Canes Come up Short Again, Could Look Quite Different Next Season

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  • Carolina was a favorite for the Cup this year, but bowed out against the Rangers for the second time in three seasons.
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  • @brianvanwyk6817
    @brianvanwyk6817 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +290

    No cup since 2006? Cry me a river says most of the fan bases lol

    • @waryaking
      @waryaking 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      i feel bad for american sports. In european sports there is smaller cups and league titles you can win like soccer

    • @kevinbrown7326
      @kevinbrown7326 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was a shortened season as well because of '05 Lock-Out...

    • @brandonhaidon6705
      @brandonhaidon6705 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

      There was no 2004-2005 season, there was a full 2005-2006 season

    • @griffinm8977
      @griffinm8977 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@kevinbrown7326 it was a full season. 04-05 was the lockout year.

    • @jonathanlacefield5066
      @jonathanlacefield5066 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      As a San Jose sharks fan… yeaaaaaa 😂

  • @williamford9564
    @williamford9564 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Canes attendance: What really started the turnaround was the team beating the defending Stanley Cup champions, the Capitals, in a thrilling seven game series in the 2019 playoffs. They then swept the Islanders before losing to the heavily favored Bruins in the conference final. That was then the fans really began believing the team had turned itself around.

  • @lankancheetah
    @lankancheetah 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +135

    Its simple. The Hurricanes just need a rookie goalie who performs average in the regular season then becomes George Vezina himself in the playoffs.

    • @nazcarcup
      @nazcarcup 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Kochetkov

    • @rangers199487
      @rangers199487 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You mean another Ken Dryden?

    • @slamdunkgator915
      @slamdunkgator915 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      To think that they could still have Alex Nedeljkovic, but they stupidly traded him away in favor of relying on washed up goaltenders that are in the twilight of their careers. I would expect them to get rid of Andersen and I don't know enough about Kochetkov to say whether he's a good goalie or not.

    • @lankancheetah
      @lankancheetah 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      @@rangers199487 em Cam Ward is a more recent and pertinent example, no? Lol

    • @josephhead834
      @josephhead834 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Agree. Goalie Anderson needs to go. Your core is really good so not a lot of changes. Jo8n all the other teams that haven’t won a cup in years

  • @HankingMySchrader
    @HankingMySchrader 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +181

    “What’s interesting is from the year 2018 all the way up to 2018 the canes didn’t make the playoffs.”

    • @vance-ak
      @vance-ak 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      That's all you got from video? 😅

    • @Indybone
      @Indybone 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      It was a tough time for Canes fans

    • @geneperry3411
      @geneperry3411 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      2008-2018/19

    • @mercywilliams2698
      @mercywilliams2698 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The coaching in the years before Canes made the playoffs was dismal..when Rod was the patient assistant. What a difference when he came on board as Head Coach!
      Justin Williams did a nice final couple seasons there..and maybe his late game heroics in his career..the successor to that uniqueness still to come for this team.
      Fans have been treated to a lot of fun seasons to watch since. Certain the management will continue to improve on things. They have alluded to this. 🥅🏒🎯🌟✅

    • @B-Bets
      @B-Bets 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      It made me replay the start, wasn't sure I heard that right. I'm sure he meant 2008 to 2018

  • @theaverageDon
    @theaverageDon 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    Yeah that third period last night by Carolina was almost as embarrassing as the Predators giving up a 3-1 lead to Vancouver 😑

    • @DigitalLogos
      @DigitalLogos 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Idk wtf happened there. It's like a different team came out in the third

  • @Carloc756
    @Carloc756 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    That kk contract isn’t aging well

    • @Benjamin-
      @Benjamin- 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      he's a BUST at this point. not deserving to play in the NHL

    • @nazcarcup
      @nazcarcup 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      I got blocked by Canes fans for saying it was an awful contract

    • @scooterthefrog
      @scooterthefrog 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@Benjamin- if only his drafting team had been trying to sign him to a two million dollar bridge deal before someone gave him a six million dollar golden gun deal. It might have been a hint to the potential danger 😅

    • @TheCrazyCanuck420
      @TheCrazyCanuck420 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Montreal's revenge for Aho 😂

  • @ultimate8550
    @ultimate8550 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    In my opinion, we can go 1 of 2 routes in the rebuild:
    1. Go all in on high end offensive talent, and skimp on the goalie - the idea behind this approach is that you might not get great goaltending or defensive effort, but your high end talent will get you so many goals it won't even matter. Colorado or Edmonton style.
    2. Stick with the current system, where we have a bunch of players that are jack of all trades but master of none. However, if we stick with this system we ABSOLUTELY need high end goaltending because we will not be scoring enough goals to outpace mediocre goaltending. And we will need those crucial saves to keep us in games, especially during the playoffs.

    • @MisterVercetti
      @MisterVercetti 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Colorado's not really a good example, since they're a bit more well-rounded than full-on offense. I'd say the best analogues are Edmonton and Toronto, and just ask either of those teams how well the "all-in on offense" strategy has worked for them.

    • @whlewis9164
      @whlewis9164 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You think Brind’amour is gonna do option 1. Seems… unlikely.

