I’m excited to see the ram charger. Especially longevity wise. If the batteries can last and are easy to replace, this truck can serve not only as a great way to drive around town cheaply, but also as a portable generator for my house
Thanks for this. You gents are doing a great job bringing the updates as quick as possible. I haven't seen any other channel as expeditious as y'all have been. Really hoping we hear something soon on the trims and off-road options that will be offered for both the Rev and Ramcharger.
Yeah, Ramcharger info seems to be scarce, sure hope it picks up soon and that substantial testing and production of Ramcharger really comes to fruition. So much potential with the Ramcharger powertrain. -- powerful possibilities, literally.
I am a very early reservation holder and I never ever get any updates or correspondence from ram regarding my order. I'm not hopeful about ever seeing my order.
As someone who has owned a tesla, if you live in a small town they AREN't for you. You'll spend more time charging than driving. So the RAMREV doesn't make sense. The RAM Charger does chick boxes. I made several cross county trips in a tesla, and a 14 hour drive (AZ to Dallas) took 2 days because of the charging delays. If the ramrev had a 800 mile on paper range, and 5-600 mile actual range I would swing that way too,
I think the Ramcharger is the best idea for those that want an electrified truck. But given the track record for Stellantis products (and frankly most new trucks) I wouldn't touch them with a 10ft pole. I have friends with new (22-now) trucks from all current US manufacturers, and they've ALL had their trucks spend extended periods of time, sometimes for electronic demons that plague the software, to unexplained catastrophic failures. Yes, all covered under warranty but when you need your truck to make a living, this is a huge problem.
Let's hope other manufacturers follow suit with range extender trucks. At least that way, we might have a chance at getting a somewhat reliable vehicle.
The appeal for me has less to do with EXTRA range than it does the ability to charge itself with a gas engine, that and the huge battery can run my house in a pinch. People seem to be rolling their eyes at the extra range claiming nobody drives that far, etc. That is not the point. Few people drive that far in a conventional gas engine in one trip. Nobody wants to be stranded at a charging station for half an hour + ever. If it takes more than 5 minutes to fill my sedan ALL the way up with gas from empty, something's wrong, and I'm probably finding another gas station. Also, gas is portable. If you're not paying as close attention as you should to the needle and you run out, someone can bring you more gas. And if you really want, you can simply carry extra gas. Not ever the case with electricity. The self charging is independence.
Yep. The whole conversation around "range anxiety" deeply flawed. It's not a range problem. It's a recharging problem. Loaded up and towing with my LX my range is realistically about 180 miles. Does that worry me at all? Nope. My kids's bladder or stomach won't make it that far anyway. We like EVs and have owned a few but their use case is still very limited. Manufacturers have been fixated on the wrong problem. Hopefully that tide is turning.
I am torn on the charger vs rev. While the distance is awesome for the Charger you still have oil changes and other maintenance costs vs just being able to charge at home. I am really waiting to see what the actual tow range is with the ram rev.
Yes, but if you drive around a city most of the time and use the Charger to tow a rec trailer a few times a year, your oil changes will be maybe once every 2 years or so. You will be driving battery only for the most part, never using the V6 to generate. Quite possible only putting on 1,000km in a year on that engine on the highway.
This is what I am hoping. But when price comes out will be the final factor. If it is way more expensive for the charger than the rev I might go with the rev. If it can haul 250 miles on 90% of the battery.
For those who are enamored with the potential of the REV and Charger, understand Stellantis is having severe difficulty with EVs. Dodge Charger EVs are bricking at dealerships. More than half the EVs at the Windsor production facility (they only make 10-12 a day) won't charge. Wagoneer S has the same problem. Not true? Take a look at TK's Garage video today where he shares photos and texts from employees. But the REV and RAM Charger will be good to go in a few months?? These two gentlemen are selling the sizzle. The substance is a different story.
We're relaying information as it's released. If there's new information released tomorrow about delays or credible information on issues, we'll pass that along as well - as we just did on the software induced delays for Jeep
Don't believe everything you hear from TK. His info is not always correct. WAP has been building many more then 10 a day for quite awhile now. Think 10x that and then some. Just shows he doesn't have as many sources as he wants everyone to believe, he just keeps spouting the same stuff every day.
Nothing trim specific. However, the quoted payloads of 2625 will likely be in well equipped units, as that's what we would expect to show up for first model year
Questions: How many charge cycles will the RAMCHARGER be capable of sustaining? What home adapters will be available to charge the RAMCHARGER? What size fuel tank will the RAMCHARGER have?
