Forget the features. I have had both of them. Casio is much, much more robust. I believe that the Suunto looks cooler. But when you are out on in the wilderness you want an ultimate reliable watch. Suunto, whatever the features, is just not robust enough. I have broken two. From watch bands that bust to just plain malfunctioning, the Suunto is not as robust as the Casio. My latest Casio is a tough solar and it has not had it's initial battery changed for 9 yrs...! Ice-climbing, rock climbing and hiking.. it has taken a beating. But the Casio has typical Japanese reliability and if you ever have a problem you can get them waranteed just about anywhere.
I bought my son the Suunto Core in 2016 becuase we'd seen it worn by Denzel Washington on "The Equalizer" movie and thought it looked like a cool watch. After just under 2 years, the backlight button became semi-stuck in the half-depressed position such that the slightest touch turns on the light. It's not a huge deal, but is a bit annoying sometimes. The other thing was, after about a year and a half, the watch strap broke. WIth the very wide strap holes (slots) there are lots of weak points. The good news is, third party replacement straps can be purchased for about $12-15. I recently ordered a Suunto for myself just because I think it's a nice looking watch and it was on sale for $50 less than what I paid for my son's. . That said, if I were going to be using a watch like this for serious trekking and had to rely on it, I'd almost certainly go with the Casio. I'm not as hard on watches as my son so hopfully it will last a bit longer.
I've had the Suunto Core for a few years and have been very happy with it. Some say it's display is too dim in bright light making it hard to read but you can adjust the contrast which helps a lot. The only downside of the watch is the battery only lasts a year or so (I'm on 2 years for my current battery) but they're very easy to replace.
I've had the casio for 6 years, 6 continents and on mount Everest. Never changed the battery, the compass has near saved my life twice and been very important when ive been lost dozens of times. some of the features are too complex and un-intuitive to use, but altimeter, baro, compass, temp, are all really easy, time zone. If you're an explorer you certainly cannot trust a watch that isnt solar, I sure as hell wouldnt. the radio frequency controlled time is amazing, ive never set the time once in my life and it is always correct to the exact second. I do think they need to make a little bit of an update in the way it looks though, i love the band, its functionality is perfect, it does look slightly nerdy though. Survival watch 10/10, looks 7.8/10
I think core is a good ops watch for military(among the favorite watch within the military community other than garmin and g-shock) and police as well as outdoor enthusiasts but not the best when it comes into serious long trek being away from civilization for extended amount of time. Ill stick with G shock or pro trek for SHTF scenarios.
I agree with John Kennedy. I bought my Suunto Core All black and it fell apart in 2 years. First year the display started ghosting and you can see other indicators lightly appearing. The ring on the strap ripped and then the main wrist band actually ripped as well. I changed the band for $40. Never even went hiking or climbing. 2nd year the bezel fell off on its own while I was putting on my watch. This watch has never even been through rough conditions or under water. I used it for work at the office. No scratches at all. The customer support was even worse. They gave me a fake ticket number and never contacted me about my display issue. I had to call corporate sales office to get a hold of someone which directed me to an official partner store. In the end I didn't get support for to return the item as amazon said I had to deal with the manufacture directly. Watch was a huge disappointment. Paid $280.
Good to know that I'm not the only one whose strap broke twice. ( guess me picking up 70 lbs fabric rols is not one of Suunto's strenghts)The first one Suunto replaced after I got after them. The second time I just bought a cheap copy on Ebay.
At no point did you mention the superior durability of the Casio, or the the fact that it is solar powered and doesn't require the need to open the case to replace a battery like on the suunto. Great comparison otherwise. I feel like you were definitely biased towards the Suunto.
I didn't cover the fact that it's solar because it's apples to oranges and it's clear in every write up that its solar. I tried not to talk about things that are common knowledge, or easily identified in the manual or technical specs. If solar is a requirement, the. The Suunto isn't even on the list. I don't know that Casio has superior durability, and having both watches for a few days doesn't help me with that. Lastly, I did keep the Suunto as my watch of choice, and have been wearing every day since that decision. Truth be told, I expected to keep the Casio...until those little things started to add up as I wore and used it. That's why I made the video. Those things that I mention aren't easy to derive from technical specs, manuals, or the other reviews I have seen. So I may sound biased...because at at point I was pretty close to making my decision. I hadn't made it at that point, but I was leaning towards the Suunto. I really wanted it to be the Casio, honestly, because the display was more crisp and easier to read.
He wasn't saying you "covered up" the fact it was solar; he was saying you made a glaring omission by not listing one of the watches major features that make it stand out. Yikes..
I've had a core for 6 or 7 years and bashed it into everything didn't have a problem however I'd like to say that I bought 2 and both of their baro/temp sensors went out that's why I only had them about 6 or 7 years lol
I have been using my Protrek PRG-13 for more than 6 years already and it has never failed me. Never replaced the battery, thanks for the "Tough Solar" feature, changed the bracelet only once... Dropped it hundred times but no issue, my Protrek amaze most of my co workers...This guy seems to be a Suunto fan...
This is the best review i've found about the Suunto Core and i've searched a lot. Doing a comparison is brilliant because it truly shows what could be better or what is in this instance. I'm really grateful for your concise, no-bullshit, well explained review. Thanks!
Since these are watches, I'm surprised no discussion of time accuracy was mentioned during the video. The atomic time update on my Casio Pathfnder PAW-1500 is my most liked aspect of the watch. That and never worrying about the battery going dead. 7 years and no problems. I assume the Protrek performs similarly, but no mention of how accurately the Suunto keeps time is an odd omission for a timepiece review.
The reviewer left out the majority of the ProTrek features; its anyone's guess why he made a comparison video that leaves that out. I also love the atomic timekeeping, if you have a job the requires accurate times than its a huge bonus.
The Suunto can seem more user-friendly, but taking into consideration reputation of Casio's and basic specs (water resistance for example) one can be sure that Casio will be more durable and reliable. These watches are different breed - Casio is solar powered, has wave-controlled time
Always wanted a Suunto but, I hear to many about too many issues from people in the field/military who use them. Pretty much why I stick with Casio even if they have a smaller feature set. Solar, compass and outstanding build quality are great things to have.
@@NathanChisholm041 until the rechargeable battery can't hold a charge no more then it's just like a plane as watch with as plain battery... trust me I have a bunch of watch that run on sunlight.. they all die at some point
@@coldsummer3394 Yeah, but solar still lasts far longer than non-solar, therefore it's superior in this way. I've heard people claim their solar watch still going after 8+ years.
+Gerri Mesker to be honest it's not exactly like cr2032 batteries are hard to come by. carry several in your first aid kit as they can be used not only for powering a dead watch but for starting fires in emergencies. solar is convenient but meh. i replace cr2032 batteries like cutting my fingernails, you can buy a box of 5 for a dollar..