    • @ultimate8550
      @ultimate8550 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@whlewis9164 No I don't think he will, I am just saying I think those are the only options. Option 2 is definitely easier for him to stomach since it basically doesn't entail changing much, except getting an elite goaltender

    • @ultimate8550
      @ultimate8550 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MisterVercetti It certainly hasn't worked out for Toronto, but I attribute that more to a culture issue and the pressure of being in that spotlight. Edmonton at the very least does still make fairly deep runs into the playoffs, so in principle it can work potentially.

    • @lankancheetah
      @lankancheetah 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Whatever option also has to fit within their cost structure. Hurricanes don’t like to spend to the cap as we can see.

  • @FrostbiteRep
    @FrostbiteRep 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    Good thing they got a good laugh with that KK offer sheet, right?

    • @lankancheetah
      @lankancheetah 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      They did Montreal a favor with that one finally.

  • @Westcott72
    @Westcott72 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    They were so close, but close doesn't cut it. On paper they should probably should have been winners, but I think you're right that the special teams just didn't produce.

    • @jkliao6486
      @jkliao6486 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      When you are so close for so many times, it's probably a sign of not being close at all.

  • @arn7992
    @arn7992 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    It's amazing how quickly you churn out videos! Keep up the awesome work!!

    • @geneperry3411
      @geneperry3411 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This one was too quick. He got some key information wrong...lol

  • @oldhab7890
    @oldhab7890 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Running it back makes sense - focus on getting spare parts to help get them over the top.
    Buying out KK makes sense.

  • @quinnbailey7340
    @quinnbailey7340 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Shannon, absolutely love your work. Been watching you for years. Thanks! Keep it going!

  • @roddywhite3601
    @roddywhite3601 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    New to your channel these playoffs. I just want to say your content is very well put together and presented. Thank you for the hard work!

  • @-aste8445
    @-aste8445 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +66

    Both Rangers and Hurricanes scored the same amount of goals in the series. This scoring thing is overblown in many ways atleast for this year.

    • @SimRacerSteve82
      @SimRacerSteve82 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      Was just going to say this. Goal scoring wasn't the issue in the way it has been in the past. In the past they just would stop scoring all together. This year was the PP and the goaltending. I tend not to fuss about goaltending, but Freddy literally kept falling on his ass. 4 goals, and nearly 5, were caused by him losing his footing or his post.
      If the Canes score just 4 more PP goals, which would have made them 5-21(still less than their reg season %) OR Freddy stops those 4 goals, we likely win the series in 5 or 6 in the same manner the Rangers won.

    • @grimmWednesday
      @grimmWednesday 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I agree - especially about Freddy being off-he looked clumsy, ungraceful. I was surprised they didn’t start Kootch again after the overtime loss. Special teams just collapsed. They reset the PK eventually, but I spent much of the series terrified we’d be given a power play and give up another shorty.

    • @FalloutUrMum
      @FalloutUrMum 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Kochetkov should've gotten the start in the last 2 Islanders games, that's when Andersen was starting to slow down and it was apparent he needed rest. Andersen is great, but he needs his rest

    • @williamford9564
      @williamford9564 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@grimmWednesday Maybe he never fully recovered from the injury???

    • @HDreamer
      @HDreamer 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's kinda weird, they weren't outscored, they didn't really get goalied either, Shesterkin did allow 3+ in most games making just enough saves to allow the Rangers to be the team to add that important 4th goal.

  • @jfayiii
    @jfayiii 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Excellent analysis Shannon.

  • @TheMe9595
    @TheMe9595 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Another thing with Carolina is that a lot of their top end guys are all early 20s (although Aho is 26). They have a young team still despite seemingly being at the top of the league for a while now.

    • @thejoulesthief6841
      @thejoulesthief6841 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @ScottStenlund tbf, Brent Burns is nearly 40 and Jordan Staal is 35.

    • @thejoulesthief6841
      @thejoulesthief6841 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You have a young core sure, but half your team (14 skaters) isn't signed (RFA, UFA)

    • @FalloutUrMum
      @FalloutUrMum 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​​@ScottStenlund the defensemen are all around 30 with Burns at 40, Raanta and Andersen aren't young, and few old veterans on the forwards that skew the age. There are A LOT of young forwards on the Hurricanes. And Kochetkov is the future goalie, he's 22

    • @goldfingershat
      @goldfingershat 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @ScottStenlund he gave context saying the core was young and you immediately went and ignored that 😂😂😂
      Then you doubled down, wow

    • @goldfingershat
      @goldfingershat 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ScottStenlund Yap yap yap write an essay why don't ya

  • @adamlong800
    @adamlong800 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Been canes fan since they came to Greensboro my home town I’m just glad they are competitive again and still in North Cak

  • @jqight740
    @jqight740 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    11:05 that is a challenge to make the change to get over the top after going to the playoffs consistently for not just the NHL but NBA and NFL and MLB. This is where the owner relies on the GM and president of operations to make the right call.

  • @Bowman1999
    @Bowman1999 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Lots of moving parts for the Canes this offseason. I think they will give Kotkaniemi another year before they would buy him out.

    • @choppergunner8650
      @choppergunner8650 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Kotkaniemi sent to Florida for a bag of chips and a 2027 7th rounder

    • @-Adam.Z
      @-Adam.Z 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I was on the “let’s be patient with him” bandwagon up until this year’s playoff performance. My patience is gone. He’s not a bad player, but he’s really bad from a cost to value ratio perspective. If he was making 850k-1m per season then keep him, but for what he’s making there should be more progress than what he displayed this season/playoffs.

