Man what can be said that hasn't already been said regarding THRILLER. This album was and is the greatest selling album ever and MJ broke the mold when this was created for so many artists including his peers. We still owe this album so much respect and gratitude for what it did for MJ, our favorite artists, and us individually.
Thanks for mentioning the YMO collaboration. As a big YMO fan it really tripped me out to listen to that collaboration. Since I've listened to the version of that song that they wound up releasing on their own so many times, it's kind of hard for me to pretend I haven't heard it and just imagine that as being the end result. It sort of sounds like a demo to me (granted, a really good demo since MJ's vocals are always great,) or perhaps a first step towards bridging the YMO song with what MJ/Jones/Sweiden would've added on top, and then proceed to flesh out. Anyways, it seems like an interesting potential topic, or meditation, type of series that you would be good at. There's a lot of songs out there where 1 person wrote something, and perhaps we have their demo or finished version of it, but then another person released it and that is the version most people know. Or, there's even occasions where someone writes a song, records it, doesn't care for it, puts it on the back burner, and then several years later takes another go at it, and voila. Since you do a great job of showing how the various technologies, recording approaches, etc. work to help people connect the dots, it seems like this exercise in comparing how 2 different people approach mixing/mastering something is not only something you would be good at and possibly enjoy, but it also might make another good (and potentially popular) series within your channel. Heck, you could even do things like comparing how 2 different people mixed things like Let It Be, for example, with the video ultimately culminating in a reflection of what we can learn from the 2 different approaches, what seems to work better, why, etc. In any case, whether or not you like any of those ideas- this channel rocks! Thanks for making such a great resource of info available for all us mixing/mastering noobies.
Bruce Swedien avoided using Compressor as much as possible. I remember him often referring to it as “a child's toy. Ryuichi Sakamoto, who was a member of Yellow Magic Orchestra, said in a radio program that he regretted that he should have provided “behind the mask” in later years.
Truly a music industry stimulus package, as credited by Michael himself. An album where there were no b-sides but rather 7 top ten pop hit singles, brilliant cross-marketing with the McCartney duets, the advent of MTV and their initial reluctance to feature a black solo video until they provided like a million-five for the making of Thriller, and lastly the Motown 25 show.
Anthony Marrenilli is an absolute genius as eell as being a genuinely nice guy. Btw it wasn't the Casio MT 60 but the casio 401 because of the outputs needed for recording.
I took a masterclass with Ndugu Chancellor back in the late 90s and he talked about recording this track. He mentioned that he was using a prototype Remo Kevlar head on the snare…which to me explains a lot of that iconic snare sound.
I did an interview with Bruce Swedien for an article I wrote for Mix Magazine. I have it on cassette somewhere in my files. I need to dig it up and put it on YT.
Here's a curiosity: Michael Jackson used to demo his songs all with his voice; that means drum beats and orchestration were recorded on a cassette player all by his voice. Check out the video "Beat it (Demo)" here on TH-cam, it's kind of funny.
His Album was intended to be smooth follow up to his first but was so good it got re-issued after it was making massive sales! It had everything on it! For me there were only 2 Albums I could listen to all the way through at that time Thriller & 1999 when they came out ! And a year or two earlier it was Rick James Street Songs
Michael’s best work The Thriller album Michael wanted to make sure that album will hit its mark and it did his best selling album of all time selling 32 million copies worldwide.
Excellent overview of this landmark in time and popular culture. Is there any behind the scenes video of Michael laying down the vocal tracks during the recording of the album? I find the "creation" of music or an incredible album fascinating.
The takeaway is the amount of people that worked on this album. Even Michael's later albums didn't have this amount of session musicians and you can tell
@@andndmmcmnf1321 the Time are are side project of Prince. He usually wrote the tune, recorded all the parts, then had Morris Day replace his guide vocal.
@andndmmcmnf1321 Prince wrote and recorded all the Time music and melodies. Only Morris Day's voice was added to all the the tracks. Hence Prince is The Time.