+Gerri Mesker So interesting fact....I just had to replace the battery for the first time in my Suunto Core this week. It reset or something...not sure...but noticed some of my settings were different, like beep was enabled when I had it disabled. When I looked at it, I saw the battery symbol for the first time....and honestly have no idea how long it was there...but didn't notice it before. Anyway...walked into the kitchen, grabbed a spare cr2032 of out the drawer, and put it in. Easy. It might seem like a negative to need to change batteries, but not for me. My old Casio G-Shock Gullfman is solar powered, and the battery eventually died on that. I couldn't find a replacement battery anywhere locally. Jewelry stores wanted a small fortune to change it. I ended up ordering a battery from Amazon, and installing it myself. The watch was down for over a week when this happened. I'm a fan of solar....but I don't mind changeable common batteries either.
+EVERYTHING cpo Right you are, solar watches resistors CAN and do die, esp if they go completely dead for an extended period of time. Park it on the window sill! Then it'll get that atomic reset every night as well.
Great Comparison, casio is solar AND ATOMIC. Kinda cool that the watch is to the second accurate all the time. I do love all the graphing and log stuff an all dot matrix suunto is capable of.
I have both and i use the suunto for everyday living and i just had to send it to suunto because the buttons keep getting stuck. My casio protek 3500 on the other hand has been with me on camping, kayaking, mountain biking, paintballing,surfing. Still works like it just came out of the box.
On the Casio, turn off button tone and the light stays on while pushing buttons, but only for 3 seconds, also it has the auto light feature just flip your wrist to look at it during dark conditions, hold the light button for 3-5 seconds and "LT" display lower right.
I had the core for 3 years and it's just clinging to life. 2 years in, the rubber wrist strap disintegrated on me. All the features don't work but it still tells time. I sent it back to Suunto and because it's out of warranty they offered to replace the guts of the watch for $200. So now I'm looking for another brand.
Guy's my brother was SF for 12 year's. I bought him the core for his b'day. It lasted 2 weeks. The buttons didn't work and band broke. So I felt bad and got him a Casio prg 240. That was 5 year's ago and he still wears it. There is no comparison. The core is garbage.
I have both and i use the suunto for everyday living and i just had to send it to suunto because the buttons keep getting stuck. My casio protek 3500 on the other hand has been with me on camping, kayaking, mountain biking, paintballing,surfing. Still works like it just came out of the box.
Biased review. You skipped on important features on the Casio, which the Suunto doesn't have. Solar charging may not be important to you, but it is to others who actually use the watch to its maximum capacity.
Interesting comparison, even if, for my taste, I would not buy neither of the two. Actually I think that Casio has developed the PRW 3000 just to challenge the Suuntos in their market, but it's not the kind of watch that make you really appreciate what Casio is really good at...which is: 1) the ability to put all the important data visible at a glance without having to constantlky press buttons and navigate through menus (for comparison, see other protrek models or the G-Shock Rangeman, a hell of a tank of a watch); 2) better build quality and shock resistance: many Sunto owners report different kind of failures, this is really not good for a watch that has to withstand the wilderness; 3)autonomy and self-sufficiency: Casio, at this time, has got the better solar powering technology avaible on the market; On the other hand, Suunto seems to be better at measuring data. For example, Casio has constantly improved his sensors, but I am still wondering why they never implemented a simple calculator to compensate the change in barometric pressure due to the variation of altitude... in other words, every change in altitude (even simply go upstairs a building) spoils data needed for the meteo predictions, and with Casios there is no way to compensate and recreate a barometric trend at sea level (you can still make your own calculations, but it is really boring). Having said that, my primary watch is a Protrek 6000. I prefer analogue hands, and this watch is both packed with functoins and very good looking (IMHO). You can wear it almost in every occasion, I love it!
Great review. I went with the Suunto Core All Black myself. I did all the review reading and video watching I could, but in the end, I don't trust anything I see on the internet besides consensuses. When I see both supporters and detractors saying X feature is great on brand A watch, I'll trust that. The Suunto offers everything I personally want and need. I don't need most of it's features, but those that I do have to be spot on and that to me is more important than anything else along with reliability and durability. Everything breaks, everything fails, nothing is perfect, but even if I heard 1000 "this watch sucks!" reviews, in context, that'd be 1000 out of thousands and one really also has to read in between the lines of the negative reviews (just as much as the positive reviews). One of my deciding factors was the Suunto's simplicity. It's a watch. It tells time. Whatever else it does, it's not in my face 24/7 unless I summon it. That was a big selling point for me. No, only time will tell how well it performs (no pun intended of course LOL).
Not to mention the fact the movie had a bogus stopwatch display made especially for the movie and doesn't feature on the actual watch. I purchased the Suunto because it had a large stopwatch display as shown in the movie. I was highly pissed off to find it wasn't a feature.
I think the battery can be looked at like a learning tool. You know that every year you will have to review the operation of the watch. Love the way the Suunto looks I hope the buttons hold up. I'm not the kind of guy that expects or wants a watch to last more than 3 or 4 years, especially these days when that length of time can make a world of difference in features. If I get 3 years I'll be happy. Great Video, thanks for all your work.
I have a solar powered Casio diamond watch for dressier occations so I think the Suunto will be a nice addition to my accessories, ha. The Casio looks nice and I had no problem with power but it's not as easy to read as the Suunto.
On the casio, The light only shuts off after you press each button because you have the button sound activated. If you disable the button sound then the light stays on while you press buttons
Lotta disgruntled Casio fans here. Yeah, the Suunto has the more accurate sensors and can predict the weather. As far as toughness, they have a great reputation among military. It's not a daily wear watch for me; I only use it in the outdoors so always start out with a fresh battery. I like this because I'm also always assured that the seal is new. It's also less bulky than most Casios, though I actually prefer the looks of the G-Shocks, personally. Edit: the Pro Trek is probably fine for most recreational uses; my opinion is based more on a 'survival' type usage, a situation where you'd probably want a back-up piece, anyway.
i will get the all stainless steel version of the Core, with safir glass, a bit beefier and a bit pricier, but worth it....greetings, Levi from Finland
I will tell you I loved the core all black because it looks cooler and is in the movie the equaliser. However in the end I brought the protrek simply because it's solar powered and the suunto is a major headache to get the battery changed. With my last Suunto the strap broke and the compass stopped working after battery replacement. Whereas all the protrek I have had work perfectly and are nice and durable as well as no battery issues. I just wish the protreks were made to look as aesthetically pleasing, but this prw 3000 is definitely a step in the right direction
just the comparison video I was looking for. Had a protrek before but I went suunto x lander years ago and looking for a new. These was the two options I came up with. Great watches both but the ultimate what I am looking for would be a suunto core with solar. hehe I was about to get the casio due to the solar, but after watching this video I think it will be suunto this time as well. I love the size of them, easy to handle with lots of gear and stuff on. So just have to recall bringing some extra batteries cause they drain fast when in use often. Great video mate :)
Nice review. What about battery life/charging? I have the 3000, and the charge lasts a LONG time: many months. I also have the automatic time syncing, which is fabulous on the 3000. Thank you.
