The Last Leg ROAST Tory MP’s Speech About Dr Who And Male Role Models | The Last Leg
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- Adam, Josh and Alex pick apart Conservative MP Nick Fletcher’s controversial speech where he suggested having a female Dr Who was depriving young men of positive role models and turning them to crime.
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Its weird how women have been perfectly able to see male characters as role models for decades, but men aren't able to see female characters as role models for the last few years. There are so many female characters boys and men can use as role models, and until recently they were able to. For example: Sarah Connor, Ellen Ripley, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Ahsoka Tano, Xena, The Bride/Beatrix Kiddo, Dana Scully, Princess Leia, Hermione Granger, Wonder Woman, and Katniss Everdeen to name a few.
There is a theory that overt wokeness has over taken movie/tv producers, so the changing of male characters to female ones is a lot less about female empowerment and more about removing strong male characters. Not sure I believe in conspiracy theory's, but I will say the new Ghostbusters with an all female cast was shockingly bad.
@@Chaddlee That theory is of course pure bullshit. I wouldn't even call it female empowerment, more simply, more roles for women. People say Rey replaced Luke Skywalker in Star Wars, but Luke wasn't the main character in the prequels was he? He is the main character of the original trilogy, but Anakin is the main character of the prequel trilogy, and Rey is the main character of the sequel trilogy. The Doctor can regenerate into anything, even non human forms, so why not a female body? If Steve Rogers can lift Mjolnir, so can a worthy woman.
As for Ghostbusters, it was a bad script, it had nothing to do with the 4 ladies, I actually liked Kate McKinnon in the movie. There wasn't much female empowerment in that movie either, since anyone not part of the main 4 characters, including women, were behaving like idiots.
@@Trikeboy2 Since when can the Doctor regenerate into non-human forms? You sure about that?
@@OptimusGPrime Look up a timelord called Lord Cardinal Zero then get back to me.
If only young men had MP’s to look up to as a role model.
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Now - if they were really smart - when they cut to Adam's final monologue ending with the Priti slam, they would have replaced Josh with a female from the production crew....
Nick is right, when in a dilemma I always ask "What would Egon Spengler do?". I do wonder how Bond is a good role model...
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Cleopatra was also a woman who replaced a man in a position of power, Nick. As was Elizabeth I...and Elizabeth II.
There's a long list of queens who built better empires after the Kings that came before them nearly destroyed them, Nick. Are you talking about those guys as role models?
Theoretically if lack of those role models leads to crime, then changing to female would lessen crime stats since there are more females than males.
That’s the kind of nonsense we’re looking at here, that even if you imagine he’s right, he’s wrong.
So true, I liked David Lammy's tweet about it, really summed up the idiocy of the argument. I'm a massive Doctor Who fanboy and I understand that the Doctor is literally an alien and can change their entire body and personality, so having a female Doctor just makes sense after so many male Doctors.
You are supporting a gentleman whose favourite line is "are you having a go at me because I am black" when some one has a relevant question or wants to call him out for the rubbish he speaks.
@@nickssurplus I literally liked a tweet dude, it's not that deep
@@superdrwholock Yes you did and then you expanded on it
I thought David Lammys offensive and not needed.
The gentlemans whole attitude stinks.
The doctor is a positive male icon. And having a women sticks out like a saw thumb.
Also They didnt change gender in star wars, Ray was the new jedi taking over luke
And this is why I love you guys
Love you guys SO much!
🤔Pooh Bear is a Much better role model than everyone that was mentioned
As a young man can confirm- I went to see the new James Bond film last month and the second I saw that there was a female 007 I left the theatre and throat punched several old ladies
What a terrible thing to say 😂 he was asking for it
Don't forget Ryan Reynolds in that list Adam
And its like the master said in 10th doctor era said "human's begins, greatest monster's"
He could of had a worse speech. He could have messed up and talked about peppa pig world.