    • @adamlong800
      @adamlong800 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nah like drury to get more reps and get a true top 6 center help unlock those winger’s offense with out being with Aho

    • @wild_insomnia
      @wild_insomnia 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      his time in Raleigh is over.Criminally overrated player.

    • @scottydoesntknow24
      @scottydoesntknow24 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@wild_insomnia just glad we didnt waste a 2nd overall on him lol Money can be made back.....the habs will NEVER get that 2nd overall pick back

  • @bsfm6990
    @bsfm6990 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    First time in a while going all in, with all the UFA is going to be hard for them especially with the rod rumors

  • @gtn1658
    @gtn1658 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love this type of video. Especially as a hurricanes fan! Thank you for making this!

  • @pauladeen5870
    @pauladeen5870 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    The KK deal really seems like something they didn’t think about besides giving Montreal the finger.

    • @mattparise4463
      @mattparise4463 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It was always a huge gamble with overpaying now for a potential return halfway through his contract. He has streaks where he is excellent, putting up a ton of points and solid defensively, then disappears for half a season. If he plays more consistently well then his contract will be a steal, if he continues on his current pace then yeah, the contract will continue to be terrible.

    • @Garbox80
      @Garbox80 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The KK situation is weird. He was a stud with Montreal in playoffs (granted, only in games where Luke Richardson(?) was coaching). He is stilla couple of years from where his prime was thought to begin, and the beginning of this season looked promising. Maybe he'll grow to that solid #2 C spot. But might need a different style of play to succeed (somewhere else or under a new coach in CAR).

    • @maxfish4270
      @maxfish4270 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      KK is perhaps $1m overpaid and has noather year probably to deliver.

  • @vipeholmskolan6052
    @vipeholmskolan6052 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The series against the Rangers could have gone either way for the Canes. It just didn't go their way.

    • @codywoodell1591
      @codywoodell1591 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And the same way with the Florida series. You can also throw in both the 2020 Boston series and 2021 Tampa series where the canes had a 2 goal lead in the 3rd in Game 4 which would’ve tied the series at 2-2 in both series they blew that lead in game 4. The Tampa series was 1 goal games for games 1 and 2

  • @Vladiator01
    @Vladiator01 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    canes have to find a way to keep Guentzel dude is a goal scorer

  • @bearwooden660
    @bearwooden660 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Do you think Rod will be back? I think he is one of the best system coaches, but I think his players get tired because of the high octane system. Kind of like Tortorella, his players were sooo broken down after blocking all these shots that by the time they get to 2nd or 3rd round they are all playing through injuries.

  • @mattmurdock7444
    @mattmurdock7444 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    There went to semifinals in ‘09

  • @perwarmell5741
    @perwarmell5741 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I think Marner would fit in Carolina aqually.

  • @MisterVercetti
    @MisterVercetti 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    With that cap crunch and all those free agents coming up (mostly of the U variety), it goes without saying that things are about to take a hard turn for the worse in Raleigh. This was probably the Canes' last chance for a Cup for quite some time. As a Columbus fan whose team was in quite a similar predicament five years ago, I feel their pain.

  • @gordonmacdowell8117
    @gordonmacdowell8117 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The Hurricanes are a well built and well coached team, with huge depth, but without enough game breakers to put them over the top when they need someone to step up compared to the teams they meet after the first round of the playoffs. That and the spent the season as the only NHL team without an AHL farm team, which can impact your prospects, both in terms of development and callup transition.
    This season they have a ton of bodies to either resign and/or replace, including their head coach. Talk about the owner low balling Brind'Amour, despite what the GM wanted to do, will have a lot of teams lining up to talk to him if he's available. Andersen has been good, but getting old and gets injured a lot. The decisions they make in the offseason, starting with their coaching situation, will likely be the most important offseason in a long time for this franchise.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    mostly keep together, could use one or two more big scorers / puck movers?

  • @jimwest7107
    @jimwest7107 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Bookies always have the Canes at the top but never look good enough.

    • @amkirby10
      @amkirby10 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Vegas ADORES Carolina for some reason.

    • @FalloutUrMum
      @FalloutUrMum 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@amkirby10 Because Carolina is consistently one of the best teams

    • @BeardedBucc
      @BeardedBucc 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I know... I think it's a curse now. You have the President's Trophy Curse and the Bookies Curse

  • @andrewtormanen
    @andrewtormanen 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think the rangers are just having a special season. They won the presidents trophy and got the bounce against Carolina. Only one team can win it all each year, and the best you can hope for is a shot. I would be happy with all the same forwards and swapping pesce/skjei for the rookies

  • @tonym2513
    @tonym2513 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Any centers Detroit can poach? Defensemen?

  • @jrwhynot3631
    @jrwhynot3631 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Things are quiet in Raleigh that’s for sure. Small notes: Rod should’ve used his time out after Kreider goal 1. Freddie wasn’t the problem, he had a few moments but the game 6 collapse absolutely wasn’t him. Large notes: Kuznetsov wasn’t the guy, love him but Guentzel is who this system needs. Guys who have played their own kind of style just don’t really fit short term. Rod should’ve put 86 with 59 more often. Those two had small moments of success the little bit they were together. Grand scheme: Canes play man on fire all year. Playoffs show up and they don’t have that next gear. There’s no Kreider, there’s no guy that takes it and makes it his game. Change can be good, if anyone will make it good is the canes. gonna be weird to see some of these guys leave.

