What is there to say about this person beyond what you said? "I am so important to the world, and my words carry so much weight that I will be silent so as not to disrupt the peace process." It is laughable.
@@famalam943 So the Golden Ae of Islam the brought light to the Dark ages of Europe where a king only bathed once a month and brought coffee, universities, seeking of knowledge trade and all the good stuff that Islam had done doesn't count right,,, just ISIS which is a blip considering when you compare the crusades, Leonard in Congo, Aborignies in Australia, or Spanish inquisitions or Holocoast or or or or .... See you're only repeating the zioniat legacy media narrative..look at the big picture and be more dialectic in your thinking...if you actually have the courage to compare Islam to other civilisations and religions..you'd be shocked about how misinformed about Islam....if I only teach you the negative things about one people and tell you all the good about the other leaving the good of the first and the bad of the latter.
@@mobilusinmobili8321 and yet idiots only see it as a bad thing if Islam does it. Apparently it's a good thing when everyone else does it - as long as hey're not socialists, of course. Your whataboutism is ironically the very issue at hand.
@@bengreen171 No, its just that none of you condemned them for any number of genocides theyve committed. So your fake outrage about Israel is easily dismissed when you cannot prove me wrong. Ya tried...
It's borderline but I really hope the closet racists out there don't jump on the opportunity for antisemitism, Having said that I absolutely love what you did because there's lot of truths in what you said. Albeit at risks of our Jewish Brothers and sisters name being tarnished.
Well he is at least the internationally successful within his field sibling, but I don't think you have to be "sane" to be a internationally renowned physicist.
@@firefly9838 People should watch the whole thing, I agree, especially if they're tearing it down so confidently. But there's no larger context in which using the term "Palestinians" is a deal-breaker for conversation. Calling them anything else actively confuses the discussion for no good reason. And there's no larger context in which "occupied territory" is inappropriate to use in this case. When one people (or two, including Egypt) controls another's food, water, medicine, fuel, electricity, ports, economy and political fate, and bombs their property at will without ever compensating them for the damage or loss of life, they're occupying that territory. When someone begins ANY segment of their analysis with "I don't recognize these two terms," the rest of what they say can't possibly explain away that level of denial / ignorance / lunacy.
I can't say I've ever seen two people more infatuated with their own words than the Weinstein bros, as if every line they drop is the most profound, previously unarticulated thought in history and we should be grateful to witness it.
@@bthorson7979You have to throw the fast-talking Ben Shapiro in there as well. Shame about Jordan. He used to actually make sense. Then it all got to his head, then he got sick and off the deep end.
@adamesd3699 Jordan started to sound silly when he decided to branch outside his wheelhouse. When I heard him suggest that the Abraham Accord was a viable answer to the Middle East conflict , I knew he was off his rocker.
As always, Sam is right on the money. The Weinstein dude revealed his thoughts on the matter the very moment he said that he doesn't want to speak to anybody who uses language like 'Palestinian', 'Occupation', 'Settler', etc. He has clearly decided his stance on the subject already but keeping it out of the public discourse, just cowardly pretending to be apathetic and indifferent to it.
I've watched about 40% of this long ass podcast and plan to watch the rest tomorrow. It's really interesting and while *so far* I've found Eric Weinstein difficult to follow in relation to Sam Harris and, in a few places, borderline incoherent, you are not characterizing his point fairly. He was not trying to eliminate the language of one side of the conflict, as you are suggesting, but rather pointing out the point of view of the speaker can be determined merely by the vocabulary they choose to emphasize. Frankly, it's not a particularly impressive observation, true though it may be. And to the extent that he doesn't want to engage with people who use that terminology, he includes the pro-Israeli side. But it's moot as his appearance on this podcast means he absolutely will talk to people whose vocabulary tips off their stance. I agree with you that Weinstein's aloofness(and his brother's for that matter, regardless of how badly he was wronged by Evergreen) is annoying and suspicious. He goes out of his way to obfuscate his opinions whereas Sam Harris is very clear about what he believes.
To object even to the word Palestinian is pretty extreme. But let's just say Judea and Samaria. What do we do with the "just Arabs" of "no nation state" who live there anyway?
He said a ‘peace process is something you have to lie your way through, in order to get what you want out of it. And once he didn’t get what he wanted and the ‘peace process’ was over…wtf kind of scum bag is this? And his false equivalencies, his bad faith arguments…disgusting. Israel has really changed over the last several decades. I can’t support this crap any longer.
@@gregchavez1534 What “pro Israeli” side uses the terms occupation and settler? It’s a disingenuous and lazy way to try and discredit an argument before even engaging with it.
Hey so I'm going to be living on your first floor now but you and your family can chill in the attic. What you're refusing housing? It's like you don't want a place to live
I literally sat here speaking out loud to myself that this guy looks like that character from Halloween or Friday the 13th or whatever it was. Spot on. Absolute ghoul.
In another portion of the conversation, he suggested that, instead of bombing Gaza, Israel should keep annexing Palestinian territory until the hostages get released. What's dumb about that is that Israel has already de facto annexed the West Bank since they give themselves the right to take military action anywhere on that territory and to displace anyone they want. Also, an annexation only becomes legitimate if it's internationally recognized. And, given that not even the US is likely to recognize such a move, it would be no different from Russia declaring a annexation of Ukrainian regions in order to force a settlement on their terms.
I saw the podcast and that's not what he said. He said after this they should do some sort of two state And everytime hamas fires a rocker...then they annex the chunk of territory It's a dumb solution regardless for some reasons you point...but different to how you describe it The hostages being returned (and I assume even Hamas being deposed) were baked in
@@jds614Israel fear Palestinian peace offensive more than anything. They will find away to provoke the Palestinians like killing their children to make them react
I loved when Emma started to do an impersonation of college students at the beginning of this clip. Don’t cut her off, Sam. You gotta let her riff sometimes.
@@hahahahaha662 I mean, most of us have friends and family like this. Imagine that dynamic, magnified within the context of a show that primarily features the commentary of a single member of a friend group or family. It’s bound to happen. I’m sure she finds it annoying but doubt she really has any resentment for Sam for that. Who knows.
the whole israel palestine debate blows my mind when it comes to legitimizing the israel position. Imagine if people who descended from trans alpine gauls going to germany and france and simply claiming that it was theirs because 3000 years ago they had an empire there. That's not how the world works, for better or worse.
That goes in both ways Anatolia was populated by Greek people from at least 1600 bce, then the Truks expelled them and that was hundreds of years ago and everyone including this show laughs at the idea of the greek dependents wanting their ancestral homeland back. They were the indigenous people until they got expelled and then after enough time passed they are no longer indigenous. That is the long game of Israel, eventually the rest of the world will tell the Palestinians to move on both with their lives and from the region.
I didn't really appreciate him shutting down his colleagues input on the return to Africa analogy. Matt in particular, but Emma as well as much more articulate than he is, he should let them contribute
In Islam you say thank god, not only after a positive experience, but also negative ones to imply that it’s god’s will. It’s an indirect way of counting your blessings in times of struggle.
Glorifying martyrdom helps you cope with a great loss. It can also help a resistance fighter be fearless in battle. Palestinians in Gaza have known only death for generations. For them to be glorifying martyrdom is sad but unsurprising. Weinstein wants to use that sad reality to make them sound monstrous to inflict even more death on them.
You two make so many great points . My Palestinian Gazoe husband loves listening to your show! He lost 36 family so far but his building is still standing
Much respect to Eric for keeping his silence during peace talks. One word from Eric might have seen the negotiating teams immediately checking out and hitting the tarmac. In fact, I think Eric deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for his critical silence. If only other great world figures would show such discretion.