Henry Cavell should be the next James Bond
awesome video
You forgot the ultimate man’s man Brian Blessed 😃👍
About as satirical as a plague of opportunist mushroom spores. The facade of improvisation is the big laugh.
Yeah! How dare star wars put more female characters in the story, there was already Princess Leia and Luke's aunt who spoke maybe a few words. Surely that enough! I mean, when a few more female characters were added to Star Wars, I felt like THAT was Satan at work!
And Mon Mothma.
"If it's not in a film, it doesn't count"
@@CrashSable Who said that??
@@sjn7688 You! Star Wars has had important female characters for decades - they were just in the books.
Which Disney ignored because it was SO IMPORTANT to put Rey on screen. It's not as if anyone would relate to Mara-Jade, Cilghal, Saba, Tresina Lobi, Octa Ramis, Jaina, Tahiri Vela, Mirax Terrik, Meetra Surik, Satele Shan or Dao Stryver.
seven lmao
I think you were the seventh comment on this video
10/10 timing
I'm hoping this was a bigger joke than these comments suggest. It's 3 guys hahaha
Also we havent seen luke skywalker has a women (yet) i mean gender swapping should be bannned from media, i dont mind they switch it if it a charecter i dont like.
Yeah, I've been doing nothing but cocaine smuggling and contempt of court ever since Sandi Toksvig became the host of QI.
Awkward Re:Iron man...
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There is a legitimate point with regards to Dr Who as a role model, as it was weirdly unique as a male protagonist who finds a non-violent solution to issues. This is especially relevant with the criticisms of "toxic masculinity". Of course, Nick Fletcher missed that subtlety completely with his pseudo anti-woke nonsense.
I'll try to make a long story short. I spent a big chunk of my childhood in hospital, and Dr Who ( Pertwee was my first, but Baker was the first I saw from regeneration to regeneration ) became a magical escape for a sick little boy. I was gutted in 89 when the show was cancelled, and absolutely giddy when I heard Eccleston was bringing it back in 05, although I'd argue Tennant became the second best doctor after Baker.. I digress. Anyway, I watched Smith and felt bad for him, given the quality of garbage that Moffatt gave him, and finally gave up after Capaldi's first season. The show is dead to me now, and I don't think even Russell Davies can revive it - but the doctor will be a woman forever more, because no-one is going to flush their career by suggesting that a woman wasn't good enough. I read quite a bit of hate about Whittaker's run, but never watched any of it, because the show had lost me years before. Sorry, I did say I'd TRY to make it short..
Yeah… I mean there’s only THIRTEEN other male doctors to look back on as a role model…
Except young women had been looking up to the male Doctor for decades as a role model, and no doubt young boys are fully capable of looking up to the 13th Doctor in the same way. If changing the gender of the Doctor removes the only prominant example of a nonviolent or nontoxic masculine protagonist from our screens, that's a pretty damning indictment of how much work needs to be done in improving the writing of virtually all other male role models in fiction elsewhere.
@@sambkingmusic nail hit squarely on the head 👏🏻
@@sambkingmusic Doctor Who is the worst case to argue this issue. The Doctor is an alien regenerating being who somehow always ends up as a white british bloke, never made much sense to begin with (as much as I have enjoyed the show). With a female James Bond it's not that I don't think you couldn't have a female James Bond, it's more a question of originality. If feminists wish to create female role models, I'm absolutely fine with it. I just hate the constant regurgitation of movie franchises that have been done, done again and done to death. Why not come up with an original story, with an original female hero, instead of taking a well-defined character and reappropriating them for your own agenda? That just feels lazy and uninspired (and yes that goes for any new instalment of these endless repetitious plots involving cringeworthy innuendo and badly scripted villains, whether it's a male or female anachronism playing the lead).
