Kishore da's voice was gift from God, he proved the fact that voice quality is much more important than classical singing training. unmatchable voice quality which pierce into your heart like a true love....... I wish he would have access to modern music instruments, you can't even think how good he was going to sound........
@@imnot_reyazBhai actor kon h ye bhi toh dekho movie konsi thi ye bhi dekho Aaj ke time par bhi if song recreate Kiya jata hai with big actor usme zada views hote h
Kishore Da has the ability to bring variation according to the actors. For example Devanand, Rajesh Khanna, Amitabh, Rishi Kapoor. He always kept unique touch according to the actors
KISHORE Da indeed had a special voice, full of power and rich with emotion,moreover his incredible versatility and range placed him a little higher than the other singers of the industry. P.S : big salute 2 u Javed Saab,fr u had the guts to convey th truth ...
If u listen to a Kishore Kumar song, u can exactly visualize under what circumstances the actor is singing it in the movie. Feelings, emotions, mood, those subtle nuances very simply great in Kishore songs. These can neither b taught , nor inherited(his sons come no where near him). It is a gift given by God Kishore had that gift.
i feel when you listen to a song you listen to for the voice quality and melody. long after you have seen the movie after years if you think about the actor who did dramatic facial expressions every time when you listen to the song, the beauty of the song is lost. why should we think of any actor when we listen to a song.i think we should hear it just as a song without having the burden of thinking about the movie the story the drama the awkward expressions of those actors.
Replace Kishore to Rafi you will be absolutely right. These where always attributed to Rafi Saab. It's first time I heard someone saying same about KK. Funny.
@@salsYThandle haha 😄 Rafi was replaced by Kishore as the numero uno in 1969. Rafi's thin voice didn't have the depth or pain that Kishore da's masculine voice had.
@@rajarshighosh4821 I realize you have no knowledge about music. You're full of hatred towards an angel Rafi Saab. Listen the link and you may understand. th-cam.com/video/6Nfe93A36i4/w-d-xo.html
@@salsYThandle brother Rafi was an angel,It's truth .But when we compare ,it's not holiness but sheer ability to surpass ones competent ,matters.You r so innocent that you do not accept the truth that people had replaced Rafi since 1969 by Kishore.It doesn't mean Rafi had lost his sweet voice,but people had heard the the manly voice with many modulations.Kishore had replaced rafi plainly after Aradhana .If the same had been done by rafi to someone,you also said the same about rafi what I. say about kishore.you r rejecting people's choice .You have no knowledge of music nor about the consequences which took place after 1969.Rafi used to perform his live shows in foreign after Aradhana as he didn't get enough songs ,which he used get earlier.Neither Rafi went foreign for his live shows earlier because he had more songs than other singers.Kindly respect people's opinion, accept,the consequences which shows rafi's degradation as we all accept his position before Aradhana.
India has 2 wonders. Taj Mahal and Mohammed Rafi. Javed Akhter never gave a classic movie like guide, devadas, mughal e azam, pyasa, andaaz. Not a single. Now he has become champ and calling the likes of SJ NAUSHAD OP NAYAR LP RAVI ROSHAN MADAN M SD BURMAN RAM LAL SONIK OMI IQBAL QURESHI KALYAN JI SALEEL CHAUDHRY USHA KHANNA AND OTHER GREATS THAT YOU FOOLS YOU WERE WRONG IN RELYING ON RAFI TO BE YOUR PRIME SINGER FOR 20 YEARS.
I just want to say one thing. There is no one like kishore da. Other singers were trained by human beings but he was trained by the Almighty. That's why he was the best. His voice and his song's will never be outdated. He was a Genius. Actors of those days would be incomplete without his voice for sure. Just imagine.
Lata Mangeshkar, Rafi Saab ye dono bahut mahan hai Lekin kishorda ki hi awaz Dil Ko chhu leti hai, isliye kishorda is the greatest singer in Indian Bollywood industry.
I also feel the same about Kishoreda but when you listen to Lataji or Rafi sahab you feel the same greatness and get confused as to who is the best. Aren't we lucky to so many singers to choose from!!
@@sebastianmathew5669 ra bhai wo sab boht acche hai but kishor kumar ka vocal tone ki sweetness ko beat karna impossible hai ek tarah se wo unparalleled hai or ye me nahi bade bade singing legend bolte hai
Kyon jhijhak na, kis se darna, Javed sahab ? It’s 100% true what you said. It’s a fact that Kishore Kumar’s voice is so special that your attention will be always on him whether the particular song is also some other’s (male or female) version or a duet. There are many examples : Mere naina saawan bhaado (Mehbooba), Zindegi ek safar (Andaaz), Bane chaahe dushman (Dostana), Na jaane kaise (Badalte Rishte), Ye dosti (Sholey), Hum ko tum se ho gaya hai pyar (Amar Akbar Anthony) … list is long, i can name at least 30 songs starting from 1950s, sung by both other male & female legends, solo or duet. Why it is so ? What is so special in Kishore Da’s voice ? Voice clarity (whatever language he sings he sings with very clear pronunciation), exceptional BASS and softness, his exceptional quality to connect with the situation of the song - the mood of the song. Nobody has it. Even when Kishore Kumar talks it sounds like singing - it is so melodious and harmonic ! Unless one has those unique qualities nobody could monopolize playback singing for two decades - 1970 & 1980 belong to Kishore Da only. Thank GOD that Kishore Kumar did not take formal training when he started singing; otherwise he would have ended up as an average singer and we would have never got a trend setter, a REAL LEGEND.
No words to say Kishore was is and will remain the best God gifted singer i really feel he is the best singer i have ever heard singing 🎤 class apart really southing voice commanding the wait was always there in his singing 🎤
@@orthosarthak wo marne ke baad bhi abaam ki dilon dimag mein zinda hain aur unke gaana amar hain... Itna kaffi hai.. wo bharat ke ratna the.. agar award recognition hai toh unko ye zaroorat nhi unke ganon se hi wo besak bharat ke ratna hai.....
Nobody is even 50 percent close to Legend Kishore Da.... although Rafi was too very great and classic singer but Kishore Da voice is very very deep in all aspects with a mail touch all around....even in modern context there are good singers like Kumar Sanu, Sonu Nigam , Abhijit and latest hit Arijit but all these are not even 40 percent of Kishore Kumar..... 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@yw-subzero9323 Rafi was undoubtedly one of the best singer of all time...but Kishore Da is just nostalgic and a complete package...infact Kishore Kumar become popular due to his calibre of singing fast track songs and including some fantastic yodling in his songs....A gift from God to the mother earth
Rightly said sir . Kishore sir was the only singer ever to live who can change his voice according to the personality of a star which looked like the star is himself singing .
Further to this Javed Akhtar tells the story of recording of the song "Yun hi gaate raho" from Saagar , where Kishore da had to sing along with SPB. With all due respect to SPB ji, he sang his part really well, and the kind of bold voice he has, Javed Akhtar said he started worrying how Kishore Kumar's voice will sound in comparison of SPB's , who had to record his lines the next day. Those day Kishore da was recovering form his hearth attack that he had some time back. And when Dada came next day and sang his lines, again his lines stood out like anything ...
@@Lindaeditz8 i know where you are coming from and why you stand there.... you are R Blind as usual... Open your Eyes dude...1000 Rafi's can't bring one feel what Kishore does in his songs...and that God gifted Voice which is 10000 times better by miles...
@@sathishscorpion Your statement was somewhat interesting to tell @Irfan Ahmed to open his eyes !! In fact you should be opening your ears my friend to listen with an open heart the art of singing from the early years from the 1940s to the present day and of all different genre of songs. I'm sure you would agree that Bollywood music didn't start from the 1970s !! Kishore was a fantastic singer with a vibrant range but the fact is he was only a playback singer, how many non-film albums did he have catering for specific genres ? You obviously don't know Mohammed Rafi that well to make such crude statements as you did. Let’s look at Rafi’s repertoire of song styles from non-film Classical Bhajans & Ghazals to village folk, Rock & Roll, Cabaret, Qawwalis, Devotional, Patriotic, Romantic, Comical, Happy, Sad, philosophical to Disco. He sung in more styles than any other male singer of his generation and that’s a fact. As a Muslim it is widely regarded he rendered Hindu devotional songs better than any other hindu male singers. He sung in more Languages than any other male singer of his generation and that was eivident non-film albums also. Lets dig in further to Rafi’s sheer talent, Despite RD Burman having more Kishore songs, when it came to Qawwalis, RD went to Rafi mostly as Qawwalis wasn’t really Kishore’s cup of tea even though Kishore has sung a few Qawwali songs. Ironically with RD Burman, his fame came to the scene initially having Rafi singing most of his earlier songs with RD rise to the main spotlight from Teersi Manzil 1966 with all songs sung by Rafi which was a superhit musical, where was Kishore at the time, as he became a singer in films from 1948. The film Muqaddar Ka Sikandar 1978, the hit song "Rote Hue Ate Hain Sab" sung well by Kishore but a sad version was required, but Kalyanji-Anandji wanted Rafi to sing a few lines to end the film but Rafi apparently suggested it was Kishore’s song so Kishore should sing the sad version but on Kalyanji-Anandji insistence they thought the in depth emotions of the sad version should be sung by Rafi only and he did just that in "Zindagi To Bewafa Hai" The film Amar Deep 1979 Rajesh Khanna starrer all songs by Kishore but for the end scene of the film a few emotional lines was required by Rafi to render "Duniya Mein Sada". Why not Kishore ? after all songs were sung by Kishore in the film. For the film Pyaasa 195, Rafi showed his amazing vocal modulation for singing the deep philosophical songs for Guru Dutt while singing for Comical playful Johnny Walker in the same film and you would think how could this be the same singer. This was widely noted by Bollywood artists for Rafi’s vocal range and modulation on different actors. From the film Haathi Mere Saathi 1971, A Rajesh Khanna movie and of course all songs by Kishore but for the song "Nafrat Ki Duniya Ko Chhod Ke", Kishore was unable to perform the song as to Laxmikant-Pyarelal’s expectations as this song required powerful high emotions to the story of the film and it was even proposed to leave this song out of the film but it was finally decided and further backed by LP, Rajesh Khanna etc. they needed this song so it was decided to bring Rafi in and he rendered the song so emotionally and powerfully as required was proved to be a big hit indeed. All the songs from the film Hum kisise Kum Naheen were fantastic superhit songs sung mainly by Kishore, Asha and Rafi. Both Kishore and Rafi was given 4 songs each by RD Burman. If you look carefully Kishore had all peppy songs while Rafi had a variation song styles from Romantic,happy, Qawwali and sad. As everyone should know the song “kya hua tera wada” became the overall superhit rage and won Rafi the Filmfare and National Award in 1978 ironically by a RD Burman song for which Kishore never achieved this winning combination from a RD number from all the RD/Kishore hits they had together. I could go on further forever if I wanted to but it will have no end. So one should think carefully before making crude statements against singers. At the end of the day I have the most respect for all singers especially from the old generation who were unique in their voices and styles
@@Lindaeditz8 totally unhygienic statement for great Kishore Kumar. You must be ashamed of your statement. Frankly the universe critics say the voice clarity and higher pitch of great Kishore surpasses over Rafi and others. Mind your language please.
