Richard Dawkins | Outgrowing God | On Atheism, Ethics, and Theology
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Richard Dawkins is the world-famous evolutionary biologist, New York Times bestselling science writer, emeritus fellow of New College, Oxford, and previously Oxford University's Professor for Public Understanding of Science.
Dawkins rose to prominence after his 1976 publication The Selfish Gene, which introduced the term 'meme' and began a series of highly popular books including the Blind Watchmaker, The God Delusion, and, most recently, Outgrowing God.
In 2013, after voting in over 100 countries, Prospect Magazine named Professor Dawkins the world's number one thinker.
Professor Dawkins speaks to Alex about the meaning of atheism, the labelling of children as 'atheists', the evolutionary and social bases of morality, and the usefulness of theology as a discipline.
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OH MY GOD! Please, Alex, talk to Sam Harris next and discuss your problems with his "moral landscape." Please, like so he can see this.
Arctic Wolf ya and redpill Sam on veganism bc he has some nutritional dogma
Sam Harris, yes. Agreed.
Is Sam Harris still relevant or respected? I thought he fell off into more conservative dogma?
@@Matt-ww9wv other than his work against islam i dont know how much more i agree with him.
@@Matt-ww9wv why on earth would you think that? Site e examples please. And I dont mean anecdotally. Post links to where Sam has said something that makes you believe this?
Alex - Thanks for being here
Richard - *Sat in his own home* smiles
😂😂😂
I clocked that haha
Had to smile, too. "Thanks for being here... where you live..."
Thanks for being here (with us on this planet) i.e. existing. Which is a totally valid thing to say to Richard Dawkins wherever you meet him imo.
@@gwahli9620 In that respect certainly but the fact of being in his house made me lol
where? XD ah i thought at the end but its right at the beginning that i skipped. haha
Imagine being able to have a conversation with Richard Dawkins face to face! So proud of you, Alex.
Gregg Branden look it up
Yeah. While he's sitting on G-maw's favorite chair, in the middle of the living room. Afghan quilt and all.
One day people will say that about Alex!
I'm proud of Dawkins. Imagine talking to Alex face to face!
How old is Alex
Richard is just surprised and happy all through the interview to see a young man asking these interesting questions. Alex way to go man I liked this prodcast alot
"Richard Dawkins, thanks so much for being here"
"Of course I'm here this is my house"
lol
@fynes leigh What?
He thanked him for the interview
Landmark in Alex’s guests. It’s just a shame Hitch isn’t with us to have come on the podcast
fuck that's sad
Miss The Hitch ... :/
Let's be thankful Professor Dawkins still mops the floor! ;-)
he is definately missed.
Miss Hitch
Being an old teacher on the brink of retirement, I'm never more happy than to see a bright young mind developing into a first-class, all-round talent and intellectual. Alex is great!
I don't want to be an intellectual
@@UnashamedlyGodSquad That's why you're Adam.
Us old teachers are always impressed by a smart youngster, one who can "rush in where angels fear to tread." Good on ya, Alex!
CosmicSkeptic, I met Prof. Dawkins tonight and mentioned you and this interview to him, as I had a follow-up question on the evolutionary basis of fairness and empathy as it might relate to extending rights to non-human species.
Also, in the stage conversation, he talked about pronouncing atheism with emphasis on the first ‘a’ and spelling it a-theism. Your conversation with him has left its mark.
So did you talk about the rights of non human animals specifically farm animals with Dawkins? What was his response?
@@andrewmartin6445 sorry, am I being dense but "the first A"? Is there not just the one A in 'atheism'.
AnimalsAre BeautifulPeople I didn't ask him about that. He's not an ethicist, so I wouldn't think to talk to him that about that.
Why are they redefining terms? What’s wrong with agnostic?
Sam Price I mean, you watched the video, right? They started talking about that around the 11:04 mark.
I loved Alex’s face when he thought Dawkins was saying he was better at writing than hitchens 😂
Samuel Feinstein they’re pretty close but Dawkins is a tad better. ;-)
10:47
Just got up to the bit and regardless on wether you agree or whatever
LMAO 😂 that’s a great expression 😆
Dawkins is a better writer then Hitchens. Unfortunately Hitchens was more of a journalist so most of his writing is going to be completely irrelevant in the future if it is not already irrelevant. Some of Dawkins books on the other hands are actually classics that will be relevant hundreds of years from now unless something crazy happens like they actually scientifically disprove evolution.
hahaha
It's not every day you get to talk to the man who invented the meme.
TIMESTAMPS:
1:08 - Why do we need another book about atheism?
4:17 - Should we tailor our language to make our message more palatable?
9:42 - Christopher Hitchens
11:04 - Defining atheism and agnosticism
15:37 - Labelling children as atheists
18:50 - How can we ground morality without God?
26:30 - Animal rights
36:06 - Is theology ever useful?
41:15 - Is Richard Dawkins a philosopher?
Thank you, but the only timestamp we need is 0:00.
Pin this.
What a coup! Well done Alex.
I invented the meme, you fool. Not Dawkins.
This podcast is really interesting. thanks for doing it Alex. Lots of appreciation and love for what you are doing for the community.
"In his own lovely home" "Thanks for being here" xD
Yeah
That got me.
🤣
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Jesus loves you ❤. Your soul is on the line😭😭
I’d rather go to Hell than be stuck in your heaven
@@endofoxygen9384 There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, in the end, "Thy will be done." All that are in Hell, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell..choose God. God loves you. He sent his only begotten son to be sacrificed to pay for your sins since he is a just God,Holy God and rose from the dead after 3 days. If you humbly pray repent and honestly turn away from your sins (read the 10 commandments) and put your trust in that Jesus christ. son of God , son of man did that for you as lord and saviour. You will be saved and be granted a gift of eternal life.. This might be the last time you read the gospel. Jesus is coming soon. Not as the sacrificed lamb of God🐑 but as King of kings🤴. The Judge of all mankind. Look around🔥🔥 the end is nigh. Jesus loves you❤
@@keyboardevangelist8956 Is it a joke? I'm honestly confused.
can’t believe this the same guy that created the word, “meme”
Lol he did?
