Bruins Lack of Scoring Depth Leads to Playoff Exit
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2024
- It's the fifth straight season that the Bruins have been out in the first or second round.
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They did their job by knocking Toronto out.
It’s tradition at this point. Not even a Leafs fans but man do I feel bad for the fans of that team.
Swayman did really good all playoffs overall. It was cool hearing the crowd chant his name at the end of game 6 in spite of the loss.
9:50 shoutout to Bob Essensa, the Bruins goalie coach. Turned Thomas, Rask and Ullmark into Vezina winners and Swayman is right on his way there as well
Agree most under credited person in organization.. keep him there and keep him happy - likely best goalie coach in league in terms of statistical results
Best goaltending in the playoffs by far. Thomas had a .933 gaa when they won the cup, a record. Swayman matched him with a worse team in front of him.
@@rodneydecormier1504 honestly, the 2011 bruins squad was one of worst they had in past 13 years ( this past year might be the exception)….. even though the planets aligned for them to win the cup
I did hear though his retirement might be coming soon...
@@HHSGDFootballJPD maybe Tuukka picked up his tricks … fingers crossed he sticks around
As someone who bleeds Black & Gold, my thoughts on this team have been consistent from the start of the season. I didn't think they'd slip back as far as so many were saying, but I did believe they had a ceiling which wouldn't produce a Stanley Cup. I had them finishing in the 2nd or 3rd spot in the Atlantic and I consistently felt this team had one playoff series win in them. I had Panthers in 6. They hit their ceiling.
I'd prefer to be happy over right however.
The important piece to remember is that this was never going to be a Stanley Cup year for Boston. This was a year of retooling the roster, managing a very difficult salary cap situation and introducing a number of rookies to the NHL roster. Along with 109 points and a playoff series win against the Maple Leafs, the Bruins saw amazing growth from players like Beecher, Lohrei, Poitras, and Brazeau. The defensive additions of Peeke and Wotherspoon look very promising. And of course, we all learned that the Bruins have a premier #1 goaltender that can handle playoff pressures in Swayman. There's a lot to be excited about going into 2024-2025 for the B's. And don't forget that the salary cap moves up next year. Say what you want to about ownership and some of the moves by Sweeney over the years...but ownership always spends to the cap and Sweeney, even when he misses, is typically aggressive in the free agency marketplace.
Wow, this post is like someone stole my thoughts! You sir are a genius :0
@@hauntedmilk8540 a very humble thank you
I firmly believe this team is going after Elias Lindholm is free agency.
He's not going to re sign? I hope they can get him.
@@DarthLetalis Vancouver has some tough decisions to make with their pending FAs this offseason. It's certainly possible that Lindholm re-signs here, and I think the team is more likely to give him an offer he'll be willing to accept with his performance in the playoffs so far, but Zadorov, Hronek, and Joshua are also due for substantial raises. Also, if they want to keep Boeser when his contract expires at the end of 24-25, they will have to avoid spending right up to the cap, as the OEL buyout penalty increases by nearly 2.5 million for 25-26.
What I would say is that if you don't see something happen with Mikheyev's contract or Hronek's RFA rights, there's a much higher chance of Lindholm going to market, as those are the two big variables I can see that would impact Vancouver's ability to keep him.
He would be a good pick up. It wasn't outstanding in the regular season, but has proven his worth in the playoffs. I think he raised his value a lot with the way he has played in the playoffs.
You pretty much nailed it. Panthers were just a better team this year. I not disappointed in the B’s play this year. They made the best of what they had. Next year should be better.
Young players did get to play and gained some good experience. That being said 7 to many men on the ice was ridiculous. Monty needs to address that.
It hurts me knowing that we've likely seen the end of the Goalie Hugs. I wasn't hot on Ullmark when we signed him, but he proved me wrong so quickly and I'm happy he did. It really is a shame we likely wont keep him. With the amount of cap space we have there, there is no reason the Bruins can't go out and get a pair of true top-pairing centres and another winger to fill out the top lines again. Names that immediately come to mind (despite needing offer sheets which the Bruins are limited in) are Necas and Jarvis. There's a lot of people talking about Drai and Ullmark being trade pieces, which would be awesome, but that's kinda hard to see happening, lol
In all honesty, I had them as a wildcard team, before the season began. Their ridiculous goaltending tandem helped them to a spectacular start.