I consider myself centre-left and am actually a fan of the Triggernometary podcast but their take on the recent escelation in the conflict has been really dissapointing and for people that pride themselves on being completely impartial centerists its been ridiculously pro-Israel. Before this episode with Sam Harris and Eric Weinstein they had Bari Weiss on, all massively pro-Israel, with no Palestinian side to the argument. Konstantin, the skinny host, did a short video where he said October 7th was the day wokeness died. It's like how the fuck does this conflict have anything to do with wokeness, especially when the most 'woke' tactic of identity politics is being used unapologetically and unironically by pro-Israel people
I mean if you are a centrist then you would be pro-israel because that is the status quo and that is really what makes a person a centrist. If I said I support this multi-decade official US foreign policy position, you wouldn't call me lefty or rightwiger you'd call me a centrist. Centrist doesn't mean non-bias in fact it just means a bias towards the established status quo.
I only ever watched Eric talk about mathematics and I never cared to hear him talk about other stuff because, well, his opinion about other stuff is essentially worthless, especially if his rhetoric about that other stuff is an attempt to convey some deep insight he ultimately doesn't have because his whole life has been spent being a mathematician, not a historian or a humanitarian or a philosopher, or a theologian. Then I watched a bit of him on Lex Fridman's podcast talking about the nature of good and evil, again, in a rhetorical manner that was attempting to convey he had extensive experience in the realm of moral philosophy. And it was just so absurd. Then I found out he was friends with Peter Thiel. Then I saw bits and pieces of him talking about wokeness and jumping on the "anti-woke" bandwagon. Now here he is here, talking about another thing which he knows less than nothing about. It's incredible to discover how multi-dimensionally braindead these people are after only initially hearing them talk about things actually within their academic wheelhouse.
I sincerely doubt that guy has the brain power necessary to be a good mathematician.. seems like a grifter to me. Keep in mind academics these days is way more about social skills, knowing how to appear smart and knowing how to convince people to fund your research, than it is about the substance of your work.
Until he agrees to respond in good faith to Tim Nguyen’s critique of his supposed TOE (which even if could work, wouldn’t qualify), it’s best to assume he’s a fraud in that department too.
He has interesting ideas but loses me by unnecessarily layering his main idea with many tangential ideas (which as an ADHD person, I sympathize, but I doubt he has ADHD). The hosts have to keep stopping to ask him what the hell he's talking about.
I've seen him on Rogan a few times, going on and on about theories and physics but mostly dancing around the topic sounding impressive without really making any direct point. He was implying he made some amazing insights but the world is too stupid for understanding him. He sounds a bit narcissistic and not a great communicator.
@@HammerStudioGamesjust hearing his voice makes me want to see him locked in a UFC cage with a heavyweight fighter. Eric is a total ghoul. Vile "human"
Some people have chosen to call the land Isreal, now I have gone along with this language, but that was when there was a peace process, since Isreal has declared that to be dead, I will no longer use this language, as far as I’m concerned the entire land is Palestine until the extremist Zionist decide to revive the peace process and let go of their genocidal ambitions
That comedian Matt (sorry, I didn't catch the surname) was awesome! I'm beginning to think politicians should be forced to listed to comedians critique their intended policies before putting them into legislation in order to remove the ridiculous beforehand. Bassem Yousef, former surgeon now comedian, has also done a great job of putting Israel/Gaza into perspective.
Wow, these host are insufferable. You can tell by their tones and their eagerness to attack that they take a pleasure out of being judgmental and condescending. Disappointing.
Sam Harris 100% intentionally did not use the coaster because he has a theory how objective morality implies that he would be a moral monster to use said coaster.
He isn't grifting, he legit believes this stuff. He literally gets invited and paid to participate in physics events around the world He is actually well respected within his profession. He also for real believes Israeli propaganda as if it was the truth
So Eric gets to say Palestinians "don't exist" but God forbid anyone says Israelis don't exist. You get locked up for that pretty much. The cognitive dissonance is frightening.
I didn't see him as shutting down anything, unfortunately. Weinstein has a several-minute rant about how awful terrorist violence is but how Israeli violence doesn't really count because it might be all a hoax done by the mothers. No one at all pushed back on either the justification of brutality or the conspiracy theorizing. He finally said "Israel can't figure out how to solve this problem (that they're totally innocent in because even the missiles they kill children with are Hamas's fault)," so the moderator stepped in to basically say "Ok, then, let's all brainstorm how we can advise angelic blameless Israel to best take care of the evil that everyone else is doing. Hmm, should we bomb more or just annex everything or just annex little pieces of innocent West Bank Palestinians' houses in punishment because of what some Hamas fighter that they've never met did?" So he didn't question Eric's nonsense, he sat by and listened to it without cutting in. He doesn't question the premise (Israel is the victim and civilians on the other side are irrelevant), and all of the ensuing talk is from the same genocidal mindset. He piped in to say "Ok, all of this is correct and true, Eric, now how do we use this truth in order to give Israel total victory here?"
@@SteveGellerMusic Perhaps "shot down" is giving the host too much credit, and maybe I'm misreading the interaction. Perhaps I'm projecting my own state of mind onto them, but to me it seemed like everyone listening to him looked uncomfortable and not really following his reasoning or finding what he said to be profound or a sophisticated analysis of the situation. I haven't seen the original video, but I took the hosts response here to mean "I heard all that and I didn't find it worthy of a response, let's move on". Again, this might just be me projecting my own mannerisms, but when someone says something nonsensical and wrong I often just acknowledge that they said something and try to move on rather than get derailed trying to dissect and refute it. Is it cowardice or mental exhaustion? I don't always know. I do acknowledge that when you broadcast your conversation like this, it's not good to leave these things at all ambiguous and to let these claims go completely unchallenged. If he did disagree, he should have at least said "I'm not completely on board with that characterization, but I'd like to move on".
@@somethingelse4424Ah. I think it is not impossible that the host simply wanted to move on because one of the panelists had spoken for a while and others might be waiting to speak. But I read it as "there's something you said you didn't know, so my job a as host is to open it up and let's see if we can collectively figure it out" rather than "your answer is nonsense but too silly to address." All of the people in in the room think that everyone else there is a brilliant scholar, because they all think of THEMSELVES as brilliant, and here comes another panelist that --looky there! agrees with them on everything, so they must be brilliant as well! After all, sheeple, Israel did nothing wrong and Muslims are evil and the real tragedy is that people can't just SAY these obvious things without censorship from the Great Woke Mob out there, so that's why it's so vital to bring together all of these geniuses onto one stage, and if any genius speaks too long, it diminishes the impact of the other geniuses. That's a long way from "I disagree with something you said," let alone "I'm challenging your argument with some pushback," which all of the TV hosts are immediately doing the second they hear something that disagrees with their already-formed stance on this subject. If Eric had said something like "Israel gets an Iron Dome, why shouldn't the Palestinian citizens get an Iron Dome as well, if we're trying to protect them?," the host and everyone on the panel would have "shot him down" for 40 straight minutes instead of calmly moving on.
@@MattHudsonAtx These guys, podcasters and all around geniuses learn by experience how to think on their feet and lie. It's kind of easy if you are very smart and good at oratory to start with. There are people who study these issues seriously, if you are not citing any of the references in a particular field or doing detailed work yourself and going through events in a thorough way, going through dates, people, following the money, etc, then it's pretty easy to tell when someone is full of hot air. just like eric weinstein is.
Eric Weinstein would be getting destroyed on Twitter spaces and would get upset over the persons tone with them rather than tackling what they’re actually saying. “Oh I like the tone you used with me I’ll try to do the same” the. Restate what he’s always been saying he’s a straight emotional wreck.
If you are smart you will be able to see through these clowns facade..Sam the clown accuses Weinstein of trying to create an argument that would make people less sympathetic to the images they see related to the conflict. However, it is important to note that Weinstein was discussing the complexity of the situation and the need to understand the various factors at play, rather than trying to diminish the impact of the images or the suffering of the people involved. Sams ignorant interpretation of Weinstein's statements appears to be a misrepresentation of his actual perspective.
You and those on Twitter lack the education and the IQ he has to destroy him or anyone else. All he has to do is focus on the fact that your level of intellect isn't good enough to construct a sentence properly. How a person writes tells a lot about their IQ.
