I love this. I’ve spent so much time trying to make sense of the world around me and my place in it. I’ve been agnostic, pessimistic, self centered and selfish in my thought process for years. It’s far easier to just have faith. Like a suffocating heavy blanket being lifted from my heart. Faith sets the mind free, free to experience joy in each moment as it passes. Thank you for your content doc. ❤
Some might think that just having faith is a cop out. I suppose it’s easier to simply relinquish your critical faculties rather than take up the challenge to discover what existence means and your place in the cosmos. You don’t need Dr. Lisle to school you on this. His “science” is biased and distorted by an inflexible and crude precondition of having to believe the Bible as inerrant and the word of a supernatural entity that he cannot prove exists.
@@tonygarrett7214 Real killjoy, man, haha. With all due respect, you only stated your opinion about Lisle himself, and did not disprove anything he said. Which, from my point of view, seems like either a wasted opportunity, or a waste of time.
@@DedicatedGhost If you read my comment carefully, you’ll see that I have criticised the basic premise upon which he bases his arguments. Science does not assert any precondition relating to a religious belief in the pursuit of its endeavours. It poses its theories with the prospect of them necessarily being falsified. Lisle’s science is framed within the writings of the Bible and specifically the book of Genesis. His “scientific” approach is biased.
@@tonygarrett7214 Aren't you biased against the Bible? There is no such thing as "neutrality". Asserting that everything can be proven objectively through physics is objectively wrong. Can you prove to me without prior bias from experience that your memory is basically reliable? Or do you just assume that?
@@DedicatedGhost Your comment doesn’t make any sense. I think that, unfortunately, that you might be a candidate for the Dunning-Kruger effect. It is as as follows: “Dunning-Kruger Effect The Dunning-Kruger effect is a type of cognitive bias in which people believe that they are smarter and more capable than they really are. Essentially, low ability people do not possess the skills needed to recognize their own incompetence. The combination of poor self-awareness and low cognitive ability leads them to overestimate their own capabilities.”
Respect to Jason for his dedication to the word of God. I myself have studied the bible and have come to the conclusion that the earth in creation is a stationary flat plane with the sun moon and stars rotating above the earth. My goal is to take the bible literally and to take everything written there as truth without putting any of my perceived conclusions that I have been taught in school. Blessed are the meek for they will inherit the earth.
I have been in airplanes and looked out the window. The earth is a sphere. I have seen it with my own eyes. So has Dr Lisle. He designed the Parker Space Probe and remote piloted the mission. Dr Lisle has seen with his own eye that the earth is a sphere and he would not lie to you. He has other videos where he shows you how you can prove it to yourself. Watch the sunset in California and stand up and watch it set again. Then climb up the steps and watch it set again. You can also put a camera on a kite and see the sun set much later than you see it at ground level. Get the kits high enough and you can and you will see the earth is a sphere. A teen built a drone that took him up to the stratosphere where he passed out but the camera was still rolling and you can also see the earth is a sphere. This theory about the sun moving further away makes no sense as it disappears below the horizon and does not get smaller and smaller. You are misreading Gods word to think it laterally says the firmament is flat in any way. The Bible describes the earth as a sphere 4 different times.
Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today. The earth is not about 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". Gen. 2:4 “in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens” The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to? Creationism does not equal young Earth. There are many Old Earth creationists.
The problem with people like Aron Wrong, is that they aren’t bright enough to understand when they are refuted. For example, he originally identified as an atheist, yet his fictitious name is that of a god. It got worse when he came out and identified as a devil worshiper, because the devil does not exist, unless the Bible is true. If the Bible is true, then God exists, and Jesus is Lord. So you see, he unwittingly affirmed the truth of the Bible. Whoopsies! We shouldn’t be surprised though, because we all know they the critics are only suppressing the truth of the God we all know.
