load of stone and possibly plugging as the Mud seems to separate on route to you the stone will be rattling a nice video.
@@stormingnorman7200 That’s great advice as well. I trimmed most of it from the final edit, but getting mud through that first hose off the hopper was a BATTLE on this day.
@@Will-ll4gv We had a really good time with Jeff up here. I’m heading down to Texas mid-October to checkout how they do things there. Should make for some great videos!
@@colemenjacquemart8897 Yes sir. Some might actually say that is the bread ‘N butter of our operation. Not nearly as “showy” as the big commercial pours, but pays the bills nonetheless
We use grout like this all the time in the northwest, do it a little different, but we find if the grout is thinker, use more of the cement from the bag or if you’re out use slick pack to make it thinker and it makes it go even easier, especially downhill
Very good job but I saw you straining them giant forearms pouring that slurry in the hose haha. Yall make me really love my liquid primer! 😂 my Putz won’t suck back that far on flat ground. It will on a hill and I have the little dewalt version of that compressor for helping the sponge ball back to the hopper. Dewalt won’t do much at all trying to blow out. Maybe two hoses if I’m lucky. I was not impressed with dewalt! Couldn’t find a Milwaukee or that’s what I’d have. Plus I had to buy a 9ah battery ($279)I think because the first one I bought was a 6ah ($239)and wouldn’t work very long. Anyways good job dude!
@@chriscalhoun.concretepumping We’ve been really happy with this little Milwaukee. We’ve blown out up to 300 feet of 3” line with it (although not quickly by any means). I’m convinced that the Putz doesn’t pull the ball back with as much gusto as a Schwing. I routinely see Jeff’s little SP500 haul a wadded up paper sack back with through 200’ of system no problemo.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 I have to agree. I think Jeff’s pump does way better than mine at reversing a ball. Mine is fairly new, 2020 model with about 500 hours. I’m still on original wear parts though. I’m changing those out at the end of this month. Dreading that.
absolutely killed it again brother! , always the man with a plan, that prime job was gorgeous, she didnt even hiccup eh? At my work we use concrete powder, usually never plugs but id also say my average job only requires 4-5 hoses. looked good and proffesional in front of a boujie builder so nice man,
@@victariondrownedmemory9886 Appreciate that brother. Gotta give Jeff over at Muddy Feet due credit for the smooth prime-out. If you haven’t check out his most recent video, he came all the way up from Texas to school us in the art of the mortar-mix prime!!! th-cam.com/video/5kok-kvUx6o/w-d-xo.htmlsi=AQu5SxLaJxW3UOcB
Hey Scott you got some badass finishers that's a pretty job and a pretty area I know the environmental side of things stressed you out there on the job because I keep everything clean but that was a pretty nice finish there is that a better finished in broom finish
@@robertaustin-y7j Thanks buddy! They most definitely do turn out some great work! I think the sponge float finish is a couple steps above broom finish. I will say that it can look a little “aggressive” when freshly poured, but after a couple of years the texture wears down a bit and it actually gets better with age. I’m still a big fan of the hand trowel finish, but for clients looking for something with a little more bite to it, the sponge-float is a very popular option.
@@joshuahill6153 She’s a 2004. You sir are correct. Identical to the Isuzu branded units sold in the US market. This one has a full Isuzu powertrain, but I’ve also seen them with CAT engine/Fuller transmission powertrain as well. Aside from the dashboard electronics, she’s been a super reliable unit for us. My favourite thing with this truck: it turns on a DIME!!!
@@malcolmrex so for 3” and smaller we use 25 footers, 3.5” and lager we use twenties. Aside from when priming out, we rarely see plugging mid-hose, it’s most always either at the reducer, or at the coupling/junction between hoses. Usually when we see plugging mid-pour halfway through a hose, it’s either because the hose is damaged internally, or more often, because the mix just ain’t right.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 Thanks Scott. Given that you seldom plug mid-hose, have you tried 50’ hoses with the 2”? It seems so tempting to clamp up 2 or 3 hoses and call it a day. Is it just a giant hassle when you do end up plugging in a 50’?
@@steverodriguez4871 We were mixing it too dry. Wouldn’t get more the 150’ before turning into a ball of sand. I’m still in shock that it did not segregate with how wet Jeff mixed that stuff up in our colab video. This video here was a few days following that one and I followed suit with the sloppy wet grout. Worked a charm!
@@canadianconcretepumper1979just my opinion, but I feel like the wet mortar allows for more moisture loss as its going through the line on the prime out.
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whats more advantageous, putting prime in the pour, or saving money with bentonite
@@BenBNC So what I would say is that the main advantage of bentonite (even more so than the cost savings) is logistics. It’s easy to store, a little bit goes a long ways, and it is an extremely effective priming agent. Mortar mix and/or cement powder can be a real challenge to store on the pump (especially in our damp climate), as well challenge to inventory at the yard (we would burn through an entire pallet of it in a week), and for us it honestly just doesn’t prime the lines as well bentonite does. A small 5 lbs pail of bentonite on the pump and I’m set for an entire week or two. Easy to store, easy to use, and effective.
What I will say is that for fine finished residential or architectural concrete, it is nice not having to worry as much about potential contamination in the concrete. That being said, on many of those jobs our guys won’t even allow mortar or cement powder to be primed directly into the pour as it can cause irregularities in the finishing process as well as discolouration to the concrete.
In summary: I’ll be sticking to my bentonite for 90% of our work.