@@antimediaman9354 Weinstein's implications are rooted on Islamophobia based on understanding of certain hadiths though anecdotal experience from other muslims about killing killing all jews and what the "river to the sea" actually means. He gets butt hurt when his ideas get completely dismantled.
Sam Harris agrees with Eric, and the other two are Konstantin Kisin, a Jewish comic, and Francis Foster, a former teacher turned comic. All are full onboard with the “omg Islam is so bad hurhurhur looks like you’re triggered”
it's amazing how the guys sitting right next to eric have no questions or sanity checks on his rambling spiraling insanity. harris for one isn't stupid enough to not see how incoherent weinstein is, yet he just sits there taking it in without losing his mind. I mean can you imagine sitting there next to eric and not have questions? like every sentence he lets out is so incoherently insane.
I can understand why someone would interpret some sort of ideological bent when someone says "occupied territories." I think it's dumb but I get it. But being triggered by the term "Palestinian" is something else. I simply don't understand why.
Can we retire the term Islamophobia? It's just sloppy. It's not a bad thing to have a fear of outdated, irrational doctrines. I also have Judeo-Christianophobia, Scientologyophobia, Mormonophobia.
Exactly, and adding 'phobia' to the word is a misnomer. A phobia is by definition an irrational fear of something. My fear of religion and the zeolites who follow it is grounded in well established reasons and definitely not irrational.
Just wanna say I was making that exact same argument Discord right at the start of this latest attack from Hamas of if American descendants of African slaves somehow knew specifically where their ancestors were taken from and decided to go and displace the existing population, the local population would be just as pissed as the Palestinians are and they would be justified in it. People who defend or make excuses for Israel simply do not care about the facts of the matter. In the ~7 or so years I've talked about it online (Discord, Reddit, and Twitter), I've never seen a single Israel supporter convinced by any argument. All I can conclude is that they're Islamophobic fascists, they don't care even a little about the suffering of Palestinians. Those who support Israel with any non-trivial amount of knowledge on the matter are outright genocidal. The hypothetical person who somehow just learned of Israel on October 7th might be able to be convinced by telling them even just the history of the region since the 90s, but anybody supporting Israel with more knowledge than that is too far gone. Like Michael said, it's not complicated; if you look at any amount of the history of the region, at the relative capabilities of Palestine and Israel, it becomes _very_ obvious what's going on there.
Calling everyone Islamophobic who criticizes the Islamic community is saying all criticism of Israel is antisemitism It’s just a way of blocking down legitimate concerns and criticism within political Islam or from Islamic countries Either it’s ok to criticize Israel and the Jewish community and it’s not antisemitic And it’s ok to criticize Muslim countries and the Islamic community and is not Islamophobic Or you can’t criticize Israel/jews or Muslim countries/ Muslims At all because both are racist Sam Seder is clearly a hypocrite on this issue and should be called out as such
Just my two cents as an "Arab" Algerian woman: "Arab" is mainly a geopolitical concept designating citizens of countries where Arabic is an official language. Many "Arabs" aren’t ethnically Arab - think North Africa and the Maghreb region specifically. Language is only one aspect of an ethnicity.
"It's not my language". OK, but is it accurate? Wow you can tell by the phrases someone is using what arguments they're gonna make? That's definitely not someone EVERYONE can do!
Emma didn't understand what "from the river to the sea" meant. I hope she reads the Hamas charter from 2017. It clarifies what it means. I think Israelis and Palestinians have people in power that don't want a two state solution. The West Bank settlements make a two state solution nearly impossible.
I don't even know what he's talking about with that. He's literally talking like Israel was there first and the Palestinians weren't happy getting half of someone else's land.
@@seeibe I thought they were both there but at the time deals were made with Britain for statehood (1915 - 1917) by all parties, the Muslim Arab population was the majority and the Jewish population was a minority.
@@RayKosby There was like less than 5% Jews there in the beginning who lived peacefully with the Muslims and Christians in the region. In the early 20th century more and more non-Arab Jews started coming from Europe and slowly taking over. It's a classic colonialist situation. The original Jewish population of the region has very little to do with it.
Copyright? Triggernometry is the fifth album from hardcore rap group Onyx, released on July 22, 2003, by D3 Entertainment. The whole album was produced by Kronic Tones. The album features appearances by American rappers T Hussle, Genovese, Begetz, X1, Bad Luck, Dirty Getinz. The album peaked at No. 66 on the Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums music chart.
Anyone calling Eric Weinstein a bigot must not be familiar with the man. I’ve heard hours of him talking, and I’ve never heard a shred of bigotry come out of his mouth. You might not agree with his take here, but what did he say that gives people the impression he’s bigoted against arabs or muslims? As someone with left wing politics myself, I’m consistently disappointed to hear the sanctimonious, bad faith takes on Sam Seder’s show. I remember him saying that the autistic Google engineer James Damore deserved to be fired because he said that women weren’t fit to work at the company, or some straw man interpretation like that. A little charity in trying to understand people with different viewpoints wouldn’t go astray, rather than dismissing and mocking them reflexively. I miss Michael Brooks.
I agree. I was hoping for more. This panel (Majority Report) is remarkably cynical. An example is the female cohost just concluded Eric Weinstein believes in “crisis actors.” I can’t imagine knowing his actual position and concluding that. I think I’m finished expecting anything else.
Also to note is that Ashkenazi Jews who make the majority of the Jews in the area now are descendants of converted Jews from Ashkenaz area of today's Turkey. They are not from Israel.
One of her favorite things to do is ridicule the word choices and podcast/show names of her opponents as if they, in and of themselves, are proof of moral and/or intellectual depravity. What hilarious is that she's an adult making arguments like a middle schooler.
Eric used to have sane takes, but unfortunately after that traumatic robbery he hasn't been the same. I mean, what would your take be if they stole your neck, huh? p.s. I always regard Sam Harris as the King of BS, but when the camera is on him, you can see it in his eyes that even he is not buying it.
No one forcefully removed Palestinians. They were offered plenty of time to create their own nation and refused. That's that... How do you think Muslims expanded all over? It was by force.
You love the cycle of violence and killings as that is what you love working for, and self delusional talk. Unlike Katie Halper and Norman Finkelstein thank you so much for your honesty and humanity, It's our Jewish Community brothers and sisters likewise that brings tears to my eyes, who work tirelessly for peace, In same token I try my best to eradicate anti semitism and Jewish hate wherever I see in my communities and families, In'sh'allah, may peace, truths and freedoms for all including LGBTQ, so called satanists all, live in peace, Ameen
I follow a few scientists/physicists in TH-cam, mostly around stuff to do with advanced propulsion. Eric being one, Jack Sarfatti, Jeremy Rys etc. They all have expressed opinions that surprised me. You'd think scientists would be left, these guys definitely aren't. So it's definitely put me off them. The irony of people who are scientists who are all about data and facts happily dispense with this need when it comes to holding opinions
Rather childish commentary from two individuals intent on ridiculing and disparaging others! So much so that, other than for their sycophants, they are scoring numerous home goals!
As awful as this is, I have to admit Eric is still easier to listen to than Brett and his wife are. Just in terms of tone of voice, cadence and all that.