@@sharismad yes
@@sharismad yeah
Yes, as in "meme theory".
Gregg Branden look it up
Holy shit Dawkins is actually on your podcast that's really epic!
You did it you crazy son of a bitch, you did it!
IKR!!
@stephen noonan What kind of dimwitted idiot are you! Richard Dawkins is the kind of person who'll treat with respect anyone who is sincerely interested in engaging him in conversation on religion or any other subject within his realm of knowledge, whether they agree with him or not. He WILL ridicule the belief of religion, because religion SHOULD, nay MUST be ridiculed, but he won't ridicule the person. I ridiculed you because I'm not Richard Dawkins and I don't suffer fools.
666th like. This feels awfully fitting considering what the video is.
@@barneysaggers1637 Nice.
I don't see or hear Dawkins often anymore. This video makes me verry happy.
He's getting too old, survived a heart attack just a few years ago.
@@inertiaforce7846 I heard it was just a minor stroke he almost completely recovered from by now. Only his voice changed a bit.
@@inertiaforce7846 But yeah he's getting old. As we all are. Still incredible he made time for this. I hope he watches this channel too in his free time.
@@thatperson0013 Sure, but it seems to me as though he's taking things veeery easy these days, so as not to repeat what happened before.
He can't be yelling and screaming anymore. He's got to think about his blood pressure.
@@SpaceCattttt Yea and let's for hope for the best. Can't lose another veteran
38:54 Its just wonderfull for me to see Richard Dawkings at his age so open minded, Its really impressive. People always say that as you get older you become more and more closed minded, but he was so ready to accept this point that alex raises. Just inspiring. It shows how he really just cares about getting to the truth of everything.
Great podcast, huge fan. Sorry for my not so good english.
Dawkin is bully who tries to bully religious people !! disgusting. I am guessing he has nothing better to do in life ? Dawkin if u have nothing else to do in life then try Knitting at home?
Your English is perfect. Would never have thought it was your second language.
This is a fantastic interview ... only because it is one of a very few where clearly there is an educated discussion taking place, and the questions being asked are deep, philosophical and challenging. Excellent.
Like asking Prof. Dawkins how we took a leak before we evolved to where we are now? Did we just hold it for millions of years. And act like your not impressed with his explanation of the evolution of the eye, and make sure you interrupt his beautiful explanation of how the human species evolved, with stories of how you found Jesus on a boat.
There were moments when Alex raised points in contrast to Dawkins' statements, and the most extraordinary thing happened. The elder man calmly stated " you make an excellent point, perhaps you're right.", or something to that effect. He is simply the epitome of the reasonable gentleman.
...as long as the one objecting shares his worldview.
@@Draezeth bit of a sweeping statement lol.
That's not extraordinary in any sense. It's called being a reasonable human being.
@@drmedwuast Being a reasonable human being is unfortunately, not the norm, which was my point. It is sadly very rare.
@@kkgauthier Ok, I see what you're saying. I'm probably spoiled because I try to make sure to surround myself with people who value collaboratively finding out truths over being right.
Wow, Richard Dawkins on your podcast. You've come a long way since you started making your response videos, it's great to see you and your voice grow! Very excited to listen to this conversation. Keep it up!
@Хомяк Великий He did a response video 4 weeks ago, and I'm sure if another video comes up that's worth responding to, granted Alex has time of course, that he'll make another response video. Nothing indicates that he's completely stopped making response videos.
so said to see people end up in wrong place when they have no hope no future just like nothing
An athiest agreed with me that his athiesm justifies all evil. We talked about cannibalism and hitler vs jews.
I said, in your polytheism, man was created by stardust particles which renders you worse than idolaters, because idolaters do not believe that their inanimate idols could create anything while you took inanimate particles as creators. Thus you are polytheist in Lordship.
And then you believe that everyone will vanish into oblivion as stardust particles. So who was right between the cannibal vs his victim or hitler vs his victims?
So he said that the people tarrying on earth decides it. And I said, what if they favoured cannibalism just like your culture justified homosexuality, transsexuality and pornography? Or if hitler won the war?
Thus, athiesm is very dangerous. It renders the doing of good vain and worthless as it will eventually become equal with all the evil. And it justifies all the evil once it becomes equal with all the good in the end.
Thus Allah did not allow athiests Jizyah status or protection. Because they are a menace bent on corruption and beautifying indifference, despair, nothingness and the thinking that this world exists in vain, injustice and with falsehood. Rather it exists with absolute truth, justice and meaning as Allah سبحانه وتعالى said:
وَمَا خَلَقْنَا السَّمَاءَ وَالْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا بَاطِلًا ۚ ذَٰلِكَ ظَنُّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا ۚ فَوَيْلٌ لِّلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنَ النَّارِ
And We created not the heaven and the earth and all that is between them with falsehood! That is the consideration of those who disbelieve! Then woe to those who disbelieve from the Fire! [Sad 38:27]
It didn't matter if they deceived the whole world or just remained silent or even existed. Both outcomes means that everyone vanishes with one another as stardust in the end. No one had the truth, and there was no right and wrong. And they have no history or traces on the earth.
You annihilate them, continuous Jihaad, even taking them as slaves is allowed. They have no rights in Islam.
@@Ibn_Abdulaziz_2 why do bother with this youtube channel.
Your words are falling on deaf ears and your argument is irrelevant to begin with.
Atheists don't visit religious youtube channels to air their views, so why bother us.
If you are interested in debate, athiest are happy to oblige but pointless dialogue isn't productive.
As-Salaam-Alaikum
@@Ibn_Abdulaziz_2 the most important Jihaad a Muslim can go on according to the Koran is intellectual.