I decided not to go into things that are easy to compare based on product descriptions. Comparing battery life between a solar watch and a non-solar watch is really apples and oranges. I just wanted to go into things that may not be obvious with regard to the user interface and functionality. Both have a stopwatch, both have alarm, both have timer ... But there is nothing in the specs that really helps you know how they are different - and not everyone will have the opportunity to have them both side by side and USE them to find those differences. :-) So anyway. Yeah... atomic and solar functions are pretty awesome. I really hoped I was going to like the Casio because that would have been nice. However, it was all of the little things that caused me to decide that solar and atomic synching weren't important enough in the long run. The timer and alarm and backlight are things I would notice daily. The battery change is a one or twice a year thing... And to be honest any Quartz watch is going to be plenty accurate once it's initially set...so the atomic feature, while nice, doesn't (to me) provide much practical benefit.
I didn't mention battery because it's apples and oranges. It's not realistic (to me) to compare battery life in a solar vs non-solar watch. Additionally, I tried to focus on things that you couldn't read on the package or in the product description. Estimated 10 years for the Casio and 6-12 months for the Suunto (depending on how much you use the compass and light). The Suunto has one if the EASIEST batteries to replace, as it is one of the few watches designed for user replacement. It can be replaced with a coin or pocket knife vs most watches that require a jewelers screwdriver. With that said, I have had to replace a battery in my casio solar watch -- I maybe got 10 years out of it. It was quite easy if you are familiar working with small electronics. Local shop wanted to charge me $40 to change it. I bought one online (not locally available), changed it myself while ensuring to re-seal the case by adding silicone grease to the rubber gasket. Oh... The Suunto battery. Available a Walmart or billion other local shops and cost a couple of bucks. Hope that helps.
I think the reason Casio's lower button (A) is up and the upper button (C) is down is a legacy thing. Early Casios, and still many today, don't have a down/decrement at all. You press the lower button to increment a value and if you miss your target you have to keep going and loop back to 0. The upper button does nothing. When they introduced the ability to decrement values in newer watches, they wanted to maintain consistency so they designated the upper button for that purpose. As someone with serious Casio muscle memory I'm happy they did. But I agree it's not very intuitive for newer users.
Here's the difference - Suunto is a piece of $hit, bc they tend to break or malfunction about a year after purchase, if not sooner. Suunto's batt sucks. Really the only positive about the Suunto is it looks cool, and it's the watch from the movie the Equalizer. Although the negative display looks really cool, it is not easy to look at in most scenarios, and especially in daylight, I could barely see it eating dinner in a well lit environment. Casio Protrek or Pathfinders are far superior in regards to quality, some of the older temp sensers are crap, but the newer are good (Protreks.) Casio is proven. If you have any conflicts about what I say about Suunto Core, then seriously, simply do your research, look at the MANY negative reviews on places like amazon. Don't make the mistake I did simply buying the Suunto for it's looks, it looks like the majority of these watches fail in a short period of time in at least some regards. The new Protreks imo look cooler than Suunto Core.
+John Kennedy yeah but you see, most of the people still find very important the design as well, where Casio is really failing at especially for the sports ones (G shock and this from the video). In the end it's probably a matter of taste, but I liked Casio only by the age of 15. All the times I see engineers colleagues with G shock at their hand I find it completely lack of style. But Edifice is another world of Casio, these I love very much. I think pricing is the only powerful advantage of Casio.
I just sent back a casio g shock master of g. Watch retails at 500 bucks. I haven't had it a year and I sent it back. My Compass screwed up and I couldn't fix it. The second hand started to stick and you would have to thump the watch to get it to start working again. Don't get me. Wrong, some g shocks may be awesome but I will never get another like that model. I'm going for this suunto all black military model. Give it a shot.
I love the casio g shocks. I just hated that mine had to be a flop. I wish the protrek didn't have the back light problem where you have to constantly press it. I remwmeber that on mine. It annoyed the crap out of me, other than that I loved it. Until it started messing up.
The reason the backlight times-out so quickly is for your own protection. There may be a reason you need to kill the backlight immediately as not to give your position away. It is much faster to be able to push any button to disable the backlight. As you pointed out though, it is also irritating if you desire the backlight to stay on.
was looking at the Suunto, but went with the Casio Prw 3500 instead... one of the main reasons i skipped the Suunto is because it has an inverted black background colour with light numbers, and having had a digital watch like that before it is much harder to read than a light background with black numbers... also not sure if the Suunto has the atomic clock radio reciever, and yes the solar on the Casio is great
You forget about sensor backlight at casio protrek. If you swing your hands motion like when you saw the watch. The backlight will on. Just hold the light button in the middle Until "LT" mode on
I may have missed this, but does the Casio not have dual display? I mean you can go into that specific mode, but on the regular display can you dual display times?
I have a Suunto Core..Casio PRW2500 and PAG240 Each watch does something that the other doesn't...which drives me crazy..Youd think someone at Casio wouldve done a lil R&D One has moon data..the other doesnt..One has sunset/rise..the othe doesnt..One has constant illumination..the others dont...One thing for sure..The Casio has solar powered and radio controlled..which makes the Casios a level above Suunto Core..Not to mention classic Casio durability
R u sure you cant hold the light button down for 3 secs like the g-shocks? My g-shock I hold the light button down for 3 secs and then every time I hit a button the light autos on. If I want to turn this feature off I hold the light button for an additional 3 seconds
Hi, very nice review :) I was wondering which altimeter works better, because i have the prw 3000 1er and the alti is perfect, well, it doesn't have the alti/baro block but this is not a big deal.. i use it almost every single day for hiking and running, and it's fine for me. But this summer i'll do a skydive aff course, so i need a functional altimeter watch, and i'm undecided to buy the vector, the core or simply keep my protrek. Which one should i choose? Thanks :)
loved your review, I own same Suunto core all black edition and I've had the same dilemma when I bought it, to whether go for a solar-powered orange Casio protrek or all black Suunto. I ended up getting a Suunto because of movie "Shooter" (Mark Wahlberg had the same piece ) and later "equalizer". But I want to know one thing from you, how is your strap holding out in Suunto, Mine torned out in 18 months, I think it had poor strap design because it torned right from the cut spaces that is engraved in it. Cost of new original strap is little steep, I ended up getting a duplicate "made in China" strap from Amazon which had the same design as the original. The battery also only lasts 12 months as mentioned max to max 14 months if you don't use Alt,baro feature that much though the battery replacement cost is almost nil but still it would have been cool if it could a add the solar feature just like Casio. other than, strap design and battery replacement in every 12 months , I think suunto still holds up to its name quite well and am quite happy with it.
Biased review. You didn't highlighted Casio g shock's so many awesome features which suunto will can never get close to. Durability, water resistance, quality of product and solar power.
After watching the first bit of this video, at first I thought he was just a suunto fan boy, since I've been a G-Shock guy forever. However,he made good points and I thought suunto for the replacement of my G-shock I lost on a kayaking trip. Then I saw the water resistance level and reviews for the suunto's performance in aquatic environments on top of the lack of solar battery. So Suunto for cool hiking slash regular day kinda tacticool guy who wants a green back light because it reminds him of splinter cell, and Casio for outdoor enthusiast?
