Why Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones is ACTUALLY the Best Fire Emblem - BeyondPolygons

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  • The last of the GBA Fire Emblem games. A game that was once considered the best in the series, how does it compare to the rest of the Fire Emblem franchise?
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    -Editor's Notes-
    Hey y'all, what brings you to the bottom of the description? Thank you for bothering to read this at all!
    Editing this was weird. In ways, I'm not happy about how long it is. Maybe I could have trimmed the fat, but I wanted to set both my last video (On Fire Emblem 7) and this video, as the sort of basis of my Fire Emblem reviews.
    I think 7 is just the quintessential example of a Fire Emblem game, playing each level one by one, and having to figure out how to train and help raise units while completing the chapter.
    Sacred Stones is more about building super units, maybe reading the support conversations, and in the end, having a team that you've built to be strong and work together. I've beaten both 7 and Sacred Stones multiple times each, and I love both of them but for different reasons. I hope I was able to convey this, but we'll find out in the comments!
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  • @Joseph-li3df
    @Joseph-li3df 5 ปีที่แล้ว +259

    What's so weird to me is that *no one* can agree on what the best FE game is. It just goes to show that we all play this series for different reasons and that all the games have their own strengths and weaknesses!

    • @settingittowumbo1953
      @settingittowumbo1953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Very well said man

    • @Katie-hb8iq
      @Katie-hb8iq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      To be honest, while I can believe that of most games of the franchise, I have a hard-time believing a fan of this series could actually think Fates is the best. That game is such a mess.

    • @konstantinkunz2256
      @konstantinkunz2256 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So far for me the ranking is
      TH
      SoV
      Awakening
      Warriors
      Fates
      Sacred Stones
      Rest of them I have not played so far because they are still extrem expensive and they have neither free movement nor Casual mode to avoid the way overrated Permadeath.

    • @unluckystaravia2352
      @unluckystaravia2352 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@konstantinkunz2256 The DS Fire emblem games also have ways to prevent perma death so that's a recommendation if perma death is intimidating, Shadow Dragon on DS gives you replacement units if your army ever runs thin so you can't ever get into a completely unwinnable state, and New Mystery of the Emblem introduces Casual Mode to avoid perma death altogether
      Downside Shadow Dragon is expensive and New Mystery never came out in the west, the best way to play both games would be to emulate them, New Mystery has an English fan translation so you can play as if it did come to the west as well and it is quite simple to set up if you have a PC

    • @theawesomemepreussen
      @theawesomemepreussen ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Katie-hb8iq I like Fates. But sacred stones is just special to me and I think Awakening's cutscenes were done better than Fates, even if they run on same engine etc.

  • @fakesmile172
    @fakesmile172 5 ปีที่แล้ว +375

    Eirika's route fleshes out Cormag and Joshua, while Ephraim's route fleshes out Lyon.
    I wouldn't suggest playing FE5 blind...but you can if you want to... Just remember that the game never gives you money. EVER. The only way to get money is to sell stuff. I call it Poverty Emblem.

    • @Juan-zs6jt
      @Juan-zs6jt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Not like you need to buy anything. Just keys and stamina drinks.

    • @fakesmile172
      @fakesmile172 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@Juan-zs6jt
      Uuuuhhh wind tomes and knight proofs are useful.

    • @Juan-zs6jt
      @Juan-zs6jt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@fakesmile172 Knight Proofs are sold way too late and you can do with the stolen ones. Wind tomes are not as important as keys and drinks.

    • @fakesmile172
      @fakesmile172 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Juan-zs6jt
      I respectfully disagree. Keys aren't that important since you'll probably bring a thief anyway. Stamina drinks aren't necessary, but I don't think you'll ever need more than 3 total. Plus, chapter 14x will get you 6 of them if you can manage that. Wind tomes are too good to pass up. Tomes are scarcer than physical weapons, and I'd rather buy wind than thunder. Knight proofs are less useful the better a player you are, but training prepromotes is still difficult due to low exp gain for a majority of the game.
      This is based on my personal experience, me being an inexperienced player.

    • @Juan-zs6jt
      @Juan-zs6jt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@fakesmile172 Here is the problem with thieves. You have only 2 (Lifis and Perne) and it is pretty tedious and ineffective dragging them around to open every door, and Thracia 776 is very door heavy. Door keys can be given to any character, and they can help you get done with a map much quicker and without any wasted turns or units who don't contribute that much like Lifis. Thieves are very paradoxical, they are useful but they are useless at the same time. As for Wind there isn't a high demand for those in your army. The only relevant characters who can use them are Asbel and Sara. Sara barely fights and Asbel can do with just Graphcalibur for bosskills and Fire/Thunder for generics. Homer isn't very optimal and Linoan has Nosferatu. You can buy them if you want or if you want to do an obscure strat like double Blizzard in the final map with Asbel and Ced, but are otherwise not as vital as buying keys to breeze through maps and drinks to abuse warpbots for longer.