This video is almost nothing but strawman arguments, double standards and miss-characterizations. Sam tries to completely deny Israels attempts at giving Palestinians a state by saying "Israel made settlements in the West Bank therefore they never really offered one" even though they did offer, multiple times. And every time it was shot down by the Palestinians. Also the West Bank was part of the Jews original homeland and they had settlements there long before 1948. One of the reasons they took back part of there homeland was the Six day war. A conflict started because Egypt and other nearby countries would not recognize Israels right to exist and Egypt created a blockade to cut off Israel. But I could just use Sams line "point is they lived there". But it doesn't count when talking about the Jews right? So how do you turn these events into "Israel never offered them a state"? Oh and the co-host saying "and then theres the underlying racial undertones" just because Eric said "Arabs" is hilarious. Do they bring up the "racial undertones" when the Palestinians or anyone else calls for the genocide of a race of particular people? Oh I guess theres nothing underlying there.. Nobody would be talking about moving people if people would just stop fighting and killing each other over Jews having a tiny state of their own. Of course Hamas supporters will circle back to "the Jews are colonists and occupiers so all the violence and hate is just" as if trying to live in your tiny homeland is akin to colonizing. As if many Arab & Muslin nations weren't conquered and colonized territories like many states today. And just what country is Israel a colony of?? Israel cant be a colony of itself. The double standard on display is unreal and so are the "underlying racial undertones". Now Im not sure if Sam is purposefully dense or just lying about what Eric was trying to say. Eric was obviously talking about radical religious groups like Hamas and their belief in martyrdom, the eagerness they show when sacrificing their lives, especially civilian lives for their "holy war". Eric was trying to point out that Hamas wants a brutal retaliation, they want civilian casualties, not just on their enemies side but their own. I dont know how this isnt obvious to anyone paying attention.
The “state” that Israel offers is a bantustan, not an actual state. The Zionist project is prima facie illegitimate, that doesn’t mean Jews shouldn’t live wherever, but we have no special right to an ethnostate in other peoples land. Tel Aviv is no less of a settlement than any outpost in the West Bank.
The entire Weinstein line got hit with the ugly stick. And I think the fact that these guys undoubtedly got turned down by nearly every woman they perused romantically is a big driver for them when it comes to how vile they are.
The one and only time I've seen this guy was in a clip from The Joe Rogan show. I got a pompous ass-in love with his own voice- vibe, back then. Now I see why. '...a state or a chant...' !? Give me a f***ing break.
The guy is sick on so many levels and he thinks he knows and has figured out what these mothers are thinking when they just lost their babies. The way he coldly explains and boasts about western hegemony and the killing and slaughter of infants in Gaza tells you how much sickness he holds in his heart. I am sure he will pay for it as he’s probably even sicker than his late sick brother.
Mike David calls Eric Weinstein 'Warts' and he has a very hilarious clip of Warts talking to Lex Fridman about what a great man Joe Rogan is. Mike David is the funniest Jew around other than Larry David.
Eric Weinstein is entirely too impressed with himself.
He was holding back his power... Out of kindness... But now...
*Malevolent Shrine: Jeffrey's Island*
is this a JJK anime reference@@klof4276 ?
Few others are.
What is there to say about this person beyond what you said? "I am so important to the world, and my words carry so much weight that I will be silent so as not to disrupt the peace process." It is laughable.
It's because no one else is.
A narcissist said "I agreed to stay silent while the peace process was happening"
A narcissist who's not smart enough to cover his tracks.
It’s all I could think about. He agreed with…who? His ego?
I mean, just imagine if he HAD stepped in, with his Mighty Wisdom, making BRILLIANT pronouncements....
Everyone would blame HIM now, for EVERYTHING 😮
@@billyconnelly3568 LOL, he's VERY smart.
@@Globaldave1970
Yes some people who aren't at all smart think so.
Yes, I'm calling you stupid
I'll never forget when Eric said that power dynamics weren't real in regards to workplace abuse. Insane.
He doesn't want anyone getting wise.
he really is a Weinstein
Wait he really said that??? 😂🤦♀️
As if his brother was never fired.
Sounds like he's prone to emulating another famous Weinstein from a few years ago...
Listening to his "arguments" made me feel physically sick.
Literally
@@famalam943is fundamentalist Christianity and Judaism any better?
@@famalam943 So the Golden Ae of Islam the brought light to the Dark ages of Europe where a king only bathed once a month and brought coffee, universities, seeking of knowledge trade and all the good stuff that Islam had done doesn't count right,,, just ISIS which is a blip considering when you compare the crusades, Leonard in Congo, Aborignies in Australia, or Spanish inquisitions or Holocoast or or or or .... See you're only repeating the zioniat legacy media narrative..look at the big picture and be more dialectic in your thinking...if you actually have the courage to compare Islam to other civilisations and religions..you'd be shocked about how misinformed about Islam....if I only teach you the negative things about one people and tell you all the good about the other leaving the good of the first and the bad of the latter.
🤣@@famalam943
@@famalam943 did you mean to reply on a different comment?
"You can have half of what you once had, and we'll gradually take most of it away, or you can have nothing - why can't you be reasonable?"
Well it was supposed to be 52-48 but in reality it started at 80-20 and went downhill from there.
@@joemagarac405
and it keeps going downhill.
Yup. Islam does that alot. Very true.
@@mobilusinmobili8321
and yet idiots only see it as a bad thing if Islam does it. Apparently it's a good thing when everyone else does it - as long as hey're not socialists, of course.
Your whataboutism is ironically the very issue at hand.
@@bengreen171
No, its just that none of you condemned them for any number of genocides theyve committed.
So your fake outrage about Israel is easily dismissed when you cannot prove me wrong.
Ya tried...
I know Harvey is the most disgusting Weinstein, but Eric is putting in some work.
Are they related?
It's amazing that there are two pairs of Weinstein brothers who are all disgusting.
only by entitlement@@nothere413
Absofreakinlutely 😂😢😢😂😢
I used to view Eric as the more reasonable brother compared to Brett but nope, Eric was just hiding his power level
"Gather around everyone and let me tell you how I use logical fallacies to support my bigotry." - Eric Weinstein
“Gather around everyone and let me tell you how I straw man arguments into bigotry”-leftists
Haha exactly! He’s a delusional clown
It's borderline but I really hope the closet racists out there don't jump on the opportunity for antisemitism,
Having said that I absolutely love what you did because there's lot of truths in what you said.
Albeit at risks of our Jewish Brothers and sisters name being tarnished.
Haha...that was funny take by sam and team. Just a regular dark web of bigots... masquerading as intellectuals
@@r_ds8057
Anti Zionism isn't anti-semitism
This is supposed to be the "sane" Weinstein sibling.
No way! The other one is even worse 😂?!
Yes, Bret is way worse@@j.h3442
@@j.h3442 Yep, the other one is Brett Weinstein of Covid desinfo fame.
Well he is at least the internationally successful within his field sibling, but I don't think you have to be "sane" to be a internationally renowned physicist.
So sad have to literally compare between lesser evil
"This is not my language" ya, the language of truth and understanding, that's certainly not his language or apparently something he can comprehend.
Technically he is talking to the aliens so he might've forgotten how to speak.
You should watch the whole thing it his argument into context. I don't agree with it, but these two don't even know what Eric is responding to.
If you start using the language of people who actually understand the situation, I immediately know what you're gonna say.
@@firefly9838 People should watch the whole thing, I agree, especially if they're tearing it down so confidently. But there's no larger context in which using the term "Palestinians" is a deal-breaker for conversation. Calling them anything else actively confuses the discussion for no good reason. And there's no larger context in which "occupied territory" is inappropriate to use in this case. When one people (or two, including Egypt) controls another's food, water, medicine, fuel, electricity, ports, economy and political fate, and bombs their property at will without ever compensating them for the damage or loss of life, they're occupying that territory. When someone begins ANY segment of their analysis with "I don't recognize these two terms," the rest of what they say can't possibly explain away that level of denial / ignorance / lunacy.
I can't say I've ever seen two people more infatuated with their own words than the Weinstein bros, as if every line they drop is the most profound, previously unarticulated thought in history and we should be grateful to witness it.
Oh they are 2nd and 3rd behind the Jordster
@@bthorson7979You have to throw the fast-talking Ben Shapiro in there as well.
Shame about Jordan. He used to actually make sense. Then it all got to his head, then he got sick and off the deep end.
Oh come on now, how can we leave out Sam "Thought Experiment" Harris?
@@adamesd3699agreed about Jordan. A lot of ppl that are like Jordan have disappointed me during this time
@adamesd3699 Jordan started to sound silly when he decided to branch outside his wheelhouse. When I heard him suggest that the Abraham Accord was a viable answer to the Middle East conflict , I knew he was off his rocker.
As always, Sam is right on the money.