Ranger fan here but I’ve got family in Boston so I keep up with their happenings.
Strictly on paper, this BOS team had no business being in the second round. I joke and say they have the shallowest center depth in the NHL.
They work hard, have incredible goaltending and their coaching staff squeezed a ton out of this group.
A dang good team, but they went further than most expected this year. Replacing Bergeron and Krej is a tall task. Let’s see what they can do in the offseason.
The Bruins had a better regular season & playoffs than expected & 7 home playoff games is huge $.
I've heard rumblings that Tyler Bertuzzi wants to come back to Boston next season. He did enjoy playing alongside Pastrnak. Could be helpful with scoring, depending on his price. But getting a #1 center and resigning Swayman are top priorities for Sweeney.
“Lack of scoring depth”
2022-23 seems to be the exception to what has been a broken record the last few years for the B’s
Swayman saved them from utter embarrassment in round 1
I'm old enough (54) to have suffered through a number of far more traumatic playoff losses, as well as enjoyed the breaking of the Canadiens playoff curse in 1988 and a Cup win in 2011, so I'm not upset about this season. I was not optimistic about beating the Panthers, but it was frustrating just how spectacularly inept they made the Bruins look at times, when the Bruins simply could not clear the puck from their zone or enter the offensive zone with possession. Completing a pass in the neutral zone was nearly as challenging. It was as if the Panthers were playing "Dead Puck Era" trap hockey, without the clutching and grabbing. The Bruins had no answers. Only Swayman made the series as close as it was. I'm curious if the Rangers can do better.
Bruins gonna have $ to play with this offseason I’m convinced big things are coming this summer great season Bruins!!
I fuckin hope so. If Montgomery is still coaching I'm not going to watch next year.
@@NatPat-yj2or Making it to round two probably saved his job. I imagine he's taken Swayman out for a few expensive dinners since their season ended. lol
The goaltending has really helped Bruins this season
It's almost like losing your top two centers to retirement in the same year has a negative impact on your offensive depth
Great analysis on this!
The problem is they need a first line center. After Bergeron and Krejchi left last year they literally use their 3rd line center as their 1st line. The owners only go after defense man and goalies. This year they overachieved with what they had. The points they had this year is deceptive cause they lost so many games in overtime.
Personally, I hoping the Bruins sign either Elias Lindholm or Chandler Stephenson (maybe even both) that should help their center depth a bunch assuming Lindholm has a bounce back season
lindholm is gonna get re-signed but Stephenson would totally fit same colors and all
The rat losing again is lovely :)
I think Boston can fix some of this by selling Ullmark, just can't be too picky where they ship him off to. I hear Marner is for sale... 😁
You need centers. Marner is too expensive for what he would produce in Boston.
Unfortunately, Ullmark has a no trade clause with half of the league. And if he was smart and really liked Boston, he would 'be open' to being traded to Tampa (which Tampa wouldn't really consider).
Great video. About the potential firing of Sweeney..... Is it on the table at least?
Don't think so...
1) Bruins have had the highest points % since he took over.
2) Sweeney and Neely (the team President) were teammates for years. I don't think what's happening is catastrophic enough to warrant firing Sweeney.
My insane trade offer is Ullmark+Zacha+First Rounder next year for Hischier. I know NJ probably still wouldn't accept it but I'm going to delude myself into thinking that will happen.
I think you're on the right track by including Zacha. Imo, he's a redundancy on this team, but no one's talking about it. Just not sure New Jersey would want him back. If anything, maybe he could be traded for picks and then use that available salary to sign the guys they need. He's coming off a career year, so there's bound to be interested teams.
A primary objective for Sweeney is that any deal he makes has draft picks coming back. Even if it’s just single pick. It’s time to restock the cupboard. Go B’z!!!!
Shannon Id have to disagree with your opinion on Grzelcyk, he was available the team just chose not to use him I think he’s taken a big step back this year.