@@RedefineLiving Truth of the matter is Aron speaks the truth , he uses evidence which you hate because it contradicts your book of fairytales. You believe the earth is no more than 6000 years old and Dinosaurs existed with man. Yes you are so deluded that you actually believe this tripe, along with ridiculous stories like Mr Noah’s Ark . Walking on water , sticks turning to snakes. If your Mr Lisle would like a debate with Aron he is up for , but as he only preaches to his deluded flock and would be torn apart by Aron . As we have all the evidence you have zero. Faith is not Knowledge
@@RedefineLiving You say he is not bright , he would wipe the floor with you, and as usual with your sort because you have nothing so you lie and make up material to protect your book of fairytales. Watch Aron Ra u tube Zoology disproves the Ark . How’s your Zoology
@@paulhaynes3688 Truth can only be instantiated from a worldview that has a foundation of truth. Unfortunately, you have confused a conclusion based on a naturalistic interpretation of the data, with objective truth. Your comment is not only indefensible, it’s wildly emotional. I will show you. When you speak of possibility and impossibility, such as certain state of affairs in the Bible, you are going to need something ultimate within your metaphysic that can dictate all possibility and impossibility. So tell me, what is it from your worldview that dictates all possibility and impossibility in order for you to defend that there are certain things that are possible or impossible? Do you have something? Thanks bud, I’m here to help.
@@paulhaynes3688 Yeah, he’s not too bright. That why he gets loud and belligerent in debates, because he is lacking. It’s easy for him to shout in an ecco chamber, but not so easy to defend rhetoric against someone informed. If I’m wrong, go ahead and give me an argument instead of bickering. Better yet, repent and be reconciled to the God who loves you. Have a good day bud.
As usual, no substantive comment from you. Just a purely emotional denial of the God you know. We noticed you are obsessed with God, please turn to Him and repent.
Hardly. He uses observable evidence so anyone who actually watches the video can see he is not lying. You can not even find the lie you claim or you would have said what it was.
In the geology, geophysics and physics department of Munich University all professors think he is an idiot. Well, nobody said so crudely but it is quite apparent that his opinions is formed by blind faith, not critical science.
who cares what those academics or you think? There are plenty of academics just like Mr Lisle that agree with the truth told here. And there are many that left the lies of the evolution camp. When they set out to prove what they believed with an open mind Jobe Martin James Tour Walter Veight j warner Wallace to name just a few.
@@paulhaynes3688 so you have proof of the big bang? nothing exploding into everything? All evidence shows all explosions create disaster and destruction. So who believes in magic? The bible is vindicated by archeology. The red sea cc tossing has been found and artefacts such as gold chariot wheel now in an Arab museum. Many axles covered in coral and other things still on the sea bed. Noah's ark landing site is now a tourist site. The story of the famine in Egypt has been found inside the tomb of a Pharoah. Dinosaur bones found with man and mammal bones . Found by the Evolutionist FS Holmes you can read about it in his book. There isn't one bonafide fossil proving evolution. We have faith in the supernatural. We admit it. We also see you guys have the same kind of faith in your unproven theory. But you don't admit it. your aging process are totally flawed with too many assumptions. Many of your religion are so quick to belittle and criticize but just as your comment here you show or quote no evidence. Do you believe in love?
The section of this video on the development of mathematics is embarrassingly confused and simply wrong. The speaker attributes the origin of numbers to the mind of God. He, and all creationists are guilty of a major fallacy in their arguments. Namely positing God as an indisputable propositional given. Everything they say and write about their position on creationism (especially it’s spurious scientific basis) springs from that fallacy. Dr Lisle, did you not take a component course on the history and philosophy of science when undertaking your PhD? This video and the others you produce would seem to indicate a complete ignorance of the aforementioned field.
You said, "all creationists are guilty of a major fallacy in their arguments. Namely positing God as an indisputable propositional given." You really want to go there? Let's do a little (minor) substitution with your argument and then see how the shoe fits: "[A]ll atheist naturalists are guilty of a major fallacy in their arguments. Namely positing no God, only mindless, purposeless nature as an indisputable propositional given." And why would that be? Because as many have openly stated, the alternative is abhorrent to them. And I'll finish your thought correctly: "Everything they say and write about their position on naturalistic evolution springs from that fallacy."