  • @insomniacsnorlax
    @insomniacsnorlax 5 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    1. Summoner is a fine choice for Ewan.
    2. I disagree on the story. There are great moments for some characters, (Joshua, Cormag, Myrrh) the villains are compelling (Valter, Caellach, Selena) and Lyon's corruption is tragic.

    • @thelegacyofgaming2928
      @thelegacyofgaming2928 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Caellech the best villain aside from god Lyon

    • @crown9413
      @crown9413 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I can’t stand Erika’s stupidity handing Lyon the Maguffin. Completely destroyed my view of her.

    • @corentinc.948
      @corentinc.948 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crown9413 I liked her stupidity. I saw it as a great joke of how stupid royals can be..

    • @GeorgisTrying
      @GeorgisTrying 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The story is weak, but some character writing and support conversations are good

    • @skeletonwar4445
      @skeletonwar4445 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@crown9413 I'll never get how people think it's "stupid." Like, this is very much exactly the choice her character would let her make every time.

  • @ZombieMonkey7
    @ZombieMonkey7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    No mention of Joshua
    FeelsUnluckyMan

  • @AlphaDialga7
    @AlphaDialga7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +229

    >Lyon is a cliche character
    *heavy breathing*

    • @BlackDragon41sbm
      @BlackDragon41sbm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Couldn't agree more. I get riled up when people throw dirt on my favorite FE character.

    • @GrayWilks
      @GrayWilks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      *internal screaming with the fury of a thousand demon kings*

    • @BardockSkywalker
      @BardockSkywalker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Just Because He's *"CLICHÊ"* That Doesn't Automaticly Make It Bad, In Fact, Lyon, Along With The Black Knight & King Zephiel, Is Among As The Best Set Of Main Antagonists In The Series, Seriously, These 3 R Amazing

    • @gnarlyloco2229
      @gnarlyloco2229 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lyon am becoming even because you didn’t let me poke Eirika ephriam.. you pay both will pay....

    • @jaimesanchez6390
      @jaimesanchez6390 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bardock SkyWalker facts, they’re literally my top 3 and Edelgard

  • @SolidSnake684
    @SolidSnake684 5 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Also the art is absolutely fantastic! Every character looks super cool and the UI is classy

    • @arman_llc624
      @arman_llc624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      SolidSnake684 I would argue that the kaga games have better art styles, for example fe 5 looks amazing for a snes game

    • @jasperlufkin
      @jasperlufkin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arman_llc624 Definitely.

  • @cloudmangalm03
    @cloudmangalm03 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    My favorite Fire Emblem. God, I mean, it has its faults, but it was my first... Well, the first one I finished, becuase I played FE6 first, but I found the characters in 8 more likeable, visually and as their characterization. I really have a strong bias for this one.
    Eirika is just a piece of wholesome, despite being a little too naive and dumb, but hey, she didn't invade Hoshido to save Hoshido, and her smile is worth protecting. Ephraim is badass [Ephraim for Smash, indeed], and, well, Lyon as a villain makes sense, once you get to analyze him. And it has Forde. He may be crappy, stat-wise, but he is a fun fella. And god. The music. If they ever remake Sacred Stones with the level of mastery of Echoes compositions, it'll be the day when my ears will hear heaven.

  • @playboydojo
    @playboydojo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    Let's be honest: L'Arachel should've been the main lord, anyway.

    • @gembocobo9484
      @gembocobo9484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      or maybe be the hector mode equivalent only she only has staves before promoting so it is extra hard for her

    • @obamafriedchicken2903
      @obamafriedchicken2903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Man i wished Fado had a king class.