Odd seeing a brown Micheal before the bleaching and heavy facial reconstruction. Helluva artist. The audio quality for his records is just awe inspiring. Also wild to see how black artists were ignored on music charts.
LETS JUST SAY MICHAEL WAS BORN TO SING AND DANCE HE WAS ULTRA OBSERVANT FROM HIS HISTORICAL YOUTH…..AND IN TIME THIS MEGAWATT ENTERTAINER TALENTED WRITER .. PRODUCER….. AND DANCER DE’EXTRODINARE GOT WITH THE BRST IN THE INDUSTRY AND THE REST IS HISTORY‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️…..40yrs. Later and this Alblum is STILL SELLING ‼️👀…..✨✨….ONE THING IS CLEAR YA INLY GET ONE MICHEAL…..💫💫💫💫💫⭐️⭐️⭐️💫💫💫☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️🌎🌎🌎🌎🌎🌎🌎🌎🌎🌎
The bass was played on the Arp 2600. Here's Anthony Marinelli who programmed the sound explaining how he did it. th-cam.com/video/jkJVim4X9C4/w-d-xo.html
My favorite channel. I’m trying to figure out which snare Leon Chancler played on Billie Jean. It sounds like an Acrolite, but probably a wood snare was used. The hoop in that picture is brass.
Thank you! I don’t think that’s Leon’s set up as it was a picture Bruce shared later on to show what he did. It’s a great snare sound either way but it would be great to know what it was.
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Can you show the original images and stop using the AI upscaling please? It really takes away from the authenticity of the images and lakes everyone look smeary and messed up their eyes
As far as the album being written by someone else, Michael definitely contributed to over half of those songs in the songwriting process. But yes, there were other songwriters on the album. It's not rare at all for music to be made in a collaborative kind of way
@@KenfenitThe song Thriller was not a number 1 single in the USA. It peaked at #4 on the hot 100. Worldwide it hit number one in less than 10 countries. The album however was a massive number one!
The Thriller album helped reinvigorate the music industry. It deserves to be called the best selling album of all time.
*One of many, yes*
Isn’t it?
It is @@Gregsouththageneral
It deserved to be called the best selling album of all time because it is.
@@HypnoticHollywood In the US, RIAA has Eagles Greatest Hits as #1.
Thriller was made in mind to have (arguably) every track a hit, and they damn did!
Let's not get carried away now
You lie
*The majority, but not ALL of them*
@@leelostickun5528 In interviews Michael himself said he intended for every song on Thriller to be a hit single.
@@Sneakycat1971 In interviews Michael himself said he intended for every song on Thriller to be a hit single.
These have quickly become among my favourite videos on TH-cam. Awesome work sir, keep them coming please.
Thank you! :-)
The face of Lukater looking at Paul is priceless
Agreed! Was thinking the same thing!?
Man what can be said that hasn't already been said regarding THRILLER. This album was and is the greatest selling album ever and MJ broke the mold when this was created for so many artists including his peers. We still owe this album so much respect and gratitude for what it did for MJ, our favorite artists, and us individually.
En especial me gusta ver a Michael en donde le gustaba estar,en un estudio de grabación,se lo veía tan feliz
Thanks for mentioning the YMO collaboration. As a big YMO fan it really tripped me out to listen to that collaboration. Since I've listened to the version of that song that they wound up releasing on their own so many times, it's kind of hard for me to pretend I haven't heard it and just imagine that as being the end result. It sort of sounds like a demo to me (granted, a really good demo since MJ's vocals are always great,) or perhaps a first step towards bridging the YMO song with what MJ/Jones/Sweiden would've added on top, and then proceed to flesh out. Anyways, it seems like an interesting potential topic, or meditation, type of series that you would be good at. There's a lot of songs out there where 1 person wrote something, and perhaps we have their demo or finished version of it, but then another person released it and that is the version most people know. Or, there's even occasions where someone writes a song, records it, doesn't care for it, puts it on the back burner, and then several years later takes another go at it, and voila. Since you do a great job of showing how the various technologies, recording approaches, etc. work to help people connect the dots, it seems like this exercise in comparing how 2 different people approach mixing/mastering something is not only something you would be good at and possibly enjoy, but it also might make another good (and potentially popular) series within your channel. Heck, you could even do things like comparing how 2 different people mixed things like Let It Be, for example, with the video ultimately culminating in a reflection of what we can learn from the 2 different approaches, what seems to work better, why, etc. In any case, whether or not you like any of those ideas- this channel rocks! Thanks for making such a great resource of info available for all us mixing/mastering noobies.