    • @Red790
      @Red790 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Both of the 1st 2 goals Freddy gave up were soft, he's definitely a big reason why we lost this series but there are other factors too like the PP

  • @APigthatflys
    @APigthatflys 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    Didn't even mention Seth Jarvis as a pending RFA. The Canes have a lot of work to do this summer, gonna be interesting to see what they look like in October

    • @DefendNC97
      @DefendNC97 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I hope we can keep Jarvy

    • @DefendNC97
      @DefendNC97 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ScottStenlund no doubt, especially when there's 7 new guys on our roster. It's gonna be interesting to see what the new season brings.

    • @JustaComment93
      @JustaComment93 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DefendNC97yeah

    • @JustaComment93
      @JustaComment93 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DefendNC97 so interesting

    • @thomasthomasthomas296
      @thomasthomasthomas296 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ScottStenlundmartinook, teravainen, pesce, skjei, guentzel, chatfield, deangelo, noesen they have a lot of ufa’s

  • @mkultra5752
    @mkultra5752 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    They've had consistently good teams and won a cup with Brind amour quit feeling sorry for this team...feel bad for the minnesotas, columbuses, or vancouver and sabres who have had no cups and more then 3 times as long in the league...thats real sadness

  • @BestDraftClass
    @BestDraftClass 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I heard the AI clip of Rod Brind'Amour saying he wanted to coach the leafs in the post game interview, lol. Lots of cap space to be able to sign goalie Markstrom on a trade at the draft.

  • @ThatEflatGuy
    @ThatEflatGuy 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As a Hurricanes fan, this year’s ending had a very different feeling. I think the abrupt 180 degree turnaround in the elimination game is causing a lot of emotional reactions that don’t make a lot of sense. Also in years past it felt like the team was building toward something, whereas now there’s not a clear answer as to where they can expect improvement to come from…
    Re: Freddie, I think most fans were feeling that he earned the starter’s crease, but he hadn’t proven that he could be an every game starter. Some of the mistakes he made (particularly the falling over) could be attributed to fatigue/health. So it’s really frustrating that a very capable backup in Kochetkov who proved he could serve the team well only got 2 total games in the 2 rounds.
    I have no idea what’s going to happen with next year’s team; I think Necas is the big name that’s most likely to be the odd man out in terms of cap room. Jarvis is probably the one most likely to stay. I think Brady Skjei is a higher priority than Pesce, but I think Pesce is likely to be less expensive due to his unfortunate injury situation and not being as much of a scorer. Teravainen’s fate is anyone’s guess; he’s a huge part of the team identity but is he seen as part of the core going forward? Martinook really should be back; though my guess is the signing will be another Dundon special (unnecessarily drawn out and dramatic).
    And Rod Brind’Amour will be back; he will retire before leaving NC to coach somewhere else. That’s not hyperbole; Raleigh is his home (his wife has strong roots there too) and he doesn’t want to live somewhere else.

    • @LK3185.
      @LK3185. 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The most frustrating part about Freddie is they saw he was struggling and did nothing. Made one change, lost the game but Kochetov should have been put on the ice after with Freddie given up the softies. Can't just trust guys with sloppy play. Playoffs is too important.

  • @jacobmurphy4994
    @jacobmurphy4994 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Id buy out KK. I don’t think he’s worth anything on the trade market, however DW may be able to fleece someone. I would try to re-sign skjei and let pesce and turbo walk and keep Guentzel. Necas you qualify and dangle as trade bait. I don’t want Marner, I think i’d rather sign the guys we’d send for him. Notable UFAs include Stamkos (he probs stays in tampa) and Reinhardt and Montour (also probs stay in Florida) so no one i’d say is worth going for except trying Lindholm again. I’d like to see them trade for a Dmen and move burns down to the 2nd pair or bring chatfield up to the 2nd pair. Idk it’s interesting to see what’s going to happen I do think they need another goalie while still keeping andersen and kochetkov but i do understand i’m stretching things out a bit

  • @NamelessRider
    @NamelessRider 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I believe that we had the talent to have beaten the Rangers but doubtful that we could have gone much farther because of injuries (Pesce), goal tending (Rod's stubborn insistence that Anderson carry the load), an an abysmal power play.
    Don Waddell has his plate full with a redesign of the team for next year. Several players need to be re-signed/extended: Chatfield, Martinook and Skjei for starters. I don't know if Jake Guentzel will re-sign but he would be a part of a potent first line with Aho & Svech. Pesce may not be worth as much as he thinks he is due to injuries but a team friendly extension would make sense. Would love to see us move Anderson if that's possible. I think KK is an enigma. I might give him one more year and see if he can FINALLY develop into a C that we need. A lot of moving parts going into the summer season !

  • @nolanvernon2822
    @nolanvernon2822 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Offseason checklist:
    - Pay Necas (7x7.5m)
    - Extend Guentzel (6x8.5m), let Teravainen walk
    - Probably are only gonna be able to keep one of Skjei vs Pesce, and it's a tough call - I lean towards keeping skjei because of his offensive ability (5x5.5m).
    - Leaves with about 5m to fill out the bottom 6

    • @heathclark318
      @heathclark318 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Better keep that RH d man...

