It would be decent if the F1 teams released a 2-3 yr old version of their sims to see just how close/far the retail sims are to it, I’m sure they would sell really well too
Consumer PC's wouldn't be able to run it. There's so much complexity in modelling the dynamic behaviour of the systems, especially tyres that it wouldn't be feasible. Plus the code is very proprietary
@@joostin123, I highly doubt that. It looks to me like all of the teams are using Rfactor Pro (which is not sold to consumers, yes, but is a derivative of consumer grade simulations, even if their development is overseen by different devs).
@@flyingphoenix113 its well known in the sim racing community that a lot of f1 teams start off with rfactor pro, with their own devs working with rfactor devs to develop the tyre model, physics engine etc into something more proprietary and suited to their use case. so every team who uses it will have an in house developed version of rfactor pro all with different tyre models and behaviours, laser scanned tracks and the ability (as was mentioned in the video) to easily change car physics data like downforce, setup, engine, weight etc. Ferrari uses a similarly developed version of Assetto Corsa (pro) as far as i know.
@@SHRModding didn't expect to see you here. Ferrari is very secretive about the base software used for their simulation programs. Knowing their history with Kunos, I wouldn't be surprised.
Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team: As always tou aer ahead of the pack with the open door approach to what is going on for the fans and future engineers. Wishing you all the best for this weekend.
As someone who just got into the sport this year this is very insightful. The challenges of nailing that perfect setup, and perfecting the race weekend is something I've always wanted to learn more about. As an American I mostly know more about what race teams do in NASCAR, but it's always great to learn more about Formula 1. Thank you for sharing this. This is why y'all are my favorite team. Good luck next week in Mexico.
It's a great video. I wonder how the engineers verify that the simulator is giving a realistic result. Perhaps a little more details on validation would help. All the best at Istanbul park!!
Very informative video, it is very interesting to see the different aspects of Formula 1. I'd like to ask for an official release of those team shirts, I would love to have a few of them! There are only polos, T-shirts or short-sleeved versions on the store, I found that no team sells them. :) Thank you for the video, good luck on the track!
Wish you would have gone into more detail of the actual simulation systems, as I understand the teams, specifically Mercedes use rFactor Pro for the on-track simulations, which again as I understand is the same physics engine we get in rFactor 2. From having driven lots of various racecars, but obviously not F1, I can say it feels exceedingly realistic with the right hardware. Incredible that we can have home simulators that are so very close to the real thing.
Thank you for sharing! Interesting how different industries use the same standards and methods. Ark Invest analysts use the Monte Carlo method in predicting future stock prices.
Isn’t it wonderful how all these German engineers from Mercedes have mastered speaking English without any accent? 🤣 I do enjoy these video’s a lot though! 👍
Oh man, to have a chance to drive in that sim would be a dream come true. Getting to drive the W12 in iRacing will be amazing of course but that would be peanuts compared to this. Out of pure curiosity, do any non drivers from the Mercedes team ever jump in the sim? Unless there are rules against it I'd think that it would be hard to resist if you had an interest in that kind of thing.
Two questions: 1. Are you allowed to input race data as it unfolds, into your simulator, to help narrow down the potential outcome? Or do you simple crunch the number and eliminate the incorrect ones as the race unfolds. I imagine the former because the permutations must be enormous. 2. As you say, the computers allow you think about a race in a way that humans cannot. But do you ever compare the human to the computer? For example the lap you asked Lewis to put vs the lap he actually came in (Sochi 2021) vs the computer models/predictions?
So this actually brings an interesting question out of all simulation you guys do it would be interesting to find out if actually after post race sim review the simulator actually provided the data how the race actually turned out. But that result was ommited. That would be really interesting to find out
Hi Mercedes i have two questions A: can you do some more simple science Videos? I really enjoyed watching them and believed it would really help me in my run up to my gcse's. B: how much would i have to pay you to be able to have an hour on your sim lol
How do the simulation engineers ensure the physics and adjustments are realistic. How do you ensure the camber adjustment is realistic if the physics is off or a curb doesn't react how it should for example Thank you
Well if I worked in F1, and my job didn't put me in the driver seat, then it sure would put me on the simulator team. Must be awesome and hugely interesting.
So, how you actually simulate a change in mechanical settings? How can driver feel it on simulator? Bumps, do you guys go to the circuit early for measurements?
Really interesting stuff there but it shows why the lower teams will never be able to compete to this level as its a night and day difference in the the budgets, technology and people behind the scenes. The actual races make up such a small percentage of what goes into a race weekend.
Does the simulator get better as the season goes on? Like halfway through the season you input the real drive info from past races into the computer to make it as realistic?