Lata is great but then so is Asha an incomparable singer. Lata, Asha, Rafi and Kishore are all brilliant singers who have ruled the recording studios of Mumbai. Their success is incomparable!
@@yakku1572 ek aur toxic fan aagye... jaake dekhle jab tough competitors the tab Kishore kitni mushkil se 2/3 award jitte the... Aadhe se jyada award 1980 ke bad jite h jab naye singers aagye the aur competition itna nii tha..all of the above mentioned singers were great in their way
A large number of todays singers like to sing Rafi songs but very less to those of Kishore Kumar.Rafi is favourite singer of all the singers of today and past including Kishore Kumar.
With all due respect, I feel that a prominent singer telling others that another singer is far better than himself is the best compliment a singer can get. Yes, because Manna Dey once said that Mohd Rafi was far better a singer than he himself was. All said, Kishore Kumar's voice was a lot more manly than any other Indian singer. He had an in born talent which he displayed in his many songs. His singing capacity never was determined on the basis that he wasn't a trained singer. I think that's the best part of Kishore Kumar's voice & achievements.
भाई आपको क्या तकलीफ़ आप भी गुण गाओ जो आपका प्रिय गायक होगा क्यो नाराज होकर अपने दिवालियेपन बीमार होने का परिचय दे रहे हो लगता है तो डिबेट करो कोई ऐसा नियम है क्या कि कोई अपने विचार को व्यक्त नहीं कर सकते बेटे बुरा कहना सबको आता है ये हिंदुस्तान है काम की बात करो तकलीफ़ बताओ ।
क्यो भाई बीमार हो क्या दया आती है कोई बात नहीं बीमार आदमी अपना आपा खो देता है अंड संद बकता है भोकता है पागल कुत्ते की तरह, काटता है खुजली वाले कुत्ते की तरह भैंस के आगे बीन बजाए बंदर क्या जाने अदरक का स्वाद इलाज कराओ फिर बात करो ।
किसने कहा किशोर दा का दौर 1970 से 1975 तक फिर रफी साहब कम बैंक 1976 से 1980 तक फिर 1980 से 1985 तक किशोर दा दौर फिर 1985 से 1990 शब्बीर कुमार,मो अजीज उदित नारायण जी का दौर ओर इसी तरह ओर गायकों का दौर । रही बात रफी साहब की तो 1950 से 1970 फिर 1976 से 1980 मृत्य तक इस प्रकार कुल 24 वर्ष शीर्ष पर ।चलो बताओ यदि आपकी बात सच है तो 1 किशोर दा ने कितने क्लासिकल गीत गाए 2 कितने क्लासिकल कब्बाली गाए 3 कितने क्लासिकल भजन गाए 4 कितने क्लासिकल गजल गाए 5 कितने भक्ति गीत गाए 6 कितने देशभक्ति गीत गाए इस प्रकार कुल 50 प्रश्न है यदि सही जवाब दे दिया तो आपकी सभी बाते सही ओर बाकी बकवास फिर में कॉमेंट्स करना छोड़ दूंगा शुरू हो जाओ।
Dis msg is to all Rafi sahab fans I respect Rafi sahab cz he is example of hard work N I respect Kishore da cz he is devine god gift who was not learnt Please do not compare human vid god gift Kishore da is god gifted n unique I admire Rafi sahab n will not say a single word against Rafi sahab but Kishore da is god of singinging
When we say a true GOD of singing then we need to back up our facts with what we are saying here !!! No doubt Kishore was a superb versatile singer but how many GOD based religious songs did Kishore cover compared to Mohd Rafi range of Hindu devotional & Muslim devotional & Christian devotional, not forgetting how many private religious albums did Kishore do comapred to Rafi ? Its a known fact Mohd Rafi covered more different styles of music than any other singer of his time !! He sung in more languages than Kishore, Rafi was the first artist to pioneer overseas live shows, Rafi sung numerous patrotic songs including singing for soldiers on the front line, there are known situations when singers like Kishore, Mukesh etc. were unable to fullfil the in-depth emotional requirements of a particular song and Rafi was called to render the song. One such example was from the film Haathi Mere Saathi 1971, A Rajesh Khanna movie and of course all songs by Kishore but for the song "Nafrat Ki Duniya Ko Chhod Ke", Kishore was unable to perform the song as to expectations as this song required powerful high emotions related to the story scene of the film and it was even proposed to leave this song out of the film but it was finally decided they needed this song so it was decided to bring Rafi in he rendered the song so emotionally and powerfully as required and this was proved to be a massive hit indeed. Another example Rafi was the master of Qawalis and even RD Burman who favoured Kishore went to Rafi for big time hit Qawalis. In fact Mohd Rafi rendered songs from Classical, Bhajans, Ghazals, Folk, Rock & Roll, Cabaret, Qawwalis, Devotional, Patriotic, Romantic, Comical, Happy, Sad, philosophical to Disco as well numerous private albums. It is evident to see well known individuals from the industry especially singers praising Mohd Rafi as the VOICE OF GOD !!! Ironically on You Tube you will see the great Amitabh Bachchan praising the greatness of Mohd rafi more than any other singer despite the majority of Amitabh Bachchan's songs were rendered by Kishore. Any true music lover who really knows this subject well and who has listened to music and singers from all genres from 1940's to the present day would know who was the GOD of singing.
@@zeetrance Kishore da ko no2 karne ke liye itna lambs chauda likhna pd rha h Isliliye malum pdta h Ki kisgore jaisa singer nhi aya is duniya me Md rafi ki tarah classic to bhare pde the Pr kishore kumar ki trh koi paida hi nhi hua ajtk
Greatest RAFI SAHAB the GOD of singing, kishor was always like a kid chutiye who couldnt sing and went besura with his hoarse monotonous voice. He was an ordinary singer anyone cant shout and sing check qawals.
Let’s understand here this is javed akhtar opinion and he says in beginning that he is hardcore fan of kishore and mind u he is a story writer not a music director who of that time can be a better judge of play back singers
Well said bro this javed is a nobody. He should stick to his profession of writing (which he is clearly failing at these days) and keep his biased useless opinion to himself.
KK's voice is surely of God's voice. It can't be compared with others. All duet songs sung by KK and others, always audiences given preference to the one and only KK. Other solo songs if sung by others (individually), always KK's songs was super duper hit. Lata Mangeshkar ji knew it very well, it happened several times.
So for me, it is Rafi, Kishore, Asha and Lata, it is sequential, but it is so close that they are indistinguishable. Rafi's voice moves me and is Angelic, kishore is more manly, fun and energetic, Asha is playful and Lata is melodious. It is difficult to chose, but since Rafi's voice moves me emotionally and I identify with it, it is my number 1 choice. :-). Just personal preference not putting down anybody.
I think two qualities apart from kishore,s voice gave him edge over other singers i.e his intelligence and feelings.some refer to it as ,,X,, factor in his songs.
I think it matters how much your voice is masculine think of kishore and rafi,s songs for amihtab, i consider it as advantage for kishore that he was not trained and that was the reason that he sang with feelings and from his heart rather than mechanical way like other singers.
IJAZ HASSAN Rafi training did not allowed him to try new things and go unconventional way. Naushad drag Rafi for not trying such things which give you popularity. If you see who is more popular Kishore name come first. Also Javed sir is saying that you will notice Kishore voice compared to any other singer. When it comes to training and alaap, it is choice of limited people not every people that why Kishore is more popular.