Grzelcyk has always been a liability in the D-zone. People like his offensive game but that seemed to have dropped this year. And it really shows when going into a game 7 they ran with 3 inexperienced defensemen over Grzelcyk.
At the beginning of the season, almost everyone was doubting the Bruins would do much more than make the playoffs, if that. Their performance through the year raised expectations. It was ridiculous for people to expect them to win against Florida when they couldn't get to them with Bergeron and Krejci last year, though. Swayman notwithstanding, this time around. They are basically in the midst of an attempted midstream rebuild, and hopefully will take a moment to congratulate themselves for at least getting a playoff series victory vs Leafs, and making the Panthers' series a close one.
How do we feel about an Ullmark/Marner trade?
Great video Shannon! I know you don't get into rumors or anything like that; but do you think a trade of Ullmark to someone would bring a legit first line center the other way? I've seen some people speculating that Boston may revisit their trade discussions with LA; with Pierre-Luc Dubois coming to Boston. If that actually happens, the calls to fire Sweeney might be too intense to ignore. I'm not sure what teams out there have legitimate #1 centers while also having a need for a #1 goalie. Just curious on your thoughts!
the Bruins haven't had two losing seasons in a row since before I was born, and I'm pretty old. For my money Sweeney's done just fine lately - the trades and the pickups hit even if the drafting has been, uh... not ideal throughout his tenure
Seventeen years, is "pretty old"?!
Doh! Make that, eight years since they missed the playoffs in subsequent seasons.
you, uh... you know there's a pretty big difference between "missed the playoffs" and "losing seasons" right
@@shawnconnolly597 Not when more than half of the league was getting into the playoffs.
My dude I am begging you to look up what "a losing season" means
It will help you avoid looking silly in the future 😊
Trade Ullmark, sign Sway, add a 1C, then add 2 more goalscorers to take the heat off pasta and marchand. Could go back to cup contender, unsure if they have the cap for this though
Don Sweeney is Bostons #1 problem.
If Ullmark is gone, I hope someone buys Shannon a Bussi jersey.
Seeing how well Bussi's been doing and the potential he clearly has is the one reason I feel like selling off Ullmark will be a setback the Bruins can live with. Swayman/Bussi goalie hugs are a vision of the future I'm keen to see actualised.
I’m a Bruins fan and I’m excited for this Off-season. Aside from Swayman, none of their free agents are guys they must keep. I wouldn’t mind if they let Debrusk go, he’s too inconsistent for the money it’ll cost to keep him.
Trade Ullmark to free up 5 million and if the cap goes up by a couple million and they should have 20 million *after* resigning Swayman. They’d have money to bring in some scoring
There are so many teams with good players that make for great playoff competition. Another player or two, and they'll be right back in it.
this might be INSANE, but if the bruins could maybe weasel horvat out of NYI with some retention, that might be the PERFECT pickup
I would keep JDB, sign Swayman, Heinen and Boquist.
Great take, glad to see others sing the praises of DeBrusk, Heiney, and Jesper
It all depends on price. If the rumored $6 mil price tag for Debrusk proves true, the Bruins have to let him walk. He put up 40 points in a contract year and has never cleared 50 points in his whole career, and keep in mind he was getting top minutes with guys like Bergeron and Marchand at the time. People are letting his playoff performance cloud their judgment. You know who has better playoff numbers than him and has cleared 50 points in his career? Tyler Bertuzzi. He got 5.5 mil last season and the Leafs still regretted it. Ideally, having both players on the team would be great, but if it's one or the other and their prices are similar, I say go for Bertuzzi.
@@Cableguy15 Absolutely. 5.5 is the most for 4/5 years.
I'd have to do some research, but I think Debrusk plays better against Canadian teams. Might be worth it up there, but he's too streaky and his lows are too low to be worthy of top 6 dollars here in Boston...
Boston has good drafting and developement.
Don Sweeney is a good GM. His scouting department at the junior level isn’t the best per se but I think his NHL moves have been good.
The lack of a #1 center. With an actual #1 they could’ve slotted the other centers to their actual levels. This would’ve exponentially increased their offensive game. The wingers are ok and their defense is good enough, especially with Swayman in the net.