+David Garcia Yup. I'd heard suunto has come out with some impressive dive watches, although I've been told the instruments on them aren''t as accurate I think it may fit my Floridian needs a little better. But everyone is saying they die after 8 months to a year and the price difference between a PRW 3000 or 3500 is enough to put a down payment on a car. I really hope Casio comes out with a solid black ABC G shock that isn't horribly bulky with a screen interface like the suunto. But for now Pro trek will have to do, and the fact that Im not terrified of a battery going dead on me when I really need it is enough to deal with there slow progression towards a nicer interface.
EVERYTHING cpo,,good day sir,,I have a few question to you,,,"the ALTIMETER of SUUNTO CORE does accurate work even you are inside the plane in thousand feet altitude?,,
Commercial airlines Are artificially pressurized. So I would guess it not to work in that situation. However smaller aircraft at lower altitude’s where there is no pressurized cabin, I don’t see why it wouldn’t work.
Good comparison. How is the readability of the 2 negative dials? I have to of the Casios (2 different colors) and would like to get a negative dial version of either the Casio or the Suunto. I sort of want to Suunto for a little variety. I'd be getting which ever one recognizing that the dial isn't going to be as readable in some situations, but would put up with be because the all black looks cool.
I think the Casio dial had a slightly better readability. It was a subtle difference, but it was easier to read. With that said, I have kept the Suunto and have been wearing it every day since this comparison, and I have no regrets. I have always been able to tell the time when I needed to, or see the other functions on the display. I was actually pretty concerned and almost considered a positive display instead, but the real-world useably of the negative display has been fine.
EVERYTHING cpo Thanks for the fast reply. One of the features that the Casio has is that you can set the light to come on when you tilt your wrist 45 degrees to look at the dial, and I don't worry about the battery with it being solar powered. Its a nice little feature, or might at least be with the negative dial. I can't say I get a ton of use out of it with my regular one. I think I'll probably end up getting the Suunto for a little variation as I don't think I need 3 of the same watch in different colors. I'll just have to get used to the functions of both watches. They both have so much in them that I forget how to do some of the stuff. Here's my vid on the Casio - th-cam.com/video/PQxLTHjMIro/w-d-xo.html
The auto light is a nice feature. I have another watch with that feature (Casio Gulfman). It's cool, But when I am wearing other watches that don't do that, I don't miss it. I actually find its often more convenient to reach over with my other hand and activate the light vs orientate the watch in the specific manner to engage the light. Both are great brands. You can't go wrong with either.
EVERYTHING cpo yea, I have one of my two Casio's set to do it and I don't really notice it much. It always kind of catches me by surprise when it comes on. I was in a class today and one of the guys had the all black core. It looks really nice in person and has nice presence on the wrist. I think I'll end up with one.
+SnareMan my casio broke after 6 mounymths maybe. i had the dark one, the digital shifted away to a point that you could not see it anymorem..just bought suunto core all black. had it for a mounth.. ps. casios protrek does not steps up about quiality the alti meter didint work and the compass was all wrong.. if you need a watxh like this go spend it on a suunto core all black
I have both. The Casio wins hands down with its solar power capabilities. The Sun to is unreliable at best and the battery replacement is a pain. And there’s no warning or indication of battery life.
What makes the Suunto a no-no for me is it's 30 meters water resistance - it should be at least 100 meters to be taken seriously as an outdoor sports watch.
I had a Suunto Core I bought used on Ebay for less that $100. I couldn't change the day and date, and the freaking alarm kept going off, so I took a brick and smashed it to pieces. That was great. I detest these watches. Apparently, you have to have a PhD to make them work properly
This was so bias towards the Suunto, which is so overpriced and overrated. Casio is way more durable (solar power +battery ) and way more reliable and rugged in though conditions ;S... only holds 50m depth and is made in China with a battery life of just 1 year .Suunto is just another overpriced and overrated Chinese "tacticool" scam.
Too bad the suunto is not solar powered because all those features especially any of the ABC s will drain the battery really quick so on extended trips you better have extra batteries
I beat the shit out of my Suunto Core in the Army and used the compass for night land navigation with ten kilometers between waypoints. I would bet my life on that watch.
There are Casios that do all that, it's a digital so the screen is always lit, if you're choosing functions for microwaving coffee in a house, showin time 2x on the watch.. yeah for sure the suunto or even better a Garmin is better for you as the software is more friendly. Suunto 30 meters WR only water splashes are acceptable, no showering or swimming, for a adventure kind of watch ??? lol
What do you mean with no showering? I swim in lakes with my Core, no issue. 30 meters/100 feet, that’s fairly deep, as in scuba certification deep. I have a real dive watch for that. Swimming, showering, bathing, no problem.
Does Casio back light not stay on when you hold the light button in for say 10secs? Puts it into night mode so that light stays on for 10 or so secs every time you hit the button?
Suunto looks a lot cooler than Protrek. That's for sure. But I think some of Protrek's features are much better than Suunto's. And of course the battery.
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Forget the features. I have had both of them. Casio is much, much more robust. I believe that the Suunto looks cooler. But when you are out on in the wilderness you want an ultimate reliable watch. Suunto, whatever the features, is just not robust enough. I have broken two. From watch bands that bust to just plain malfunctioning, the Suunto is not as robust as the Casio. My latest Casio is a tough solar and it has not had it's initial battery changed for 9 yrs...! Ice-climbing, rock climbing and hiking.. it has taken a beating. But the Casio has typical Japanese reliability and if you ever have a problem you can get them waranteed just about anywhere.
Rod Szasz good to know.
I have read many reviews that point out poor reliability of Suunto and poor customer service.
Thanks... I was not even aware of that... I think that everyone is swayed by the sexy design... but Suunto just do not cut it..Thanks
The Suunto is pretty appealing, but the casio has solar, and radio time sync. Both pretty useful features to have.
The Casio is solar powered so it doesn't have a long back light to save the battery. However you can choose between 1.5 and 3 second back light
I bought my son the Suunto Core in 2016 becuase we'd seen it worn by Denzel Washington on "The Equalizer" movie and thought it looked like a cool watch. After just under 2 years, the backlight button became semi-stuck in the half-depressed position such that the slightest touch turns on the light. It's not a huge deal, but is a bit annoying sometimes. The other thing was, after about a year and a half, the watch strap broke. WIth the very wide strap holes (slots) there are lots of weak points. The good news is, third party replacement straps can be purchased for about $12-15. I recently ordered a Suunto for myself just because I think it's a nice looking watch and it was on sale for $50 less than what I paid for my son's. . That said, if I were going to be using a watch like this for serious trekking and had to rely on it, I'd almost certainly go with the Casio. I'm not as hard on watches as my son so hopfully it will last a bit longer.
I've had the Suunto Core for a few years and have been very happy with it. Some say it's display is too dim in bright light making it hard to read but you can adjust the contrast which helps a lot. The only downside of the watch is the battery only lasts a year or so (I'm on 2 years for my current battery) but they're very easy to replace.