    • @kafkeinated
      @kafkeinated 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Honestly all the four remaining from the seven lords of this game can get their own route (Tana being an intense training bullshit, Innes having an espionage filled assassination route, Joshua being the badass that he is, and L' Arachel's bizzard Adventure) (also Lyon alternative universe stuff)

    • @crocsy1439
      @crocsy1439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      "Nice girl who doesn't even know what a ballista is has to go on a generic quest (like, what had Eirika achieved before she reunited with her brother? Nothing!) with her steroid-infused boring retainer wasting your time until her ADHD brother comes in"
      When we could have had
      *"Complitely unhinged mad princess going apeshit trying to avenge her dead parents purging the world from monsters by hitting them with her staff, joined by a friendly cool dwarf man and a sly merchant that doesn't even wanna be there in the first place"*

    • @imnotnarcian
      @imnotnarcian ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gembocobo9484 that would be a cool concept. The same way hector mode and lyn mode change the recruitment order she could have dozla and Rennach join first instead of at the end of the game. Dozla acting as a jaigen perhaps

  • @ann_teasocial
    @ann_teasocial ปีที่แล้ว +12

    For as cliched as a villain Lyon may sound on paper, I think he’s arguably one of the best written Fire Emblem villains that’s out there. I much prefer his character arc in Ephraim’s route since it plays on his personality a lot better than Eirika’s. He is every bit one of those stereotypical tragic villains but he’s done so well that that fact can be put aside.
    The setup from the flashbacks, learning about his past and grasping his character is what makes his final battle all the more painful I feel. Especially since it plays on his low self confidence and insecurities. A prince driven to madness by his own self deprecation. Formotiis acts as a catalyst for his decisions and thought process, amplifying it like a parasite. What was once admiration for Ephraim turns to jealousy, and Lyon is able to use what merits HE has to rile up Ephraim.
    I really just love how his character plays out, his fall from grace if you will. Whilst people may not like the Sacred Stones story, I think a lot of us agree that Lyon is a well written and thought out character. Also his final battle music is amazing.

  • @vayoofficial
    @vayoofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    “Don’t make ewan a summoner” WHAT

  • @philippuente4322
    @philippuente4322 5 ปีที่แล้ว +286

    Sacred Stones did too many things right and became too easy.

    • @DevaPein
      @DevaPein 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      you're an idiot and the fact anyone liked this just proves how unintelligent they are cause they clearly did not think this through when reading it as you did not when posting it. Is Dark souls hard because it did everything wrong? Is mushihimesama futari black label god mode hard because it did everything wrong? And on easier difficulties it did everything right?
      This is a completely stupid mind state you have and it makes no sense.
      If its sarcasm. You suck at it, because its blatantly not clear in a text based communications where I can not hear you emote your sentence in a way that clearly reflects sarcasm.
      Sacred stones did nothing itself wrong but does have problems. the developers think the western audience is just ignorantly stupid.. Don't blame a piece of plastic for the developers stupid beliefs on the western market.

    • @dummythin5378
      @dummythin5378 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      @@DevaPein Holy shit I've never seen so much entitlement in my life, you wrote so much damn stuff about a single statement.

    • @DevaPein
      @DevaPein 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Magma Overload entitlement to what? My thoughts and opinions? So what? Lol cry about it.
      I argued my point and he has every ability to argue his. Ill consider them n possibly agree or disagree.
      The entitlement is probably just my white privelage tho honestly lmao jk

    • @dummythin5378
      @dummythin5378 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@DevaPein Entitlement was just something I used because I didn't know how to describe your new level of stupidity

    • @DevaPein
      @DevaPein 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Magma Overload then argue how it is. I am not unreasonalble. Keep tellin me with no factual or reasonable basis n ill continue to think you are the moron who can not formulate a counter argument.
      So entitlement was a dumb choice tho lol

  • @akechispancakeprincess8608
    @akechispancakeprincess8608 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Yes! Someone who agrees with me that Ephraim should be in Smash!

  • @koopasquirtle8343
    @koopasquirtle8343 5 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    "Don't turn Ewan into a summoner"Excuse me w h a t

    • @kentknightofcaelin4537
      @kentknightofcaelin4537 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Ewan is just so bad but Summoner is honestly the second-best or even the best choice for him

    • @thelegacyofgaming2928
      @thelegacyofgaming2928 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Ewan Druid is better

    • @redjackal7823
      @redjackal7823 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      froschkoenig4 What? Is it because he has lower stats or you tell me.

    • @uncreativerandomness1239
      @uncreativerandomness1239 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@redjackal7823 He needs heavy grinding and comes at a point in the game when the player most likely already has a working army. Sacred Stones being so easy makes training him even less worth it. Training him isn't efficient in the slightest because it just puts the game at a halt to train one more unit that won't be necessary. But he's fun to use as a Mage Knight or Summoner.

    • @arman_llc624
      @arman_llc624 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Legacy of Gaming lol nah, you must be joking

  • @shadedhydra6674
    @shadedhydra6674 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I still really like Sacred Stones' story better than other games though I don't like how the game makes Ephraim top dog throughout most of the story. At least the other lords were more engaging seeing them develop but with him he's basically the same as he started except now he's going to be king.