Focus on education and try to get those like me to understand your point of view. Assuming you have a point of view relating to the interview that is.
As-Salaam-Alaikum
My favorite part is Richard Dawkins saying, “you’re being too philosophical.” Bless this man. Never afraid of rejecting a question he sees as silly.
He regards philosophical questions as "silly" because he is innocent of philosophy.
@Sthaman Sinha What is the Scientific method?
Gregg Branden look it up
He is a pragmatist and he has the right and rationale to be one.
It isn't silly, though, is it? The line of questioning cuts to the heart of how morality can be reliably determined. The consequences of a correct answer are profound.
I've watched all Richard Dawkins interviews on TH-cam, and he looked never so smitten with an interviewer as he did here
He is finally talking with a young intellectual rather than some know-nothing pop star, talk show host, or zealot.
Because he is in his own home
I'm sure I would be too if I were talking to him.
I think he's happy to see that there is someone able to carry on the torch that he (dawkins) had fought so hard to light.
@@Geekybros111 well said
Isn't it amazing that nowadays scientists of such level can simply record a talk for a freaking youtube podcast! No need for jourlalists, special interviews of some sorts, big halls and etc. All we need is Richard talking :) Good job man, and thank you Dr. Dawkins
Культурный Дотер it is actually beautiful, but lets also not forget that youtube is actually educated more people now than average university in the world. I have learned more from just carefully choosing what to watch on youtube than all my 4 year of university course )) Ps: i love Dawkins from all his work and inspiration, and of course Alex who is a voice of my generation pushing us all young "dummies" forward.
Richard Dawkins isn't a scientist actually. Doctorate of Philosophy.
Let's not forget that radio has been around for quite some time :P
@@Draezeth He holds a bachelor's degree, a master's degree, and Phd. in Zoology from Oxford.
So why do people think Dawkins is hot shit again? Other than the dogma he puts out
I love that Alex wasn’t pandering and asked hard/complicated philosophical questions. I really appreciated his manner of interviewing him.
Agreed.
Herald Orome you think? I have to listen back. Do you think he was being “difficult “? I’m going by how his other vids and from what I’ve seen he seems to keep that same energy with everyone 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤔🤔
I’m totally open to looking again 🤷🏽♀️
@Herald Orome in a normal casual conversation, the insistence and intensity would be a bit rude, as it is inpolite to put a guest on the spot like that. However, I think the hard questions shows a certain level of respect. Asking easy questions would communicate "I don't think you can handle being challenged, so I will patronize you out of pity"
So I think it was a display of respect, not of immaturity
@@spygulturtle2322 Thats an interesting way of seeing it. Never thought of it that way
Yeah, I respect Alex for doing it. Dawkins was extremely disappointing, though. He can't properly ground his beliefs and apparently is not very interested on trying to do so. That would be OK if he wasn't constantly writing and speaking on the matter, but as he is, it's just embarrassing. He should stick to science and let philosophers do the public philosophical debate.
I've recently listened to a bunch of videos on TH-cam regarding Dawkins' latest book, and this interview is miles above the rest of them. Good job, and thanks for doing it
I have no doubt.
It's amazing how far you've come with your channel, having an interview with the legend Dawkins himself!
He is a mere man who denies logic and reason and believes the world came from a big bang 🤣🤣🤣
@@FreakishlyTrue, but there's strong evidence that we came from a big bang.
The more distance galaxies appear more red than the closer ones. According to the doppler effect that means the universe has been expanding since its formation proving that we came from one singularity.
Religious Gods on the other hand, there is no evidence whatsoever of their existence.
Therefore logic and reason lies more with believing in the big bang than it does with religious Gods.
Dawkin is bully who tries to bully religious people !! disgusting. I am guessing he has nothing better to do in life ? Dawkin if u have nothing else to do in life then try Knitting at home?
@@FreakishlyTrue Are you one of those steady state theorists? How do you explain cosmic background radiation then?
When I was still Muslim I saw Dawkins on TV (Root of all Evil) & although I joined in the sneering & dismissive comments of those around me, there was something inside me saying; 'Damn! He's right.' We should never forget what an amazing impact this man has had. Thank you, Richard. You & Hitchens will always have a special place in my heart.
Im so glad people like Dawkins can touch people from many different religions, especially Islam. Atheists such as myself from a Christian society face such little social consequences compared to those atheists leaving Islam. But atheism ties us all together. Atheism is truly multicultural and diverse
Hey Hassan - interesting to see you here. Good comment.
Oh Hassan, I admire you and Richard so much! Both of you have been such a candle in the darkness of my life, I can never thank you two and all other skeptics of religion, enough!
Sheep
www.miracles-of-quran.com/index.htm Lmao you atheist fools are blind and are pseudointellectuals 0+0 cant equal 1 u goofs Quran is a miracle. This fool cosmicskeptic got destroyed by mohammad hijab and abdullah andalusi lmao sit down.
Wow, I'm super happy for you. You've reached another level my man.
Such an honor to have him as a guest. He's a true gift to the world. Great catch CS! Richard has been very smart to avail himself to youthful mediums to get the good word out (reason).
I love Richard Dawkins not because of he is an atheist, but because his words and ideas are so superb. He is such a wonderful scientist who works harder to make the world understand we are the products of evolution. And the interviewer's questions were so relevant as well. Thanks for conducting such an amazing interview with Richard Dawkins..
Richard Dawkins seemed truly impressed by Alex. The young man gave the professor more to think about. He was well composed and I noticed no sign of trepidation. Great job!
So are you a super big Richard Dawkins fan?
What type or level of atheist are you on the Dawkins scale that he mentioned in one of his books?
@@evolutionisbull5h1t I wouldn't call myself a big fan of Richard Dawkins. I have seen some of his debates but I haven't read any of his books. Unlike Dawkins, I'm skeptical of macroevolution. I guess it might have something to do with my engineering and computer science background.