Sorry bud, but unless you have somehow disproven God, or have an argument for some neutral ground upon which the theist adds God, you are just begging the question yourself. Do you not understand what a worldview is?
@@RedefineLiving I’ll answer your comment in order of the points that you have raised. With regard to the assertion that “You (I) have somehow disproven God,” I do not intend to rehearse the extensive literature devoted to disproving the existence of a deity. Here are a few quite recent examples of that exercise, within the following texts: God’s GraveDiggers - Why No Deity Exists by Raymond D Bradley; Why There Is No God by Armin Navabi (This is an excellent text and very accessible to the confused layman on the subject. I commend it to you). Doubt - A History by Jennifer Michael Hecht. All of the aforementioned works form a contemporary refutation of the existence of God. There is, of course, a well established body of literature on the subject and I suggest you read some of it with an open mind. You might then be more tolerant of those with whom you disagree on the subject. I am not begging the question at all, I made two connected points in my comment and you seem not to have realised this. Dr Lisle blithely asserts that the origin of numbers is attributable to God. This is patent nonsense as he embraces the questionable assumption that a god is responsible for the existence of numbers in mathematics. I challenged that as the assumption is based on what i believe to be his and others’ belief that the notion of God is an indisputable propositional given. It is not. I have not begged the question and it is Lisle who has done this with ease and confidence. Endeavours to graft science onto the Creationist quest has failed and Dr Lisle, although a talented astrophysicist, should really try to understand the immense contradiction in his work.
@@tonygarrett7214 It does not follow that because you are incredulous, and/or skeptic, that there is no God. It does not follow that because cite a conformation bias, arbitrarily appeal to those who share the same mental state, that therefore there is no God. I want to know objectively how there is no God. If there is a God, then all things derive from the mind of God. Because you argue that all things do not derive from the mind of God, you need to objectively disprove God in order for your point to be true. I’m waiting… Now let’s look at the silly implications of your argument. The number two, and all numbers, are abstract. Abstracts exist in a mind. Your position would demand that if all humans on earth were removed, then, the number two would no longer exist. What a silly notion! On the other hand, it’s all humans were removed from the earth, the number two would still exist, if it derives from the mind of God. Now way position is more logical?
@@RedefineLiving “Silly implications of your (my) argument.” How condescending. You really don’t get the point of my arguments. It was not an arbitrary appeal to others who share my viewpoint. I cited those authors as they have given careful and lengthy consideration of the position that I take on the matter. You need to read their work. The comments section of a TH-cam video does not lend itself to a lengthy exposition on the topic. You know that. Anyway, it is you and other believers who need to produce the extraordinary evidence to support the extraordinary claim for the existence of God (beyond citing the Bible). Your recent response is riddled with reference to a god; his mind; his implicit and actual status. Your example of the abstract status of the number two ends by citing the need for the existence of God from which it derives. That brings me back to my original point: that you and believers embrace - that God is introduced into your argument as an indisputable propositional given. You can prove me wrong on his/her existence if you can prove it. Have you ever heard of the Dunning-Kruger Effect? I think you might be subject to that classification in terms of this discussion.
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Thank you Dr. Lisle for sharing your knowledge for the glory of God.
l really love how Jason explains all this. Thank You Lord that we have people speaking about Your creation. :)
I love this. I’ve spent so much time trying to make sense of the world around me and my place in it. I’ve been agnostic, pessimistic, self centered and selfish in my thought process for years. It’s far easier to just have faith. Like a suffocating heavy blanket being lifted from my heart. Faith sets the mind free, free to experience joy in each moment as it passes. Thank you for your content doc. ❤
Some might think that just having faith is a cop out. I suppose it’s easier to simply relinquish your critical faculties rather than take up the challenge to discover what existence means and your place in the cosmos. You don’t need Dr. Lisle to school you on this. His “science” is biased and distorted by an inflexible and crude precondition of having to believe the Bible as inerrant and the word of a supernatural entity that he cannot prove exists.
@@tonygarrett7214 Real killjoy, man, haha. With all due respect, you only stated your opinion about Lisle himself, and did not disprove anything he said. Which, from my point of view, seems like either a wasted opportunity, or a waste of time.