I don't think charging cycle data is available yet. Fuel tank is going to be 27 gallons. I'm not sure what you're looking for on the home charger info. There are tons of those on the market now.
Wtf i have been a ram insider plus member for a long time and I get no communication from them about reserving my spot. Gonna call and get my money back
It seems to me any ICE/EV hybrid long range vehicle can;to be sold for anything less than $100k. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the complexity involved means not only does they have to price the cost of materials and development into the price, but also expected warranty claims. A big reason why modern ICE cars are so expensive is because the traditional carmakers are pricing the horrible warranty expenses involved.
Because of battery size? Plug-in parallel hybrids are already everywhere on the market today, and far more complicated than the series hybrids in development.
This video convinced me cancel my rev insider membership. Zero info through that program and cant even figure out how to choose rev vs ramcharger. F those guys. They are mailing me my check
Right now with delays…it comes down with price. If they failed to deliver anything below $53k (below lighting )they might be screwed. Everything else doesn’t matter because people want cheaper stuff.
I own two EVs and Silverado V8. I would be very reluctant to purchase the RAM REV or RAM Charger. All legacy manufacturers have problems with EV software, hence the delay. They're obtaining the 500 miles on the REV by utilizing a massive 229 kWh battery pack. This will take close to an hour, if not more, to go from 10% to 80% at a DCFC. Low tech. On the RAM Charger... why? Complexity for very little benefit and yesterday's 400-volt architecture. Just stay with pure ICE and get over 500 miles. At least Scout (VW) had the good sense to use Rivian's software.
What do you mean by "very little benefit"? For whom? 80% of the buyers are putting down money for extended range hybrids, so they must feel there's substantial benefit to their use case
@@ROMRreviews To go from 500 miles to 690 is of little benefit. Most bladders can't handle more than 4 hours of sitting. You're going to stop long before you reach 690 miles. Drive an EV for a few years and you will know things like charging curve and software matter more.
@@melvinholland9656 people want the option of not having to stop and spend an hour charging your vehicle when you don't have the time. The majority of people want this PHEV option over a BEV and the public's response is clearly telling manufacturers that. During the week when people are mostly driving locally they can go full electric and when they want to take longer drives on the weekends they don't have to worry about finding EV charges or wanting in line for one. Plus it's one less concern during winter months when EV range is reduced to various levels depending on how cold it is where you live.
@@jlv3xNo one spends 1 hour at a Supercharger, especially if the battery is preconditioned by choosing the Supercharger long before arriving there. 20 minutes or so charging is it. How many 1,000 or 2,000 mile roads trips do people take every year? Few to none. Driving long distances is a waste of time, money, hotel costs, days off and wear and tear on a vehicle. Take a jet and get there in a few hours. Rent a vehicle at the destination. Gas vehicles require stopping at a gas station every week. That's many hours wasted every year. There's next to no maintenance on EVs. No oil changes. No catalytic converter theft or muffler damage. No transmission or fluid changes. No transfer cases or oil changes. No brake pad or rotor wear. No spark plugs or plug packs. No belts or chains. Hundreds of less parts and no maintenance. No wonder so many Americans are poor and struggling. They can't do math and they have no critical thinking skills.
@@dvader3263I can’t for the life of me understand why people act like people drive these long distances monthly or something! When I say long distance, I’m talking well over 800 miles or more in a single trip. Most people will get on a plane with those type distances. Even the one time a year you may drive that, you’re definitely stopping and taking a decent break!
This seems like a lot of engineering for little gain. Essentially you’re talking about 25mpg with that 27 gallon tank and 690 miles. The only plus is there is no transmission but you have the charge cycle life of the batteries to consider, so it seems like a wash.
If your primary use case is traveling 690 miles at a time, then yes, this isn't the vehicle needed for the job. This platform is for people who normally daily drive within the EV range of 140 miles and occasionally want to tow longer distance
I just read its been canceled till further notice. Rams are in big trouble. Stellantis is eliminating the brand slowly. Quality is beyond horrible. 24 1500 with 5000 miles transmission destroyed already. Im a devoted ram fan but i might be making the dreaded switch to ford.
The Wagoneer is absolute trash. I’m a service advisor at a CDJR dealership, when one of those things pulls in, I run from the desk. It’s always some unfixable nightmare that someone just paid 100 thousand dollars for. It’s the Renegade XL! The Fiat line is dog shit, avoid the new Wagoneer and the Grand Cherokees like the plague. Go get a CX5 while you still can!