This was a great question! 👍👍👍
A good job done you went the extra mile regarding no spillage nice job to pump away from the city without the noise and fumes your grout was good but something I always did on my 1st load I used to get the mixer driver to spin the drum and mix the mud up or you risk getting a load of stone and possibly plugging as the Mud seems to separate on route to you the stone will be rattling a nice video.
@@stormingnorman7200 That’s great advice as well. I trimmed most of it from the final edit, but getting mud through that first hose off the hopper was a BATTLE on this day.
Your guys are getting a lot of beautiful sunny days looks like, great video with that Texas guy👍
@@Will-ll4gv it cooled down a few degrees last week, which made for prime concrete weather 👌👌👌
@@Will-ll4gv We had a really good time with Jeff up here. I’m heading down to Texas mid-October to checkout how they do things there. Should make for some great videos!
Hey Scott I never knew you guys were a concrete contractor too!? That’s pretty cool! Another good video to watch while waiting on my concrete!
@@colemenjacquemart8897 Yes sir. Some might actually say that is the bread ‘N butter of our operation. Not nearly as “showy” as the big commercial pours, but pays the bills nonetheless
We use grout like this all the time in the northwest, do it a little different, but we find if the grout is thinker, use more of the cement from the bag or if you’re out use slick pack to make it thinker and it makes it go even easier, especially downhill
@@taylordowney8924 Do you guys see decent results with the Slick-Prime? I cannot for the life of me get that stuff to work.
Very good job but I saw you straining them giant forearms pouring that slurry in the hose haha. Yall make me really love my liquid primer! 😂 my Putz won’t suck back that far on flat ground. It will on a hill and I have the little dewalt version of that compressor for helping the sponge ball back to the hopper. Dewalt won’t do much at all trying to blow out. Maybe two hoses if I’m lucky. I was not impressed with dewalt! Couldn’t find a Milwaukee or that’s what I’d have. Plus I had to buy a 9ah battery ($279)I think because the first one I bought was a 6ah ($239)and wouldn’t work very long. Anyways good job dude!
@@chriscalhoun.concretepumping We’ve been really happy with this little Milwaukee. We’ve blown out up to 300 feet of 3” line with it (although not quickly by any means). I’m convinced that the Putz doesn’t pull the ball back with as much gusto as a Schwing. I routinely see Jeff’s little SP500 haul a wadded up paper sack back with through 200’ of system no problemo.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 I have to agree. I think Jeff’s pump does way better than mine at reversing a ball. Mine is fairly new, 2020 model with about 500 hours. I’m still on original wear parts though. I’m changing those out at the end of this month. Dreading that.
absolutely killed it again brother! , always the man with a plan, that prime job was gorgeous, she didnt even hiccup eh? At my work we use concrete powder, usually never plugs but id also say my average job only requires 4-5 hoses. looked good and proffesional in front of a boujie builder so nice man,
@@victariondrownedmemory9886 Appreciate that brother. Gotta give Jeff over at Muddy Feet due credit for the smooth prime-out. If you haven’t check out his most recent video, he came all the way up from Texas to school us in the art of the mortar-mix prime!!!
th-cam.com/video/5kok-kvUx6o/w-d-xo.htmlsi=AQu5SxLaJxW3UOcB
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 thank you for the link, hyped too watch this pal !
I find it to be quicker and easier to carry small cone put it in the hose and pour your prime mix works perfect
@@steverodriguez4871 most definitely agree. Solid advice 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Hey Scott you got some badass finishers that's a pretty job and a pretty area I know the environmental side of things stressed you out there on the job because I keep everything clean but that was a pretty nice finish there is that a better finished in broom finish
@@robertaustin-y7j Thanks buddy! They most definitely do turn out some great work!
I think the sponge float finish is a couple steps above broom finish. I will say that it can look a little “aggressive” when freshly poured, but after a couple of years the texture wears down a bit and it actually gets better with age.
I’m still a big fan of the hand trowel finish, but for clients looking for something with a little more bite to it, the sponge-float is a very popular option.
How old is your GMC. Isuzus are identical without the GMC badge. 2000s-2010s.
@@joshuahill6153 She’s a 2004. You sir are correct. Identical to the Isuzu branded units sold in the US market. This one has a full Isuzu powertrain, but I’ve also seen them with CAT engine/Fuller transmission powertrain as well. Aside from the dashboard electronics, she’s been a super reliable unit for us. My favourite thing with this truck: it turns on a DIME!!!
How long are the hoses your using? Does it plug in the middle often?
@@malcolmrex so for 3” and smaller we use 25 footers, 3.5” and lager we use twenties. Aside from when priming out, we rarely see plugging mid-hose, it’s most always either at the reducer, or at the coupling/junction between hoses. Usually when we see plugging mid-pour halfway through a hose, it’s either because the hose is damaged internally, or more often, because the mix just ain’t right.
@@malcolmrex great question by the way 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 Thanks Scott.
Given that you seldom plug mid-hose, have you tried 50’ hoses with the 2”? It seems so tempting to clamp up 2 or 3 hoses and call it a day.
Is it just a giant hassle when you do end up plugging in a 50’?
I’m just wondering how you guys did it before Jeff showed you? This is also how I do it
@@steverodriguez4871 We were mixing it too dry. Wouldn’t get more the 150’ before turning into a ball of sand. I’m still in shock that it did not segregate with how wet Jeff mixed that stuff up in our colab video. This video here was a few days following that one and I followed suit with the sloppy wet grout. Worked a charm!
@@canadianconcretepumper1979just my opinion, but I feel like the wet mortar allows for more moisture loss as its going through the line on the prime out.
Crash and burn. Ouch 😂
@@dannpriebe Hey, there’s always next year!!! 😁😁😁