On the atheist scale, I would consider myself a 7.
Julian Borges
Mmm..
I remember thinking to myself “it’s weird being a fan of a 16 year old”
But good ideas are good ideas.
Look at you now Alex.
good ideas are good ideas regardless of age, i think its a product of evolution that we wont give weight to what someone younger has to say
You’re talking about someone spreading false info. I want you to never ask why when something bad happens. People like you doing shit like this and not caring to look deeper into the channels allows shifty people to move shit around and that’s why. Have fun
@@SleepDaMouse-xd8dn huh...
I'm SO GLAD you fixed the audio after the 3:00 mark. Great interview, Alex.
that was a very impressive interview, well done Cosmic Skeptic!
Its been a while since Richard Dawkins appear on any video.
...great to see him back
Amen
he looks good, too
Dawkins and cosmic skeptic together!!! This just made my day!! Nice one Alex!!
Skeptic. Sceptic is something totally different.
Nick Pimenta epic 😊
@@adamplentl5588 thanks! Updated my comment with correct spelling
Holy shit dude congrats on this interview! So glad your channel is where it is you deserve it
Muy buena entrevista, ¡Gracias por compartirlo públicamente!
I audibly said "holy shit, Skeptic's got Richard Dawkins on?" And a coworker said "who and who?" Lol. We're a niche group, but a proud one, dammit.
Thunderf00t is in another pickle concerning false dmca claim against a critical video of his. He ended the update with the video of Venomfangx reading the prepared statement about how wrong he was to mess around with dmca copyright law and Thunderf00t. If you weren't into TH-cam atheism that video would have made no sense at all.
so said to see people end up in wrong place when they have no hope no future just like nothing
F
Yes, gois. You are very special. Be proud of what we have given you.
@@kamaljreije4113 I'm two semesters from finally getting my degree and paid for it myself, except for tap and pell, and to top that I've spent time researching, planning, and overall making sure i can get into my desired industry. What's my point? Well, I do have a future. A real one. A tangible one. Not one that has to do with the false gods of the gullible. Frankly, as an ex true believing Christian, I say Christians are the ones who have no future. They mingle, evangelize and do care much for the life they live, because they see a life after.
So no, I feel *sad for you, because you avoid the chance to make a difference on false hope that gets you nowhere, and will ultimately bring you nothing. If you're at all concerned with truth, well call me Jesus fuckin' Christ for putting it out there for you. You can practice your religion, have your faith, but the fact of the matter is that it's devoid of meaning and feints purpose.
Two generations of atheists in one room. I'm so happy right now. Go Alex!!
Franz Kissel being watched online by the next generation of atheists...
I have a feeling Alex could be the next Christopher hitchens or close to him
@@byehaveagreattime7796 dawkins, hitchens, Sam why do these people get so much praise? There is little merely impressive about the stuff they say, maybe if you're a 12-15 year old.
@@imacat8476 Because they were some of the few with a loud voice on the forefront speaking common sense on religious topics. There are lots of philosophical and/or scientific gems from all of them.
@@EpicWarrior131 A lot of their arguments on these topics are quite underwhelming.
The only reason why you'd think otherwise and why there is little rebuttal against them that convinces you is because a lot of contemporary atheists blindly acknowledge such arguments as logical because atheism for them is the first form of politics they're exposed to.
A lot of atheistic arguments are based on a liberal morality that criticises religion, which liberal morality is its own thing that most atheists know very little about. Like the opposition towards inequalities, societal roles, authoritarianism and etc etc.
Sam is a smart guy but he is a victim of being under-researched when it comes to politics and theology (him studying it in university doesn't mean anything, his videos about his degree just shows how much he misinterpreted or incorrectly independently elaborated on a lot of the ideas presented to him in theology).
The other thing is that Sam isn't just an atheist, he is also a liberal, his arguments against religion mostly consist on the basis of the liberal agenda which already has a lot of Inherent flaws unrelated to religion.
They're praised because their basis of criticism is based on liberalism and very basic forms of it which is easily agreeable and understandable for most people, which on the contrary makes religion look a bit silly if you're quite an amature on the subject like pretty much all of the people that watch Sam are.
What an absolutely lovely discussion. I feel clearer & smarter for having listened to it.
😆
Thank you both.
Dawkin is bully who tries to bully religious people !! disgusting. I am guessing he has nothing better to do in life ? Dawkin if u have nothing else to do in life then try Knitting at home?
Just came across this interview. It's a wonderful conversation... very interesting!
I don’t think Dawkins ever complimented his host like he did in this one.
Bravo Alex. It is a badge of honour.
🌻
Bravo Alex! You have shown to be a real parrot, who mimicks the songs sung by most scientists almost perfectly!
Shame Hitchens isnt with us anymore to come on the podcast. Would be really awesome to see Stephen Fry on here
michal szerszen Hitchens is watching from. . . Probably not. Sorry Hitchens.
Derren Brown would be another good one; very much from the school of thoughtful rationalism, even if his professional "stunts"(?) and "tricks"(?) leave me frequently bewildered and that in itself would make for a great discussion
@@MostlyLoveOfMusic Darwin Brown is pretty much of the opinion that suffering comes from trying to change the world as Darwin said in a Russell Howard interview. But Alex is pretty much in the persuasion of trying to change the world.
So it would be interesting to hear their discuss the two ideas.
Damn it! Why did you let Hitch die?! How could you take him away from us?!
...I have no idea who I’m yelling at right now 🥴
@Hans Hanzo he did some debates with Christopher hitchens as well. Plus legend as it that Stephen fry knows why 42 is the meaning of life the universe and everything. As Douglas Adams and he was friends.
Sometimes in an interview, one person behaves worse than other, but in this one, both participants are awesome, thank you!
What a treat to see these two together. Thank you.
I'll always have a soft spot for Dawkins
I'll always have a hard spot for Alex
@Karl Jansen
Such a well-reasoned, cogent argument. You really must write a book.