I'm a bisexual male who loves 80s trashy horror flicks. I recently read they're turning Child's Play into a netflix show, in which Chucky's owner will be a boy who is being bullied for being gay, and Chucky's going to help him respect himself more, and beat the bullies. First of all: The original Chucky is an evil serial killer trapped in a doll's body because of a voodoo charm gone wrong. What he wants to do is take over a human body by killing it, and become a real human being again. He's not Santa Clause, folks. Next up, a remake of Silence of the Lambs in which Hannibal the Cannibal teaches an obese child about healthy cooking, and Freddie Krueger teaching a depressed child to dare to dream. Secondly: Why? Other than wanting to make millions of dollars without the need to be creative, what is the point of any of these endlessly worsening copies of a once brilliant movie? Why do we keep putting up with this unoriginal unimaginitive crap?
You want a movie with a classic character and a strong female lead? Make this then: In a land of endless opportunity, one woman has the guts to fight the british empire and claim freedom. Uma Thurman is... George Washington. I'd pay to go and see that.
Margaret Thatcher replaced Ted Heath
I do think sometimes the point that paying lip service to women by taking established characters and just giving them a gender swap is lazy and pathetic. It's just saying "here you go women, here are female versions of the films we made with men in them". Can't be many original scripts with female led characters, also written by women......oh what's that, they'll be loads overlooked just to pump out another rehashed hit? Sounds about right. The TV and Film industry is crazy atm.
Bruh this is infinitely more nuance than The Last Leg could handle.
@@ginge641 I disagree. I don't know about Josh - Alex, but Adam is definitely a feminist & he's intelligent.
@@angelaburrow8114 Adam's a complete tool who uses this show as an excuse to spout his propaganda. Him being a feminist doesn't make him intelligent. Quite the opposite, in his case.
@@ginge641 They have more nuance then you currently do. There is no "propaganda". You're making shit up just to prove a point.
@ Actual playground level comeback.
"We still have Thor......."
Who wants to tell him?
Thor is being replaced by a lass too
@@nickssurplus
Their a lady thor in the comics
Give it a few months I am sure channel 4 already has your replacement female host lined up for the last leg.
Hate to be a pendant....
Actually, that's a lie.
Sherlock Holmes, Captain America, Wolverine, Spider-Man,Thor, and arguably Iron Man have all had female variants. Dwayne Johnson in Jumanji as well
Enola Holmes, captain Carter, x2, spider woman, Jane foster and iron heart didn’t replace the original characters. Look at all the different male robins, or green lanterns, or dr. Who’s. There’s still a good chance they will be replaced with another male character rather than a female. Just look at the multiverse versions of those marvel characters
@@wuckf1t you do realise that these characters were created to cater to a small crowd, to virtue signal or to diminish the original male characters. Captain Carter was portrayed as a better Captain America in What If and managed to save Bucky when Steve couldn't, Iron Heart is a blander version of Iron Man who made her Iron suit better because why not, they made Robin gay (I know they said bisexual but let's not pretend we don't know why), John Kent is gay too, and the Doctor was not just made a female, but the past incarnations were now replaced with females, people of colour or both for no reason, even though they didn't need to because women and people of colour already loved the show, and did not need to be pandered to. They didn't make female characters or race swapped characters to appeal to a new audience, they did this to virtue signal and pander to an audience who are unlikely to watch their crap anyway.
@@savestate6360 you say that like all 6 robins, all 7 green lanterns, miles morales, aren’t great characters on their own. They made Lucius fox son Batman, and that’s an interesting character despite a different complexion or whatever. Same with the last couple green lanterns, one a black police officer and one a Latina woman, but they’re still both different characters. Even John Stewart was in interesting character to put against hal and guy/ other green lanterns etc. And miles morales in the main protagonist in the best Spider-Man film, so obviously variations work. We wouldn’t have the multiverse if the public didn’t want different versions of characters. How else do you expect comic books and media as a whole to stay fresh without change? There’s a reason Craig bond was so well received, because it was different. That character was supposed to reflect the negatives of toxic masculinity and shallow national insecurity like the original novels. Having that new 007 in no time to die, again, was there to make james question himself, to sow seeds of doubt, those insecurities already shown in quantum and skyfall. I’ve only picked a handful of examples, you still think characters are shallow because they change genders or race?🤨 sure mate.