This is really well made. Subscribed!
Thank you! 😃
Fantastic summary. Probably the best I've heard.
Thank you!
Michael Jackson king of pop king of great tracks!
Bruce Swedien avoided using Compressor as much as possible. I remember him often referring to it as “a child's toy.
Ryuichi Sakamoto, who was a member of Yellow Magic Orchestra, said in a radio program that he regretted that he should have provided “behind the mask” in later years.
Truly a music industry stimulus package, as credited by Michael himself. An album where there were no b-sides but rather 7 top ten pop hit singles, brilliant cross-marketing with the McCartney duets, the advent of MTV and their initial reluctance to feature a black solo video until they provided like a million-five for the making of Thriller, and lastly the Motown 25 show.
The engineer on Thriller was exceptionally brilliant.
Yes it's Friday! That means only one thing. 15 mins of audio bliss!
Thank you! 😃
Anthony Marrenilli is an absolute genius as eell as being a genuinely nice guy.
Btw it wasn't the Casio MT 60 but the casio 401 because of the outputs needed for recording.
I took a masterclass with Ndugu Chancellor back in the late 90s and he talked about recording this track. He mentioned that he was using a prototype Remo Kevlar head on the snare…which to me explains a lot of that iconic snare sound.
Great information, thank you! Did he say what snare it was?
@@mixingmasteringonline He didn’t - but he was a Yamaha artist so…maybe that. I’m sure he had a nice collection of studio snares to play with.
this was the first time quality in terms of production metbwith quantity in terms of record sales kudos to Q and the A team❤
met with massiv record sales i meant
I did an interview with Bruce Swedien for an article I wrote for Mix Magazine. I have it on cassette somewhere in my files. I need to dig it up and put it on YT.
Definitely, that would be great to hear!
@@mixingmasteringonline I’ll see if I can dig it up. It’s specifically about Thriller album and/ several tracks.
Excellent, I hope you can find it 🤞
Great choice for this video. Killed it 🤙
Thank you! 😃
Amazing video ...more like this please. Inspirational.
Thank you! Definitely more to come!
Brilliant video of the very detailed history of Thriller.
Thank you!
Here's a curiosity: Michael Jackson used to demo his songs all with his voice; that means drum beats and orchestration were recorded on a cassette player all by his voice.
Check out the video "Beat it (Demo)" here on TH-cam, it's kind of funny.
His Album was intended to be smooth follow up to his first but was so good it got re-issued after it was making massive sales! It had everything on it! For me there were only 2 Albums I could listen to all the way through at that time Thriller & 1999 when they came out ! And a year or two earlier it was Rick James Street Songs
Guinness Book of World Record!
Michael’s best work The Thriller album Michael wanted to make sure that album will hit its mark and it did his best selling album of all time selling 32 million copies worldwide.
Excellent overview of this landmark in time and popular culture. Is there any behind the scenes video of Michael laying down the vocal tracks during the recording of the album? I find the "creation" of music or an incredible album fascinating.
Thank you!
I read Bruce Swedien’s book years ago.
Wonderful
Thank you!
P.Y.T. was a James Ingram ballad demo that Quincy had heard. Quincy and the team rewrote and rearranged the song into its current form.
The sound of Mineapolis, specially "The Time", was created by Prince.
The takeaway is the amount of people that worked on this album. Even Michael's later albums didn't have this amount of session musicians and you can tell
"Recording with Paul was so exciting that... I BOUGHT HIS MUSIC CATALOGUE!!!"
😅 and he really wasn’t happy about it..