The Weinstein dude revealed his thoughts on the matter the very moment he said that he doesn't want to speak to anybody who uses language like 'Palestinian', 'Occupation', 'Settler', etc.
He has clearly decided his stance on the subject already but keeping it out of the public discourse, just cowardly pretending to be apathetic and indifferent to it.
I've watched about 40% of this long ass podcast and plan to watch the rest tomorrow. It's really interesting and while *so far* I've found Eric Weinstein difficult to follow in relation to Sam Harris and, in a few places, borderline incoherent, you are not characterizing his point fairly.
He was not trying to eliminate the language of one side of the conflict, as you are suggesting, but rather pointing out the point of view of the speaker can be determined merely by the vocabulary they choose to emphasize. Frankly, it's not a particularly impressive observation, true though it may be. And to the extent that he doesn't want to engage with people who use that terminology, he includes the pro-Israeli side. But it's moot as his appearance on this podcast means he absolutely will talk to people whose vocabulary tips off their stance.
I agree with you that Weinstein's aloofness(and his brother's for that matter, regardless of how badly he was wronged by Evergreen) is annoying and suspicious. He goes out of his way to obfuscate his opinions whereas Sam Harris is very clear about what he believes.
To object even to the word Palestinian is pretty extreme.
But let's just say Judea and Samaria. What do we do with the "just Arabs" of "no nation state" who live there anyway?
He said a ‘peace process is something you have to lie your way through, in order to get what you want out of it. And once he didn’t get what he wanted and the ‘peace process’ was over…wtf kind of scum bag is this?
And his false equivalencies, his bad faith arguments…disgusting. Israel has really changed over the last several decades. I can’t support this crap any longer.
@@gregchavez1534 What “pro Israeli” side uses the terms occupation and settler?
It’s a disingenuous and lazy way to try and discredit an argument before even engaging with it.
That is not what he said.
He was explaining that people can use language to push their political views.
The offering of a state was more like, someone takes away your home and offers you your own tent 100 miles down the road, to live in.
@Human_Herbivore That is an excellent summary of what was offered. Well said!!!
Hey so I'm going to be living on your first floor now but you and your family can chill in the attic. What you're refusing housing? It's like you don't want a place to live
Then you are condoning the conditions that they live in now?
@@TheEvolver311 huh?
@@Human_Herbivore it was a question
"It's the dorm room full of sophomores who none of the other kids like". LOL.
Apropos of nothing, but does Eric Weinstein look like the Michael Meyers mask to anyone else?
Yes. I just woke up and I was trying to figure out who he looked like. That's it exactly.
William Shatner is crying somewhere
I literally sat here speaking out loud to myself that this guy looks like that character from Halloween or Friday the 13th or whatever it was. Spot on. Absolute ghoul.
In another portion of the conversation, he suggested that, instead of bombing Gaza, Israel should keep annexing Palestinian territory until the hostages get released. What's dumb about that is that Israel has already de facto annexed the West Bank since they give themselves the right to take military action anywhere on that territory and to displace anyone they want. Also, an annexation only becomes legitimate if it's internationally recognized. And, given that not even the US is likely to recognize such a move, it would be no different from Russia declaring a annexation of Ukrainian regions in order to force a settlement on their terms.
I saw the podcast and that's not what he said.
He said after this they should do some sort of two state
And everytime hamas fires a rocker...then they annex the chunk of territory
It's a dumb solution regardless for some reasons you point...but different to how you describe it
The hostages being returned (and I assume even Hamas being deposed) were baked in
@@jds614
They have already annexed Gaza
They control the borders, flow of goods and flow of people
Israel is much worse than the current Russian government, get real for once.
Israel holds over 10,000 Palestinians in jail
@@jds614Israel fear Palestinian peace offensive more than anything. They will find away to provoke the Palestinians like killing their children to make them react
I had the fortune of not knowing who this ghoul was until today, so… thank you MR?
I loved when Emma started to do an impersonation of college students at the beginning of this clip. Don’t cut her off, Sam. You gotta let her riff sometimes.
He does it all the time. It's really rude and I'm pretty positive Emma gives off a passive aggressive tolerance of Sam.
I know he needs to let her go and appreciate her humor like she does his.
@@hahahahaha662 I mean, most of us have friends and family like this. Imagine that dynamic, magnified within the context of a show that primarily features the commentary of a single member of a friend group or family. It’s bound to happen. I’m sure she finds it annoying but doubt she really has any resentment for Sam for that. Who knows.
Eric Weinstein's ghoulish opinions were just in time for Halloween!
Eric "Michael Myers" Weinstein.
The conservatives really should have let their John Goodman clone cook longer.
Nice, lol
Omfg I'm dying 😂
Hey that's mean to John Goodman's messed up clone 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
the whole israel palestine debate blows my mind when it comes to legitimizing the israel position. Imagine if people who descended from trans alpine gauls going to germany and france and simply claiming that it was theirs because 3000 years ago they had an empire there. That's not how the world works, for better or worse.
That goes in both ways
Anatolia was populated by Greek people from at least 1600 bce, then the Truks expelled them and that was hundreds of years ago and everyone including this show laughs at the idea of the greek dependents wanting their ancestral homeland back. They were the indigenous people until they got expelled and then after enough time passed they are no longer indigenous. That is the long game of Israel, eventually the rest of the world will tell the Palestinians to move on both with their lives and from the region.
I love seeing Sam fired up like this and making such spot-on points.
Yeah, Sam Harris is great.
@@therainman7777sam Harris says a lot of dumb things while trying very hard to sound intelligent. Like Ben Shapiro.
@@AmericanNope but he's soft voice can make the most violent shit sound OK.
He was super on point here
I didn't really appreciate him shutting down his colleagues input on the return to Africa analogy. Matt in particular, but Emma as well as much more articulate than he is, he should let them contribute
In Islam you say thank god, not only after a positive experience, but also negative ones to imply that it’s god’s will. It’s an indirect way of counting your blessings in times of struggle.
Because all things are manifestations of I Am, all which occurs is intrinsically I Am; gratitude is a reconnection with this understanding.
If it's consoling that's good.
I still don't believe it tho.
@@billyconnelly3568no one asked you to buddy it’s ok
@@dsmvfl363
Fair enough. Good day.
@@billyconnelly3568 People handling grief need something to keep their sanity. It does help some people.
Glorifying martyrdom helps you cope with a great loss. It can also help a resistance fighter be fearless in battle.
Palestinians in Gaza have known only death for generations. For them to be glorifying martyrdom is sad but unsurprising.
Weinstein wants to use that sad reality to make them sound monstrous to inflict even more death on them.
You two make so many great points . My Palestinian Gazoe husband loves listening to your show! He lost 36 family so far but his building is still standing
Much respect to Eric for keeping his silence during peace talks. One word from Eric might have seen the negotiating teams immediately checking out and hitting the tarmac.
In fact, I think Eric deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for his critical silence. If only other great world figures would show such discretion.
I consider myself centre-left and am actually a fan of the Triggernometary podcast but their take on the recent escelation in the conflict has been really dissapointing and for people that pride themselves on being completely impartial centerists its been ridiculously pro-Israel. Before this episode with Sam Harris and Eric Weinstein they had Bari Weiss on, all massively pro-Israel, with no Palestinian side to the argument. Konstantin, the skinny host, did a short video where he said October 7th was the day wokeness died. It's like how the fuck does this conflict have anything to do with wokeness, especially when the most 'woke' tactic of identity politics is being used unapologetically and unironically by pro-Israel people
Still a fan then, or no?
I mean if you are a centrist then you would be pro-israel because that is the status quo and that is really what makes a person a centrist. If I said I support this multi-decade official US foreign policy position, you wouldn't call me lefty or rightwiger you'd call me a centrist. Centrist doesn't mean non-bias in fact it just means a bias towards the established status quo.