@@wuckf1t yes, because you should make original characters instead of taking others then race/gender swap them to make an unoriginal character. You talk about the comics, however you haven't talked about the failing numbers. Earlier this year, we had noticed that YA novels and manga had been added to the list of comic sales to make it look like the comic book industry is soaring, but DC and Marvel have been struggling for years, only managing to make over 100,000 in sales, while Demon Slayer is dominating. Miles Morales is good in the movie... but people don't like his books, his main criticism is that "he's a tokenised Spiderman" (FYI, this criticism was said by a black man), as well being uninteresting and unoriginal. You also just stated about the race and gender about these heroes and not their personality, but hey, you actually are starting to think like an employee at DC and Marvel.
@@savestate6360 you’re acting like they’re not original characters taking up the same mantle? All the green lanterns are very distinct, two of them even changed rings. All the robins are their own intricate characters, hence why they all go by different names apart from Damien etc. Again, miles morales only comparison with Peter Parker is that he has the same abilities and chose to become Spider-Man. There’s so much personality to that character if you just look to the film and game he’s in. These are original intricate characters, just taking the same job. You either lack knowledge of source material, or are actively ignorant of it. Again, the multiverse wouldn’t be a thing if people didn’t like/ want different characters in the same roles
Janet Bond 88 might be a thing
Mp is right.
And luke skywalker isnt a women (yet), Ghostbusters 2016 their not the same charecters they have diffrent names.
Did it hurt when you were dropped on your head as a baby?
You know you've just contradicted yourself in your own comment?
@@dpalmerama
You do relased their never a ghostbusters 3 Cause billy murry ego
On dan Akyrod until harold ramis passed away and then Jason Riteman said "okay no women were gong to do Afterlife and simply make this has a continuation of the first movie"
"Luke Skywalker wasn't replaced. He's still in all the films."
How to tell everyone that you've not seen Star Wars without saying you've not seen Star Wars.
Two different characters though
@@wuckf1t Luke and Rey? Sure, they only grew up on identical-looking planets, dress exactly the same, use the same lightsaber, many of the exact same story beats and go by the name "Skywalker".
Rey is a straight up gender swapped copy paste of Luke written by people without even half the talent of those that wrote for Luke.
@@ginge641 facepalm
Rey and Luke have a lot of surface-level aesthetic similarities - so I suppose if your media literacy is so poor that your understanding of stories never goes beyond the surface, they would seem like carbon copies for sure. But in reality, both of those characters have very different character arcs, different personalities, and different drives and motivations.
But crucially, Luke wasn't replaced by a woman. The character of Luke appears in some capacity in all three of the sequel films, and has his own seperate and independent character arc that develops his character further from the Return of the Jedi. That's not a replacement. It's not a recasting. It's a shift of focus, which is not the same thing.
@@sambkingmusic True, it's 100% not the same thing as The Doctor or anything similar. However, when a character is assassinated and turned into a mockery of his former self, dies, and is replaced by someone with such a similar origin and story arc, who even takes his sodding name at the end, I have a tendency to call that replacement, of a kind.
Is it OK that an Aussie pretends to be English and comments on English politics?
Yes. He lives in London lol
As far as I know Adam splits his year between Australia & England, the pandemic has had an effect, his family stays in Melbourne. He was back in Australia earlier this year making comments about the time he has spent in Quarantine and also did a rew episodes of the last leg from his home in Melbourne. And remember the last leg started as light relief for the London paralympics and tories are dicks!
So Marvel only do female role models??
less funny and more woke might seem like good idea around the boardroom table but I think it's downhill from here
You clearly don't understand what "woke" means lol
Dear wokes … as the police, prison and parole services have become more feminine and full of female employees … the worse each service gets
My Female Role Models: Gina Carano, Margaret Thatcher, Candace Owens