We're constantly developing and evolving the simulator tool each week, with new input from the drivers, sim drivers and engineers, so it's something that is always improving and being developed
Interesting that the technique for modelling the entire race sounds similar to how weather forecasts are done. Millions of simulations with slightly different parameters to try and get an idea of the most likely outcomes.
Do you ever run simulations where there are opponents for the driver, either AI or human controlled? I would assume it would be helpful to test and practice how difficult driving in dirty air and overtaking could be at a certain track.
Are there any specific topics you’d like us to explain in detail, like this video on simulation tools? Let us know 😊👇
Aerodynamics or carbon fiber manufacturing 👌
Carbon fiber manufacturing & research
Please tell us how to get that Desktop wallpaper(Blue lines)
How's the communication in the pit, when the crew is about to cahnge tyres?
what are the stuggles?
Drivers pick
"What is a F1 simulator?"
Lewis: "Exactly."
oh hi there, great seeing you here!!
@@mohammed_the_train_spotter Lactose 4
@@NeelkanthEarthmovers yes
Imagine all this simulation, planning and strategy making and the car gets taken out in the first corner on race day.
I see what you did there.... 😂😂😂
Dont worry, it was part of the simulation.
It's all part of the great ferrari master🅱️lan
@@divyanshcr_ it's 🅱️ottas plan bro.
LOL, or you have a weekend like what happened at Spa.
Meanwhile in Haas: Is Real Racing 3 good enough?
For Mazespin? Sure!
@@Conservator. thats old now
🤣😂
You are so wrong for this! 🤣🤣🤣
They should use NFS bro
Back in the day, Jacques Villeneuve learned the layout of the tracks in his first F1 season by playing an F1 game on his Playstation.
You’ll never better the realism of Sega’s Virtua Racing. Quality polygons at 14fps
I still have that game
Small polygon count, big heart
I still have my 32X version
It would be decent if the F1 teams released a 2-3 yr old version of their sims to see just how close/far the retail sims are to it, I’m sure they would sell really well too
Consumer PC's wouldn't be able to run it. There's so much complexity in modelling the dynamic behaviour of the systems, especially tyres that it wouldn't be feasible. Plus the code is very proprietary
Telling you know. Consumer sims are still 20 years away from this kind of technology
@@joostin123, I highly doubt that. It looks to me like all of the teams are using Rfactor Pro (which is not sold to consumers, yes, but is a derivative of consumer grade simulations, even if their development is overseen by different devs).
@@flyingphoenix113 its well known in the sim racing community that a lot of f1 teams start off with rfactor pro, with their own devs working with rfactor devs to develop the tyre model, physics engine etc into something more proprietary and suited to their use case. so every team who uses it will have an in house developed version of rfactor pro all with different tyre models and behaviours, laser scanned tracks and the ability (as was mentioned in the video) to easily change car physics data like downforce, setup, engine, weight etc. Ferrari uses a similarly developed version of Assetto Corsa (pro) as far as i know.
@@SHRModding didn't expect to see you here. Ferrari is very secretive about the base software used for their simulation programs. Knowing their history with Kunos, I wouldn't be surprised.
One of the many reasons I like Mercedes. They give you so much information about f1 unlike other teams...
Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team: As always tou aer ahead of the pack with the open door approach to what is going on for the fans and future engineers.
Wishing you all the best for this weekend.
🙏🙏🙏
This is so interesting!
You guys are legends for sharing this amazing stuff!
Danke Mercedes ! 😁
We share this insight for everyone out there wanting to know more about our wonderful sport 😊🙏
mercedes is now a british team.
@@pesvids6673 mercedes was and always will be German 🇩🇪
@@svenzerx8490
Those wonderful German engineers have learned to speak English to perfection😜
Their simulator has so much technology they probably spent more money on this alone than what Haas spent on their development
Nice observation!
And that shows…
Positive feedback loop… :(
Haas is the only team that doesn't have a simulator
Do you HAAS has got no racing simulator
It's so great that Mercedes is sharing the engineering side of the sport. Keep more engineering content coming!
Learnt a lot from this. Thanks Mercedes.
You are very welcome 😊
As someone who just got into the sport this year this is very insightful. The challenges of nailing that perfect setup, and perfecting the race weekend is something I've always wanted to learn more about. As an American I mostly know more about what race teams do in NASCAR, but it's always great to learn more about Formula 1. Thank you for sharing this. This is why y'all are my favorite team. Good luck next week in Mexico.
As an automation engineer, I feel like a kid in a candy store watching this video 😍 Thanks for sharing this!!!
😊
Thank you very much for sharing this information with us.. much appreciated ! Learning something new today keep up the Good content🤩🥳🙌🏻
That’s what we are here to do: inform and entertain 😝🙏
Mercedes once again far ahead of the pack educating and entertaining us about the F1 sport. Well done guys.