I've had the casio for 6 years, 6 continents and on mount Everest. Never changed the battery, the compass has near saved my life twice and been very important when ive been lost dozens of times. some of the features are too complex and un-intuitive to use, but altimeter, baro, compass, temp, are all really easy, time zone. If you're an explorer you certainly cannot trust a watch that isnt solar, I sure as hell wouldnt. the radio frequency controlled time is amazing, ive never set the time once in my life and it is always correct to the exact second. I do think they need to make a little bit of an update in the way it looks though, i love the band, its functionality is perfect, it does look slightly nerdy though. Survival watch 10/10, looks 7.8/10
I think core is a good ops watch for military(among the favorite watch within the military community other than garmin and g-shock) and police as well as outdoor enthusiasts but not the best when it comes into serious long trek being away from civilization for extended amount of time. Ill stick with G shock or pro trek for SHTF scenarios.
I agree with John Kennedy. I bought my Suunto Core All black and it fell apart in 2 years. First year the display started ghosting and you can see other indicators lightly appearing. The ring on the strap ripped and then the main wrist band actually ripped as well. I changed the band for $40. Never even went hiking or climbing. 2nd year the bezel fell off on its own while I was putting on my watch. This watch has never even been through rough conditions or under water. I used it for work at the office. No scratches at all. The customer support was even worse. They gave me a fake ticket number and never contacted me about my display issue. I had to call corporate sales office to get a hold of someone which directed me to an official partner store. In the end I didn't get support for to return the item as amazon said I had to deal with the manufacture directly. Watch was a huge disappointment. Paid $280.
Good to know that I'm not the only one whose strap broke twice. ( guess me picking up 70 lbs fabric rols is not one of Suunto's strenghts)The first one Suunto replaced after I got after them. The second time I just bought a cheap copy on Ebay.
Been though two junkos so far..both broke..all my protreks and gshocks are still going strong!
At no point did you mention the superior durability of the Casio, or the the fact that it is solar powered and doesn't require the need to open the case to replace a battery like on the suunto. Great comparison otherwise. I feel like you were definitely biased towards the Suunto.
I didn't cover the fact that it's solar because it's apples to oranges and it's clear in every write up that its solar. I tried not to talk about things that are common knowledge, or easily identified in the manual or technical specs. If solar is a requirement, the. The Suunto isn't even on the list.
I don't know that Casio has superior durability, and having both watches for a few days doesn't help me with that.
Lastly, I did keep the Suunto as my watch of choice, and have been wearing every day since that decision. Truth be told, I expected to keep the Casio...until those little things started to add up as I wore and used it. That's why I made the video. Those things that I mention aren't easy to derive from technical specs, manuals, or the other reviews I have seen.
So I may sound biased...because at at point I was pretty close to making my decision. I hadn't made it at that point, but I was leaning towards the Suunto.
I really wanted it to be the Casio, honestly, because the display was more crisp and easier to read.
This guy must work in suunto company. From The first 15 seconds you can read this.
He wasn't saying you "covered up" the fact it was solar; he was saying you made a glaring omission by not listing one of the watches major features that make it stand out. Yikes..
I've had a core for 6 or 7 years and bashed it into everything didn't have a problem however I'd like to say that I bought 2 and both of their baro/temp sensors went out that's why I only had them about 6 or 7 years lol
Yep this is a suunto guy badmouthing casio totally obvious from the first 5minutes..
I have been using my Protrek PRG-13 for more than 6 years already and it has never failed me. Never replaced the battery, thanks for the "Tough Solar" feature, changed the bracelet only once... Dropped it hundred times but no issue, my Protrek amaze most of my co workers...This guy seems to be a Suunto fan...
This is the best review i've found about the Suunto Core and i've searched a lot. Doing a comparison is brilliant because it truly shows what could be better or what is in this instance. I'm really grateful for your concise, no-bullshit, well explained review. Thanks!
Since these are watches, I'm surprised no discussion of time accuracy was mentioned during the video. The atomic time update on my Casio Pathfnder PAW-1500 is my most liked aspect of the watch. That and never worrying about the battery going dead. 7 years and no problems. I assume the Protrek performs similarly, but no mention of how accurately the Suunto keeps time is an odd omission for a timepiece review.
The reviewer left out the majority of the ProTrek features; its anyone's guess why he made a comparison video that leaves that out. I also love the atomic timekeeping, if you have a job the requires accurate times than its a huge bonus.
To be honest with two quartz watches like this, I would be surprised with either not having accuracy of a few seconds a year
The Suunto can seem more user-friendly, but taking into consideration reputation of Casio's and basic specs (water resistance for example) one can be sure that Casio will be more durable and reliable. These watches are different breed - Casio is solar powered, has wave-controlled time
Always wanted a Suunto but, I hear to many about too many issues from people in the field/military who use them. Pretty much why I stick with Casio even if they have a smaller feature set. Solar, compass and outstanding build quality are great things to have.
same
No solar, no buy. The Casio is the watch you want when it all goes to hell. It's just the better survival watch all around.
VB3 the solar charging is deal breaker.
Solar power watch batteries don't last forever.. that rechargeable battery will eventually run out and won't be able to hold a charge no more
@@coldsummer3394 Still better buddy solar rules..
@@NathanChisholm041 until the rechargeable battery can't hold a charge no more then it's just like a plane as watch with as plain battery... trust me I have a bunch of watch that run on sunlight.. they all die at some point
@@coldsummer3394 Yeah, but solar still lasts far longer than non-solar, therefore it's superior in this way. I've heard people claim their solar watch still going after 8+ years.
To bad the suunto core is not solar powered.
+Gerri Mesker to be honest it's not exactly like cr2032 batteries are hard to come by. carry several in your first aid kit as they can be used not only for powering a dead watch but for starting fires in emergencies. solar is convenient but meh. i replace cr2032 batteries like cutting my fingernails, you can buy a box of 5 for a dollar..
+Gerri Mesker So interesting fact....I just had to replace the battery for the first time in my Suunto Core this week. It reset or something...not sure...but noticed some of my settings were different, like beep was enabled when I had it disabled. When I looked at it, I saw the battery symbol for the first time....and honestly have no idea how long it was there...but didn't notice it before. Anyway...walked into the kitchen, grabbed a spare cr2032 of out the drawer, and put it in. Easy. It might seem like a negative to need to change batteries, but not for me. My old Casio G-Shock Gullfman is solar powered, and the battery eventually died on that. I couldn't find a replacement battery anywhere locally. Jewelry stores wanted a small fortune to change it. I ended up ordering a battery from Amazon, and installing it myself. The watch was down for over a week when this happened. I'm a fan of solar....but I don't mind changeable common batteries either.
+EVERYTHING cpo Right you are, solar watches resistors CAN and do die, esp if they go completely dead for an extended period of time. Park it on the window sill! Then it'll get that atomic reset every night as well.
how many led back lights does the protrek have mine only has 2
Casio all the way. Solar power and atomic timekeeping.
Great Comparison, casio is solar AND ATOMIC. Kinda cool that the watch is to the second accurate all the time. I do love all the graphing and log stuff an all dot matrix suunto is capable of.
Casio prw 3100 all the way :D
I have both and i use the suunto for everyday living and i just had to send it to suunto because the buttons keep getting stuck. My casio protek 3500 on the other hand has been with me on camping, kayaking, mountain biking, paintballing,surfing. Still works like it just came out of the box.