I am sorry....but u have mentioned it many times that Kishore Da could not sing songs like ...Ohh Duniya ke Rakhwale....I accept that...but let me ask u one question and i want and honest answer......Do u really think Mohd. Rafi Sahab could have sang this song...if he had not learned Classical music from a Ustad.....??? Now you will get the answer why Kishore Da did not sing such songs.....i have taken this piece from Wikepedia to help your answer....Mohd. Rafi learnt classical music from Ustad Abdul Wahid Khan, Pandit Jiwan Lal Mattoo and Firoze Nizami.....so if you think....singing classical music based songs....is the mark of superiority..then...with this parameters...Pandit Bhimsen Joshi...Pandit Jasraj, etc. are better singers...than Rafi Sahab...Even Manna Dey was not far behind...coz Manna Da was exceptionally good in classical singing....Listen to Bhai Bhanjana song and ketaki gulab song from Basant Bahar movie...and you will admire...Manna da...even more....with your own criteria....
I m a big fan of Mohd Rafi n Kishore Kumar both but u cannot judge any singer with one song. Imagine the song "Likhe Jo Khat Tujhe" in kishore kumar's voice. Just like Javed ji took kishore kumar's side I will take Rafi's side and say that the magic which Rafi saab had done in Likhe jo Khat Tujhe noone else cand do that. I m sure there may be same examples from kishore da's songs.
"Likhe jo khat tujhe" would have sounded better in Kishore voice. Kishore voice has capability to give song extra edge. Rafi aalaap can do better for music experts like "Tera Baap"
Music connoisseurs never avoid the greatest RAFI SAHAB in fact they lean towards him more. U cant ignore the GOD of music RAFI SAHAB but kishor certainly u can.
Mohammed rafi ke song ki music composition aache coulity ki thi is liye and kishor Kumar sir ka song simple music ka tha aur ek bar dekho dhyan se to pata chalega kishor da is the best
Absolutely right Javed sir.....melody ki bat aati hai to Rafi ko koyi hara nahi sakta. Versatility like yoodling ki bat aati hai to Kishore is the master. Ye dono hindi cinema or do aankhen hai
@@pratibimb3233 ittefaq ap nahi rakhte sabka interview sunna talk kishor kumar pata lagega kya hai kishor da samjha. Baki sab singer hai. Ek hi all-round hai. God gifted hai kishor kumar bas
@@pratibimb3233 apne phir lagta hai beta nusrat fateh ali khana ji ka name nahi suna. Aur ek baat. Ye jo industry hai na beta ye sirf rafi sahab se nahi bani. Sab legends ka yogdaan hai isme samjha kuch nahi pata hota na beta mat bola karo
You are absolutely right. Even Kishorda and Rafisaheb both sung Zindagi ek Safar hai Suhana.....(Movie - Andaz) but people still remember Kishorda's version. Also Rote hue.... ( Muqdar ka Sikander) . People love Kishorda's version only. I agree with Javedsaheb.
The main version as intended and composed for kishor only with incorporated yodelling by SJ. Only situational sad version was for RAFI SAHAB but RAFI sung it way way better than kishor version.
We cannot simply compare two songs of the same title sung in completely different situations and moods. Rafi saab's versions of the two quoted songs were sung completely different in accordance to the storyline scene. Rafi had a few lines and was not in a masti mood with Zindagi ek Safar hai Suhana compared to Kishore's happy fun loving storyline scene. With Muqdar ka Sikander Kishore's version is completely different altogether with Rafi's emotional sad version. If you watch the interview with Adnanji (one half of the music duo) he clearly states they wanted Rafi saab to sing those few emotional lines as nobody could do justice vocally to the sad ending of the film. Ask yourselves why not give Kishore those few sad lines after all he was the main singer of that title song. By giving Rafi just a few short lines in a film to end a very emotional ending states a lot !!! Same goes for Rajesh Khanna movie Amar Deep, all Kishore songs in the movie but Rafi saab was chosen to sing a few short lines to an emotional sad ending. Again in the Rajesh Khanna movie Haathi Mere Saathi, again all Kishore songs but Rafi was chosen to sing the very emotional song ' Nafrat Ki Duniya Ko Chhod Ke ' which gave a very powerful emotional impact on that scene. I could go with an endless list of a examples but one must say with all due respect to Javed saab, whether he was scripted to say what he said or whatever but here I've clearly stated nothing but factual truths which just washes away this edge rubbish against Rafi saab and other singers. Its clearly known and was stated by Sonu Nigaam that there is this anti-Rafi lobby within the industry. Example - Why does RD Burman have the spotlight generally focused on him only ( that's not to say he a was not a superb talented music director ) but what about the other talented music directors who gave classic musical hits, have we forgotten them entirely ?? Why can't we just appreciate all artists with respect for their talents.
Kishore Kumar's falsetto was the best in the world by a wide margin. His vibrato was the most natural vibration EVER by any singer from any country. When Kishore Kumar used vibrato, it never interfered with the emotions of the song. It used to act as a delicate fine touch. While other singers were using vibrato as if like "see see i am using vibrato". Kishore Kumar was a very intelligent singer.
Tera Baap you are a rafi fan its OK but it doesn't mean that you will abuse other singers. Every singer of golden period had their own uniqueness. Stop abusing other singer By the way I am not a Bengali
I dont care to abuse other singer but kishor fans do it always bashing the greatest RAFI SAHAB. It comes mostly form communal minded bengolis this is why I say it.
Javed ji said more than 100% right. It may not be sweet for Rafi and other's fans except KK's. KK's melody and style both are eternal. It can not be compared with others. KK is outstanding, unparalleled, incomparable. It's true, what a voice and style of singing, KK had got from the Maa Saraswati !!
Javed saheb dil khush ker diya apne. Ye bat bina zizak ke kahiye. Ye 100%sahi he. Rafisab, kishore da both r legends. Pl pl pl don't compare between two legends. Dhanywad 🙏
True! Mere naina savan bhado is another song where only kishore da comes to mind, khiltay hain gul yahan When it’s a happy version Kishoreda has an edge, when it’s a sad version again kishore da has an edge! Three factors 1 is the lyrics delivery 2 is yodeling 3 the dominant masculinity both in pain and pleasure hijacks our brains!
Neeraj Anand sahi kaha bahi tumne . Sari film industry ke log Rafi Saab ke gon gate hain ..har music director Rafi Saab ko sab se uper rakh te hain singers mein ..yahan tak ke dosere badeh singers aur kamiyab singers bhi Rafi saab ko mahaan mantel hain .Aise geet jo phele Gaye hue singers ke producers dissatisfied hu kar Rafi saab se dubara gawaye hain.ye log Itne log jab Raf saab ko mahan maan chokey hain to ya Javid Akhtar kiya chiz hai .Ye unka personal opinion hai.Woh koi authority nahi hain ..Rafi Saab was is and will be the greatest versatile and complete singer for ever.kisi ek geet se aap losing ko mahaan nahi keh skate.sab se maahan geet sabse mushkil geet to Rafi Saab ne gaye hain .Hum dosre singers ko bhi chate hain unke geet bhi pasand kartey hain.Hamar paigham mohabat ke siva kuch bhi nahin .ye hum ne Rafi saab se sikha hai.kisi bhi singer ki hum insult nahi karte.Hum sab ki izzat kartey hain.sab ko chatey hain.
If it is voice only then it is Kishore Kumar, if it quality in rendition then it is Manna Dey, and if is both then it is Mohd. Rafi. Why compare among them. Would Javed Saab like if someone compares him with his contemporary writers and choses suitable instances to prove that he is inferior to someone else. It is not expected of a person of his stature.
@@abcentvideo2902 only buddhus term others as buddhus without having any knowledge about the persons they are commenting against. This is outrageous and not expected from any civilised person.
@@MN1961M Are Buddhu bong …Kishoreda was greatest playback filmi singer not because of his voice only but the way he rendered the song as per the emotion , feeling , energy required & also suiting the voice of the actor he sings..eg take Rajesh khanna or Amitabh or Rishi Kapoor or Dharmendra or Pran..it seems they themselves are singing & not Kishoreda.. for classical singer you have many other great… so use your grey matters before scribbling nonsense..
Kishore Kumar's voice was deep and manly, compared to Rafi's voice. That is why Kishore ruled not only the music industry but the film industry as whole. And always on highest demand both from the audience as well as actors. No one can deny these basic facts.
Fantastic analysis. DADA had tremendous DEPTH, VARIETY AND THROW!!! Humming and yodelling was his special style, which no Singer could come even near to it!! Sole owner of yodelling!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Wow! I had never heard 'Tum Bin Jau Kahan' in Kishore Kumar's voice before 😯 Kishore da is an inspiration for amateur singers like me because when you hear his songs, you can feel he is giving his 100% to the songs. I especially enjoyed his mastikhor songs like aake seedhi lagi dil pe jaise katariya, paanch rupiya 12 aana, ek ladki bheegi bhagi si, jai jai shivshankar because you can feel how much he enjoyed singing. He really loved his job and that's what everyone should do. Find a work that brings you immense joy.
Also as a human being down to earth with simplicity and never been anger person is Rafi Saabh which no celebrity or singer ever have this quality till now in Bollywood
@Aamiri bhai you r 100% right. Rafi saabs face and personality reflects that he was very genuine and humble person. Javed saab also right that kishore has edge over all other singers...
I love both Rafi sahab and Kishor da. When I listen to Rafi sahab , I enjoy without doing any comparisons,. Likewise when I listen to Kishor da, I enjoy and live in that moment. Who am I to compare these legends, who am I to judge as to who was better. Both are greatest singers and they were good friends and had great respect for each other. Some people say one is better than other and another one May say it other way round. One thing is for sure that these guys have poor sense of music. Pls stop posting these kind of comments on social media. Love and peace to all.