I only ever watched Eric talk about mathematics and I never cared to hear him talk about other stuff because, well, his opinion about other stuff is essentially worthless, especially if his rhetoric about that other stuff is an attempt to convey some deep insight he ultimately doesn't have because his whole life has been spent being a mathematician, not a historian or a humanitarian or a philosopher, or a theologian. Then I watched a bit of him on Lex Fridman's podcast talking about the nature of good and evil, again, in a rhetorical manner that was attempting to convey he had extensive experience in the realm of moral philosophy. And it was just so absurd. Then I found out he was friends with Peter Thiel. Then I saw bits and pieces of him talking about wokeness and jumping on the "anti-woke" bandwagon. Now here he is here, talking about another thing which he knows less than nothing about. It's incredible to discover how multi-dimensionally braindead these people are after only initially hearing them talk about things actually within their academic wheelhouse.
I sincerely doubt that guy has the brain power necessary to be a good mathematician.. seems like a grifter to me. Keep in mind academics these days is way more about social skills, knowing how to appear smart and knowing how to convince people to fund your research, than it is about the substance of your work.
Until he agrees to respond in good faith to Tim Nguyen’s critique of his supposed TOE (which even if could work, wouldn’t qualify), it’s best to assume he’s a fraud in that department too.
Isn't he a physics crank?
He’s not even a good mathematician or physicist.
Eric Weinstein looks like a Michael Meyers mask
His brother looks the same but the mask melted
Weinstein is the master of the word salad.Full of fury and indignation signifying nothing and thats it dude!😎
He has interesting ideas but loses me by unnecessarily layering his main idea with many tangential ideas (which as an ADHD person, I sympathize, but I doubt he has ADHD). The hosts have to keep stopping to ask him what the hell he's talking about.
@@gregchavez1534Cheers Greg.I agree.
He just says big words and speaks like an NPR host
I've seen him on Rogan a few times, going on and on about theories and physics but mostly dancing around the topic sounding impressive without really making any direct point. He was implying he made some amazing insights but the world is too stupid for understanding him. He sounds a bit narcissistic and not a great communicator.
@@mikeyoungblood1642well he is a a PhD in Mathematical Physics, I'd hardly expect him to be the greatest public speaker.
I can't believe you endured the pain of watching this 😂
This guy Eric totally loves the smell of his own farts. He thinks they smell like the best cologne.
He thinks saying his insane worldview in a calm voice means he's an enlightened fellow lmao
@@HammerStudioGamesjust hearing his voice makes me want to see him locked in a UFC cage with a heavyweight fighter. Eric is a total ghoul. Vile "human"
Also In Nazi Germany politicians don't say Palestine but P A.
Even though they are the cause of the problem
Golda Meir herself described herself as a Palestinian & had a Palestinian Passport. These mofo's are either playing dumb or lying.
The African american analogy of colonialism in africa itself did happen. It happened in Liberia.
Some people have chosen to call the land Isreal, now I have gone along with this language, but that was when there was a peace process, since Isreal has declared that to be dead, I will no longer use this language, as far as I’m concerned the entire land is Palestine until the extremist Zionist decide to revive the peace process and let go of their genocidal ambitions
That comedian Matt (sorry, I didn't catch the surname) was awesome! I'm beginning to think politicians should be forced to listed to comedians critique their intended policies before putting them into legislation in order to remove the ridiculous beforehand. Bassem Yousef, former surgeon now comedian, has also done a great job of putting Israel/Gaza into perspective.
Looking for a link to Matt's bit, can't find it
Wow, these host are insufferable. You can tell by their tones and their eagerness to attack that they take a pleasure out of being judgmental and condescending. Disappointing.
That 1 drink not on a coaster is making me nuts lol
Sam Harris 100% intentionally did not use the coaster because he has a theory how objective morality implies that he would be a moral monster to use said coaster.
@@BruceLeedarCan you elaborate on that please?
@@cobra8888 It's a joke.
WTF am I doing over here with imposter syndrome when there are pundits who sound like... THIS?!
I guess this is nature’s way of telling us
“If you feel fake, there are assholes whom are exposing how dumb and stupid they are”
Right!?!
I sincerely want to thank all of you on this podcast. You all get it and I just wish your audience grows exponentially.
Who did he make an agreement with to be silent during the "peace process"?
His massive ego. I can relate but nobody listens to me 😊
I remained silent, too. Now let me explain how evil Arabs are.
@@BlanBonco Me neither buddy
@@plateoshrimp9685 cmon shrimp you look so good rn I'm hungry
Eric just loves hearing his own voice. He will always see himself as the most intelligent person in the room.
Thank goodness Eric Weinstein, crank podcaster, didn’t open his mouth during that precarious peace process!
I like how you can easily identify a grifter by just looking at their position on Israeli occupation.
He isn't grifting, he legit believes this stuff. He literally gets invited and paid to participate in physics events around the world He is actually well respected within his profession. He also for real believes Israeli propaganda as if it was the truth
@lookbovine
You don't know who are speaking to. You've probably never met a real con-artist in your life.
@@lookbovine no you really think that
So Eric gets to say Palestinians "don't exist" but God forbid anyone says Israelis don't exist. You get locked up for that pretty much. The cognitive dissonance is frightening.
Even the host of the podcast shot Eric's nonsense down 18:03. "That's why we're here right now, that's what we're talking about".
I didn't see him as shutting down anything, unfortunately. Weinstein has a several-minute rant about how awful terrorist violence is but how Israeli violence doesn't really count because it might be all a hoax done by the mothers. No one at all pushed back on either the justification of brutality or the conspiracy theorizing. He finally said "Israel can't figure out how to solve this problem (that they're totally innocent in because even the missiles they kill children with are Hamas's fault)," so the moderator stepped in to basically say "Ok, then, let's all brainstorm how we can advise angelic blameless Israel to best take care of the evil that everyone else is doing. Hmm, should we bomb more or just annex everything or just annex little pieces of innocent West Bank Palestinians' houses in punishment because of what some Hamas fighter that they've never met did?"
So he didn't question Eric's nonsense, he sat by and listened to it without cutting in. He doesn't question the premise (Israel is the victim and civilians on the other side are irrelevant), and all of the ensuing talk is from the same genocidal mindset. He piped in to say "Ok, all of this is correct and true, Eric, now how do we use this truth in order to give Israel total victory here?"
@@SteveGellerMusic Perhaps "shot down" is giving the host too much credit, and maybe I'm misreading the interaction. Perhaps I'm projecting my own state of mind onto them, but to me it seemed like everyone listening to him looked uncomfortable and not really following his reasoning or finding what he said to be profound or a sophisticated analysis of the situation. I haven't seen the original video, but I took the hosts response here to mean "I heard all that and I didn't find it worthy of a response, let's move on". Again, this might just be me projecting my own mannerisms, but when someone says something nonsensical and wrong I often just acknowledge that they said something and try to move on rather than get derailed trying to dissect and refute it. Is it cowardice or mental exhaustion? I don't always know. I do acknowledge that when you broadcast your conversation like this, it's not good to leave these things at all ambiguous and to let these claims go completely unchallenged. If he did disagree, he should have at least said "I'm not completely on board with that characterization, but I'd like to move on".
@@somethingelse4424Ah. I think it is not impossible that the host simply wanted to move on because one of the panelists had spoken for a while and others might be waiting to speak. But I read it as "there's something you said you didn't know, so my job a as host is to open it up and let's see if we can collectively figure it out" rather than "your answer is nonsense but too silly to address."
All of the people in in the room think that everyone else there is a brilliant scholar, because they all think of THEMSELVES as brilliant, and here comes another panelist that --looky there! agrees with them on everything, so they must be brilliant as well! After all, sheeple, Israel did nothing wrong and Muslims are evil and the real tragedy is that people can't just SAY these obvious things without censorship from the Great Woke Mob out there, so that's why it's so vital to bring together all of these geniuses onto one stage, and if any genius speaks too long, it diminishes the impact of the other geniuses.