@Karl Jansen Someone says something I don't agree with: Insult him! Luckily there are other, articulate, people who can put together an argument. RD is one of them.
@Karl Jansen It seems that you're confusing the word 'articulate' with something else completely. Dawkin's was wholly articulate, not only in this vid, but in every in every vid I've watched with him in it.
@Karl Jansen In what?
You got Richard Dawkins on your Podcast??
Okay that's impressive. Keep up the good work!
That’s not his name.
@@larjkok1184 I'm so, so sorry for the typing error.
@@larjkok1184 Who are you talking to?
I've enjoyed Dawkins' work for many years and to see Alex hold such a meaningful, informative and even, dare I say, aesthetically appealing dialogue with him is very impressive.
Congratulations Alex, you've come a long way since the beginning! Thank you for all the work you're done and the voice you've been for us, who aren't willing to be the face of these discussions about religion and ethics.
I wish all the best for you in your life!
Dawkin is bully who tries to bully religious people !! disgusting. I am guessing he has nothing better to do in life ? Dawkin if u have nothing else to do in life then try Knitting at home?
This is fascinating Alex, you are becoming a great interviewer as well as a philosopher in your own right! Good to have taught you at A-level (though you were clearly so far beyond our classes!) and to see you develop so brilliantly and humbly as a person.
Dawkin is bully who tries to bully religious people !! disgusting. I am guessing he has nothing better to do in life ? Hello Mr Scrooge Dawkin have u tried Knitting ?
Alex your interview with Richard Dawkins was absolutely brilliant. All the time he kept saying ‘That is a good question ‘ You certainly are becoming a great interviewer and are on the same level as the interviewee. Well done! 👍
Dawkins is that guy you'd want to sit around a table with, in a nice wooden log house, on a cold stormful winter evening, next to a warming fireplace, eating dinner, while drinking a couple of beers, listening and laughing together.
little gay there buddy
Nope. Never.
Wine instead of beer
@@zeckybuzgheia6239 🤣🤣
Is that an interview or a marriage proposal?
I haven’t watched you for quite awhile, Alex - I come back and here you are, interviewing Richard Dawkins. Nice! 👍😃
The way that Alex can not only hold his own but seems to offer corrections or points that his highly educated and respected guests have not considered is amazing.
Alex is wise beyond his years
Your podcast is doing well considering all these famous people showing up :D.
I'm pretty sure he meant thanks for being here, "here" being the podcast 'Cosmic Skeptic'.
THIS IS THE END TIMES🔥🔥🔥.ENOUGH WITH ATHEISM FOOLISHNESS. YOU ARE ALL STUCK IN PLATO'S CAVE AND SATAN 'S MATRIX OF LIES. THE SPIRITUAL REALM IS REAL. REPENT OF YOUR SINS AND TRUST THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST. YOU WILL BE SAVED FROM HELL 🔥
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What a wonderful conversation. I especially love the bottle of red levitating off Alex’s left shoulder
Terrific interview Alex. I appreciated Dr. Dawkins perspectives and really enjoyed your interview style. This is a very good format for your skill set and I would encourage more of the same. Thanks.
Dawkin is bully who tries to bully religious people !! disgusting. I am guessing he has nothing better to do in life ? Dawkin if u have nothing else to do in life then try Knitting at home?
I'm a very simple man.
I see Richard Dawkins.
I like the Video without even watching it.
... thats... not really a good thing :D
Ok Billi, sure, but then none of you can criticize people who instantly dislike without watching.
Just stop.
So over this crappy line.
Sound like most Richard Dawkins fanboys
would u change ur nick?
"You are being too philosophical"
- He said, to a philosopher.
Caro Gomez Carrillo To be fair, Dawkins is a scientist first so that’s kind of the primary part of his identity that shapes his ethical framework. He’s surely no stranger to philosophical inquiry, but he values practicality over remaining absolutely logically coherent if that would mean causing harm to the self or others
@@ReconNarwhal oh yeah, sure. I was just stating that Dawkins said that to Alex, who is in fact, a philosopher.
He said he was being to philosophical with regard to Richards view. In other words he is reading more into or making more out of what Richards wrote than what Richards intended. The philosopher is applying his own philosophical bent on what Richard wrote, and coming up with ideas that Richards never intended. It's a perfectly valid point. It's fine to be a philosopher. But let Richards words mean what he intended. Dont try to bend them with your own perspective. Accept what Richard meant and debate or talk about that.
Stan Juan Fair point. Misrepresenting someone’s position doesn’t do anyone justice.
Caro Gomez Carrillo Oh I got that it was an ironic joke, I was just leaping off it why I think he said that line (at least in part).
This was a really stellar interview with some fantastic questions mate, I am loving your work through to the current day and this was a shining gem of a video to find in your uploads ❤ I would love to see more interviews just like this one. Can anyone say Sam Harris!!!
I found it refreshing how you did not let Dawkins skirt around or evade the precise point of your questions... I also find that in evangelizing I too present questions in the same way, reasonably speaking, before I reveal that I am a theist let alone of which faith. Great interview Alex and I wish I had seen this much sooner.
Congratulations Alex, your hard work is paying off. How grand is this? In his home.
Mountain comes to Mohammed :-)
@David Renwick.... The irony of your comment. Brilliant!
Having Richard Dawkins on your podcast perfecty reflects the respect you now have within the global atheist community. Another articulate and well presented video - well done! Looking forward to seeing you live in Winchester shortly.
Respect is devoid of any meaning on Atheism. Richard Dawkins agreed in this video that people don't have objective moral value, so respect is technically not due to either of them on your Worldview! So, I'm honestly curious, why do you show admiration for this behavior when you think it's objectively meaningless?!