The lady who sang the female version was parveen sultana.....considered an outstanding exponent of classical singing. Plz dont compare their style. Same with Rafi saab, he sounded more romantic than kishor da in the same number. Kishor da' s was a sad number in the movie. Comparing was wrong on part of javed akhtar saab the legend who understand musi much better then many. Maybe kishor da was his personal favourite like we all have one and argue for the sake of argument.
bhai kishore da aur rafi sahab me koi comparison he nahi h, dono he alag-alag sangeetkar the, dono he mahan the.! P.S. pr "tum bin' gana hamesha rafi sahab ka he gaya hua suhana lagta h
@@shaolinsoccerisadecentmovi7232 rafi is great. no doubt. But people start to compare these singers which is insult to music itself. If you cant proof logically one is better than other then just shut up and enjoy.. I dont waste time comparing these legends.
Kewal blind fan banne se kuchh nahi hota hai. Javed sahab ne Jo bat Kahi hai wo 100% Satya hai. Kishore Jaisa solid awaz to 1000 sal me ek bar paida hota hai. Kisi v singer k boote ke bahar ki cheej hai. Koi to muh me Supari rakh k gata h to koi nak se.
किशोर बेशकीमती नगीना था, लेकिन हीरा अपनी कीमत नही जानता,लेकिन उसकी कद्र कीमत लोगो के दिल ❤️ में unlimited हैं थी रहेगी, कयामत तक जियो लोगो के दिलो में da ❤️
His voice had melody for romantic songs, His voice had pain for sad songs... His voice had fun for comedy songs... and yes this was different from all the other singers...none can do yodelling like he used to do...the legendary Kishore da
Kishore Kumar puts so much soul into the song which makes it very difficult not to notice.
Kishore da's voice was gift from God, he proved the fact that voice quality is much more important than classical singing training. unmatchable voice quality which pierce into your heart like a true love....... I wish he would have access to modern music instruments, you can't even think how good he was going to sound........
kishore kumar voice was like a roar of a tiger
TH-cam pe tum bin jau kaha iss song ka Rafi version me jyada views he 😂
@@loverebel6632.
Tiger 😂😂😂😂😂
@@imnot_reyazBhai actor kon h ye bhi toh dekho movie konsi thi ye bhi dekho Aaj ke time par bhi if song recreate Kiya jata hai with big actor usme zada views hote h
Kishore Da has the ability to bring variation according to the actors. For example Devanand, Rajesh Khanna, Amitabh, Rishi Kapoor. He always kept unique touch according to the actors
Add one person Sanjeev Kumar....
All songs you can hear only Kishore Kumar.
He even sang to new actors in the 80s like Sanjay Dutt, Anil Kapoor, Jackie Shroff, Sunny Deol
That is why he is Kishore da. The quality, clarity, sound, voice, stability and everything else....he is one and only dada 🙏🙏🙏
TH-cam pe tum bin jau kaha iss song ka Rafi version me jyada views he 😂
@@imnot_reyazok muslim
Kishor da unparalleled,unequiletral, unmatchable, incomparable,uff words are not enough to describe this singing god
Don't imitate.
KISHORE Da indeed had a special voice, full of power and rich with emotion,moreover his incredible versatility and range placed him a little higher than the other singers of the industry.
P.S : big salute 2 u Javed Saab,fr u had the guts to convey th truth ...
Yes, Kishore daa always did justice to every song. Unka sirf gala nhi gaata tha balki poora aatma poora body gaata tha...
If u listen to a Kishore Kumar song, u can exactly visualize under what circumstances the actor is singing it in the movie. Feelings, emotions, mood, those subtle nuances very simply great in Kishore songs. These can neither b taught , nor inherited(his sons come no where near him). It is a gift given by God Kishore had that gift.
i feel when you listen to a song you listen to for the voice quality and melody. long after you have seen the movie after years if you think about the actor who did dramatic facial expressions every time when you listen to the song, the beauty of the song is lost. why should we think of any actor when we listen to a song.i think we should hear it just as a song without having the burden of thinking about the movie the story the drama the awkward expressions of those actors.
Replace Kishore to Rafi you will be absolutely right. These where always attributed to Rafi Saab. It's first time I heard someone saying same about KK. Funny.
@@salsYThandle haha 😄 Rafi was replaced by Kishore as the numero uno in 1969. Rafi's thin voice didn't have the depth or pain that Kishore da's masculine voice had.
@@rajarshighosh4821 I realize you have no knowledge about music. You're full of hatred towards an angel Rafi Saab.
Listen the link and you may understand.
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@@salsYThandle brother Rafi was an angel,It's truth .But when we compare ,it's not holiness but sheer ability to surpass ones competent ,matters.You r so innocent that you do not accept the truth that people had replaced Rafi since 1969 by Kishore.It doesn't mean Rafi had lost his sweet voice,but people had heard the the manly voice with many modulations.Kishore had replaced rafi plainly after Aradhana .If the same had been done by rafi to someone,you also said the same about rafi what I. say about kishore.you r rejecting people's choice .You have no knowledge of music nor about the consequences which took place after 1969.Rafi used to perform his live shows in foreign after Aradhana as he didn't get enough songs ,which he used get earlier.Neither Rafi went foreign for his live shows earlier because he had more songs than other singers.Kindly respect people's opinion, accept,the consequences which shows rafi's degradation as we all accept his position before Aradhana.
there're 2 types of singers - Kishore Kumar & Others
Kya baat!!
Aur kishor kumar jaisa koi hai bhi nahi
India has 2 wonders. Taj Mahal and Mohammed Rafi.
Javed Akhter never gave a classic movie like guide, devadas, mughal e azam, pyasa, andaaz. Not a single.
Now he has become champ and calling the likes of SJ NAUSHAD OP NAYAR LP RAVI ROSHAN MADAN M SD BURMAN RAM LAL SONIK OMI IQBAL QURESHI KALYAN JI SALEEL CHAUDHRY USHA KHANNA AND OTHER GREATS THAT YOU FOOLS YOU WERE WRONG IN RELYING ON RAFI TO BE YOUR PRIME SINGER FOR 20 YEARS.
@@rocketshoot3027 why are you just seeing religion
Rafi was, and is, the Emperor of playback.
I just want to say one thing. There is no one like kishore da. Other singers were trained by human beings but he was trained by the Almighty. That's why he was the best. His voice and his song's will never be outdated. He was a Genius. Actors of those days would be incomplete without his voice for sure. Just imagine.
Sir true,people also forget he can create door gagan ke chaon me,door ka rahi .Other sigers only can dream about it.
U have stolen my words
HEMANT MANNA DEY BETTER
which almighty trained him and how?
@@pveekent
Not biological 😅😅😅
True, Kishore da is a genius, he lives through his God gifted voice.🙏🏽
My favourite was Manna Dey, but Kishore Kumar was a very close second for me🙂
Absolutely correct, Kishore Da is the best..🙏🙏😊😊
@@jklseries5595 skillwise Manna Dey is unrivalled. Nobody is nearly as skilful as Manna Dey.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
TH-cam pe tum bin jau kaha iss song ka Rafi version me jyada views he 😂
That is Because he has A Powerful VOICE. And He is Good at YODLING
Yes true, he had a manly voice. That was the attraction.
Lata Mangeshkar, Rafi Saab ye dono bahut mahan hai Lekin kishorda ki hi awaz Dil Ko chhu leti hai, isliye kishorda is the greatest singer in Indian Bollywood industry.
I also feel the same about Kishoreda but when you listen to Lataji or Rafi sahab you feel the same greatness and get confused as to who is the best. Aren't we lucky to so many singers to choose from!!
@@sebastianmathew5669 ra bhai wo sab boht acche hai but kishor kumar ka vocal tone ki sweetness ko beat karna impossible hai ek tarah se wo unparalleled hai or ye me nahi bade bade singing legend bolte hai
Absolutely correct, Kishore Da is the best..🙏🙏😊😊
Rafi is greatest of all time. You can't fool us with your limited or no knowledge of music.
choice is yours but this show that you haven't reached the level of understanding of Md. Rafi's singing
Kyon jhijhak na, kis se darna, Javed sahab ? It’s 100% true what you said. It’s a fact that Kishore Kumar’s voice is so special that your attention will be always on him whether the particular song is also some other’s (male or female) version or a duet. There are many examples : Mere naina saawan bhaado (Mehbooba), Zindegi ek safar (Andaaz), Bane chaahe dushman (Dostana), Na jaane kaise (Badalte Rishte), Ye dosti (Sholey), Hum ko tum se ho gaya hai pyar (Amar Akbar Anthony) … list is long, i can name at least 30 songs starting from 1950s, sung by both other male & female legends, solo or duet.
Why it is so ? What is so special in Kishore Da’s voice ? Voice clarity (whatever language he sings he sings with very clear pronunciation), exceptional BASS and softness, his exceptional quality to connect with the situation of the song - the mood of the song. Nobody has it. Even when Kishore Kumar talks it sounds like singing - it is so melodious and harmonic ! Unless one has those unique qualities nobody could monopolize playback singing for two decades - 1970 & 1980 belong to Kishore Da only.
Thank GOD that Kishore Kumar did not take formal training when he started singing; otherwise he would have ended up as an average singer and we would have never got a trend setter, a REAL LEGEND.