    • @SiLeNtKiLlEr2233
      @SiLeNtKiLlEr2233 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think Jake will need more than that

    • @goldenspatian517
      @goldenspatian517 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Guentzel gets at least 9.5

    • @nolanvernon2822
      @nolanvernon2822 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SiLeNtKiLlEr2233 quite possible, was being a little conservative on that one, but he is turning 30 before next season, which I think limits his contract value a little

    • @FutureZek
      @FutureZek 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      FWIW, on Twitter Pesce's dad sent some tweets last night that heavily implied Brett is gone. Things like, "We'll keep our tradition of XYZ when his new team comes to Raleigh."
      He's since deleted them, but I for one took it as a clear sing he won't re-sign.

  • @dmorimoto-
    @dmorimoto- 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You missed Jarvis an as RFA. That’s guna eat up a lot of the cap space.

  • @lukewoodworth2101
    @lukewoodworth2101 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Every year, it seems like I think to myself "wow they have a great forward group, some solid if not great dman," and they fall short. Every time. Better success though than that toronto team I cheer for, but both teams fall short of their expectations

    • @FalloutUrMum
      @FalloutUrMum 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's better than not being in the playoffs at all

  • @MikeStrup-rq4mn
    @MikeStrup-rq4mn 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent top notch video.

  • @purplebeard1526
    @purplebeard1526 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a fan since they arrived in '97, the RBA has hands down been their most consistently successful era so far. The other good/great seasons were flashes. However, like you pointed out, the playoff exits during his tenure bring about a lot of questions such as roster/players, coaching philosophies, and coaches. And the exits have been tied to special teams, offensive ineptness, and I can't discount injuries at the worst time(Svech, Andersen, Terravinen(sp?), Pesce, Fast...). Puck luck and hot goaltenders can only explain so much for the post season exits, but it curious that the playoff issues/trends only show there...and not really in the regular season. I really wonder if a roster overhaul to upgrade the talent is the best answer. But I think Rod has to look at his systems and playoff related breakdowns and change something, because it's been a consistent answer on the exits.

  • @Irevoltnow
    @Irevoltnow 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think two of the biggest mistakes Canes have made is keeping their goaltender situation as it is for too long and signing Kotkaniemi. Every year they either get injuries or bad performance or both from their goalies. And Kotkaniemi's cap hit has made it hard to get good 2nd line center every year. They fall to same pit holes every year. I hope they make drastic changes or they might loose their opportunity to Stanley cup.

  • @michaelb4590
    @michaelb4590 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You missed a big one Seth Jarvis is an RFA. That could get really interesting of someone had the balls to offer sheet him

  • @dack400
    @dack400 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I think Carolina can keep it pretty much the same, they do seem to dry up in scoring in playoffs for a couple games, which is what puts thm out of series’, but they are a really good team that could get it done. Playoffs comes down to better goalies most of time, fair or unfairly, if teams are close on paper whoever has the better goalie usually comes out on top in the playoffs.

  • @wareqo9768
    @wareqo9768 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    some changes definately need to take place, the system works as shown by the playoff appearances. The team on the ice can be better so well see how the off season changes things

  • @Sharks256
    @Sharks256 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Carolina is looking like my Sharks when they were successful. They need to go all in on goaltending and shore up the PK. Scoring isn't the issue, but they need to make sure not to sacrifice scoring to shore up other areas. The only thing i can say for sure, is Freddy won't win the cup for them.

  • @name-vi6fs
    @name-vi6fs 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I usually root for the Canes in the east. Last nights game was brutal. Four goals in the third, oof.

  • @retflo2583
    @retflo2583 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Those last 3 goals are not on Andersen

    • @robonick37
      @robonick37 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That 2nd goal of the game absolutely was, and I think that's what made the momentum shift. Andersen definitely should not get 100% of the blame, but I think that mistake was huge

    • @Red790
      @Red790 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The fist 2 absolutely were, without those going in we very likely win that game

  • @radicalindependent
    @radicalindependent 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think if Orlov doesn't cough up the puck, gifting NYR their first goal we'd be looking at a 7th game at least. NYR most likely win, but that would have increased the pressure none the less.

  • @Lukedolan33
    @Lukedolan33 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The Phoenix Coyote have won a conference finals game more recently than the Carolina Hurricanes.

    • @maxfish4270
      @maxfish4270 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Not a bad chirp except Coyotes had by my count 26 total playoff wins all their seasons and Rod's Canes are already at 38.

    • @Lukedolan33
      @Lukedolan33 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@maxfish4270 they’ve still objectively went further in one playoff than any playoff run than these Canes have went on, and the Coyotes do not exist anymore.

    • @maxfish4270
      @maxfish4270 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Lukedolan33 Congratulations! You are the 2024 winner of the Ignatius Jacques Reilly Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Being Dull.

    • @Hal-yc9jd
      @Hal-yc9jd 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I get what you’re saying and no you aren’t wrong if you only take into account the hurricanes from 2011-2024. It’s just that the Coyotes won a single game in the conference finals of 2012. Wouldn’t make a difference

  • @troycorvino8566
    @troycorvino8566 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    the canes need to do everything they can to bring guentzel back

  • @JPMadden
    @JPMadden 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I wasn't following hockey during the 9 years (2009-10 to 2017-18) that the Hurricanes missed the playoffs. I would have assumed they were terrible for years while undergoing a full rebuild, but they were mostly mediocre.