@@michaelsayad5085 Just because something is objectively meaningless on a cosmic level doesn't mean that it's subjectively meaningless. Which is to say that God or no God, Big Bang or no Big Bang, every feeling or thought that any of us might have isn't felt any less tangibly one way or another. Either way, love or lust or, in this case, respect (a result of evolution, of God, your pick) are both present and compelling no matter whether it matters in the grand scheme of things. Yours and others' actions have an effect on you both physically and psychologically that's felt on such a personal and individualistic level that it really doesn't matter whether there's objective meaning. Think about when you've had sex, had children, felt love, been in the company of people you genuinely enjoy, ect. In those moments (for the most part, at least some of the time), you're so caught up in living that your life's inherent value on a macroscale isn't even considered. TL;DR: emotions are felt on a physical level even if they're unimportant cosmically.
@@isaackemp2151 If we are objectively meaningless on a cosmic level then it doesn't matter how much pleasure or happiness I attain in this life or how much pain I endure. Regardless, it will all end the same in my inevitable non-existence.
@@michaelsayad5085 Exactly. Objectively, it doesn't matter. It only matters subjectively. Which is also relevant in the question of whether much we do matters even if there is objective meaning and God exists. For example, if something irrelevant to your immortal soul (say, watching a favorite TV show or something similarly trivial) happens while you're alive on Earth, and if it doesn't really affect anything ever in the long run (as in it's unlikely that for most people watching Spongebob will effect whether they go to Heaven, let alone whether Jesus comes back and the world ends), then does it have any purpose objectively? Not really. Anything you do will be null after the Second Coming as long as it doesn't effect your eternal soul in a way that changes its (supposed) eventual outcome. Even if God is proven to exist much of what you do in your day-to-day life still lacks any meaningful impact overall. There are a million different ways that someone as a Christian might go through life while retaining and maintaining their faith. And given the fact that what gives Christians objective meaning is faith and the result of that faith, all of those million ways are inconsequential so long as that other single path leads to the same place. Which begs the question: why do anything at all that doesn't relate wholly to your going to Heaven? Why flirt with this girl, or paint this painting, or watch this TV show, or make this choice instead of this other choice that would lead you down the exact same path to eternal life, when the result is the same? The only possible answer is that you did this specific insignificant thing at this specific insignificant time not because it had any objective consequence, but because you felt like it. On a physical and psychological level it felt good, even if, for example, it was only some stick figure drawing you did when you were five, or anything similar. Regardless, it will all end in your inevitable eternal existence.
@@isaackemp2151 I think that if God exists momentary happiness is important, too. So, yes, the majority of the things we do on this earth aren't important in and of themselves but they are important to have because happiness is objectively good. Though, it is true that our main focus should be on heaven and getting others into heaven. This is what the purpose of our earthly lives are and this is why our earthly lives are embued with eternal significance.
I don't think momentary happiness is important if God does not exist, however, I get your point that our momentary happiness ends up the same regardless of the truth from our point of view.
Though, one could then make the argument that true happiness is not possible on earth without believing in God's existence and having a relationship with him.
Extremely good video. You are on your way to massive success, CosmicSkeptic.
love how mature Alex is he comes to each talk with people and even in his responses he is such a mature partner I the conversation especially with someone as experienced as Richard
Dawkin is bully who tries to bully religious people !! disgusting. I am guessing he has nothing better to do in life ? Dawkin if u have nothing else to do in life then try Knitting at home?
holy shit , he actually got richard dawkins on the show , awsome.
I love how this is one of the few interviews where Richard was finally asked great, logical questions because usually he just explains the same things to theists who still dont understand
@Trolltician when you called atheism retarded in your own childish way? Did you read your own comment?
A very good interview. Interesting questions and he seemed very impressed by you. A new subscriber here! Very well done. Extremely informative.
What an incredible episode!
Richard Dawkins is such a great thinker, and Alex does a great work with his philosophical questions.
"You are getting too philosophical for me"
Dawkin is bully who tries to bully religious people !! disgusting. I am guessing he has nothing better to do in life ? Dawkin if u have nothing else to do in life then try Knitting at home?
WOW what a guest to have! Respect for the both of you
wow his home is nice :)
Richard Dawkins was a deep breath of fresh air for my mind, what a great interview!
@fynes leigh lol "God"
Dawkin is bully who tries to bully religious people !! disgusting. I am guessing he has nothing better to do in life ? Dawkin if u have nothing else to do in life then try Knitting at home?
Something interesting that came to mind in the last few minutes of this interview, with the mention of Daniel Dennett - I'm reminded of a quote from a paper of his from the 90s (I think?) which references machine ethics (my field), where he says that roboticists are doing philosophy, though they don't know it. I think something to keep in mind is that everyone (like Dawkins) who engages the contemporary discourse on how science/technology/anything shapes human thought is, in some sense, engaging in philosophical research. I really appreciate people like you who acknowledge this explicitly.
I Love how you were nervous and how it took you a while to be able to actually relax and listen then respond to Mr. Dawkin's questions. When your voice cracked about 11 minutes in particularly. But you were excellent, made and brought out great points and the video was awesome. Thanks again.
Reading The God Delusion changed my life. I wish I could thank Dawkins in person but I'll settle for supporting his work by reading all his books.
Joel Pearson have you read “ the Dawkins delusion “ by Alister McGrath as to asses fairly ? Or “Dawkins God “ ?
@@MJ-tj3nd The former is famously a ridiculously unsuccessful criticism of Dawkins' works. I've never heard of the latter, though, I just might read it.
I support everything he wrote about evolution. He is a great scientist. But please don't believe anything he wrote about philosophy. He doesn't know a thing about it. You can see it in his criticism of aquinas.
I read a variety of apologists, but none of them so far know how logic works.
@@lenar.1691 - well, yah, if you go to Dawkins for philosophical help, it's like going to Arizona for water.
Man you've been getting some of the best possible guests ever on your show lately. I am really extremely happy for you and how your channel is doing, you obviously deserve every bit of the success and more in my opinion. As always thanks for the great content.