@ on the Wagoneer we see a lot of issues with the 3 (or 4) touchscreens, they change settings repeatedly without pressing on the screen or they lock up all together. This affects the navigation, audio system and all of the HVAC settings. We also have a lot of issues with the rear hatch, sometimes it’ll pop open on its own and won’t shut no matter what you do and other times they won’t open at all. We also see a lot of issues with the seats, some of them have massage seats, which honestly rarely work properly, we have a lot of trouble with the massage seats. We’ve done repairs inside the seats, replaced modules and fixed bad connections. Everyone complains about the automatic high-beams and lane assist and night vision features as they rarely seem to work properly. On the Cherokee’s or Cherokee L‘s we see the same issues with the touchscreens, also a lot of them not starting or not shutting off because the RF antenna fails and it doesn’t see the keys. These also have a lot of issues with the heating and air conditioning, especially on the hybrids with the electric heaters. I’ve already had to pull the entire interior apart of two of them to replace AC evaporator cores that leaked. I’m not even considering the insane amount of recalls both of these vehicles have had since launch.
Keep in mind these are cars with under 10,000 miles on them that are only a year or two old! Just wait until the 10,000 mile oil change recommendation catches up with the twin turbo hurricane.
Like people are not paying attention or in denial...EV's are flat lining....Canoo went bankrupt...Rivian just got 6.8B from Joe Biden to stay alive..top EV producer in Europe filed C11...
KEEP KILLING IT FELLAS!
Appreciate it guys!
I’m excited to see the ram charger. Especially longevity wise. If the batteries can last and are easy to replace, this truck can serve not only as a great way to drive around town cheaply, but also as a portable generator for my house
If this new Ramcharger is available with a 6-foot bed and the split tailgate, and without Ramboxes, they'll get my money.
Highly doubtful you get 6 foot bed anytime soon
I have made up in my mind I want this truck man! I been wanting one for awhile that gave the most versatility and this answers the bell
It sure brings a ton to the table. Ok.... Half ton
The funniest part was when he said " cold hard facts" from stellantis🤣🤣🤣
Dad jokes
I just joined, I look forward to see what else y'all get up to.
Pizza, tacos. That's about it. (No cheese)
If it were up to me, I'd bump those towing and payload numbers up a hair for the RamCharger and make it a 2500, then bump them down for the REV 1500.
Thanks for this. You gents are doing a great job bringing the updates as quick as possible. I haven't seen any other channel as expeditious as y'all have been. Really hoping we hear something soon on the trims and off-road options that will be offered for both the Rev and Ramcharger.
Only real news was 33 inch tires will be largest offered across the STLA platform and 24in water fording.
Yeah, Ramcharger info seems to be scarce, sure hope it picks up soon and that substantial testing and production of Ramcharger really comes to fruition. So much potential with the Ramcharger powertrain. -- powerful possibilities, literally.
Thanks for the info.
You bet
I am a very early reservation holder and I never ever get any updates or correspondence from ram regarding my order.
I'm not hopeful about ever seeing my order.
If it's like any other traditional manufacturer, you'll get about 3 days notice
As someone who has owned a tesla, if you live in a small town they AREN't for you. You'll spend more time charging than driving. So the RAMREV doesn't make sense. The RAM Charger does chick boxes. I made several cross county trips in a tesla, and a 14 hour drive (AZ to Dallas) took 2 days because of the charging delays. If the ramrev had a 800 mile on paper range, and 5-600 mile actual range I would swing that way too,
Do you know if the ram charger will have snow plow package available or the ability to add a snow plow
No idea
I think the Ramcharger is the best idea for those that want an electrified truck. But given the track record for Stellantis products (and frankly most new trucks) I wouldn't touch them with a 10ft pole. I have friends with new (22-now) trucks from all current US manufacturers, and they've ALL had their trucks spend extended periods of time, sometimes for electronic demons that plague the software, to unexplained catastrophic failures. Yes, all covered under warranty but when you need your truck to make a living, this is a huge problem.
Let's hope other manufacturers follow suit with range extender trucks. At least that way, we might have a chance at getting a somewhat reliable vehicle.
That's where all the momentum is at right now
The appeal for me has less to do with EXTRA range than it does the ability to charge itself with a gas engine, that and the huge battery can run my house in a pinch.
People seem to be rolling their eyes at the extra range claiming nobody drives that far, etc. That is not the point. Few people drive that far in a conventional gas engine in one trip.
Nobody wants to be stranded at a charging station for half an hour + ever. If it takes more than 5 minutes to fill my sedan ALL the way up with gas from empty, something's wrong, and I'm probably finding another gas station.
Also, gas is portable. If you're not paying as close attention as you should to the needle and you run out, someone can bring you more gas. And if you really want, you can simply carry extra gas. Not ever the case with electricity.