Very well said.
Absolutely right bhai Kishore Kumar is the father of all legendary singers
@@avnishpanwar8938 कुछ ज्यादा ही बोल दिया भाई अतिशयोक्ति सच्चाई से कोसो कोसो दूर।
Very well said...
Not for fear. This is the way of civilized society when polite people start talking like this.
Untouchable unbelievable kishore da no body can beat his voice until today he is magical what a great thing happened ever in India thx to god
100 SINGER EK TARAF===KISHORE DA EK TARAF ( VOICE OF GOD) 🙏🙏🙏💐💐💐🌹🌹🌹
Don't imitate in praising...
Well said.kishore da voice of God.
""भारत रत्न"" किशोर कुमार साहब को शत-शत नमन 🙏🙏🙏
No words to say Kishore was is and will remain the best God gifted singer i really feel he is the best singer i have ever heard singing 🎤 class apart really southing voice commanding the wait was always there in his singing 🎤
Javed akhtar is absolutely right.... Kishore da had that X factor in his voice.
#RaajDutta
Aur yhi X factor har kisi ko mhaan bnaata h.... This kishore da has earn despite all odds.. Long live kishore da🙏🙏
Javed akhtar juth bol raha he TH-cam pe tum bin jau kaha iss song ka Rafi version me jyada views he 😂
YES..JAVED SAHAB YOU ARE RIGHT..AND IT'S 100% TRUE
Is chu,iye dokre ne or tune binaca gitmala 1969 ki nahi dekhi jisme rafi ka version 16 or kk ka 17 per tha
@@manojmalviya1087 TU US Waqt G*** 😂😆
@@manojmalviya1087 Javed sahab ne jo sachchai byakt ki teri to fat gayi be....😠😠
@@Kishore_108 jin 100 logo ki bolti bnd krke m retired hua hun umse tu ek h sher ki khal m gidad.isliye jo bolna h bol iam retired
Bharat Ratna for Rafi Sahab ♥️...
'"'भारत रत्न""किशोर कुमार साहब को शत-शत प्रणाम 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Unfortunately he hasn't received a Padmashri, let alone Bharat Ratna. On the other hand, Kangana is already a Padmashri awardee.
Vishwa ratna the wo. Jai kishoreda
@@orthosarthak wo marne ke baad bhi abaam ki dilon dimag mein zinda hain aur unke gaana amar hain... Itna kaffi hai.. wo bharat ke ratna the.. agar award recognition hai toh unko ye zaroorat nhi unke ganon se hi wo besak bharat ke ratna hai.....
Because Kishore Kumar rejected Nehru for a free performance .
@@orthosarthak Is kangana a singer.
Kishore Da - The most versatile singer India has ever produced.
Vijay Verma Kishore da no doubt great singer but Versailles belong in class singing one and only Rafi sb۔
@@mohammedjamil8786 that's your phone point of view.. As for me Kishore Kumar is "The Greatest ", case closed.
@@vijayverma6491
Okay I agree with you , (blind say where is light ,, sun is not responsible any one BLINDNESS)
@@mohammedjamil8786 Kishore Kumar, let alone India,he was the greatest singer ever produced by mankind
@@mohammedjamil8786 yah still today Kishore songs getting 200 million + views.
Nobody is even 50 percent close to Legend Kishore Da.... although Rafi was too very great and classic singer but Kishore Da voice is very very deep in all aspects with a mail touch all around....even in modern context there are good singers like Kumar Sanu, Sonu Nigam , Abhijit and latest hit Arijit but all these are not even 40 percent of Kishore Kumar..... 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Mohammed Rafi Saab greatest of all time
Rafi saab great
@@yw-subzero9323 Rafi was undoubtedly one of the best singer of all time...but Kishore Da is just nostalgic and a complete package...infact Kishore Kumar become popular due to his calibre of singing fast track songs and including some fantastic yodling in his songs....A gift from God to the mother earth
@@abcd51849 ur right dear Kishore Da is legend but He himself confess that Rafi saab is better than him
Firstly you said only 'Rafi'. This is too heinous word. And then you should have to listen Rafi Sahab that means God's spellbound voice.
That humming in Tum bin song by Kishore Da awesome
It was absolutely pathetic
Rightly said sir . Kishore sir was the only singer ever to live who can change his voice according to the personality of a star which looked like the star is himself singing .
Joke of the century.
@@salsYThandle kk was a pathetic singer should be ashamed to compare him with the king
Rafi sahab wali line apne Kishore da pe chipka di, waah.
Right Mamta Ji. But ye baat mulle nahi manenge. Unki nazar me to altaf raza bhi kishore se better hai🤣😂
@@guru7514 🤣🤣🤣🤣 right
Kishore Kumar was one like none other and he was the owner of very beautiful voice.
Further to this Javed Akhtar tells the story of recording of the song "Yun hi gaate raho" from Saagar , where Kishore da had to sing along with SPB. With all due respect to SPB ji, he sang his part really well, and the kind of bold voice he has, Javed Akhtar said he started worrying how Kishore Kumar's voice will sound in comparison of SPB's , who had to record his lines the next day. Those day Kishore da was recovering form his hearth attack that he had some time back. And when Dada came next day and sang his lines, again his lines stood out like anything ...
200% Correct......no doubt
Very rightly said - In that last song he was using Falsetto notes which is a modern Western technique. Kishore was a complete Musician!
@shivam yadav kk was a ten a penny singer,don't insult rafi by comparing them,sun and candle
@@Lindaeditz8 i know where you are coming from and why you stand there.... you are R Blind as usual... Open your Eyes dude...1000 Rafi's can't bring one feel what Kishore does in his songs...and that God gifted Voice which is 10000 times better by miles...
@@sathishscorpion Your statement was somewhat interesting to tell @Irfan Ahmed to open his eyes !! In fact you should be opening your ears my friend to listen with an open heart the art of singing from the early years from the 1940s to the present day and of all different genre of songs. I'm sure you would agree that Bollywood music didn't start from the 1970s !! Kishore was a fantastic singer with a vibrant range but the fact is he was only a playback singer, how many non-film albums did he have catering for specific genres ? You obviously don't know Mohammed Rafi that well to make such crude statements as you did. Let’s look at Rafi’s repertoire of song styles from non-film Classical Bhajans & Ghazals to village folk, Rock & Roll, Cabaret, Qawwalis, Devotional, Patriotic, Romantic, Comical, Happy, Sad, philosophical to Disco. He sung in more styles than any other male singer of his generation and that’s a fact.
As a Muslim it is widely regarded he rendered Hindu devotional songs better than any other hindu male singers.
He sung in more Languages than any other male singer of his generation and that was eivident non-film albums also. Lets dig in further to Rafi’s sheer talent, Despite RD Burman having more Kishore songs, when it came to Qawwalis, RD went to Rafi mostly as Qawwalis wasn’t really Kishore’s cup of tea even though Kishore has sung a few Qawwali songs. Ironically with RD Burman, his fame came to the scene initially having Rafi singing most of his earlier songs with RD rise to the main spotlight from Teersi Manzil 1966 with all songs sung by Rafi which was a superhit musical, where was Kishore at the time, as he became a singer in films from 1948.
The film Muqaddar Ka Sikandar 1978, the hit song "Rote Hue Ate Hain Sab" sung well by Kishore but a sad version was required, but Kalyanji-Anandji wanted Rafi to sing a few lines to end the film but Rafi apparently suggested it was Kishore’s song so Kishore should sing the sad version but on Kalyanji-Anandji insistence they thought the in depth emotions of the sad version should be sung by Rafi only and he did just that in "Zindagi To Bewafa Hai"
The film Amar Deep 1979 Rajesh Khanna starrer all songs by Kishore but for the end scene of the film a few emotional lines was required by Rafi to render "Duniya Mein Sada". Why not Kishore ? after all songs were sung by Kishore in the film.
For the film Pyaasa 195, Rafi showed his amazing vocal modulation for singing the deep philosophical songs for Guru Dutt while singing for Comical playful Johnny Walker in the same film and you would think how could this be the same singer. This was widely noted by Bollywood artists for Rafi’s vocal range and modulation on different actors.
From the film Haathi Mere Saathi 1971, A Rajesh Khanna movie and of course all songs by Kishore but for the song "Nafrat Ki Duniya Ko Chhod Ke", Kishore was unable to perform the song as to Laxmikant-Pyarelal’s expectations as this song required powerful high emotions to the story of the film and it was even proposed to leave this song out of the film but it was finally decided and further backed by LP, Rajesh Khanna etc. they needed this song so it was decided to bring Rafi in and he rendered the song so emotionally and powerfully as required was proved to be a big hit indeed. All the songs from the film Hum kisise Kum Naheen were fantastic superhit songs sung mainly by Kishore, Asha and Rafi. Both Kishore and Rafi was given 4 songs each by RD Burman. If you look carefully Kishore had all peppy songs while Rafi had a variation song styles from Romantic,happy, Qawwali and sad. As everyone should know the song “kya hua tera wada” became the overall superhit rage and won Rafi the Filmfare and National Award in 1978 ironically by a RD Burman song for which Kishore never achieved this winning combination from a RD number from all the RD/Kishore hits they had together. I could go on further forever if I wanted to but it will have no end. So one should think carefully before making crude statements against singers. At the end of the day I have the most respect for all singers especially from the old generation who were unique in their voices and styles
@@Lindaeditz8 totally unhygienic statement for great Kishore Kumar. You must be ashamed of your statement. Frankly the universe critics say the voice clarity and higher pitch of great Kishore surpasses over Rafi and others. Mind your language please.