@@DedicatedGhost
If you read my comment carefully, you’ll see that I have criticised the basic premise upon which he bases his arguments. Science does not assert any precondition relating to a religious belief in the pursuit of its endeavours. It poses its theories with the prospect of them necessarily being falsified. Lisle’s science is framed within the writings of the Bible and specifically the book of Genesis. His “scientific” approach is biased.
@@tonygarrett7214 Aren't you biased against the Bible? There is no such thing as "neutrality". Asserting that everything can be proven objectively through physics is objectively wrong. Can you prove to me without prior bias from experience that your memory is basically reliable? Or do you just assume that?
@@DedicatedGhost
Your comment doesn’t make any sense. I think that, unfortunately, that you might be a candidate for the Dunning-Kruger effect. It is as as follows: “Dunning-Kruger Effect
The Dunning-Kruger effect is a type of cognitive bias in which people believe that they are smarter and more capable than they really are. Essentially, low ability people do not possess the skills needed to recognize their own incompetence. The combination of poor self-awareness and low cognitive ability leads them to overestimate their own capabilities.”
Fitting Alienware laptop! I love this guy. Absolutely awesome content !!
I love it. Out of all those places God chose this planet for us and chose to also walk on the earth.
Thank you so much for giving me the information I need to help teach my grandkids about our God's creation!!!
Respect to Jason for his dedication to the word of God. I myself have studied the bible and have come to the conclusion that the earth in creation is a stationary flat plane with the sun moon and stars rotating above the earth. My goal is to take the bible literally and to take everything written there as truth without putting any of my perceived conclusions that I have been taught in school. Blessed are the meek for they will inherit the earth.
Stand on a beach in California and watch the sun go down.
I have been in airplanes and looked out the window. The earth is a sphere. I have seen it with my own eyes. So has Dr Lisle. He designed the Parker Space Probe and remote piloted the mission. Dr Lisle has seen with his own eye that the earth is a sphere and he would not lie to you. He has other videos where he shows you how you can prove it to yourself. Watch the sunset in California and stand up and watch it set again. Then climb up the steps and watch it set again. You can also put a camera on a kite and see the sun set much later than you see it at ground level. Get the kits high enough and you can and you will see the earth is a sphere.
A teen built a drone that took him up to the stratosphere where he passed out but the camera was still rolling and you can also see the earth is a sphere. This theory about the sun moving further away makes no sense as it disappears below the horizon and does not get smaller and smaller. You are misreading Gods word to think it laterally says the firmament is flat in any way. The Bible describes the earth as a sphere 4 different times.
Nice! Thanks for posting. Very informative.
You gotta love how secular science curates and filters out countering evidence to their pet theories!
Great!
Great Class!!! Loved the kids in the background!!!
As bill and ted would say ....Excellent 🪕🪕🪕
Great video. I listen while I drive, so a little editing would be nice. There’s 10 minutes of dead space between talks.
I wonder if there is a way to do a 3 dimensional plot of the Mandelbrot set?
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What is the name of the song at the beginning of the video??
OK. I totally enjoyed this and agreed with the biblical facts, but...seriously, you called the Bard "allegedly" the greatest English playwriter.
Arguments have been made that Shakespeare's works were actually written by Francis Bacon.
@@detached I have read the heretical accusations and found them incredible.
@@detached is anything better than Bacon?
I wish Ipetus would be called yin Yang ☯️ instead, because it is black and white
Comment expliquer l analemm de mars et du soleil ?paix en christ 🔥💗🔥
Fossils 2:03
Venus: does 'thick' atmosphere mean dense? 100 times the density of Earth?
100 times more dens than the earths atmosphere. It is like swimming in soup.
Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today.
The earth is not about 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is:
Sunrise to sunset
Sunset to next sunset
Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ).
We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast.
Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains".
Gen. 2:4 “in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens”
The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours.
Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to?
Creationism does not equal young Earth. There are many Old Earth creationists.