The self charging is independence.
Yep. The whole conversation around "range anxiety" deeply flawed. It's not a range problem. It's a recharging problem.
Loaded up and towing with my LX my range is realistically about 180 miles. Does that worry me at all? Nope. My kids's bladder or stomach won't make it that far anyway.
We like EVs and have owned a few but their use case is still very limited. Manufacturers have been fixated on the wrong problem. Hopefully that tide is turning.
I am torn on the charger vs rev. While the distance is awesome for the Charger you still have oil changes and other maintenance costs vs just being able to charge at home. I am really waiting to see what the actual tow range is with the ram rev.
We think towing range will come as quite a shock. Pun intended.
Yes, but if you drive around a city most of the time and use the Charger to tow a rec trailer a few times a year, your oil changes will be maybe once every 2 years or so. You will be driving battery only for the most part, never using the V6 to generate. Quite possible only putting on 1,000km in a year on that engine on the highway.
This is what I am hoping. But when price comes out will be the final factor. If it is way more expensive for the charger than the rev I might go with the rev. If it can haul 250 miles on 90% of the battery.
For those who are enamored with the potential of the REV and Charger, understand Stellantis is having severe difficulty with EVs. Dodge Charger EVs are bricking at dealerships. More than half the EVs at the Windsor production facility (they only make 10-12 a day) won't charge. Wagoneer S has the same problem. Not true? Take a look at TK's Garage video today where he shares photos and texts from employees. But the REV and RAM Charger will be good to go in a few months?? These two gentlemen are selling the sizzle. The substance is a different story.
We're relaying information as it's released. If there's new information released tomorrow about delays or credible information on issues, we'll pass that along as well - as we just did on the software induced delays for Jeep
Don't believe everything you hear from TK. His info is not always correct. WAP has been building many more then 10 a day for quite awhile now. Think 10x that and then some. Just shows he doesn't have as many sources as he wants everyone to believe, he just keeps spouting the same stuff every day.
What dealerships have the new Charger? It hasn't been released yet.
Any idea what the payloads for mid to upper tier trims will be? It’d be nice to get at least ~1,500 lbs on loaded Laramies or Limiteds.
Nothing trim specific. However, the quoted payloads of 2625 will likely be in well equipped units, as that's what we would expect to show up for first model year
Yall should do a give away for a portable water heater.
Questions: How many charge cycles will the RAMCHARGER be capable of sustaining? What home adapters will be available to charge the RAMCHARGER? What size fuel tank will the RAMCHARGER have?
I don't think charging cycle data is available yet. Fuel tank is going to be 27 gallons.
I'm not sure what you're looking for on the home charger info. There are tons of those on the market now.
Wtf i have been a ram insider plus member for a long time and I get no communication from them about reserving my spot. Gonna call and get my money back
Things have been in flux for quite some time so it's not too surprising they have been quiet as hell
It seems to me any ICE/EV hybrid long range vehicle can;to be sold for anything less than $100k. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the complexity involved means not only does they have to price the cost of materials and development into the price, but also expected warranty claims. A big reason why modern ICE cars are so expensive is because the traditional carmakers are pricing the horrible warranty expenses involved.
Because of battery size? Plug-in parallel hybrids are already everywhere on the market today, and far more complicated than the series hybrids in development.
This video convinced me cancel my rev insider membership. Zero info through that program and cant even figure out how to choose rev vs ramcharger. F those guys. They are mailing me my check
Ha...check the RAM 1500 delivery dates...they said the same thing...can't fulfill custom orders...Spring is Stellantis speak for Fall...
Thanks for the schedule update
EREV pickup ...gimmy gimmy gimmy!
Can't wait!
Right now with delays…it comes down with price. If they failed to deliver anything below $53k (below lighting )they might be screwed.
Everything else doesn’t matter because people want cheaper stuff.
People pay for good
@ the current car market disagrees
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I own two EVs and Silverado V8. I would be very reluctant to purchase the RAM REV or RAM Charger. All legacy manufacturers have problems with EV software, hence the delay. They're obtaining the 500 miles on the REV by utilizing a massive 229 kWh battery pack. This will take close to an hour, if not more, to go from 10% to 80% at a DCFC. Low tech. On the RAM Charger... why? Complexity for very little benefit and yesterday's 400-volt architecture. Just stay with pure ICE and get over 500 miles. At least Scout (VW) had the good sense to use Rivian's software.