@@Lindaeditz8 yes rafi is better because he is muslim 😎
Forget other singers, Kishore Kumar has also edge over his singing. Aake sidhi lagi mein female aur male dono awaaz mein gaya. He was a gem.
1000 no. Of comments, love kishore kumar
I love Kishore da.... Kishore da jaisa koi nahi...
Kishore Da,
Love you more and more 🌷
You are the best singer of this universe 😍
Your fan from Lahore
javed sab you say 100% truly words.
He bloody deaf like you
Immortal voice of Sir Kishore Da
Lata is great but then so is Asha an incomparable singer. Lata, Asha, Rafi and Kishore are all brilliant singers who have ruled the recording studios of Mumbai. Their success is incomparable!
@Pratima Pillai and you forgot Hemant Kumar and Geeta Dutt!
Just a sugar coat sentence, truth is Kishore kumar triumphed all
@@yakku1572 ek aur toxic fan aagye... jaake dekhle jab tough competitors the tab Kishore kitni mushkil se 2/3 award jitte the... Aadhe se jyada award 1980 ke bad jite h jab naye singers aagye the aur competition itna nii tha..all of the above mentioned singers were great in their way
@@himanshujoshi2299 and whose songs are popular till today.
Mukesh
Laakh baton ki ek baat kehdi javed saab apne, yes yehi sach hai, kishore da is just unbelivable.
He was one legend whom The Almighty had sent in this world to sing. He is immortal. 2020 stillKk rules.
A large number of todays singers like to sing Rafi songs but very less to those of Kishore Kumar.Rafi is favourite singer of all the singers of today and past including Kishore Kumar.
Rafi sahib ki awaz ka koi mukaballa nhi
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Usman lone sahab,
sahi pakde hain.
ye BENGALI hi hai.
Aur har BENGALI ko Kishor aur sirf Kishor dikhai deta hai.
Javed SB absolutely right Kishore Kumar is above of all no one till present 2021 near to Kishoe
With all due respect, I feel that a prominent singer telling others that another singer is far better than himself is the best compliment a singer can get. Yes, because Manna Dey once said that Mohd Rafi was far better a singer than he himself was. All said, Kishore Kumar's voice was a lot more manly than any other Indian singer. He had an in born talent which he displayed in his many songs. His singing capacity never was determined on the basis that he wasn't a trained singer. I think that's the best part of Kishore Kumar's voice & achievements.
Rafi sahab voice of God and voice of india ,king of honey,silky,soft,ruhani ❤️ touching ,sweet,melodious,voice .
भाई आपको क्या तकलीफ़ आप भी गुण गाओ जो आपका प्रिय गायक होगा क्यो नाराज होकर अपने दिवालियेपन बीमार होने का परिचय दे रहे हो लगता है तो डिबेट करो कोई ऐसा नियम है क्या कि कोई अपने विचार को व्यक्त नहीं कर सकते बेटे बुरा कहना सबको आता है ये हिंदुस्तान है काम की बात करो तकलीफ़ बताओ ।
क्यो भाई बीमार हो क्या दया आती है कोई बात नहीं बीमार आदमी अपना आपा खो देता है अंड संद बकता है भोकता है पागल कुत्ते की तरह, काटता है खुजली वाले कुत्ते की तरह भैंस के आगे बीन बजाए बंदर क्या जाने अदरक का स्वाद इलाज कराओ फिर बात करो ।
बेटे अपना ब्लड चेक कराओ डाउट है
किसने कहा किशोर दा का दौर 1970 से 1975 तक फिर रफी साहब कम बैंक 1976 से 1980 तक फिर 1980 से 1985 तक किशोर दा दौर फिर 1985 से 1990 शब्बीर कुमार,मो अजीज उदित नारायण जी का दौर ओर इसी तरह ओर गायकों का दौर ।
रही बात रफी साहब की तो 1950 से 1970 फिर 1976 से 1980 मृत्य तक इस प्रकार कुल 24 वर्ष शीर्ष पर ।चलो बताओ यदि आपकी बात सच है तो
1 किशोर दा ने कितने क्लासिकल गीत गाए
2 कितने क्लासिकल कब्बाली गाए
3 कितने क्लासिकल भजन गाए
4 कितने क्लासिकल गजल गाए
5 कितने भक्ति गीत गाए
6 कितने देशभक्ति गीत गाए
इस प्रकार कुल 50 प्रश्न है यदि सही जवाब दे दिया तो आपकी सभी बाते सही ओर बाकी बकवास फिर में कॉमेंट्स करना छोड़ दूंगा शुरू हो जाओ।
स्व.श्री. किशोर कुमार जी दादा आप हमेशा हमारे दिलोमे जिन्दाँ है।
Dis msg is to all Rafi sahab fans
I respect Rafi sahab cz he is example of hard work
N
I respect Kishore da cz he is devine god gift who was not learnt
Please do not compare human vid god gift
Kishore da is god gifted n unique
I admire Rafi sahab n will not say a single word against Rafi sahab but Kishore da is god of singinging
U r ryt bro
@Waqas Mustafa come on I love rafi and kk is a joke in comparison but don't use such language is not appropriate for Muslims to say such things
When we say a true GOD of singing then we need to back up our facts with what we are saying here !!! No doubt Kishore was a superb versatile singer but how many GOD based religious songs did Kishore cover compared to Mohd Rafi range of Hindu devotional & Muslim devotional & Christian devotional, not forgetting how many private religious albums did Kishore do comapred to Rafi ? Its a known fact Mohd Rafi covered more different styles of music than any other singer of his time !! He sung in more languages than Kishore, Rafi was the first artist to pioneer overseas live shows, Rafi sung numerous patrotic songs including singing for soldiers on the front line, there are known situations when singers like Kishore, Mukesh etc. were unable to fullfil the in-depth emotional requirements of a particular song and Rafi was called to render the song. One such example was from the film Haathi Mere Saathi 1971, A Rajesh Khanna movie and of course all songs by Kishore but for the song "Nafrat Ki Duniya Ko Chhod Ke", Kishore was unable to perform the song as to expectations as this song required powerful high emotions related to the story scene of the film and it was even proposed to leave this song out of the film but it was finally decided they needed this song so it was decided to bring Rafi in he rendered the song so emotionally and powerfully as required and this was proved to be a massive hit indeed. Another example Rafi was the master of Qawalis and even RD Burman who favoured Kishore went to Rafi for big time hit Qawalis. In fact Mohd Rafi rendered songs from Classical, Bhajans, Ghazals, Folk, Rock & Roll, Cabaret, Qawwalis, Devotional, Patriotic, Romantic, Comical, Happy, Sad, philosophical to Disco as well numerous private albums. It is evident to see well known individuals from the industry especially singers praising Mohd Rafi as the VOICE OF GOD !!! Ironically on You Tube you will see the great Amitabh Bachchan praising the greatness of Mohd rafi more than any other singer despite the majority of Amitabh Bachchan's songs were rendered by Kishore. Any true music lover who really knows this subject well and who has listened to music and singers from all genres from 1940's to the present day would know who was the GOD of singing.
@@zeetrance
Nice joke
@@zeetrance
Kishore da ko no2 karne ke liye itna lambs chauda likhna pd rha h
Isliliye malum pdta h
Ki kisgore jaisa singer nhi aya is duniya me
Md rafi ki tarah classic to bhare pde the
Pr kishore kumar ki trh koi paida hi nhi hua ajtk
So true! I always preferred Kishore da's version over others. His voice has some edge...some X-factor...! So perfect for play back singing.
i born to listen to kishor kumar voice
Ajay Singh acha sach me😂
Ajay Singh
Because you would be dead if you listened to Rafi's thin voice
Greatest RAFI SAHAB the GOD of singing, kishor was always like a kid chutiye who couldnt sing and went besura with his hoarse monotonous voice. He was an ordinary singer anyone cant shout and sing check qawals.
Let’s understand here this is javed akhtar opinion and he says in beginning that he is hardcore fan of kishore and mind u he is a story writer not a music director who of that time can be a better judge of play back singers
Well said bro this javed is a nobody. He should stick to his profession of writing (which he is clearly failing at these days) and keep his biased useless opinion to himself.
KK's voice is surely of God's voice. It can't be compared with others. All duet songs sung by KK and others, always audiences given preference to the one and only KK. Other solo songs if sung by others (individually), always KK's songs was super duper hit. Lata Mangeshkar ji knew it very well, it happened several times.
Ur Mad
So for me, it is Rafi, Kishore, Asha and Lata, it is sequential, but it is so close that they are indistinguishable. Rafi's voice moves me and is Angelic, kishore is more manly, fun and energetic, Asha is playful and Lata is melodious. It is difficult to chose, but since Rafi's voice moves me emotionally and I identify with it, it is my number 1 choice. :-). Just personal preference not putting down anybody.
I think two qualities apart from kishore,s voice gave him edge over other singers i.e his intelligence and feelings.some refer to it as ,,X,, factor in his songs.
IJAZ HASSAN
Sahi kaha. You will not find such quality in any other singers.
lata and asha got a genuine female voice but the same is not true for rafi as male singer.in contrast kishore was blessed with genuine male voice.
I think it matters how much your voice is masculine think of kishore and rafi,s songs for amihtab, i consider it as advantage for kishore that he was not trained and that was the reason that he sang with feelings and from his heart rather than mechanical way like other singers.