Great interview. Great questio0ns and answers.
Next interviewee on the CosmicSkeptic: God!
Hitch died ... sorry to report. 😢
😂💔
Alex, this is incredible. You've come so far, I love that I've gotten to see this community grow. I knew it was only a matter of time before you got one of the three living horsemen in an interview. You are amazing, keep up the good work.
I'm a great fan of Sir Richard Dawkins,
From India :)
From worshiping a cow to worshiping a man. That is one step up. Congratulation.
Has he been knighted?
@@redsox7897 Admiration is not worship
@@redsox7897 I hope you know that not all Indians are Hindus
If that's an effort to have him knighted, I'll sign your petition.
Wow man. Your channel has really grown. What a platform you've achieved. I admire both Lawrence Krauss and Richard Dawkins tremendously, and always love hearing their views on certain topics, even if I do not agree with them (very rarely is that the case). Richard Dawkins has more patience and courtesy than, perhaps, anyone I've ever seen. A man that should be seen as a role model, especially among children, teenagers, and young adults. My future children will certainly be introduced to him early.
I think this has been good, too👌👍 Thank you for this excellent content and the quality of your questions.
Wow, that guy? Damn youre world famous now
Very pivotal moment in Alex's life as well as his channel. Great to see these two together! Life is now complete..
@The Bengalee Sceptic He also bumped into William Lane Craig.
@The Bengalee Sceptic Yes!!
Its nice to see a father and son having such an amicable discussion
I think the age difference might be more like grandfather and grandson
A COHERENT AND ENLIGHTENING CONVERSATION BETWEEN TWO ( A YOUNG AND A MORE SEASONED ) INTELLECTUAL
GIANTS ! JUST AMAZINGLY
GREAT !
@CosmicSkeptic may I congratulate you in giving one of your heroes a hard time.
Your questions were deep and probing and in a few cases, you actually stumped him. This wasn't a hostile interrogation and it wasn't a bunch of softballs. You engaged with him and he with you.
So much better than what you see in the mainstream media. So much more depth.
And who knows, in his next book he may give you a nod to you for the questions you first raised to him.
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@@keyboardevangelist8956 According to Christians, it has been “this is the end times” for about two thousand years, and apart from some vague predictions about war and earthquakes, that are as prophetic as saying it’s going to rain, nothing has happened. So, I suggest you follow the advice of Matthew 24:36 “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”
I will note that like most Christians, you equate threats with love. Is fear the only emotion you have?
When it comes to determining reality, I find it useful to compare expectations against observation. In Plato’s cave, if what we see is but a shadow play then we would expect to be able to see the hand of the Puppeteer. If we live in God’s grace then we would expect to see the hand of God.
There are two possible universes. In one universe everything that happens is the will of God. In the other universe events follow each other without any plan, lurching blindly from one event to another.
If we look at natural disasters, sometimes the innocent are saved and sometimes they are not. Are God’s favoured people favoured by the universe?
In every way that we would expect to see a difference between the God universe and the Godless universe, it is the one that matches the Godless universe that we actually experience.
And if I was to forgo all experience and assume that the spiritual realm is real, and given that I follow more of the 614 commandments than most Christians, I will be punished for eternity for not accepting responsibility for a crime that was committed by my punisher. I’m sorry but that’s not a definition of good that I can accept.
I know your fanfic has God as the hero, but the story just paints him as the straight up villain.
The first two people this perfect designer created go scrumping. A crime so horrid that every other human ever created will have to be punished by eternal torture. Some might say that’s a bit of an overreaction. But this is the God that killed almost every living creature because people where bad in some undefined way (probably someone forgot to return a library book). The same God who obliterated Sodom and Gomorrah for other undefined badness, but saved the only good people, a father and his two incestuous daughters.
But in his second book he did lighten the tone a bit, with the message of worship me or burn forever.
So, even if I was to succumb to your belief, I just wouldn’t be able to accept your God as a good guy.
@@mabrown666 Satan is real. His greatest trick is deceiving many that he doesn't exist..he has spread his doctrine "Do what you want" so that you could end up in hell with him. Through the music and the movie industry, he cast a spell through his satanic occultic artist indoctrinating them astray from God's laws.. This is the end times🔥🔥.. Jesus is the only way ,the truth and the life.. repent of your sins and trust the gospel of Jesus christ. And you will be saved from hell🔥..
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@@mabrown666 You see a 1000 yrs is like a day to God. Jesus talked about a generation that would see Israel become a country again. It has being a little more than 75 yrs since Israel became a country.. We are in a point of history in which the mark of the beast technology is actually possible due to RFID chips and neural-link. You see the paper economic world as you know it is going to crash very soon. And only cryptocurrency will remain. The bible predicts this that without the mark of the beast they won't be able to buy and sell. The bible also predicts the One world religion. In which all religions will unite thinking all ways lead to heaven. But they are mistaken. Their only one way. You can see that currently the pope (the false prophet) is holding meetings with other religion about bringing peace and seperation of their divisions. The bible also predicts the likes of you. The mockers. The bible says he will come like a thief in the night . Like the days of Noah. You see Noah warned them but they mocked until the flood came and overtook them. I tell you a flood is indeed coming to this world the world has never seen. Born again Christians in US are having devastating nuclear fallout dream in the US ground. The destruction of the US in WW3 would lead the world to a New world order with one religion and one government. Satan's dream come true. To be worshipped by the entire world disguised as the Jewish awaited Messiah, the lord maitreya of the New age and the Mahdi of the Muslims. That is going to crash the crosses. But he is the anti-christ. Then the real Jesus will come back destroy the Antichrist reign and establish a 1000 yrs reign of true peace. Then the End will come.