  • @williamford9564
    @williamford9564 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    14:00: And sometimes teams get goalied. Shesterkin was unreal in games 2 and 3 and he made a couple of saves last night in the third period to keep the Canes from taking a 3 goal lead.

  • @rafaeluryayev7174
    @rafaeluryayev7174 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Regular season merchants.

  • @samuelwoods7832
    @samuelwoods7832 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Anderson had 13 wins and 2 loses

  • @johnminogue7360
    @johnminogue7360 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent analysis. I believe that Andersen will be moved as it will be difficult for him to weather any poor play in future playoff series. Maybe he starts the 24-25 season in Carolina but he may not be on the roster after the trade deadline. The absence of a QB for the powerplay is a gap that was exposed in the playoffs.

  • @elosogonzalez8739
    @elosogonzalez8739 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    With the exception of a hand full of teams, the NHL is extremely even and competitive more so than any other sport. It boggles my mind that with the league being so equal, there is so much turnover. It would be different if only one or two teams winning every year, I could see the desperation. I know fans want to see a winner; Tell me A COYOTES FAN! Fans would love to have a team let alone a playoff team. There can only one Stanley Cup Champion! As long as the same team doesn't win year over year, there is no need for desperate moves.

  • @daledemanchuk7920
    @daledemanchuk7920 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    perhaps having too many euros on the team doesn't cut it during playoff hockey...

  • @eerokinos6213
    @eerokinos6213 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I like Brind'Amour but the system just does not work in a best-of-seven series against teams that have fantastic goaltending and capability to opportunistic turnovers. Something's got to give.

  • @nanceusmc
    @nanceusmc 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think we absolutely have to bring back Martinook, Noesen, Chatfield, Drury and Necas... Jarvis is also in line to get paid... Raanta, as loved as he is, is gone... Deangelo is gone as well... I'd like to say one of Skjei or Pesce are back, and the other likely gone... But that itself is a bit of a coin flip, as it's just as possible both are gone... Guentzel is the multi-million dollar question.. I believe every effort should be made to sign him, as the Aho-Guentzel-Jarvis line was amazing (why did we not see it in the playoffs?!?!?)... I believe to offset cap limitations, we will at least see Morrow, and possibly Nadeau... Nikishin in '25 when his KHL contract expires... it will likely be a different looking Canes team next year, but that's maybe not all that bad of a thing...

  • @jeffa.7618
    @jeffa.7618 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Massive off-season coming up for Carolina. Seems like a retool could be happening... I expect them to remain a playoff team, but with some big changes that could cause them to regress slightly.

  • @mikekdawgman1
    @mikekdawgman1 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It’s a pretty simple problem with Carolina. During the regular season, they play playoff level hockey while other teams play regular season hockey. Once the playoffs hit, the other teams turn it up a level and play playoff hockey and Carolina does not have an extra level so they are exposed as a pretty average maybe slight above average playoff team with mediocre numbers.
    The only con of Brindamours style of coaching.

    • @colatrl.damg3167
      @colatrl.damg3167 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      dude...that's almost word for word what I've written a few times. You're either a bot or very wise. We should be hockey friends. Or you need to stop copying my comments. Not sure...

  • @LK3185.
    @LK3185. 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would prioritize signing Guentezel because I think he did help majorly and I'm not sure they will be able to swing a move for a similar player next year. I would also try to sign Chatfield over any of the Dman they have due, Buyout KK and try to trade Freddie.. This team I feel, I'm biased but I feel with better goaltending, they are in the Cup finals this year but just being honest about it, Freddie was not good enough in the playoffs and alot of it was mechanics. Save percentage tells a story but a good goalie stops way more of those saves he didn't make. At least two softies in the last game for example. I think the stress is that if they do try to get another year out of Anderson, it will actually get worse and the team will have less confidence.. Rod is a good coach but I think there's a bit of a danger of losing some players if you don't retool.

  • @Robert-ki7bz
    @Robert-ki7bz 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Seems like they are only 1 Defenseman and 1 Forward away really. Of course, they need to have good goaltending to go with that.

  • @juholaitakari1305
    @juholaitakari1305 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Guentzel, Skjei and Pesce all have said they wish to re-sign with the Canes.

  • @BlacqueJacqueShellacque_
    @BlacqueJacqueShellacque_ 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Game 5 was the only game that couldn't have gone either way. WAY closer series than you'd think with a 4-2 win. The Canes are an excellent team. So are the Panthers. Rangers better step it up if they want to win the next series.

  • @Tiax776
    @Tiax776 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Why did they get rid of Trocheck?

    • @heathclark318
      @heathclark318 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      because of the KK contract

    • @maxfish4270
      @maxfish4270 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I can't verify however some in Canes subreddit say Trocheck wanted to be a Ranger similar to how Adam Fox wasn't going to play for anyone else.

