I'm still completely floored by the revelation that the whistle 844 has worn for so long us 4014's original Hancock 3 chime. Guess it makes sense now why that beauty has always had such an absolute roar to it.
@@trisb0999 it is 1000% true. Ed Dickens acquired the whistle some time in the 2010 to 2011 period. Hence why the whistle first appeared on 844 in 2011. He got the whistle from a private collector and the whistle is back where it belongs, on the king of all steam locomotives.
Ed can sure quill that whistle. 4014 probably isn't used to being pampered like this, she's gotta be thinking "are we going to get the rest of the train?" lol.
Starting at the 5:45 mark, there is hardky any visable smoke, most of it actually looks like steam as it dissapates. Looks and sounds like the 4014 is is getting fine tuned.
Great to see the UP 4014 in operation during 2022 since the west coast tour planned for this year was cancelled, 4014 has a new whistle installed which makes for a noticeable newly applied feature.
That’s because the whistle now on the 4014 is the one the 844 has worn since 2011 or 2012. From what I’ve heard and read, it’s actually the 4014’s original, and after passing hands a few times, made its way into Ed Dickens’ ownership, hence its time as the 844’s whistle, and why said whistle is now on the 4014.
@@UnionPacificRailfan2018 Not if, as stated prior, the whistle now on 4014 is the one the the 844 has worn for nearly a decade now. The 844’s either whistle-less right now or has a new whistle on it, which if the latter is the case, I’d bet it’s the whistle that the 4014 wore from 2019 to 2021.
Actually, "844s" whistle is the one 4014 used in service. UP just replaced it with a different whistle when 4014 was on display in California, which was the whistle she used until now. Ed Dickens acquired 4014s original whistle and put on 844 from 2011-2019 in anticipation for 4014s redtoration.
@@regularguy7266 I remember reading somewhere that 844 had 4014's whistle, I'm glad it's back on 4014, I think it sounds great, more authoritative and fitting of a Big Boy.
@@regularguy7266 Me too, it may end up just being a swap. Makes me wonder what the folks at the Silvis shops will do with 3985's whistle since it's pretty much worn out.
It’s weird that we got so used to the 844 using the big boys original whistle so that means 844 is going to have to use the big boys old whistle that they were using for the past 3 years or the 838s whistle if it still works
Almost impossible to find the 32v 250 Watt bulbs that were used in the original headlight. So they have resorted to using a vintage Pyle National single to dual beam headlight adapter plate. It allows a pair of 200 Watt, 32v sealed beam bulbs to be used. And that also offers redundancy as well.
did they put 844's whistle on 4014? I'm also surprised they used SD70M 4015 again. I'd like to see SD70M 4884 or any of the specially painted units work with the Big Boy on an excursion.
Actually, "844s" whistle is the one 4014 used in service, UP just replaced it when 4014 was on display on the Rail Giants Train Museum in Pomona California, which was the whistle 4014 when she was restored used until now. Ed Dickens acquired the 4014s original whistle, and put it on 844 from 2011-2019 in anticipation for 4014s return to service.
I've read 4014 had two whistles during its service, the first was this one when it was introduced in service and then later it was replaced (not sure if it was in the late 40s or 50s) with a modified Hancock whistle meant to sound a bit more musical than the others, sort of an experiment. The crews liked the whistle reportedly and kept it on the engine, thus that was donated with 4014 to the museum and was used for the first couple years of Big Boy's excursions. I personally like the cleaner, clearer one myself, but this one on it at the moment isn't too shabby!
You know, we really should redevelop steam locomotives so as to shift some of that diesel usage into coal usage since the US has the world's largest coal reserve and oil is needed for cars.
As I understand, the reason that steam locomotives were discarded in favor of diesels was because diesels require far less care and maintenance, not because of their fuel source or power output. would be cool to see what a modern steam locomotive would look like though.
@@bearsharken Ross Rowland tried that in the 80s with his ACE Charles City Western 3000 project, but that was canceled. Also, there’s a group called the PRR T1 Trust and they constructing a new steam locomotive from scratch and will be numbered 5550.