Swayman is a beast and I’m proud of this team but feel bad for #1
it's been 2 years since people called the bruins for a drop in the standings. last year was a record year and this year a better than expected year with no center line at all.
they know what to do. also, trading the reigning vezina winner for assets before the draft could bring the B's a high first round pick. many teams needs a goalie, including anyone in the top 5 in the draft.
As a person who roots for a team that has shared a division with Boston since their inception... Cause for celebration... Swayman was the only reason this team even made it this far...
The biggest problem the Bruins have had in the playoffs is not paying the Maple Leafs in every round.
Was it really scoring depth? How many goals did pasta have?
Scoring depth would help take the pressure off Pasta, but I see your point. He didn't have 60 goals like last year or 2 years ago, but he could get back there if he had some help from the other forwards.
Priority has to be a first-string centre who can win faceoffs and score. Second priority should be a scoring winger.
Are u a Canadian bruins fan or a real American one?
@@GlacialspringSo Canadians can’t be Bruins fans? Are you well?
@@Glacialspring Canadians are the best Bruins fans because we can support them without living in America.
@@Glacialspring Bruh, you realize outside of New England, Canada has the most Bruins fans on the continent right?
@@johnbrowne2170ya I agree
U and other Canadian bruins fans keep the bruins a marquee team they are the 4th team in Boston no doubt
They don’t love hockey as much as Toronto and Montreal
I can see a player like Joel Edmundson playing in Boston this year. He would help their depth.
All things considered I was pleasantly surprised by Coyle in a first line center role. If he was better at faceoffs I would have no problem keeping him in that role tbh. But its always kinda been his achilles heel while in Boston, especially when comparing the dropoff from Bergy and Krejci to him in years past.
He doesn't produce enough offense to be a first line center. He should be #2 at best.
The Bruins had enough scoring depth, they just didnt have enough high end talent.
Sway carried us all playoffs. All imma say is if we played any other team besides the leafs(or caps) we would have been bounced in the first round. I would trade Ullmark for another Center and go all in on Guentzel this off-season
You'd think they can get a pretty decent haul for Ullmark, but I'm afraid they'll set the price too high and scare teams off.
So glad to see the Bruins out.
So glad you made this illustrious comment.
@@rherchenreder Stop crying
Also, I would like them to get a top 6 center if one becomes available. I forgot to put that in my prior comment
Ulmark for Dannault might be a move both teams will regret making if it happens.
Great coverage. Can we fire Don Sweeney, please?
Why? Thats a horrible take.
@@mattgauthier7216 Google "sarcasm"
Didn’t he fire a coach that went on to win a cup shortly after?
Bruce Cassidy was no longer right for the organization and was not gojnb to develop younger players.
Hopefully you'll be making a video with the same title about the Oilers tomorrow
They need help at center. I hope they keep Ullmark.
I hope they trade Ullmark its a waste of 5 million bucks in cap space. Only 1 goalie gets to play come playoff time. Cant have 5 mil on the bench...
@@mattgauthier7216 Teams know about Ullmark's NTC and will use that to their advantage to get a better deal for themselves. Also, we can't sleep on just how fresh either goalie would be going into the playoffs thanks to the rotation. Everyone is hyper-focused on Ullmark, but why not Zacha? The B's already have Charlie Coyle and Morgan Geekie. Do they really need another guy who plays the same style? Zacha also makes a similar amount of money to Ullmark and is coming off a career season. The B's should explore trading him for picks to free up cap space and sign E. Lindholm.
@@Cableguy15 Elias Lindholm isnt much better than Zacha at this point. They need a true 1c. I would honestly trade Coyle instead, since Zacha was far more consistent this year and had a very manageable shooting percentage. And, any backup coached by goalie Bob would keep us afloat just fine. Start Sway 50-60 and he will be fresh.