  • @kylefreeburg9353
    @kylefreeburg9353 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Y'know what's weird? The branching classes and trainees are my favorite parts of SS, but I've only ever used Ross as a berzerker cause he's so OP as one

  • @innerdemons2108
    @innerdemons2108 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Path of Rad and Radiant dawn are my favs but SS is definitely a close second.

    • @TheRollingStone11
      @TheRollingStone11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      SS is my number one(nostalgia fuel), but PoR is absolutely amazing. Love that game.

    • @rice6497
      @rice6497 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRollingStone11 SS number one for me. PoR sec

    • @palantiri6590
      @palantiri6590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From Binding Blade to Path of Radiance is Fire Emblem’s golden age.

  • @ThePhrozenpheonix
    @ThePhrozenpheonix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    sacred stones WAS my fav, until i got echoes, and lost my copy of awakening, so i played echoes front to back 8 times, and hey its my favorite now for the same reasons sacred stones was my fav before

    • @TotallyCluelessGamer
      @TotallyCluelessGamer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That tracks really well, in a lot of ways Sacred Stones is an updated and improved version of Gaiden. Below is a list of a few things that Sacred Stones does that are also in Gaiden/Echoes.
      Monster enemies, multiple protagonists fulfilling different objectives and getting different allies, skirmishes, technically it even introduced both trainee units and branching promotions with the same set of characters, even the concept of dungeons you play through as a series of battles with the Shrines.

  • @joserachi96
    @joserachi96 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    #EphraimForSmash

  • @buttqueef9900
    @buttqueef9900 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    These videos make me wanna play all of them. It would be great to see Sacred Stones get a badass rework like Echoes.

  • @mathewo.6501
    @mathewo.6501 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Recruits=pre promotes *claps*

  • @felipecabrera5317
    @felipecabrera5317 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    A video about Thracia 776 would be good

  • @pixeldoom9298
    @pixeldoom9298 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Actually if I'm not wrong Ghast's favorite FE unit is Duessel from this game lmao
    He really needs to do a support science on him

    • @pixeldoom9298
      @pixeldoom9298 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He talks about it here
      th-cam.com/video/F_mCS3FBd7s/w-d-xo.html

    • @DarkGreenFire
      @DarkGreenFire 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Its Gerik, that's why he Gerik is the only SS Support Science. But he does love Duessel

  • @lpfan4491
    @lpfan4491 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    >fe8 has a forgettable story
    *growns of increasing discomfort*

    • @arman_llc624
      @arman_llc624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LPFan compared to other fe’s it does but its not bad

  • @trollpiggy6963
    @trollpiggy6963 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'm pretty sure Ghast also covered two other Sacred Stones character, Forde (One of Ephraim's knights) and Lyon (the main villain), in Support Science. I do still agree with your point about the game being piss easy though, being able to grind messes up the progression but it's far too tempting not to. Also Seth breaks everything at base level.

  • @MakoLion09
    @MakoLion09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    SS was my first FE and I've played every game since. I still remember those days, staying up way past my bed time playing it. My playthrough was essentially Colm dodge tanking and criting or procing silencer on everything. I have loved thief/rouge characters since Locke in FF6 so when I met Colm I knew what I had to do... So I gave him literally every stat booster and more kills than anyone else and he ended up hard carrying me the entire game. I'm probably remembering this wrong but I think I remember my Assassin Colm procing a Silencer on the final boss. Part of me is saying "No that didn't happen because the final boss should be immune to the instant death skill" but the other part remembers the start up animation for Silencer, the purple flashes, and me literally jumping with joy because I beat the game.

  • @nathanm5533
    @nathanm5533 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    "Plucky prepromote units"

    • @neog8029
      @neog8029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Ah, yes, Ross, Amelia, and Ewan. My favorite prepromotes.

    • @nathanm5533
      @nathanm5533 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@neog8029 they carry the game.

    • @neog8029
      @neog8029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@nathanm5533 More OP at base than Seth.

    • @nathanm5533
      @nathanm5533 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@neog8029 He StEaLs ExP fRoM gOoD uNiTs.