@@MackeyBigBoy4014 The T1 trust is rebuilding the PRR's T1 design from the 1940s, with a few modifications, and it will essentially be an excursion locomotive, similar to how N&W 611 operates today. The ACE 3000 project seems to have failed due to both oil prices falling and design changes shying the railroads that were interested away from the concept. Both the C&O and UP experimented with steam-turbine electric locomotives, but neither made it into widespread use. Diesels just seem to be cheaper to run overall, so railroads use them instead.
I'm still completely floored by the revelation that the whistle 844 has worn for so long us 4014's original Hancock 3 chime. Guess it makes sense now why that beauty has always had such an absolute roar to it.
Is this true, can anyone confirm this?
@@trisb0999 it is 1000% true. Ed Dickens acquired the whistle some time in the 2010 to 2011 period. Hence why the whistle first appeared on 844 in 2011. He got the whistle from a private collector and the whistle is back where it belongs, on the king of all steam locomotives.
Ed can sure quill that whistle. 4014 probably isn't used to being pampered like this, she's gotta be thinking "are we going to get the rest of the train?" lol.
Im glad to see things returning back to normal. Seems like excursions are happening more frequently again
Awesome! I love the new whistle on her. Sounds better!
ThAnks for the chase! Great filming!
Thank you UP Steam Team!
Hurray! A new video!! Can't wait for more as the Big Boy finishes its trip.
Excellent video, great scene for the X4014. It's a Phenomenal Steam Locomotive. Thank you for showing me. Greetings from Germany
Starting at the 5:45 mark, there is hardky any visable smoke, most of it actually looks like steam as it dissapates. Looks and sounds like the 4014 is is getting fine tuned.
That would be one train to see! WOW Thanks for sharing.
Another good one Skip
Great to see the UP 4014 in operation during 2022 since the west coast tour planned for this year was cancelled, 4014 has a new whistle installed which makes for a noticeable newly applied feature.
🎶🎶 We're the Union Pacific and our storys just begun! 🎶🎶
Finally SteamUP is back
I wish I could’ve been there that’s my favorite steam engine
Now that’s a whistle that sounds like it came from a Union Pacific 4000 class
Big boy whistle sounds different in a good way it’s louder now and almost sound like 844 whistle when he slowly picks up speed
That’s because the whistle now on the 4014 is the one the 844 has worn since 2011 or 2012. From what I’ve heard and read, it’s actually the 4014’s original, and after passing hands a few times, made its way into Ed Dickens’ ownership, hence its time as the 844’s whistle, and why said whistle is now on the 4014.
@@justahillbilly7777 oh that makes sense thanks for the info
So what whistle is on 844 now?
@@bcbloc02 844 still has her whistle on
@@UnionPacificRailfan2018 Not if, as stated prior, the whistle now on 4014 is the one the the 844 has worn for nearly a decade now. The 844’s either whistle-less right now or has a new whistle on it, which if the latter is the case, I’d bet it’s the whistle that the 4014 wore from 2019 to 2021.
Sounds like he's using 844's whistle.
Actually, "844s" whistle is the one 4014 used in service. UP just replaced it with a different whistle when 4014 was on display in California, which was the whistle she used until now. Ed Dickens acquired 4014s original whistle and put on 844 from 2011-2019 in anticipation for 4014s redtoration.
@@regularguy7266 I remember reading somewhere that 844 had 4014's whistle, I'm glad it's back on 4014, I think it sounds great, more authoritative and fitting of a Big Boy.
@@stevew270 yeah, I wonder what whistle they'll put on 844, the whistle 4014 weated until now, or a new whistle.
@@regularguy7266 Me too, it may end up just being a swap. Makes me wonder what the folks at the Silvis shops will do with 3985's whistle since it's pretty much worn out.
@@stevew270 only time will tell.
It’s weird that we got so used to the 844 using the big boys original whistle so that means 844 is going to have to use the big boys old whistle that they were using for the past 3 years or the 838s whistle if it still works
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Great video! Looks like they're still keeping her around 45-50; is that right? Man she's running well!