On the Casio, turn off button tone and the light stays on while pushing buttons, but only for 3 seconds, also it has the auto light feature just flip your wrist to look at it during dark conditions, hold the light button for 3-5 seconds and "LT" display lower right.
I had the core for 3 years and it's just clinging to life. 2 years in, the rubber wrist strap disintegrated on me. All the features don't work but it still tells time. I sent it back to Suunto and because it's out of warranty they offered to replace the guts of the watch for $200. So now I'm looking for another brand.
Yikes.
I had casio since 2015 until now still good n no problem with solar power
Guy's my brother was SF for 12 year's. I bought him the core for his b'day. It lasted 2 weeks. The buttons didn't work and band broke. So I felt bad and got him a Casio prg 240. That was 5 year's ago and he still wears it. There is no comparison. The core is garbage.
I have both and i use the suunto for everyday living and i just had to send it to suunto because the buttons keep getting stuck. My casio protek 3500 on the other hand has been with me on camping, kayaking, mountain biking, paintballing,surfing. Still works like it just came out of the box.
Biased review. You skipped on important features on the Casio, which the Suunto doesn't have. Solar charging may not be important to you, but it is to others who actually use the watch to its maximum capacity.
Haha, right? This reviewer sounds like he hasn't made it outdoors much.
Casio Pro Trek all the way...
casio all the way... why would choose suunto only for desaign, infact protrek design is good too and o f course its tough solar
Interesting comparison, even if, for my taste, I would not buy neither of the two.
Actually I think that Casio has developed the PRW 3000 just to challenge the Suuntos in their market, but it's not the kind of watch that make you really appreciate what Casio is really good at...which is:
1) the ability to put all the important data visible at a glance without having to constantlky press buttons and navigate through menus (for comparison, see other protrek models or the G-Shock Rangeman, a hell of a tank of a watch);
2) better build quality and shock resistance: many Sunto owners report different kind of failures, this is really not good for a watch that has to withstand the wilderness;
3)autonomy and self-sufficiency: Casio, at this time, has got the better solar powering technology avaible on the market;
On the other hand, Suunto seems to be better at measuring data. For example, Casio has constantly improved his sensors, but I am still wondering why they never implemented a simple calculator to compensate the change in barometric pressure due to the variation of altitude... in other words, every change in altitude (even simply go upstairs a building) spoils data needed for the meteo predictions, and with Casios there is no way to compensate and recreate a barometric trend at sea level (you can still make your own calculations, but it is really boring).
Having said that, my primary watch is a Protrek 6000. I prefer analogue hands, and this watch is both packed with functoins and very good looking (IMHO). You can wear it almost in every occasion, I love it!
Great review. I went with the Suunto Core All Black myself.
I did all the review reading and video watching I could, but in the end, I don't trust anything I see on the internet besides consensuses. When I see both supporters and detractors saying X feature is great on brand A watch, I'll trust that.
The Suunto offers everything I personally want and need. I don't need most of it's features, but those that I do have to be spot on and that to me is more important than anything else along with reliability and durability. Everything breaks, everything fails, nothing is perfect, but even if I heard 1000 "this watch sucks!" reviews, in context, that'd be 1000 out of thousands and one really also has to read in between the lines of the negative reviews (just as much as the positive reviews).
One of my deciding factors was the Suunto's simplicity. It's a watch. It tells time. Whatever else it does, it's not in my face 24/7 unless I summon it. That was a big selling point for me.
No, only time will tell how well it performs (no pun intended of course LOL).
Yankee so how has it performed?
Yankee i
OH also with the back light thing on the PRW, You can set it to stay activate when you tilt it towards you to look at the screen.
It's funny that the movie Equalizer made me want a special ops looking digital watch and I went for the PRG-270.
Not to mention the fact the movie had a bogus stopwatch display made especially for the movie and doesn't feature on the actual watch. I purchased the Suunto because it had a large stopwatch display as shown in the movie. I was highly pissed off to find it wasn't a feature.
@@tasselhoff3888 lol get to da choppa
I think the battery can be looked at like a learning tool. You know that every year you will have to review the operation of the watch. Love the way the Suunto looks I hope the buttons hold up. I'm not the kind of guy that expects or wants a watch to last more than 3 or 4 years, especially these days when that length of time can make a world of difference in features. If I get 3 years I'll be happy. Great Video, thanks for all your work.
I have a solar powered Casio diamond watch for dressier occations so I think the Suunto will be a nice addition to my accessories, ha. The Casio looks nice and I had no problem with power but it's not as easy to read as the Suunto.
You can keep the black light on the pro trek and change modes if you mute the beeping.
useful tip .. Thanks
Just picked the Suunto, and glad I did. Great review in comparison to both watch’s feature.
On the casio, The light only shuts off after you press each button because you have the button sound activated. If you disable the button sound then the light stays on while you press buttons
I have had a Casio ProTrek since 2009 still going strong.
Lotta disgruntled Casio fans here. Yeah, the Suunto has the more accurate sensors and can predict the weather. As far as toughness, they have a great reputation among military. It's not a daily wear watch for me; I only use it in the outdoors so always start out with a fresh battery. I like this because I'm also always assured that the seal is new. It's also less bulky than most Casios, though I actually prefer the looks of the G-Shocks, personally.
Edit: the Pro Trek is probably fine for most recreational uses; my opinion is based more on a 'survival' type usage, a situation where you'd probably want a back-up piece, anyway.
i will get the all stainless steel version of the Core, with safir glass, a bit beefier and a bit pricier, but worth it....greetings, Levi from Finland
I will tell you I loved the core all black because it looks cooler and is in the movie the equaliser. However in the end I brought the protrek simply because it's solar powered and the suunto is a major headache to get the battery changed. With my last Suunto the strap broke and the compass stopped working after battery replacement. Whereas all the protrek I have had work perfectly and are nice and durable as well as no battery issues. I just wish the protreks were made to look as aesthetically pleasing, but this prw 3000 is definitely a step in the right direction
Casio👍
just the comparison video I was looking for. Had a protrek before but I went suunto x lander years ago and looking for a new. These was the two options I came up with. Great watches both but the ultimate what I am looking for would be a suunto core with solar. hehe I was about to get the casio due to the solar, but after watching this video I think it will be suunto this time as well. I love the size of them, easy to handle with lots of gear and stuff on. So just have to recall bringing some extra batteries cause they drain fast when in use often. Great video mate :)
I didn’t know that you had more Chanel.
Great Vid.
Nice review.
What about battery life/charging?
I have the 3000, and the charge lasts a LONG time: many months.
I also have the automatic time syncing, which is fabulous on the 3000.
Thank you.