The Time IS Prince.
Huh?
@@andndmmcmnf1321 the Time are are side project of Prince. He usually wrote the tune, recorded all the parts, then had Morris Day replace his guide vocal.
@andndmmcmnf1321 Prince wrote and recorded all the Time music and melodies. Only Morris Day's voice was added to all the the tracks.
Hence Prince is The Time.
So glad I didn't have to long to search for this comment.
Just this morning on my drive to work Thrilla came up on my play list. I turned it up so loud, me ears were bleeding.
It was Westlake Studios A, not oceanway.
Totally, I don’t why I said Ocean Way, was mixing up another script there I think.
Bruce liked the sound of the Harrison console at Westlake.
@@mixingmasteringonline Would be 🔥if you corrected it, kind of an important detail...
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Odd seeing a brown Micheal before the bleaching and heavy facial reconstruction. Helluva artist. The audio quality for his records is just awe inspiring.
Also wild to see how black artists were ignored on music charts.
Bleaching? The dude had vitiligo and discoid lupus. How do you not know that
LETS JUST SAY MICHAEL WAS BORN TO SING AND DANCE HE WAS ULTRA OBSERVANT FROM HIS HISTORICAL YOUTH…..AND IN TIME THIS MEGAWATT ENTERTAINER TALENTED WRITER .. PRODUCER….. AND DANCER DE’EXTRODINARE GOT WITH THE BRST IN THE INDUSTRY AND THE REST IS HISTORY‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️…..40yrs. Later and this Alblum is STILL SELLING ‼️👀…..✨✨….ONE THING IS CLEAR YA INLY GET ONE MICHEAL…..💫💫💫💫💫⭐️⭐️⭐️💫💫💫☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️🌎🌎🌎🌎🌎🌎🌎🌎🌎🌎
When you were talking about what synths were used on the song Thriller, the Jupiter-8 were used as the bass not the ARP 2600.
The bass was played on the Arp 2600. Here's Anthony Marinelli who programmed the sound explaining how he did it. th-cam.com/video/jkJVim4X9C4/w-d-xo.html
My favorite channel. I’m trying to figure out which snare Leon Chancler played on Billie Jean. It sounds like an Acrolite, but probably a wood snare was used. The hoop in that picture is brass.
Thank you! I don’t think that’s Leon’s set up as it was a picture Bruce shared later on to show what he did. It’s a great snare sound either way but it would be great to know what it was.
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A chip without dip,
Surf without turf,
Jails without cells.
Schools without rules,
Ben without Jen,
Mike without Ike
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Love that, thank you! 🙂
3:27 No. The bassline has been played on the Jupitee 8.
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What was used to Master it?
It was mastered by Bernie Grundman. I don't know his set up at the time though.
Overdubs were being recorded the morning the tapes were going to mastering???????? That means they had to be mixed right after being recorded.
Can you show the original images and stop using the AI upscaling please? It really takes away from the authenticity of the images and lakes everyone look smeary and messed up their eyes
Prince's 1999 double album was the best of the best CLASSIC and should have been #1 on the billboards back in the day.....
The AI-"enhanced" images are annoying and obvious. Please just use the original images!
I was today years old when I found out that Thriller was written by someone else and it didn’t hit No.1 😮
Wym? lol Thriller went #1 in nearly 15 countries. Also peaked atop the billboard 200
As far as the album being written by someone else, Michael definitely contributed to over half of those songs in the songwriting process. But yes, there were other songwriters on the album. It's not rare at all for music to be made in a collaborative kind of way
@@KenfenitThe song Thriller was not a number 1 single in the USA. It peaked at #4 on the hot 100. Worldwide it hit number one in less than 10 countries. The album however was a massive number one!
@@Kenfenit I’m talking about Thriller the song.
the music industry was NOT in decline ffs, where did you hear that?
There's plenty of information about it.
www.billboard.com/pro/michael-jackson-thriller-40-impact-music-industry-execs/
What's your next video Gary glitter 😂
Just commenting for the algo.
Nice, thank you!