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This is exactly why I became an aerospace engineer! Really cool stuff!!!
It's a great video. I wonder how the engineers verify that the simulator is giving a realistic result. Perhaps a little more details on validation would help. All the best at Istanbul park!!
Classic video! Love learning all about behind the scenes happenings in the factory.
3:57 That's a lovely shot! Can you ask your friend at Twitter to make a wallpaper of this please? Thanks in advance!
why do you want to see some dudes sitting next to track as a wallpaper?
It never ceases to amaze me how a group of perople that have never driven an F1 car can design such accurate simulation.
The sim engineers to actually drive the sim as well to check for correlation and accuracy, they're a clever bunch of people!
@@MercedesAMGF1 Yeah, the Sim, but not an REAL F1 car. 😉
@@MercedesAMGF1 yes yes, but i meant that theu have never driven a REAL f1 car and can create an accurate simulation :)
well the drivers can give input if it is realistic or not and also F1 is physics, if you get the physics right it should be right in the sim
wow! thank you Mercedes for this video detailing the simulation tools you use.
Very informative video, it is very interesting to see the different aspects of Formula 1. I'd like to ask for an official release of those team shirts, I would love to have a few of them! There are only polos, T-shirts or short-sleeved versions on the store, I found that no team sells them. :) Thank you for the video, good luck on the track!
I have liked knowing how F1 Simulation tools are used and how the Teams us them to help with driving in grand prix weekend.
Wish you would have gone into more detail of the actual simulation systems, as I understand the teams, specifically Mercedes use rFactor Pro for the on-track simulations, which again as I understand is the same physics engine we get in rFactor 2. From having driven lots of various racecars, but obviously not F1, I can say it feels exceedingly realistic with the right hardware. Incredible that we can have home simulators that are so very close to the real thing.
that race planner is sooo interesting!
Great content again, thanks team!
Thanks for watching! ❤️
Mercedes seems to be such a wonderful place to work!
Love it! Thanks for the great insight! Getting my application in for placements soon ;)
How am I only seeing this video now... These types of videos are the most interesting ones
This team is so cool! Love to see these videos 👍🏾
More to come!
I did not expected to see the best tool right in the start of video
Great work, guys. Fascinating stuff 👌
Thank you for sharing! Interesting how different industries use the same standards and methods. Ark Invest analysts use the Monte Carlo method in predicting future stock prices.
I use monte carlo in digital signal processing. It's used everywhere
@@jaykickliter so cool. Who else uses it guys? Chime in!
WOW WOW WOW ~! Amazing to find out just how much time and effort is needed to participate in the race. Thank you for the tour ~! Thumbs up ~!
These guys have the coolest jobs
I was surprised to see I wasn’t subscribed. Just did... thank you so much Mercedes 💙💜
This was terrific!. Thank you.
Wow! Great work for some race engineers!
Just build a rocket already Mercedes.
*Mercedes:* Gives us a few days.
Wow it's incredible 😍 👏 🙌 ❤ 👌
Always wanted to know more about this 👌
Hopefully you now know more! 😊
Great video, tks for sharing your work constantly! Love to see your content.
Glad you enjoy it!
Portimão and Mugello, my
Technology like this is amazing, especially if the sim is just an in-house sim (or modified from something like Assetto Corsa)
Needs to be made in-house if they need to simulate parts and other aspects.
Wow simply amazing. 100 gigabytes of data seems like a hectic one to analyse but great job to the respective engineers.
imagine a team hacks in and changes all data
No words, first-class video , This is the fine life,wow, very first-class.
Great video!
Isn’t it wonderful how all these German engineers from Mercedes have mastered speaking English without any accent? 🤣
I do enjoy these video’s a lot though! 👍
Ha Ha. Very clever.
The factory is in UK. Most of them are british or live in England, at least
@@rodrigolara6487 Massive, massive wooosh
Very nice video Mercedes
Sehr schönes Video Mercedes
Can you guys do a video that follows one person through a workday, could be mechanic, or anything really
Btw I love your videos
Nice idea!
I am not a Merc fan but this video's are clear
Raise the rear wing when at low speed (turns)
They lower the rear wing when they are on the straight.
Or, depending on the speed!
Oh man, to have a chance to drive in that sim would be a dream come true. Getting to drive the W12 in iRacing will be amazing of course but that would be peanuts compared to this.
Out of pure curiosity, do any non drivers from the Mercedes team ever jump in the sim? Unless there are rules against it I'd think that it would be hard to resist if you had an interest in that kind of thing.
i saw a video where the mercedes team have their own sim tester driver who would test the sim firsthand
I'd _love_ to take this thing for a spin for a couple of laps as a simracing enthusiast.