IJAZ HASSAN
Rafi training did not allowed him to try new things and go unconventional way. Naushad drag Rafi for not trying such things which give you popularity. If you see who is more popular Kishore name come first. Also Javed sir is saying that you will notice Kishore voice compared to any other singer. When it comes to training and alaap, it is choice of limited people not every people that why Kishore is more popular.
I am sorry....but u have mentioned it many times that Kishore Da could not sing songs like ...Ohh Duniya ke Rakhwale....I accept that...but let me ask u one question and i want and honest answer......Do u really think Mohd. Rafi Sahab could have sang this song...if he had not learned Classical music from a Ustad.....??? Now you will get the answer why Kishore Da did not sing such songs.....i have taken this piece from Wikepedia to help your answer....Mohd. Rafi learnt classical music from Ustad Abdul Wahid Khan, Pandit Jiwan Lal Mattoo and Firoze Nizami.....so if you think....singing classical music based songs....is the mark of superiority..then...with this parameters...Pandit Bhimsen Joshi...Pandit Jasraj, etc. are better singers...than Rafi Sahab...Even Manna Dey was not far behind...coz Manna Da was exceptionally good in classical singing....Listen to Bhai Bhanjana song and ketaki gulab song from Basant Bahar movie...and you will admire...Manna da...even more....with your own criteria....
the Greatest contemporary Singer of Bharata..
Sudhur Mada
Sir
I am your fan
Sir please don't make bharata of Bharat
@@novicesinger12😂😂😂
Kishor kumar Legendary Singer😍😍
Aawaz ka raja kishore kumar.
I m a big fan of Mohd Rafi n Kishore Kumar both but u cannot judge any singer with one song.
Imagine the song "Likhe Jo Khat Tujhe" in kishore kumar's voice.
Just like Javed ji took kishore kumar's side I will take Rafi's side and say that the magic which Rafi saab had done in Likhe jo Khat Tujhe noone else cand do that.
I m sure there may be same examples from kishore da's songs.
"Likhe jo khat tujhe" would have sounded better in Kishore voice.
Kishore voice has capability to give song extra edge.
Rafi aalaap can do better for music experts like "Tera Baap"
Tera Baap
Too much aalaap is boring and sounding weeping.
That's why people in general avoid them if too much.
'Alaap' lol how dumb are you mr frustrated sanjiv.
Music connoisseurs never avoid the greatest RAFI SAHAB in fact they lean towards him more. U cant ignore the GOD of music RAFI SAHAB but kishor certainly u can.
God of music mohd rafi sahab
Kishore kumar sir......legacy shall remain always 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Absolutely right Javed saab
""tum bin jao kahan "" wala to Mohd Rafi ka jyada acha laga
Sahi bt ha
Mohammed rafi ke song ki music composition aache coulity ki thi is liye and kishor Kumar sir ka song simple music ka tha aur ek bar dekho dhyan se to pata chalega kishor da is the best
@@sagarkhandare1221 bro pehli baar to ek sad version ek melodious version.. Comparison hi illogical h
@@himanshujoshi2299 what Mr jolousie man jalra hai kya burnol lagale
Absolutely right Javed sir.....melody ki bat aati hai to Rafi ko koyi hara nahi sakta. Versatility like yoodling ki bat aati hai to Kishore is the master. Ye dono hindi cinema or do aankhen hai
किशोर कुमार की आवाज एक ऐसी दुनिया की आवाज थी जहां तक कोई भी गायक कभी भी नहीं पहुंच पाएगा!
इत्तेफाक नही रखता तुझ से
मोहम्मद रफी साहब का नाम तो सुना ही होगा
फिर मोहम्मद अज़ीज़ साहेब फिर लता आती है और उसके बाद आभास गांगुली उर्फ किशोर
@@pratibimb3233 ittefaq ap nahi rakhte sabka interview sunna talk kishor kumar pata lagega kya hai kishor da samjha. Baki sab singer hai. Ek hi all-round hai. God gifted hai kishor kumar bas
@@RajatKumar-me1gj सबके अब्बू है रफी साहब
@@pratibimb3233 apne phir lagta hai beta nusrat fateh ali khana ji ka name nahi suna. Aur ek baat. Ye jo industry hai na beta ye sirf rafi sahab se nahi bani. Sab legends ka yogdaan hai isme samjha kuch nahi pata hota na beta mat bola karo
@@RajatKumar-me1gj रफी साहब का नाम थोड़ा अदब और तहजीब से लो समझे तुम वो मियां तानसेन है दूसरे किशोर बस एक गायक था वो मुक्कमल संगीत
You are absolutely right. Even Kishorda and Rafisaheb both sung Zindagi ek Safar hai Suhana.....(Movie - Andaz) but people still remember Kishorda's version. Also Rote hue.... ( Muqdar ka Sikander) . People love Kishorda's version only. I agree with Javedsaheb.
RAFI SAHAB has not sung full song it is partial and duet also.
The main version as intended and composed for kishor only with incorporated yodelling by SJ. Only situational sad version was for RAFI SAHAB but RAFI sung it way way better than kishor version.
We cannot simply compare two songs of the same title sung in completely different situations and moods. Rafi saab's versions of the two quoted songs were sung completely different in accordance to the storyline scene. Rafi had a few lines and was not in a masti mood with Zindagi ek Safar hai Suhana compared to Kishore's happy fun loving storyline scene. With Muqdar ka Sikander Kishore's version is completely different altogether with Rafi's emotional sad version. If you watch the interview with Adnanji (one half of the music duo) he clearly states they wanted Rafi saab to sing those few emotional lines as nobody could do justice vocally to the sad ending of the film. Ask yourselves why not give Kishore those few sad lines after all he was the main singer of that title song. By giving Rafi just a few short lines in a film to end a very emotional ending states a lot !!! Same goes for Rajesh Khanna movie Amar Deep, all Kishore songs in the movie but Rafi saab was chosen to sing a few short lines to an emotional sad ending. Again in the Rajesh Khanna movie Haathi Mere Saathi, again all Kishore songs but Rafi was chosen to sing the very emotional song ' Nafrat Ki Duniya Ko Chhod Ke ' which gave a very powerful emotional impact on that scene. I could go with an endless list of a examples but one must say with all due respect to Javed saab, whether he was scripted to say what he said or whatever but here I've clearly stated nothing but factual truths which just washes away this edge rubbish against Rafi saab and other singers. Its clearly known and was stated by Sonu Nigaam that there is this anti-Rafi lobby within the industry. Example - Why does RD Burman have the spotlight generally focused on him only ( that's not to say he a was not a superb talented music director ) but what about the other talented music directors who gave classic musical hits, have we forgotten them entirely ?? Why can't we just appreciate all artists with respect for their talents.
Atul Parikh , nonsense talk.
Rafi sahab is the greatest singer the world has ever seen.
Kishore Kumar's falsetto was the best in the world by a wide margin.
His vibrato was the most natural vibration EVER by any singer from any country.
When Kishore Kumar used vibrato, it never interfered with the emotions of the song. It used to act as a delicate fine touch. While other singers were using vibrato as if like "see see i am using vibrato". Kishore Kumar was a very intelligent singer.
RIGHT KISHORE KING OF SINGER HAI
hemant manna dey mahen kapoor talat mehndi hassan CH atma
Yes Usman lon tum bin Rafi sahab ki awaz me hi Dil me utarta hai
yes kishore sir was the most talented singer.
Kaun singer best hai mai nahi janta hu,lekin kishore kumar kal bhi sabse jyada popular the or aj bhi sabse jyada popular hai
Is there anybody who is fan of manna dey?
I'm there...fan of manna dey and kishore Kumar
Tera Baap you are a rafi fan its OK but it doesn't mean that you will abuse other singers. Every singer of golden period had their own uniqueness. Stop abusing other singer
By the way I am not a Bengali
I dont care to abuse other singer but kishor fans do it always bashing the greatest RAFI SAHAB. It comes mostly form communal minded bengolis this is why I say it.
Manna dey is RAFI bhakht and said 1 to 100 positions belong to him than the counting of the other singers begin. And yes he is 100% right.
I challenge you openly to fight with me agar tu schha hai to.all abuses are returned to you.accept my challenges I will beat you within 10 seconds.
Javed ji said more than 100% right. It may not be sweet for Rafi and other's fans except KK's. KK's melody and style both are eternal. It can not be compared with others. KK is outstanding, unparalleled, incomparable. It's true, what a voice and style of singing, KK had got from the Maa Saraswati !!
Javed saheb dil khush ker diya apne. Ye bat bina zizak ke kahiye. Ye 100%sahi he. Rafisab, kishore da both r legends. Pl pl pl don't compare between two legends. Dhanywad 🙏
True! Mere naina savan bhado is another song where only kishore da comes to mind, khiltay hain gul yahan
When it’s a happy version Kishoreda has an edge, when it’s a sad version again kishore da has an edge! Three factors 1 is the lyrics delivery 2 is yodeling 3 the dominant masculinity both in pain and pleasure hijacks our brains!
Suhail Khatib
for 'yaad na jaye bite dinon ki'
'ye aansoo mere dil ki zubaan hai'
'daman me daag laga baithe'
.........