Been saying it all year. Bruins fans, which I am one never wanted to here it. Can't get off shots, nevermind score goals. Should have traded Ulmark for a scorer. What did he do for you in the playoffs? No toughness which becomes evident during the playoffs
Tough way to end things, but honestly, they weren’t even expected to make the playoffs and it’s still shocking how they got through the first round of Toronto when they don’t even have the pure depth they have. They have $20 plus million in salary cap space. Yeah Swayman is probably going to get 6 million or so, but they are going to trade ullmark. They’ve already tried and it’s only a matter of time before he gets traded. There are some really decent players and free agency. I think they need a top four defenseman and multiple top six forwards they can do that because of the money they have. There are some real decent players in free agency they could get that could help them with this team.
hall and oats lolz
Hello, happy evening EU-time
Addition by subtraction when Gryzlyck doesn’t get re-signed. The one skill set he has you can find in Providence at ELC money, everything else is a negative
One day, the Bruins will reach the promise land of a Stanley Cup again. All we can do is stick with this team.
Swayman is getting offersheeted for sure. He was the reason Boston got as far as they did and teams must have noticed. There's so many teams without a star goaltender, that the draftpicks offersheet would costs aren't going to weigh a lot considering what Swayman could do to a team with more lethal offence than Boston.
Goalies are remarkably tough to predict from one year to the next. For a team to steal Swayman, the offer would have to be with a cap hit of 9 million or more. Who would be that insane?
@@TheHockeyGuyplease don’t jinx it 😂
If anyone is that crazy, they deserve to have that contract and the regret that would come along with it.
I could see Marchand hanging it up in 2025. Alot of his buddies from 10+ years ago have left and retired and I could see Marchand passing the C to either Pasta or McAvoy (hoping for Pasta).
I hear Bussi is pretty much ready to come up? So I like Ullmark, but I guess cap space will dictate he has to go and maybe bring up Bussi.
Usually president winners are doing bad in playoffs so next season they have worse regular season and save energy for palyoffs and do better in playoffs, didnt work out for bruins
I could definitely see Ullmark leaving. He could make a lot of money on a team that needs a good no #1. Such as the Leafs, Devils or maybe he’ll even end up back in Buffalo.
This is Sweeneys last chance to show he can fix the roster. If not I think he’s got to go and get some new thinking in the building. Monty is fine, let’s see how he does if we get some better and healthy players.
Need high end talent to play with Pasta
Meanwhile, Pasta could stand to improve his hockey IQ and play a morsel of defense. He scores a lot, great, but he's also making 11 mil. Time to earn it by improving his game a little. Enough with the no-look passes and blueline giveaways.
lack of scoring is part of it but, they also lost the real leaders of the team to retirement. As much as Bruins fans want to believe in Marcy as the captain, he can't hold a candle to those guys...
Great all they need is 2 top centers. Elias Lindholm over pay up comming? But thats not enough so trade for Mitch Marner and flop em at center as well
I think the Bruins should have started Ulmy over Swamzee. Too many minutes played by Swamzee and it showed on the final goal.
He saved 26 of 28, including some amazing saves.
Have a great golf break you zany Bruin's.
Keep your eyes on their professional female counterparts, PWHL Boston is on fire right now.
How good or bad is the Bruins future draft capital?
What draft capital? I think they don't have a pick until the 4th round this year and next year they have a 1st round pick but then nothing until the late rounds. After that I'm not sure.
@@angushiltz4880 Yeah, they need to fix this by trading for picks. It will come back to bite them in the ass if they don't. Lots of teams could use a goalie like Ullmark, but they shouldn't sleep on trading Zacha for picks, either. They could use the cap space and since he's basically the same player as Charlie Coyle, he has become a redundancy on the B's.
@@Cableguy15 I'm not a big fan of moving Ullmark but if he's willing to waive his NMC I guess I wouldn't be too upset. I personally would keep Zacha, he's younger than Coyle and can play the wing. If we can get a true #1 center to play with Pastrnak and Zacha as wings that would be a great top line.
Seems like everyone gave Monty a pass this year. Maybe he could have done better. As far as the too many men penalties go...when the veterans play like rookies, coach them like rookies. Do some line change drills. The Bruins answer for Offense is always "line change". It didn't work for Julien. It didn't work for Cassidy. Its not working for Montgomery. When the opponent takes out your top scorer, you need a PlanB. Where was Monty's PlanB?