Put yourself up against AronRa with debate think you would run a mile
The problem with people like Aron Wrong, is that they aren’t bright enough to understand when they are refuted. For example, he originally identified as an atheist, yet his fictitious name is that of a god. It got worse when he came out and identified as a devil worshiper, because the devil does not exist, unless the Bible is true. If the Bible is true, then God exists, and Jesus is Lord. So you see, he unwittingly affirmed the truth of the Bible. Whoopsies! We shouldn’t be surprised though, because we all know they the critics are only suppressing the truth of the God we all know.
@@RedefineLiving Truth of the matter is Aron speaks the truth , he uses evidence which you hate because it contradicts your book of fairytales. You believe the earth is no more than 6000 years old and Dinosaurs existed with man. Yes you are so deluded that you actually believe this tripe, along with ridiculous stories like Mr Noah’s Ark . Walking on water , sticks turning to snakes. If your Mr Lisle would like a debate with Aron he is up for , but as he only preaches to his deluded flock and would be torn apart by Aron . As we have all the evidence you have zero. Faith is not Knowledge
@@RedefineLiving You say he is not bright , he would wipe the floor with you, and as usual with your sort because you have nothing so you lie and make up material to protect your book of fairytales. Watch Aron Ra u tube Zoology disproves the Ark . How’s your Zoology
@@paulhaynes3688 Truth can only be instantiated from a worldview that has a foundation of truth. Unfortunately, you have confused a conclusion based on a naturalistic interpretation of the data, with objective truth. Your comment is not only indefensible, it’s wildly emotional. I will show you. When you speak of possibility and impossibility, such as certain state of affairs in the Bible, you are going to need something ultimate within your metaphysic that can dictate all possibility and impossibility. So tell me, what is it from your worldview that dictates all possibility and impossibility in order for you to defend that there are certain things that are possible or impossible? Do you have something? Thanks bud, I’m here to help.
@@paulhaynes3688 Yeah, he’s not too bright. That why he gets loud and belligerent in debates, because he is lacking. It’s easy for him to shout in an ecco chamber, but not so easy to defend rhetoric against someone informed. If I’m wrong, go ahead and give me an argument instead of bickering. Better yet, repent and be reconciled to the God who loves you. Have a good day bud.
Dr liar be lying as usual
As usual, no substantive comment from you. Just a purely emotional denial of the God you know. We noticed you are obsessed with God, please turn to Him and repent.
Hardly. He uses observable evidence so anyone who actually watches the video can see he is not lying. You can not even find the lie you claim or you would have said what it was.
@@paulmerritt2484 he lies constantly
Love to know what academics think of Mr Lisle , he only talks to his deluded flock apparently
In the geology, geophysics and physics department of Munich University all professors think he is an idiot. Well, nobody said so crudely but it is quite apparent that his opinions is formed by blind faith, not critical science.
@@norbertjendruschj9121 Exactly well put, or he is a con man like a certain Mr Kent Hovind
who cares what those academics or you think? There are plenty of academics just like Mr Lisle that agree with the truth told here. And there are many that left the lies of the evolution camp. When they set out to prove what they believed with an open mind Jobe Martin James Tour Walter Veight j warner Wallace to name just a few.
@@ianmonk6211 Totally deluded to the truth , brainwashed, only believe magic with zero proof
@@paulhaynes3688 so you have proof of the big bang? nothing exploding into everything? All evidence shows all explosions create disaster and destruction. So who believes in magic? The bible is vindicated by archeology. The red sea cc tossing has been found and artefacts such as gold chariot wheel now in an Arab museum. Many axles covered in coral and other things still on the sea bed. Noah's ark landing site is now a tourist site. The story of the famine in Egypt has been found inside the tomb of a Pharoah. Dinosaur bones found with man and mammal bones . Found by the Evolutionist FS Holmes you can read about it in his book. There isn't one bonafide fossil proving evolution. We have faith in the supernatural. We admit it. We also see you guys have the same kind of faith in your unproven theory. But you don't admit it. your aging process are totally flawed with too many assumptions. Many of your religion are so quick to belittle and criticize but just as your comment here you show or quote no evidence. Do you believe in love?