Rafi Rafi Rafi & ,only Rafi
Neeraj Anand sahi kaha bahi tumne . Sari film industry ke log Rafi Saab ke gon gate hain ..har music director Rafi Saab ko sab se uper rakh te hain singers mein ..yahan tak ke dosere badeh singers aur kamiyab singers bhi Rafi saab ko mahaan mantel hain .Aise geet jo phele Gaye hue singers ke producers dissatisfied hu kar Rafi saab se dubara gawaye hain.ye log Itne log jab Raf saab ko mahan maan chokey hain to ya Javid Akhtar kiya chiz hai .Ye unka personal opinion hai.Woh koi authority nahi hain ..Rafi Saab was is and will be the greatest versatile and complete singer for ever.kisi ek geet se aap losing ko mahaan nahi keh skate.sab se maahan geet sabse mushkil geet to Rafi Saab ne gaye hain .Hum dosre singers ko bhi chate hain unke geet bhi pasand kartey hain.Hamar paigham mohabat ke siva kuch bhi nahin .ye hum ne Rafi saab se sikha hai.kisi bhi singer ki hum insult nahi karte.Hum sab ki izzat kartey hain.sab ko chatey hain.
Read kisiko in place of losing in my above post.
India has 2 wonders. RAFI AND TAJ MAHAL
यह गाना केवल गाना लगता है। Haunting melody नहीं। Haunting melody है सुबह न आई शाम न आई।
My most favourite singer is Rafi sahab. Then kishore da also but Javed ji has a point.❤️❤️
Tum bin jau kaha Rafi version has more views than Kishore kumar sad version so javed akhtar point is baseless here 😊
Kishore Kumar the God 🙏🙏💟
Rafi saahab ki aawaz zyada meethi aur acchi lag rahi hai "tum bin jaaoon kahan" me.
If it is voice only then it is Kishore Kumar, if it quality in rendition then it is Manna Dey, and if is both then it is Mohd. Rafi. Why compare among them. Would Javed Saab like if someone compares him with his contemporary writers and choses suitable instances to prove that he is inferior to someone else. It is not expected of a person of his stature.
You are dear bingo buddhu
@@abcentvideo2902 only buddhus term others as buddhus without having any knowledge about the persons they are commenting against. This is outrageous and not expected from any civilised person.
@@MN1961M Are Buddhu bong …Kishoreda was greatest playback filmi singer not because of his voice only but the way he rendered the song as per the emotion , feeling , energy required & also suiting the voice of the actor he sings..eg take Rajesh khanna or Amitabh or Rishi Kapoor or Dharmendra or Pran..it seems they themselves are singing & not Kishoreda.. for classical singer you have many other great… so use your grey matters before scribbling nonsense..
@@abcentvideo2902 kishoreda is world best singer reality is reality kisise kuch bi farak nahi padtha
Kishore Kumar's voice was deep and manly, compared to Rafi's voice. That is why Kishore ruled not only the music industry but the film industry as whole. And always on highest demand both from the audience as well as actors. No one can deny these basic facts.
Man with divine grace called kishore kumar
My first fvt star Ashok Kumar and Kishore Kumar great job by you sanjiv ji GBU
Fantastic analysis. DADA had tremendous DEPTH, VARIETY AND THROW!!!
Humming and yodelling was his special style, which no Singer could come even near to it!! Sole owner of yodelling!!!
🙏🙏🙏🙏
Couldn't agree more javed sahab👏👏
There can't be a greater singer than Kishore Kumar and actor than Amitabh Bachhan
Rafi sab ka version sweet hai javead sab ap ho kha
Jali na tere jali 😂
Sahi bt ha Rafi sb ki vioce bht achi ha
Her bande ki apni soch ha Rafi sb best ever
Love from Mauritius. Kishoreda is the best.
Wow! I had never heard 'Tum Bin Jau Kahan' in Kishore Kumar's voice before 😯 Kishore da is an inspiration for amateur singers like me because when you hear his songs, you can feel he is giving his 100% to the songs. I especially enjoyed his mastikhor songs like aake seedhi lagi dil pe jaise katariya, paanch rupiya 12 aana, ek ladki bheegi bhagi si, jai jai shivshankar because you can feel how much he enjoyed singing. He really loved his job and that's what everyone should do. Find a work that brings you immense joy.
Also as a human being down to earth with simplicity and never been anger person is Rafi Saabh which no celebrity or singer ever have this quality till now in Bollywood
Muhammad Rafi Aamiri sahab,
Being a saintly person was Rafi sahab's quality. But apart from that Rafi sahab is the greatest singer ever born.
@Aamiri bhai you r 100% right. Rafi saabs face and personality reflects that he was very genuine and humble person. Javed saab also right that kishore has edge over all other singers...
@@bimalkumardeb2435 rong bro... Unhe dhang se sun lo pehel na, sahaab ko to pata chalega tumhe ke god ki voice kya hoti hai..
Javeb sahab aisi baat keh di...k comment Karna hi pada....wah...
Musically Urs,
🌟अपूर्व शाह🌟 #ApurvaShah
I like Rafi sahab's version of tum bin
Absolutely correct ❤️👍🙏
Jai ho Maha Guru Kishore Kumar Ji🙏
Sweet, energetic smooth, attractive to listen just only one kishore kumar,
King of all the voices in the whole word,, love from multan Punjab Pakistan
I love both Rafi sahab and Kishor da. When I listen to Rafi sahab , I enjoy without doing any comparisons,. Likewise when I listen to Kishor da, I enjoy and live in that moment.
Who am I to compare these legends, who am I to judge as to who was better. Both are greatest singers and they were good friends and had great respect for each other. Some people say one is better than other and another one May say it other way round. One thing is for sure that these guys have poor sense of music. Pls stop posting these kind of comments on social media. Love and peace to all.
Very true Kishore da was grt gifted with a grt voice
TILL THIS PLANET IS ALIVE,KISHORE KUMAR WILL BE ALIVE IN OUR HEARTS,I DO BELIEVE IT FROM THE CORE OF MY HEART,I MEAN IT.
Whom you choose as your best singer is a matter of your perception of greatness. BUT, to millions, Rafi Saab is the BEST UNTIL THE END OF TIME.
True
किशोर कुमार निःसन्देह सर्वश्रेष्ठ गायक थे। کشور کُمار بےشک افضل ترین گلوکار تھے۔
श्रेष्ठ
@@ManmohanSingh-wf6bb YES
@@ManmohanSingh-wf6bb sarv shreshtha
@@barium_67 नहीं श्रेष्ठ गायक थे सर्वश्रेष्ठ गायक तो सिर्फ ओर सिर्फ रफी साहब थे फिर भी शंका हो तो बताए ओर लीजिए प्रमाण
@@barium_67 th-cam.com/video/ofvTb5OEuEk/w-d-xo.html
सुने ओर भ्रम दूर करे।
The lady who sang the female version was parveen sultana.....considered an outstanding exponent of classical singing. Plz dont compare their style. Same with Rafi saab, he sounded more romantic than kishor da in the same number. Kishor da' s was a sad number in the movie. Comparing was wrong on part of javed akhtar saab the legend who understand musi much better then many. Maybe kishor da was his personal favourite like we all have one and argue for the sake of argument.
Agree
U r great , u r really great, because u r right.
Javedsaab said the truth... Kishoreda was the best bollywood ever had... nobody could match him... neither rafi or parveen sultana
जावेद साहब आपने तो मेरे दिल की बात ही बयाँ कर दी । किशोर कुमार जैसा गायक ना तो पहले हुआ , ना आज है और ना ही भविष्य में कभी होगा !
Kishore Kumar as kishore da
Deadly comb😊 with Rajesh Khanna & Pancham da🎉
bhai kishore da aur rafi sahab me koi comparison he nahi h, dono he alag-alag sangeetkar the, dono he mahan the.!
P.S. pr "tum bin' gana hamesha rafi sahab ka he gaya hua suhana lagta h
Mo. Rafi is GOAT......
I heard both felt both music both are greatest but rafi wins over
try using full form
goat is 🐩
@@mrbeyonder6081 be vegan and live your life without animal suffering.
Aapki Baat mane ya Lata Mangeshkar,ASHA Bhosle jaiso ki?....Atleast ye to likh do ki ye Aapka opinion ha
@@shaolinsoccerisadecentmovi7232 rafi is great. no doubt. But people start to compare these singers which is insult to music itself. If you cant proof logically one is better than other then just shut up and enjoy..
I dont waste time comparing these legends.
Bhai mat krr comparison
In fact md rafi ji's version is soothing
And forgotten
gurudev Kishore da
Both Kishoreda & Rafisahab were great...They infact admired each other & had tremendous respect for each other
Kewal blind fan banne se kuchh nahi hota hai. Javed sahab ne Jo bat Kahi hai wo 100% Satya hai. Kishore Jaisa solid awaz to 1000 sal me ek bar paida hota hai. Kisi v singer k boote ke bahar ki cheej hai. Koi to muh me Supari rakh k gata h to koi nak se.
Rafi jaisa singer Lakhon saal meh Ek Baar paida hota hai
@@meetoo2395 Lol
किशोर बेशकीमती नगीना था, लेकिन हीरा अपनी कीमत नही जानता,लेकिन उसकी कद्र कीमत लोगो के दिल ❤️ में unlimited हैं थी रहेगी, कयामत तक जियो लोगो के दिलो में da ❤️
His voice had melody for romantic songs,
His voice had pain for sad songs...
His voice had fun for comedy songs... and yes this was different from all the other singers...none can do yodelling like he used to do...the legendary Kishore da
and his voice has ....... for classical song and his voice has ........... for qawalis his voice has......... for ghazal