That's a long way from "I disagree with something you said," let alone "I'm challenging your argument with some pushback," which all of the TV hosts are immediately doing the second they hear something that disagrees with their already-formed stance on this subject. If Eric had said something like "Israel gets an Iron Dome, why shouldn't the Palestinian citizens get an Iron Dome as well, if we're trying to protect them?," the host and everyone on the panel would have "shot him down" for 40 straight minutes instead of calmly moving on.
The language of billions.
the dude in the back always cackling kills me!!!
Thank you for being so clear and compassionate about what is really happening in the Middle East. I enjoy watching you all❤❤❤
It’s amazing how someone so smart in one field could be so stupid and fallible in another
It's very common
@@MattHudsonAtx These guys, podcasters and all around geniuses learn by experience how to think on their feet and lie. It's kind of easy if you are very smart and good at oratory to start with. There are people who study these issues seriously, if you are not citing any of the references in a particular field or doing detailed work yourself and going through events in a thorough way, going through dates, people, following the money, etc, then it's pretty easy to tell when someone is full of hot air. just like eric weinstein is.
@@Hapotecario yeah, but I don't think Weinstein is dishonest by some accident or extension of oratory skill
@@MattHudsonAtx I didn't say that and so, I don't understand what you mean.
is literally the problem. thinking a person is intelligent on all subjects because one succeeds at a single one is the ultimate logical fallacy.
I’m Native American and I want my land back!!! The US gov did to my people what Israelis did to the Palestinians!!
I hope you get your land back one day ❤️🇵🇸
Seems fitting that Eric Weinstein would make an appearance during this time
Wow. I mean just wow. What the fuck did I just listen to?
You all are great! I’m a new subscriber and I’m hooked.
this is the same guy who was adamant that his nutty brother is a genius.
5:40 My husband is from Egypt and he says even though I speak Arabic, I’m not an Arab, I’m an Egyptian.
Please stop calling them 'settlers'. They are squatters.
Eric Weinstein would be getting destroyed on Twitter spaces and would get upset over the persons tone with them rather than tackling what they’re actually saying. “Oh I like the tone you used with me I’ll try to do the same” the. Restate what he’s always been saying he’s a straight emotional wreck.
If you are smart you will be able to see through these clowns facade..Sam the clown accuses Weinstein of trying to create an argument that would make people less sympathetic to the images they see related to the conflict. However, it is important to note that Weinstein was discussing the complexity of the situation and the need to understand the various factors at play, rather than trying to diminish the impact of the images or the suffering of the people involved. Sams ignorant interpretation of Weinstein's statements appears to be a misrepresentation of his actual perspective.
You and those on Twitter lack the education and the IQ he has to destroy him or anyone else. All he has to do is focus on the fact that your level of intellect isn't good enough to construct a sentence properly. How a person writes tells a lot about their IQ.
@@antimediaman9354 Weinstein's implications are rooted on Islamophobia based on understanding of certain hadiths though anecdotal experience from other muslims about killing killing all jews and what the "river to the sea" actually means. He gets butt hurt when his ideas get completely dismantled.
Shocked that the other 3 present don’t push back on this madness. Sam Harris, Ezra Klein - don’t know the third. Rapidly losing respect for these 2.
What?
Sam Harris agrees with Eric, and the other two are Konstantin Kisin, a Jewish comic, and Francis Foster, a former teacher turned comic. All are full onboard with the “omg Islam is so bad hurhurhur looks like you’re triggered”
@@Lurch685
"comic" those dudes aren't funny
@@billyconnelly3568 I agree, but they are stand up comics by profession.
You had respect for Scam Harris? Oh you poor sweet innocent summer child
it's amazing how the guys sitting right next to eric have no questions or sanity checks on his rambling spiraling insanity. harris for one isn't stupid enough to not see how incoherent weinstein is, yet he just sits there taking it in without losing his mind. I mean can you imagine sitting there next to eric and not have questions? like every sentence he lets out is so incoherently insane.
They're all closet zionists.
Have you watched whole interview? They let them talk but do push back
They are only showing his statements.
I can understand why someone would interpret some sort of ideological bent when someone says "occupied territories." I think it's dumb but I get it. But being triggered by the term "Palestinian" is something else. I simply don't understand why.
Because he has accepted the Israeli States official position.
Legend has it she is still trying to pronounce trigger-nometry
Can we retire the term Islamophobia? It's just sloppy. It's not a bad thing to have a fear of outdated, irrational doctrines. I also have Judeo-Christianophobia, Scientologyophobia, Mormonophobia.
Thank you! We don't have to defend this nonsense anymore than we would defend fundamentalist Christianity.
Exactly, and adding 'phobia' to the word is a misnomer. A phobia is by definition an irrational fear of something. My fear of religion and the zeolites who follow it is grounded in well established reasons and definitely not irrational.
Eric is actually the much smarter Weinstein. Imagine that
when your feelings are hurt by facts, don't worry, just call it islamophobia.
Take your meds
You guys are AWESOME !!!
he shouldn't pretend to know what people of the islamic faith feel when their loved one's are martyred.
Just wanna say I was making that exact same argument Discord right at the start of this latest attack from Hamas of if American descendants of African slaves somehow knew specifically where their ancestors were taken from and decided to go and displace the existing population, the local population would be just as pissed as the Palestinians are and they would be justified in it.
People who defend or make excuses for Israel simply do not care about the facts of the matter. In the ~7 or so years I've talked about it online (Discord, Reddit, and Twitter), I've never seen a single Israel supporter convinced by any argument. All I can conclude is that they're Islamophobic fascists, they don't care even a little about the suffering of Palestinians. Those who support Israel with any non-trivial amount of knowledge on the matter are outright genocidal.
The hypothetical person who somehow just learned of Israel on October 7th might be able to be convinced by telling them even just the history of the region since the 90s, but anybody supporting Israel with more knowledge than that is too far gone. Like Michael said, it's not complicated; if you look at any amount of the history of the region, at the relative capabilities of Palestine and Israel, it becomes _very_ obvious what's going on there.
Calling everyone Islamophobic who criticizes the Islamic community is saying all criticism of Israel is antisemitism
It’s just a way of blocking down legitimate concerns and criticism within political Islam or from Islamic countries
Either it’s ok to criticize Israel and the Jewish community and it’s not antisemitic
And it’s ok to criticize Muslim countries and the Islamic community and is not Islamophobic
Or you can’t criticize Israel/jews or Muslim countries/ Muslims
At all because both are racist
Sam Seder is clearly a hypocrite on this issue and should be called out as such
This is the most offensive thing I've seen in a while
Just my two cents as an "Arab" Algerian woman: "Arab" is mainly a geopolitical concept designating citizens of countries where Arabic is an official language. Many "Arabs" aren’t ethnically Arab - think North Africa and the Maghreb region specifically. Language is only one aspect of an ethnicity.
Ty. Appreciate
just a slight correction to Matt, the ANC mk means spear of the nation not tip of the spear. Sorry if it sounds pedantic, didn't mean it that way 🙏
"It's not my language". OK, but is it accurate?
Wow you can tell by the phrases someone is using what arguments they're gonna make? That's definitely not someone EVERYONE can do!
Emma didn't understand what "from the river to the sea" meant. I hope she reads the Hamas charter from 2017. It clarifies what it means.
I think Israelis and Palestinians have people in power that don't want a two state solution. The West Bank settlements make a two state solution nearly impossible.
That was weird, she's definitely heard that; sometimes I notice that her arguments are extremely granular and at times she literalizes metaphor.
I don't even know what he's talking about with that. He's literally talking like Israel was there first and the Palestinians weren't happy getting half of someone else's land.
@@seeibe I thought they were both there but at the time deals were made with Britain for statehood (1915 - 1917) by all parties, the Muslim Arab population was the majority and the Jewish population was a minority.
@@RayKosby There was like less than 5% Jews there in the beginning who lived peacefully with the Muslims and Christians in the region. In the early 20th century more and more non-Arab Jews started coming from Europe and slowly taking over. It's a classic colonialist situation. The original Jewish population of the region has very little to do with it.
@@matttrianoGood point. She is either being naive and actually thinks that, or is being disingenuous.