  • @codywoodell1591
    @codywoodell1591 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really the 2019 Boston series was the only one that wasn’t close.
    The 2020 Boston series was 2-1 Boston lead, and in game 4 the Canes had a 2-0 lead in the 3rd and lost that game in regulation. Then got into penalty trouble in game 5 after they lost all morale. They hold that lead and win game 4 it’s a 2-2 series and who knows what could be different.
    In 2021, Tampa was leading the series 2-1 and in game 4 the canes had a 2 goal lead in the 3rd period and lost the game in regulation. Again they hold on to the lead in that game, it’s a 2-2 series and coming back to Raleigh for game 5 with all the momentum. But this was the start of the coming across fantastic goalies on the top of their games. Also game 1 and 2 of this series were 1 goal extremely low scoring games.
    2022 was just a hard fought series with each team winning home games until game 7 when rangers won. Playing Igor on the top of his game
    2023 they came across Bobrovsky who was on one of the best goalie runs of recent history. And every single game was a 1 goal game. With game 1 going 4OT which is a 50/50 game, same thing with game 2 going to OT. That series just as easily could have gone 4-0 Canes sweep. Also doing this without Svech who was on a tear before his ACL tear
    This season, the canes had the tools, their power play dried up and gave up to many PP opportunities and allowed too many grade A chances to the best team in the league. This year was the chance. Also games 2 and 3 went to 2OT and OT respectively, this series I think should have gone NYR-CAR-CAR-CAR-CAR based on how the games actually were played. Not to mention the fact that the canes had another 2 goal lead in an elimination game and blew it. Had they held that lead and won game 6, they probably win game 7 against a fully mentally defeated rangers team

  • @subienorris
    @subienorris 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This just makes you appreciate what a master Joe sakic is

  • @tommi308
    @tommi308 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    They need better goalies.

    • @TheScotian82
      @TheScotian82 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      'better goalies' dont grow on trees

    • @FalloutUrMum
      @FalloutUrMum 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Kochetkov is getting there, the dude is 22 and got the Hurricanes into the playoffs in his rookie year

    • @williamford9564
      @williamford9564 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That can be said by a lot of teams, including Toronto, Edmonton and maybe Colorado. And even Vasey and the Vezina winner in Winnipeg did not have good playoffs. Meanwhile, the kid in Vancouver is looking like the playoff Vezina. It can be a crapshoot sometimes.

    • @tbcy3zj
      @tbcy3zj 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      A few soft goals by the goaltender in low scoring series is all it takes to lose. Agreed they need better goaltending.

    • @Red790
      @Red790 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      We had a better goalie, he was sitting on the bench

  • @VincentBurke-iv3xj
    @VincentBurke-iv3xj 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Here's what I think they should do, if they can... Try to sign Guentzel (expensive), Martinook (affordable), Noesen (affordable), Teravainen (if under 4 mil per season), Chatfield (4 mil), Pesce or Skjei (which ever one agrees to stay). Trade away Anderson, and the rights to Necas. Find a good backup for Kochetkov. I think Kochetkov could be a very good goalie and making him the number 1 through the season will have him prepared for the playoffs.

  • @johnthiel7422
    @johnthiel7422 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Teravainen is an enigma to me. In my opinion he's the odd man out.

    • @FalloutUrMum
      @FalloutUrMum 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'd take Necas over Terraveinan if it came down to it, he's younger and hasn't hit his ceiling yet

    • @Red790
      @Red790 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Turbo just hasn't been dialed in these playoffs, think it's time to move on from him

    • @ShantyIrishman
      @ShantyIrishman 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Back to Chicago

  • @freckleheckler6311
    @freckleheckler6311 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    0:40 so from 2018 till 2018 they never made the playoffs? I mean that appears to make sense lol

  • @andrewstachowski3375
    @andrewstachowski3375 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Taking a rebuilding team and making them a playoff team" if its so easy shannon tell that to my poor sabres :(

    • @LARGO125
      @LARGO125 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Buffalo... always bucking the trends. You'd think the law of averages would've made them a playoff team by now. Even Edmonton got it done in less time...

    • @andrewstachowski3375
      @andrewstachowski3375 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LARGO125 good thing we have an owner who's strapped with cash(for the no fun league team)

  • @DennieWilliamson
    @DennieWilliamson 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yearly tradition at this point…

    • @FalloutUrMum
      @FalloutUrMum 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      At least the Hurricanes are consistently in the playoffs, unlike most teams

    • @harper-leightonscott4566
      @harper-leightonscott4566 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@FalloutUrMumtoo bad the expectations are a thing

  • @ryans3795
    @ryans3795 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Kotchekov isn't a seasoned goalie yet, but he is a very promising goalie, which continues to get better.

  • @brianhobaugh
    @brianhobaugh 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It would be hard to imagine big changes not happening this offseason. They’ve been considered contenders for years now, and always fall short.

  • @yoholmes273
    @yoholmes273 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hurricanes....you BLEW IT!

  • @ryanmerrett9320
    @ryanmerrett9320 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Marner to Carolina for Deangelo, Pesce, Kotkianiemi and a 2nd

    • @mattmurdock7444
      @mattmurdock7444 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not a Marner fan but maybe he needs a change of scenery. Ok, I agree

    • @Red790
      @Red790 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Tony and Pesce are UFAs

    • @jameshannagan4256
      @jameshannagan4256 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I didn't know you could trade FAs, all kidding aside they're not that far off some of their younger guys need to learn to finish better and they still need another goalie I don't think either of them is the answer.

  • @luvslogistics1725
    @luvslogistics1725 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Kreider Hattie was the greatest Ranger moment since Messier’s guarantee.