@Donna English There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, in the end, "Thy will be done." All that are in Hell, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell..choose God. God loves you. He sent his only begotten son to be sacrificed to pay for your sins since he is a just God,Holy God and rose from the dead after 3 days. If you humbly pray repent and honestly turn away from your sins (read the 10 commandments) and put your trust in that Jesus christ. son of God , son of man did that for you as lord and saviour. You will be saved and be granted a gift of eternal life.. This might be the last time you read the gospel. Jesus is coming soon. Not as the sacrificed lamb of God🐑 but as King of kings🤴. The Judge of all mankind. Look around🔥🔥 the end is nigh. Jesus loves you❤
You got Richard Dawkins doing interview for you??? I'm impressed. Really well done!
Dawkin is bully who tries to bully religious people !! disgusting. I am guessing he has nothing better to do in life ? Dawkin if u have nothing else to do in life then try Knitting at home?
Very enriching conversation! Truly appreciated!
Super super gripping conversation!!!
I think Dawkins is more focused on the scientific side of disproving religion rather than the philosophical side, he seemed slightly uninterested with some of the questions asked
@Energised Voyages right but in his book he attempts to address the Philosophical side and makes many mistakes. I don't think the scientific side can actually say much on the topic "does God exist"
I can understand that though. I regard beliefs in a god as such obvious nonsense that it's hard to justify spending time wading through the mental gymnastics called theology to better understand it. It's akin to studying the science behind flat earth theory or homeopathy.
@@DaveSmyth At the same time, it is a far more prevalent and damaging ideology. You'd certainly be better for trying to fight it.
@@declandougan7243 I agree. And yet I'm torn. Dawkins view is that people like himself engaging with that ideology gives it credibility. It's similar to the situation of creationists saying to "teach the controversy" in schools. There just is no controversy to teach. However, I certainly admire Alex for his dedication to engaging and challenging these ideologies in such a steady and reasonable manner. I guess we will just have to wait and see if it makes any difference!
@@DaveSmyth hah, that's just Dawkins mode of evading debate..
It's dogmatic thinking that is the problem and surely Atheists have, are, and will be capable of it. Early Christians through till medieval philosophers through till the scientific revolution were all Christians who were opposed to dogmatic thinking. Who was the father of modern Philosophy and methodological skepticism? A Christian..
When you encounter the top minds of both Atheists and theists you find they actually share a passion for moving forward, treating each other respectfully and a quest for truth.
Dawkins (and the new Atheists) in an ironic twist have become the dogmatic religion the sought to destroy.
Holly crap! I would need 2 hours just to calm down before I could do the interview! What a amazing guest! Wow
Great interview once again, Alex!
You were going so easy on him at first, and then ramped up the heat! Again it’s just so rare and useful to see people pushed like this - you have such a good intuition for it!
What a wonderful interview. Dawkins looks relaxed and upbeat. I can't wait to read his new book!
Good job, Alex!
Oh my non-existent god! I haven't seen Dawkins in any media since a loooooong time!! Hope he's doing well, I know the chap is getting up there in age and had at least 1 stroke and 1 heart attack. So here's to his old age treating him well and remaining on Earth with great health with us Non-religious folk for as long as possible. 🍺🍻⚛
I didn't know about the heart attack. I know he had a stroke a couple years ago or so that took him out of commission for some time. He looks and sounds pretty much close to back to normal since the last time I saw him.
edit: voice might be still not quite as strong as before but close if not. he sounded a little rough last time I saw and heard him.
I love listening to Richard Dawkins. Thank you.
Most of Dawkin's interviews tread the same ground, and this went to new places. Subscribed!
Bill Lyons check out Dawkins’ recent podcast with Lex Friedman. That one def went to new places and great discussion.
@@karlosjeffers4791 Yep I'm subscribed to Lex's channel and I've watched the interview. There are many great thinkers on TH-cam these days, and we need them more than ever.
I love how humble Professor Dawkins was in his responses to some of the more difficult questions posed by you, Alex. Of course, a job well done by you. Brilliant work!
24:40 "you're being too philosophical" I don't know why but I love this.
You can’t possibly ask a philosophical question like that without properly explaining the grounds first. The point of language is to understand, not confuse.
@@tme98 the question was based ONLY on arguments made by Dawkins himself and the discussion before it. That particular question was the punchline. This is what I understood: Morality is something that evolved in us through natural selection. In other words, what we consider immoral/suffering is “bad” only because of how we evolved, morally. Rape is wrong today, again, because of how we evolved morally. Had we evolved differently morally speaking (like the anomalies / differences in finger number example), could we still consider rape as “bad” in that scenario? Dawkins said: yes, it would be bad because it causes suffering. Alex said: we only think of it as “suffering” because of how we evolved, but we could have evolved differently. (And this can go in circles).
That’s what Alex was asking. I don’t think Dawkins did not understand; he understood. He meant that Alex was pushing logic to an extent that is too theoretical / too philosophical, and there not enough relevance to real life. But the logic is definitely there.
@@IvanValdez2010 and yet there is relevence, whether there are objective truths or not
@@IvanValdez2010 well it's simple actually and dwarkings explained
it's an equivocation fallacy
there is no way sentient beings without evolving pleasure and reducing suffering will evolve as it would be impossible from a sentient being to pursue suffering yet be the fittest to survive
@@arianagrandaremix8858 I think it’s more relevant to discuss suffering in terms of one organism inflicting it on another and whether or not empathy is inherently good beyond the fact that it evolved to allow human cooperation. Causing oneself to suffer isn’t necessarily bad in that it reduces one chances of survival if one does not believe that survival and reproduction are better than death and extinction. One needs to assume that life is better existing than not existing if any of these evolutionary advantages are to be considered “good”by virtue of increasing survival and reproduction odds. It’s difficult to make an objective argument that life is better than no life.
Nice “crossover”, it’s good to see you doing a collab with Dawkins
I don't usually use the word "perfect", but this interview deserves. Alex showed himself an exquisite interviewer, asking brilliant questions and the newest work and ideas from Mr. Dawkins were well clarify.