Could you imagine if the with bruins could have picked up JT miller 😳 pretty sure they’ve been trying trying hard for awhile
ABB :-)
Is it just me or are the playoffs fairly predictable so far? Other than maybe the Rangers series, no upsets and the reasons teams get eliminated feels predictable. This video brings it to mind, we all knew they lacked depth scoring and that's why they got eliminated.
Trade Ullmark, he's better then a lot of starters in the league, let DeBrusk go. Find a center for the power play with Pasta.
Boston was 12th in GF’s in the Regular Season, but they did have ten players w/ at least 10 goals (McAvoy was the only D-man)
They just ran into a team even better than the one that surprised them last year. In the Playoffs, superb goaltending and special teams’ play (when penalties aren’t doled out as often) makes the difference.
My God the way you talk about this team makes me wonder if you’re a fan lol. You sound disgusted with them ha ha. More of the tone rather than what you’re saying.
I really am hoping that Elias Lindholm doesn't resign in Vancouver and we get him this offseason
you had me until u said they missed and needed grizz 🤣🤣🤣 what ? he was a healthy scratch and is completely terrible in the playoffs. small soft and very very fragile. he’s the first one who goes.
For all the times we laugh at Toronto for consistantly choking in the playoffs, people tend to forget the Bruins seem to choke a lot more come playoff time.
Yeah…
Love to see it
On the topic of the point difference between Pastrnak and the next closest player this season, I don't think that's the issue. Last year, the supposed super team had a very similar gap between Pastrnak and the next closest player, Marchand. 113 pts - 67 pts. The difference is, there are 7 other guys in the 50-70 pt range on that roster as opposed to this season at 4. Anyway, the B's strategy with Pastrnak is a little obvious at this point. Teams know to guard the Ovechkin dot and that's where he scores a lot of his goals. Another part of the problem is that a lot of his teammates would rather make an unrealistic pass to him than shoot the puck themselves. Zacha and Coyle are the worst culprits.
I think the frustration with Pasta comes from some bizarrely low hockey IQ plays that he tends to make. Lots and lots of giveaways at the offensive blueline, for example. The no-look pass fails 9/10 times. The complaints about him would simmer if he cut back on these things. I think it's a fair expectation that he plays *a little* more defense, too. He's making 11 mil. That's too much for him to spend most of his D-zone time floating.
I don't understand the thought held by some hockey experts that Ullmark OBVIOUSLY must be traded. No one ever explains why, as far as I'm concerned. I find it puzzling how little of their salary cap teams devote to goaltending. Isn't it the most important position? Suppose Swayman earns $9 million next season and the Bruins keep Ullmark at $5 million. That would mean 16% of the salary cap is spent on goaltending, which seems reasonable to me. I think I would trade Ullmark only for a talented young center.
1) About the only other thing Swayman could do this playoff run to improve his performance was skate the puck to the top of the circle and try to score from 140 ft.
2) Goaltending is important, but sometimes it just comes down to riding the hot goalie (like VAN vs EDM or Aidan Hill last year).
I can tell you this for free: Pavel Zacha will get you nowhere if he’s your 1C.
dont disrespect zacha, hes a good player. but i agree that hes not a 1C, he does fit well as a 2C tho
He's not a 1C, that's pretty clear. 2C maybe, that would knock Coyle or Geekie down to 3C which isn't a bad thing. Could be a competition between Coyle, Geekie, and Beecher for 3C if they decide to resign Geekie.
Ullmark to toronto for marner and draft picks
Both have no movement clauses in their contracts.
trade ullmark- there you go problem solved kinda sorta :O
When you play Maroon, you're doomed to lose. What a waste of a skilled player
I don't like Montgomery. To me he is an overrated coach that makes bonehead mistakes especially in the playoffs. They need someone like Cassidy. I would like to see them fire Montgomery and bring in someone like Dean Evason for example. A no nonsense type coach. In terms of the players I would be unloading (trading) alot of their 3rd and 4th line players. I would retool or (make trades) for the defense and trade Ullmark. I did not like their team this year outside of Swayman this year was one to forget.
Imagine seeing Marchand with a different teams jersey? If he leaves the B's for another team I'm flipping the fuck out Gordon Ramsay style.
It won't happen unless he can't let the game go when it's time. That's what happened with Chara.