Great Catch UP 4014 Big Boy Steam Engine is Here Again
Great Video 👍
It came to my area last august
Anyone know if it will tour the US again? I'm kicking myself for missing out on seeing it when it came it Minnesota some years back.
I know one change the date to 4014 they replaced her single bulb headlight for a Duel beam headlight
Almost impossible to find the 32v 250 Watt bulbs that were used in the original headlight. So they have resorted to using a vintage Pyle National single to dual beam headlight adapter plate. It allows a pair of 200 Watt, 32v sealed beam bulbs to be used. And that also offers redundancy as well.
@@FFred-us9tw very cool
So fucking cool man. What a beauty😍
The reason I like steam engines so much is that some day, if, we got time travel into old times, it will help us, haha haha
How fast was going at 6:00?
did they put 844's whistle on 4014? I'm also surprised they used SD70M 4015 again. I'd like to see SD70M 4884 or any of the specially painted units work with the Big Boy on an excursion.
Think the 4015 is her partner in crime now. Does sound nice on the radio when the engineers say "4014 4015 blah blah!"
The 4015 has special modifications to allow it to send data to the 4014's PTC displays. And 844's whistle is actually 4014's original whistle.
i think they are using 844 whistle on the bigboy
Actually, "844s" whistle is the one 4014 used in service, UP just replaced it when 4014 was on display on the Rail Giants Train Museum in Pomona California, which was the whistle 4014 when she was restored used until now. Ed Dickens acquired the 4014s original whistle, and put it on 844 from 2011-2019 in anticipation for 4014s return to service.
@@regularguy7266 but the previous whistle suited 4014 very well. it sounded great
@@electricalknowledge4000 I think both whistles sound great.
@@regularguy7266 yes! they both sound great🙂
I've read 4014 had two whistles during its service, the first was this one when it was introduced in service and then later it was replaced (not sure if it was in the late 40s or 50s) with a modified Hancock whistle meant to sound a bit more musical than the others, sort of an experiment. The crews liked the whistle reportedly and kept it on the engine, thus that was donated with 4014 to the museum and was used for the first couple years of Big Boy's excursions. I personally like the cleaner, clearer one myself, but this one on it at the moment isn't too shabby!
Good👍👍
Thx skip are you chasing the 4014 back to Cheyenne when it goes back home
why does the whitle sound like up 844
Because 844 was actually wearing 4014's whistle until now.
Is the whistle on 4014 now going to be temporary?
It’s permanent. This is 4014's official whistle while it was in service.
Is the Big Boy still limited to 45?
70
@@Leatherface123. when did UP allow it to go 70? They had said maybe 55 or 60 but were going to limit to 45 until the PTC was figured out.
@@DL541 it's still 45-50 mph
@@davidng2336 yeah, disappointing but the UP Steam program to me seems to have lost its way.
You know, we really should redevelop steam locomotives so as to shift some of that diesel usage into coal usage since the US has the world's largest coal reserve and oil is needed for cars.
As I understand, the reason that steam locomotives were discarded in favor of diesels was because diesels require far less care and maintenance, not because of their fuel source or power output. would be cool to see what a modern steam locomotive would look like though.
@@bearsharken
Ross Rowland tried that in the 80s with his ACE Charles City Western 3000 project, but that was canceled.
Also, there’s a group called the PRR T1 Trust and they constructing a new steam locomotive from scratch and will be numbered 5550.
@@MackeyBigBoy4014 The T1 trust is rebuilding the PRR's T1 design from the 1940s, with a few modifications, and it will essentially be an excursion locomotive, similar to how N&W 611 operates today. The ACE 3000 project seems to have failed due to both oil prices falling and design changes shying the railroads that were interested away from the concept. Both the C&O and UP experimented with steam-turbine electric locomotives, but neither made it into widespread use. Diesels just seem to be cheaper to run overall, so railroads use them instead.
Steam locomotives are far too inefficient compared to Diesel Electric. But that aside, the maintenance alone makes them not worth it.
3985 and 844 were better at smoking. all 4014 has is size.
No sense in wasting excessive amount of fuel just to make extra 💨
@@corz68 its called a smoke show...all the steam excursions used to do that. without that in photos it might as well be on static display