Two questions:
1. Are you allowed to input race data as it unfolds, into your simulator, to help narrow down the potential outcome? Or do you simple crunch the number and eliminate the incorrect ones as the race unfolds. I imagine the former because the permutations must be enormous.
2. As you say, the computers allow you think about a race in a way that humans cannot. But do you ever compare the human to the computer? For example the lap you asked Lewis to put vs the lap he actually came in (Sochi 2021) vs the computer models/predictions?
So this actually brings an interesting question out of all simulation you guys do it would be interesting to find out if actually after post race sim review the simulator actually provided the data how the race actually turned out. But that result was ommited. That would be really interesting to find out
2:12 Very interesting to see how much they expect everyone to get out of their car.
Is it just me or does that simulator look comfy af like you could watch a movie in it
It's a wrap-around screen, too, so the perfect view
Hi Mercedes i have two questions
A: can you do some more simple science
Videos? I really enjoyed watching them and believed it would really help me in my run up to my gcse's.
B: how much would i have to pay you to be able to have an hour on your sim lol
Hey!, Mercedes
Love you.
How do the simulation engineers ensure the physics and adjustments are realistic. How do you ensure the camber adjustment is realistic if the physics is off or a curb doesn't react how it should for example
Thank you
Does your simulator using iRacing or is it something developed internal?
Hey Mercedes, who spends more time in the sim Lewis or Valteri
Haas: Is Real Racing 3 good enough?
this is so interesting!
Thanks!
so basically the gaming session of free practice
Not only our KA, but all the KAs.
The best team
Well if I worked in F1, and my job didn't put me in the driver seat, then it sure would put me on the simulator team. Must be awesome and hugely interesting.
So, how you actually simulate a change in mechanical settings? How can driver feel it on simulator? Bumps, do you guys go to the circuit early for measurements?
fun fact: Valtteri Bottas used to play Live For Speed till 2009
How are the sim tracks made? or are they ported from sims like ACC and RF2 which have high quality laser scans.
Or they probably already have access to laser scans of the tracks already.
I’m an artist. I would like a whole strategy team and a simulator... well, no I wouldn’t. It’s still cool
Mercedes : Asseto Corsa
Redbull : F1 2021
Ferrari : Gran Turismo
Alpine : Forza
Haas : Real Racing 3
Haas F1 2006 in the Playstation 2
Really interesting stuff there but it shows why the lower teams will never be able to compete to this level as its a night and day difference in the the budgets, technology and people behind the scenes. The actual races make up such a small percentage of what goes into a race weekend.
All models are wrong but some are useful - George Box
How do you recreate the track in 3D? (tarmac, grip, kerbs, camber...)
the first thing that came to my mind was cfd
And to think this team started out as Tyrrell Racing. I think Ken should have his name on the car.
Dear Mercedes, please share as much technical information with us as possible (obviously not the one which can't be shared)
What simulator are you using? RF Pro? AC Pro?
AC Pro dosent exist. RF Pro may be used as a base, but I expect it to be fully proprietary
@@thestibblr6637 ACpro exists since like 5 years.
Haas seeing this video: Uploads Mario kart 8 trailer
Extremely interesting! I really appreciate these peeks behind the curtain! Let's get that 8th for Hamilton!
You're very welcome! 😊
Does the simulator get better as the season goes on? Like halfway through the season you input the real drive info from past races into the computer to make it as realistic?
We're constantly developing and evolving the simulator tool each week, with new input from the drivers, sim drivers and engineers, so it's something that is always improving and being developed
Monte Carlo, still valid. Damn
Take my money and let me try this one time 🏎🏎👍👍👍
Mercedes: "We have a very small team."
***cries in Steiner***
Matt Wilkin looks like he retired from being agent 47.. Clean look.
What technologies do you use to code/build these complex simulations? I suppose it must have taken a lot of people and years to build this
that monte carlo model would benefit a lot from quantum computer.
Wondering what kind of tech stack it is behind it, how much of it is in house and what is licensed
I imagine they used kubernetes for clusters
Interesting that the technique for modelling the entire race sounds similar to how weather forecasts are done. Millions of simulations with slightly different parameters to try and get an idea of the most likely outcomes.
6:59 Imagine these programs would be open source 😩
Sehr gut 👍 🏁🏁🏁🍾
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@@MercedesAMGF1 Admin you are the best
Do you ever run simulations where there are opponents for the driver, either AI or human controlled? I would assume it would be helpful to test and practice how difficult driving in dirty air and overtaking could be at a certain track.
yes, and run trough race starts ... on what to expect or do in first corner.
F1 2021 open lobby obviously
I love Mercedes car ans team
Haas uses Thrustmaster T80 on a table
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