What do you mean by "very little benefit"? For whom? 80% of the buyers are putting down money for extended range hybrids, so they must feel there's substantial benefit to their use case
@@ROMRreviews To go from 500 miles to 690 is of little benefit. Most bladders can't handle more than 4 hours of sitting. You're going to stop long before you reach 690 miles. Drive an EV for a few years and you will know things like charging curve and software matter more.
@@melvinholland9656 people want the option of not having to stop and spend an hour charging your vehicle when you don't have the time. The majority of people want this PHEV option over a BEV and the public's response is clearly telling manufacturers that. During the week when people are mostly driving locally they can go full electric and when they want to take longer drives on the weekends they don't have to worry about finding EV charges or wanting in line for one. Plus it's one less concern during winter months when EV range is reduced to various levels depending on how cold it is where you live.
@@jlv3xNo one spends 1 hour at a Supercharger, especially if the battery is preconditioned by choosing the Supercharger long before arriving there.
20 minutes or so charging is it.
How many 1,000 or 2,000 mile roads trips do people take every year? Few to none.
Driving long distances is a waste of time, money, hotel costs, days off and wear and tear on a vehicle.
Take a jet and get there in a few hours. Rent a vehicle at the destination.
Gas vehicles require stopping at a gas station every week. That's many hours wasted every year.
There's next to no maintenance on EVs.
No oil changes.
No catalytic converter theft or muffler damage.
No transmission or fluid changes.
No transfer cases or oil changes.
No brake pad or rotor wear.
No spark plugs or plug packs.
No belts or chains.
Hundreds of less parts and no maintenance.
No wonder so many Americans are poor and struggling. They can't do math and they have no critical thinking skills.
@@dvader3263I can’t for the life of me understand why people act like people drive these long distances monthly or something! When I say long distance, I’m talking well over 800 miles or more in a single trip. Most people will get on a plane with those type distances. Even the one time a year you may drive that, you’re definitely stopping and taking a decent break!
This seems like a lot of engineering for little gain. Essentially you’re talking about 25mpg with that 27 gallon tank and 690 miles. The only plus is there is no transmission but you have the charge cycle life of the batteries to consider, so it seems like a wash.
If your primary use case is traveling 690 miles at a time, then yes, this isn't the vehicle needed for the job. This platform is for people who normally daily drive within the EV range of 140 miles and occasionally want to tow longer distance
That’s a good point. So there is some merit there.
Buy a ford and I love my Ford hybrid f160 it’s faster than anything and 30 mpg
I just read its been canceled till further notice. Rams are in big trouble. Stellantis is eliminating the brand slowly. Quality is beyond horrible. 24 1500 with 5000 miles transmission destroyed already. Im a devoted ram fan but i might be making the dreaded switch to ford.
Link?
Transmissions are the same as always and they are Bullitproof. One random truck issue probably.
The Wagoneer is absolute trash. I’m a service advisor at a CDJR dealership, when one of those things pulls in, I run from the desk. It’s always some unfixable nightmare that someone just paid 100 thousand dollars for. It’s the Renegade XL! The Fiat line is dog shit, avoid the new Wagoneer and the Grand Cherokees like the plague. Go get a CX5 while you still can!
What's the most common issue?
@ on the Wagoneer we see a lot of issues with the 3 (or 4) touchscreens, they change settings repeatedly without pressing on the screen or they lock up all together. This affects the navigation, audio system and all of the HVAC settings. We also have a lot of issues with the rear hatch, sometimes it’ll pop open on its own and won’t shut no matter what you do and other times they won’t open at all. We also see a lot of issues with the seats, some of them have massage seats, which honestly rarely work properly, we have a lot of trouble with the massage seats. We’ve done repairs inside the seats, replaced modules and fixed bad connections. Everyone complains about the automatic high-beams and lane assist and night vision features as they rarely seem to work properly. On the Cherokee’s or Cherokee L‘s we see the same issues with the touchscreens, also a lot of them not starting or not shutting off because the RF antenna fails and it doesn’t see the keys. These also have a lot of issues with the heating and air conditioning, especially on the hybrids with the electric heaters. I’ve already had to pull the entire interior apart of two of them to replace AC evaporator cores that leaked. I’m not even considering the insane amount of recalls both of these vehicles have had since launch.
Keep in mind these are cars with under 10,000 miles on them that are only a year or two old! Just wait until the 10,000 mile oil change recommendation catches up with the twin turbo hurricane.
EVs are dead. Ain't nobody got time for that!
Like people are not paying attention or in denial...EV's are flat lining....Canoo went bankrupt...Rivian just got 6.8B from Joe Biden to stay alive..top EV producer in Europe filed C11...