I decided not to go into things that are easy to compare based on product descriptions. Comparing battery life between a solar watch and a non-solar watch is really apples and oranges. I just wanted to go into things that may not be obvious with regard to the user interface and functionality. Both have a stopwatch, both have alarm, both have timer ... But there is nothing in the specs that really helps you know how they are different - and not everyone will have the opportunity to have them both side by side and USE them to find those differences. :-)
So anyway. Yeah... atomic and solar functions are pretty awesome. I really hoped I was going to like the Casio because that would have been nice. However, it was all of the little things that caused me to decide that solar and atomic synching weren't important enough in the long run. The timer and alarm and backlight are things I would notice daily. The battery change is a one or twice a year thing... And to be honest any Quartz watch is going to be plenty accurate once it's initially set...so the atomic feature, while nice, doesn't (to me) provide much practical benefit.
I didn't mention battery because it's apples and oranges. It's not realistic (to me) to compare battery life in a solar vs non-solar watch. Additionally, I tried to focus on things that you couldn't read on the package or in the product description.
Estimated 10 years for the Casio and 6-12 months for the Suunto (depending on how much you use the compass and light). The Suunto has one if the EASIEST batteries to replace, as it is one of the few watches designed for user replacement. It can be replaced with a coin or pocket knife vs most watches that require a jewelers screwdriver.
With that said, I have had to replace a battery in my casio solar watch -- I maybe got 10 years out of it. It was quite easy if you are familiar working with small electronics. Local shop wanted to charge me $40 to change it. I bought one online (not locally available), changed it myself while ensuring to re-seal the case by adding silicone grease to the rubber gasket.
Oh... The Suunto battery. Available a Walmart or billion other local shops and cost a couple of bucks.
Hope that helps.
I think the reason Casio's lower button (A) is up and the upper button (C) is down is a legacy thing. Early Casios, and still many today, don't have a down/decrement at all. You press the lower button to increment a value and if you miss your target you have to keep going and loop back to 0. The upper button does nothing. When they introduced the ability to decrement values in newer watches, they wanted to maintain consistency so they designated the upper button for that purpose. As someone with serious Casio muscle memory I'm happy they did. But I agree it's not very intuitive for newer users.
I will go with Casio as this is cheaper and have similar functions . thanks for uploading video nice side by side review .
Here's the difference - Suunto is a piece of $hit, bc they tend to break or malfunction about a year after purchase, if not sooner. Suunto's batt sucks. Really the only positive about the Suunto is it looks cool, and it's the watch from the movie the Equalizer. Although the negative display looks really cool, it is not easy to look at in most scenarios, and especially in daylight, I could barely see it eating dinner in a well lit environment.
Casio Protrek or Pathfinders are far superior in regards to quality, some of the older temp sensers are crap, but the newer are good (Protreks.) Casio is proven.
If you have any conflicts about what I say about Suunto Core, then seriously, simply do your research, look at the MANY negative reviews on places like amazon. Don't make the mistake I did simply buying the Suunto for it's looks, it looks like the majority of these watches fail in a short period of time in at least some regards. The new Protreks imo look cooler than Suunto Core.
+John Kennedy yeah but you see, most of the people still find very important the design as well, where Casio is really failing at especially for the sports ones (G shock and this from the video). In the end it's probably a matter of taste, but I liked Casio only by the age of 15. All the times I see engineers colleagues with G shock at their hand I find it completely lack of style. But Edifice is another world of Casio, these I love very much. I think pricing is the only powerful advantage of Casio.
I just sent back a casio g shock master of g. Watch retails at 500 bucks. I haven't had it a year and I sent it back. My Compass screwed up and I couldn't fix it. The second hand started to stick and you would have to thump the watch to get it to start working again. Don't get me. Wrong, some g shocks may be awesome but I will never get another like that model. I'm going for this suunto all black military model. Give it a shot.
Jhutchins1 Before you do that read all the amazon reviews...
I love the casio g shocks. I just hated that mine had to be a flop. I wish the protrek didn't have the back light problem where you have to constantly press it. I remwmeber that on mine. It annoyed the crap out of me, other than that I loved it. Until it started messing up.
Jhutchins1 the light is annoying. I thought I read in the manual you can program it to stay on longer, but really Im too lazy to read it again
if the suunto only were a solar watch :-(
The reason the backlight times-out so quickly is for your own protection. There may be a reason you need to kill the backlight immediately as not to give your position away. It is much faster to be able to push any button to disable the backlight. As you pointed out though, it is also irritating if you desire the backlight to stay on.
Not being a climatologist, I prefer Protrek. It just does what I expect it to do, not to mention Casio's well-tested battery life.
was looking at the Suunto, but went with the Casio Prw 3500 instead... one of the main reasons i skipped the Suunto is because it has an inverted black background colour with light numbers, and having had a digital watch like that before it is much harder to read than a light background with black numbers... also not sure if the Suunto has the atomic clock radio reciever, and yes the solar on the Casio is great
You forget about sensor backlight at casio protrek. If you swing your hands motion like when you saw the watch. The backlight will on. Just hold the light button in the middle Until "LT" mode on
I live in Finland, I like Suunto watches somewhat, not all...but (G-Shock) Tough Solar it's hard to beat!
I may have missed this, but does the Casio not have dual display? I mean you can go into that specific mode, but on the regular display can you dual display times?
I have a Suunto Core..Casio PRW2500 and PAG240
Each watch does something that the other doesn't...which drives me crazy..Youd think someone at Casio wouldve done a lil R&D
One has moon data..the other doesnt..One has sunset/rise..the othe doesnt..One has constant illumination..the others dont...One thing for sure..The Casio has solar powered and radio controlled..which makes the Casios a level above Suunto Core..Not to mention classic Casio durability
R u sure you cant hold the light button down for 3 secs like the g-shocks? My g-shock I hold the light button down for 3 secs and then every time I hit a button the light autos on. If I want to turn this feature off I hold the light button for an additional 3 seconds
how many led back lights does the protrek have mine only has 2 on the left hand side
what's the battery life on the casio?
Battery life? durability?
Hi, very nice review :)
I was wondering which altimeter works better, because i have the prw 3000 1er and the alti is perfect, well, it doesn't have the alti/baro block but this is not a big deal.. i use it almost every single day for hiking and running, and it's fine for me.
But this summer i'll do a skydive aff course, so i need a functional altimeter watch, and i'm undecided to buy the vector, the core or simply keep my protrek. Which one should i choose?
Thanks :)
Well done review. Very fair to both products.
This guy must work in Suunto Company.
I honestly think he just doesn't know much about ether watch
I would really like a lot for a g shock to look like this.
loved your review, I own same Suunto core all black edition and I've had the same dilemma when I bought it, to whether go for a solar-powered orange Casio protrek or all black Suunto. I ended up getting a Suunto because of movie "Shooter" (Mark Wahlberg had the same piece ) and later "equalizer".
But I want to know one thing from you, how is your strap holding out in Suunto, Mine torned out in 18 months, I think it had poor strap design because it torned right from the cut spaces that is engraved in it. Cost of new original strap is little steep, I ended up getting a duplicate "made in China" strap from Amazon which had the same design as the original. The battery also only lasts 12 months as mentioned max to max 14 months if you don't use Alt,baro feature that much though the battery replacement cost is almost nil but still it would have been cool if it could a add the solar feature just like Casio.
other than, strap design and battery replacement in every 12 months , I think suunto still holds up to its name quite well and am quite happy with it.