4 months later and you guys absolutely called it correct. Every, single, point.
His minimization of their suffering & pain as being strictly performative is both cynical & gross. Completely disgusting views.
The Elephant in the room is the 24% Christian Orthodox in Palestine...
24%? Really?
@@arieraaphorst1998no fkn way 😂
Copyright?
Triggernometry is the fifth album from hardcore rap group Onyx, released on July 22, 2003, by D3 Entertainment. The whole album was produced by Kronic Tones. The album features appearances by American rappers T Hussle, Genovese, Begetz, X1, Bad Luck, Dirty Getinz. The album peaked at No. 66 on the Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums music chart.
Anyone calling Eric Weinstein a bigot must not be familiar with the man. I’ve heard hours of him talking, and I’ve never heard a shred of bigotry come out of his mouth. You might not agree with his take here, but what did he say that gives people the impression he’s bigoted against arabs or muslims?
As someone with left wing politics myself, I’m consistently disappointed to hear the sanctimonious, bad faith takes on Sam Seder’s show. I remember him saying that the autistic Google engineer James Damore deserved to be fired because he said that women weren’t fit to work at the company, or some straw man interpretation like that.
A little charity in trying to understand people with different viewpoints wouldn’t go astray, rather than dismissing and mocking them reflexively. I miss Michael Brooks.
I agree. I was hoping for more. This panel (Majority Report) is remarkably cynical. An example is the female cohost just concluded Eric Weinstein believes in “crisis actors.” I can’t imagine knowing his actual position and concluding that. I think I’m finished expecting anything else.
Also to note is that Ashkenazi Jews who make the majority of the Jews in the area now are descendants of converted Jews from Ashkenaz area of today's Turkey. They are not from Israel.
@0:10 Emma's incredulity at the podcast name is hilarious
No it’s not she knows what it is that was rehearsed and completely missed
One of her favorite things to do is ridicule the word choices and podcast/show names of her opponents as if they, in and of themselves, are proof of moral and/or intellectual depravity. What hilarious is that she's an adult making arguments like a middle schooler.
@@gregchavez1534 she’s a woman so
Eric used to have sane takes, but unfortunately after that traumatic robbery he hasn't been the same. I mean, what would your take be if they stole your neck, huh?
p.s. I always regard Sam Harris as the King of BS, but when the camera is on him, you can see it in his eyes that even he is not buying it.
Thank you guys
Is Emma saying "from the river to the sea" actually means "from the river to the sea with an Israel sized gap inbetween"?
So you want more Islam...?
No one forcefully removed Palestinians. They were offered plenty of time to create their own nation and refused. That's that... How do you think Muslims expanded all over? It was by force.
You love the cycle of violence and killings as that is what you love working for, and self delusional talk.
Unlike Katie Halper and Norman Finkelstein thank you so much for your honesty and humanity,
It's our Jewish Community brothers and sisters likewise that brings tears to my eyes, who work tirelessly for peace,
In same token I try my best to eradicate anti semitism and Jewish hate wherever I see in my communities and families,
In'sh'allah, may peace, truths and freedoms for all including LGBTQ, so called satanists all, live in peace,
Ameen
Give it a rest colonizer
is this guy supposed to be smart?
Yep, the average public intellectual for ya.
I follow a few scientists/physicists in TH-cam, mostly around stuff to do with advanced propulsion. Eric being one, Jack Sarfatti, Jeremy Rys etc. They all have expressed opinions that surprised me. You'd think scientists would be left, these guys definitely aren't. So it's definitely put me off them. The irony of people who are scientists who are all about data and facts happily dispense with this need when it comes to holding opinions
Rather childish commentary from two individuals intent on ridiculing and disparaging others! So much so that, other than for their sycophants, they are scoring numerous home goals!
As awful as this is, I have to admit Eric is still easier to listen to than Brett and his wife are. Just in terms of tone of voice, cadence and all that.
This video is almost nothing but strawman arguments, double standards and miss-characterizations. Sam tries to completely deny Israels attempts at giving Palestinians a state by saying "Israel made settlements in the West Bank therefore they never really offered one" even though they did offer, multiple times. And every time it was shot down by the Palestinians. Also the West Bank was part of the Jews original homeland and they had settlements there long before 1948. One of the reasons they took back part of there homeland was the Six day war. A conflict started because Egypt and other nearby countries would not recognize Israels right to exist and Egypt created a blockade to cut off Israel. But I could just use Sams line "point is they lived there". But it doesn't count when talking about the Jews right?
So how do you turn these events into "Israel never offered them a state"? Oh and the co-host saying "and then theres the underlying racial undertones" just because Eric said "Arabs" is hilarious. Do they bring up the "racial undertones" when the Palestinians or anyone else calls for the genocide of a race of particular people? Oh I guess theres nothing underlying there..
Nobody would be talking about moving people if people would just stop fighting and killing each other over Jews having a tiny state of their own. Of course Hamas supporters will circle back to "the Jews are colonists and occupiers so all the violence and hate is just" as if trying to live in your tiny homeland is akin to colonizing. As if many Arab & Muslin nations weren't conquered and colonized territories like many states today. And just what country is Israel a colony of?? Israel cant be a colony of itself.
The double standard on display is unreal and so are the "underlying racial undertones".
Now Im not sure if Sam is purposefully dense or just lying about what Eric was trying to say. Eric was obviously talking about radical religious groups like Hamas and their belief in martyrdom, the eagerness they show when sacrificing their lives, especially civilian lives for their "holy war". Eric was trying to point out that Hamas wants a brutal retaliation, they want civilian casualties, not just on their enemies side but their own. I dont know how this isnt obvious to anyone paying attention.
The “state” that Israel offers is a bantustan, not an actual state. The Zionist project is prima facie illegitimate, that doesn’t mean Jews shouldn’t live wherever, but we have no special right to an ethnostate in other peoples land.
Tel Aviv is no less of a settlement than any outpost in the West Bank.
The entire Weinstein line got hit with the ugly stick. And I think the fact that these guys undoubtedly got turned down by nearly every woman they perused romantically is a big driver for them when it comes to how vile they are.
I wouldn't spill a drop of ink in Weinstein's defense, but this is RANK projection. 😂
So basically, that comedic George Takei video “you are made of stupid” fits well into anyone last name Weinstein.
@@saturngenesis1306 No, I’m not ugly as sin like that family. I’m decent looking.
Actually, if I had to put my money on a bet, I would be willing to bet that Brett has had a pretty good sex life... 🤪
He must have a little wiener
This is so evil
The one and only time I've seen this guy was in a clip from The Joe Rogan show. I got a pompous ass-in love with his own voice- vibe, back then. Now I see why. '...a state or a chant...' !?
Give me a f***ing break.
Jesus Christ. How do I watch the whole of this without breaking all my furniture? I already have no fingernails...
Emma's comment about the chant "from the river to the sea" totally missed the point.
@@billyconnelly3568 Emma's comment did miss the point I agree with you, now you've pivoted to Matt?
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Matt's much better read than Sam and Emma on theory and any number of issues.
Sam defers to Matt. Most of the time it works.
Just look up the River to Sea was a 1948 Zionist slogan.
@@70newlifeYeah exactly. This dude isn't making sense. It's like for him, the history of the conflict starts in 1990 or something.
Eric's lack of hubris is hilarious. The fact thinks what he says will affect the peace process is just so arrogant and delusional.
You guys rock! Thank you 🙏
The guy is sick on so many levels and he thinks he knows and has figured out what these mothers are thinking when they just lost their babies. The way he coldly explains and boasts about western hegemony and the killing and slaughter of infants in Gaza tells you how much sickness he holds in his heart.
I am sure he will pay for it as he’s probably even sicker than his late sick brother.
Mike David calls Eric Weinstein 'Warts' and he has a very hilarious clip of Warts talking to Lex Fridman about what a great man Joe Rogan is. Mike David is the funniest Jew around other than Larry David.
@@shadebleu Mike David is funnier than old school Howard Stern.
Redbars watching!