The section of this video on the development of mathematics is embarrassingly confused and simply wrong. The speaker attributes the origin of numbers to the mind of God. He, and all creationists are guilty of a major fallacy in their arguments. Namely positing God as an indisputable propositional given. Everything they say and write about their position on creationism (especially it’s spurious scientific basis) springs from that fallacy. Dr Lisle, did you not take a component course on the history and philosophy of science when undertaking your PhD? This video and the others you produce would seem to indicate a complete ignorance of the aforementioned field.
You said, "all creationists are guilty of a major fallacy in their arguments. Namely positing God as an indisputable propositional given."
You really want to go there?
Let's do a little (minor) substitution with your argument and then see how the shoe fits: "[A]ll atheist naturalists are guilty of a major fallacy in their arguments. Namely positing no God, only mindless, purposeless nature as an indisputable propositional given." And why would that be? Because as many have openly stated, the alternative is abhorrent to them. And I'll finish your thought correctly: "Everything they say and write about their position on naturalistic evolution springs from that fallacy."
Sorry bud, but unless you have somehow disproven God, or have an argument for some neutral ground upon which the theist adds God, you are just begging the question yourself. Do you not understand what a worldview is?
@@RedefineLiving
I’ll answer your comment in order of the points that you have raised. With regard to the assertion that “You (I) have somehow disproven God,” I do not intend to rehearse the extensive literature devoted to disproving the existence of a deity. Here are a few quite recent examples of that exercise, within the following texts: God’s GraveDiggers - Why No Deity Exists by Raymond D Bradley; Why There Is No God by Armin Navabi (This is an excellent text and very accessible to the confused layman on the subject. I commend it to you). Doubt - A History by Jennifer Michael Hecht. All of the aforementioned works form a contemporary refutation of the existence of God. There is, of course, a well established body of literature on the subject and I suggest you read some of it with an open mind. You might then be more tolerant of those with whom you disagree on the subject.
I am not begging the question at all, I made two connected points in my comment and you seem not to have realised this. Dr Lisle blithely asserts that the origin of numbers is attributable to God. This is patent nonsense as he embraces the questionable assumption that a god is responsible for the existence of numbers in mathematics. I challenged that as the assumption is based on what i believe to be his and others’ belief that the notion of God is an indisputable propositional given. It is not. I have not begged the question and it is Lisle who has done this with ease and confidence. Endeavours to graft science onto the Creationist quest has failed and Dr Lisle, although a talented astrophysicist, should really try to understand the immense contradiction in his work.
@@tonygarrett7214 It does not follow that because you are incredulous, and/or skeptic, that there is no God. It does not follow that because cite a conformation bias, arbitrarily appeal to those who share the same mental state, that therefore there is no God. I want to know objectively how there is no God. If there is a God, then all things derive from the mind of God. Because you argue that all things do not derive from the mind of God, you need to objectively disprove God in order for your point to be true. I’m waiting…
Now let’s look at the silly implications of your argument. The number two, and all numbers, are abstract. Abstracts exist in a mind. Your position would demand that if all humans on earth were removed, then, the number two would no longer exist. What a silly notion! On the other hand, it’s all humans were removed from the earth, the number two would still exist, if it derives from the mind of God. Now way position is more logical?
@@RedefineLiving
“Silly implications of your (my) argument.” How condescending. You really don’t get the point of my arguments. It was not an arbitrary appeal to others who share my viewpoint. I cited those authors as they have given careful and lengthy consideration of the position that I take on the matter. You need to read their work. The comments section of a TH-cam video does not lend itself to a lengthy exposition on the topic. You know that. Anyway, it is you and other believers who need to produce the extraordinary evidence to support the extraordinary claim for the existence of God (beyond citing the Bible). Your recent response is riddled with reference to a god; his mind; his implicit and actual status. Your example of the abstract status of the number two ends by citing the need for the existence of God from which it derives. That brings me back to my original point: that you and believers embrace - that God is introduced into your argument as an indisputable propositional given. You can prove me wrong on his/her existence if you can prove it. Have you ever heard of the Dunning-Kruger Effect? I think you might be subject to that classification in terms of this discussion.