How accurate are the compass, altimeter, and barometer settings?
What about the breitling navitimer preimer
do they have map grid references so you can map read ie find your position
Biased review. You didn't highlighted Casio g shock's so many awesome features which suunto will can never get close to. Durability, water resistance, quality of product and solar power.
After watching the first bit of this video, at first I thought he was just a suunto fan boy, since I've been a G-Shock guy forever. However,he made good points and I thought suunto for the replacement of my G-shock I lost on a kayaking trip. Then I saw the water resistance level and reviews for the suunto's performance in aquatic environments on top of the lack of solar battery. So Suunto for cool hiking slash regular day kinda tacticool guy who wants a green back light because it reminds him of splinter cell, and Casio for outdoor enthusiast?
Lol ya pretty much
+David Garcia Yup. I'd heard suunto has come out with some impressive dive watches, although I've been told the instruments on them aren''t as accurate I think it may fit my Floridian needs a little better. But everyone is saying they die after 8 months to a year and the price difference between a PRW 3000 or 3500 is enough to put a down payment on a car. I really hope Casio comes out with a solid black ABC G shock that isn't horribly bulky with a screen interface like the suunto. But for now Pro trek will have to do, and the fact that Im not terrified of a battery going dead on me when I really need it is enough to deal with there slow progression towards a nicer interface.
EVERYTHING cpo,,good day sir,,I have a few question to you,,,"the ALTIMETER of SUUNTO CORE does accurate work even you are inside the plane in thousand feet altitude?,,
Commercial airlines Are artificially pressurized. So I would guess it not to work in that situation. However smaller aircraft at lower altitude’s where there is no pressurized cabin, I don’t see why it wouldn’t work.
Good comparison. How is the readability of the 2 negative dials? I have to of the Casios (2 different colors) and would like to get a negative dial version of either the Casio or the Suunto. I sort of want to Suunto for a little variety. I'd be getting which ever one recognizing that the dial isn't going to be as readable in some situations, but would put up with be because the all black looks cool.
I think the Casio dial had a slightly better readability. It was a subtle difference, but it was easier to read. With that said, I have kept the Suunto and have been wearing it every day since this comparison, and I have no regrets. I have always been able to tell the time when I needed to, or see the other functions on the display. I was actually pretty concerned and almost considered a positive display instead, but the real-world useably of the negative display has been fine.
EVERYTHING cpo Thanks for the fast reply. One of the features that the Casio has is that you can set the light to come on when you tilt your wrist 45 degrees to look at the dial, and I don't worry about the battery with it being solar powered. Its a nice little feature, or might at least be with the negative dial. I can't say I get a ton of use out of it with my regular one. I think I'll probably end up getting the Suunto for a little variation as I don't think I need 3 of the same watch in different colors. I'll just have to get used to the functions of both watches. They both have so much in them that I forget how to do some of the stuff.
Here's my vid on the Casio - th-cam.com/video/PQxLTHjMIro/w-d-xo.html
The auto light is a nice feature. I have another watch with that feature (Casio Gulfman). It's cool, But when I am wearing other watches that don't do that, I don't miss it. I actually find its often more convenient to reach over with my other hand and activate the light vs orientate the watch in the specific manner to engage the light.
Both are great brands. You can't go wrong with either.
EVERYTHING cpo yea, I have one of my two Casio's set to do it and I don't really notice it much. It always kind of catches me by surprise when it comes on.
I was in a class today and one of the guys had the all black core. It looks really nice in person and has nice presence on the wrist. I think I'll end up with one.
+SnareMan my casio broke after 6 mounymths maybe. i had the dark one, the digital shifted away to a point that you could not see it anymorem..just bought suunto core all black. had it for a mounth.. ps. casios protrek does not steps up about quiality the alti meter didint work and the compass was all wrong.. if you need a watxh like this go spend it on a suunto core all black
what is that sing playing in the back ground it's from my vs atv and I've been searching for it for years
Those are songs from a band called pillar, from the album where do we go from here.
The Suunto is plasticky. Really inferior feeling to it. It's not even glass… and it scratches when you look at it real hard.
Can you have local time be 12 hour and world time be 24 hour?
Are they both water proof which can be used for swimming
I have both. The Casio wins hands down with its solar power capabilities. The Sun to is unreliable at best and the battery replacement is a pain. And there’s no warning or indication of battery life.
this whole feature has a " snooze" function
What makes the Suunto a no-no for me is it's 30 meters water resistance - it should be at least 100 meters to be taken seriously as an outdoor sports watch.
I had a Suunto Core I bought used on Ebay for less that $100. I couldn't change the day and date, and the freaking alarm kept going off, so I took a brick and smashed it to pieces. That was great. I detest these watches. Apparently, you have to have a PhD to make them work properly
You bought a used watch! the problem was you not the watch you bought somebody junk expecting it to work like a brand new watch😂🤣😂🤦♂️
This was so bias towards the Suunto, which is so overpriced and overrated. Casio is way more durable (solar power +battery ) and way more reliable and rugged in though conditions ;S... only holds 50m depth and is made in China with a battery life of just 1 year .Suunto is just another overpriced and overrated Chinese "tacticool" scam.
how can you set a navigation lock ?
Is the CASIO alarm loud enough to wake someone up?
@Rostislav Persion yes its so loud i could hear my cousins alarm all the way from vaJhainna!!
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Suunto!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hell ya
Too bad the suunto is not solar powered because all those features especially any of the ABC s will drain the battery really quick so on extended trips you better have extra batteries
I beat the shit out of my Suunto Core in the Army and used the compass for night land navigation with ten kilometers between waypoints. I would bet my life on that watch.
the thermomether measures the temperature where? body???
There are Casios that do all that, it's a digital so the screen is always lit, if you're choosing functions for microwaving coffee in a house, showin time 2x on the watch.. yeah for sure the suunto or even better a Garmin is better for you as the software is more friendly.
Suunto 30 meters WR only water splashes are acceptable, no showering or swimming, for a adventure kind of watch ??? lol
What do you mean with no showering? I swim in lakes with my Core, no issue. 30 meters/100 feet, that’s fairly deep, as in scuba certification deep. I have a real dive watch for that.
Swimming, showering, bathing, no problem.
Casio "up" and "down" - wrong thinking. On some G-Shocks they're labelled as they work: Reverse and Forward.
like who's watching this just for casio
Does Casio back light not stay on when you hold the light button in for say 10secs? Puts it into night mode so that light stays on for 10 or so secs every time you hit the button?
Proud prw3000 user
Lucky John Matrix didn't have a Suunto or he wouldn't have known how long he had to save his daughter!!
Does anybody know if Suunto Core All Black is Made in Finland or China??
Bonjour
So which one is the best ?
What the hell is a Sunto?
In thr end..it was whatever watch looked better.
Casio all the way, solar powered more reliable......
Suunto looks a lot cooler than Protrek. That's for sure. But I think some of Protrek's features are much better than Suunto's. And of course the battery.
PRW 3100 is upgraded.
why suunto so popular...simply look better than the casio!
Suunto is nice to look at but it breaks easily