  • @user-br7sb3wk4h
    @user-br7sb3wk4h 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Could be a rough offseason

  • @Chiefbiggums12
    @Chiefbiggums12 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This year was so disappointing. I am not sure what we do but we got some bad contracts plus alot of guys needing money. It sucks because some fan favorites are gonna walk. July first will be interesting

    • @WeHateThePatriots
      @WeHateThePatriots 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Jarvis, guentzel and Necas are priorities. Sucks if you lose out on others (I know it's a long list) but maybe a roster shuffle could do this team well

  • @nickelliott1174
    @nickelliott1174 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Blues will be shaking things up and Army isn't afraid to pull the trigger on a big deal, so Carolina and St Louis could match up.

  • @dvon1097
    @dvon1097 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My cup pick is gone. I picked the canes to win in August I really believed in their talent and then they traded for Guentzel and Kuz and I thought it was gonna happen

  • @samsee_ca
    @samsee_ca 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    wasn’t 2021-22 also the season that Carolina went 0-6 on the road during the playoffs? i remember them playing two game 7s that year

    • @williamford9564
      @williamford9564 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was. They beat the Bruins in game seven in round one, but they kept playing with fire in allowing the Rangers to come back to Raleigh for game seven. Then their luck ran out.

  •  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nothing like buying out your grievance offer-sheets, eh?

  • @tzvi3660
    @tzvi3660 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    From 2018 to 2018????? What are you saying???

  • @michaelrudd1927
    @michaelrudd1927 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    TEUVO TO BOSTON!!!!! Anything and everything to do with Boston or Carolina I'm commenting I will manifest this signing. 😂😂

  • @kevinjacksonj1135
    @kevinjacksonj1135 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Go get ullmark. Keep the core. Trade out a couple depth pieces and try again. I would pick up Reinhart if available and if they have enough cap.

  • @nathanmeagher7869
    @nathanmeagher7869 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Call up Trotz and tell him a blank check for Saros.

  • @gTuya11
    @gTuya11 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This comment will probably go overlooked since it was two days out but the carolina alternative jersey with only one flag on it is not a tropical storm warning, its hurricane watch.
    There is another vid of yours (maybe the 100 favorite jerseys vid?) where you make that comment. The black square designates hurricane, one flag is watch, two is warning.
    Source 13:38 : I live in south florida and our annual hurricane preparation pamphlets indicate this - saw it yesterday and thought of you lol
    Cats in 6!

  • @4517onlyglory
    @4517onlyglory 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shorter than last year. Major changes incoming. That third period is certainly the most embarrassing period for a while for canes

  • @alekslee3978
    @alekslee3978 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I don’t think you can call your arena the loudest in the NHL unless you have the record for loudest individual output… and that record is held by bell center in Montreal at 143.6 decibels. I’m glad I researched this or else I would have said the previous team with the record the predators

    • @BeardedBucc
      @BeardedBucc 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's crazy that you researched this but the Guinness World Record for loudest crowd roar at an indoor sporting event was 130 decibels by the Kansas Jayhawks. What's even crazier is when I googled "Bell Center 143.6" I got a bunch of irrelevant results. You would make a great politician!

    • @Hal-yc9jd
      @Hal-yc9jd 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s not. I’m a hurricanes fan and I get tired of them saying that. Honestly it has to be Montreal or MSG. Yes PNC arena loud when it’s full of fans and can absolutely compete. But consistently louder there’s no way

  • @KenThomasDOTus
    @KenThomasDOTus 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You were so close to understanding the 'Canes when you said Dundon is an unconventional owner, but then you backed it down. I think that's because you've been a hockey fan all your life. You were born with an assumption that the goal of every NHL team is winning the cup. It's like gravity. You don't question it. You think that way, and 99.99% of the hockey fans on the planet think that way.
    Dundon doesn't think that way.
    Dundon is a businessman, and he knows the formula for sustainable success with a team in a small, non-traditional hockey market. You have a great marketing department, you put an entertaining product on the ice, and you make the playoffs every year. That's it. That's the formula.
    Keep that up long enough, eventually the stars will align and you'll win the cup, but the cup isn't the point. The cup will be a byproduct of sustained success.
    Remember that this guy wasn't even a hockey fan before he bought the team. He doesn't think in traditional hockey concepts. He doesn't think about windows and boom-and-rebuild cycles. That's why they spread around the talent. That's why they focus on stats. That's why they never bet their future to get a big star now. That's why they focus on their pipeline so much. The whole thing is about sustainable success.
    Year after year I watch pundits and commentators predict what the 'Canes are going to do, and year after year they get it wrong, because they're basing their predictions on the assumption that the team's goal is winning the cup. Attendance is better than it's ever been, ticket prices are rising every year, merch sales are strong, ratings and viewership and media share in the market continues to rise, and the fanbase is as devoted as any in the NHL. Those are the metrics Dundon cares about, and by those standards the team is absolutely killing it.

  • @jasonstroup4123
    @jasonstroup4123 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Aho 26yo
    Svech 24yo
    Kotkaneimi 22
    Drury 24
    Jarvis 22
    Necas 25
    Teravainian is an old guy at 29, and stall pulling 35 bring up the average age.
    People forget that this team missed the playoffs for like 9 years and was forced to play guys before they were ready due to a lack of talent.
    Most guys prime cup contending years are 28-33 years old.
    This is still a very young team despite having won at least 1 series in each of the last 6 seasons.

  • @OlsenMath
    @OlsenMath 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder what they could get for trading Svechnikov.