    • @NotRealAkira
      @NotRealAkira 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "Overall I *feel* safer using Amelia"
      -That one guy in Mekkah's debate video who didn't bring anything to the table

  • @funnyvalentine2901
    @funnyvalentine2901 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If the Sacred Stones ever get a remake I'll name my first daughter Eirika

  • @rayandnoah8769
    @rayandnoah8769 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nintendo switch remake of sacred stones or something similar would be so amazing. Ephraim for smash would be also be amazing. I feel like sacred stones was an excellent step for the series and offered some great gameplay and even chapters and could use a revamp of story of the game on the same continent ! Ephraim could really be a big franchise character given his unique use of lance and potential adaptation of him into Smash and further developing his and Erika’s story in a switch remake 👏

  • @mcgelie4528
    @mcgelie4528 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man. I know you're not doing youtube right now but I rewatched this tonight. You are knowledge and have hilarious delivery. If you ever come back, I'm here for it 100%. Hope you are doing better.

  • @MogofWar
    @MogofWar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One thing lost in the fog of unspecific world building, is it's strongly implied that the reason most nations did not live in fear of the Grado Empire is in the name itself. Grado was founded by the hero Grado, and the other nations by his henchmen... Renais, Frelia, Rausten, Jehhana, these nations were all vassals of Grado to start with. Grado's invasions of the other nations were not driven by standard desires for conquest, but by a combination of darker factors. The realpolitik of the other nations not actually being under Grado's control corresponding to a cultural distance growing between the nations, gives the Gradoi* a rather nasty chip on their shoulders which sees most of them way too eager to exterminate the Renaites* once the order is given. Then the desire to undo the power of the sacred stones necessitates invading the other nations to get to their stones.
    *Yeah! I made up demonyms for the nations of Magvel(Willing to bet a C-note that when an official pronunciation comes out it'll be "Mag-well") because, aside from Frelia with the Frelians, they literally never Gave us any. So I just found myself saying Gradoi for people from Grado. Renaites for Renais, Jehennites or Jehennese for Jehenna, Raustenese for Rausten, Carcinoi for Carcino.

  • @halkon4412
    @halkon4412 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Summoner is one of the best classes in the game. Free exp every turn, free meat shield that enemies target with priority. Don't know why some people think it's bad.

  • @saraw7338
    @saraw7338 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Special place in my heart for sure. Sacred Stones was my introduction to the series when I was in Junior High. I'll go back and play that game forever ❤

  • @DavidLopez-qw1eo
    @DavidLopez-qw1eo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was my first fire emblem game and tbh I love it ! Of course nostalgia is playing a part on that but like I said this introduced me to this awesome series
    So yeah I would love a second game in Magvel
    And Ephraim for Smash!!

    • @Synathidy
      @Synathidy ปีที่แล้ว

      And Smash for trash. If you actually have standards regarding fighting games.

  • @ng-lr4nl
    @ng-lr4nl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My first fire emblem ever. Remember replaying this trying to do perfect runs even if it takes me fuckton of tries

  • @jasminesidney8174
    @jasminesidney8174 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    path of radiance next! that one's my favorite!

  • @marcgomez8391
    @marcgomez8391 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How am I only finding out about this channel now? Amazing video, immediate subscribe and I'm gonna start binging the channel's videos.

  • @raikuansumisu6428
    @raikuansumisu6428 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sacred stones was my fave when I was a kid. Part of me forgets the ending, the characters were great in my opinion, and the animations for crits were fantastic, but HOLY SHT! Im just now putting two and two 2gether to realize...Ephraim WAS the only lord with a spear...and they should've put him on smash.

  • @dejism
    @dejism 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sacred stones was my first, so it will always have a place in my heart near the top of the list. I still need to get around to playing the others, but emulations are pretty tricky to deal with, and I can't even entertain the idea of buying them.

  • @specktor4568
    @specktor4568 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    what are the extra classes for the recruits? I can't find anything on google or youtube about it.

  • @RaginDragn24
    @RaginDragn24 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was my first fire emblem game and my first game boy advanced game. This is one of the few games I beat when I was really young. So this game has a special place in my heart

  • @fogblades6811
    @fogblades6811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can't say that the Characters don't have "Character". Gilliam is an example, and I personally think that he his one of, if not, the best character for a knight in the series.

  • @7Heavensmile
    @7Heavensmile 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subscribing and notifications on, I really love your way of presenting these videos, I can't wait to see your rising even more, I am sure you'll be skyrocketing in no time with subs and other great content!

  • @Rawr1752
    @Rawr1752 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I genuinely enjoy Sacred Stones, I really do. It's probably still my favorite in the series. But I don't think I could ever say that it's the best in the series.
    I think Sacred Stones is best explained as marred by choices. It tried to do so much, and in the end, a lot of it ends up clashing.
    The best example being the world map, and the ability to grind freely. On the one hand, it does allow you to completely hand tailor your team to do whatever you feel like. But it also completely, and I do mean completely, removes any sort of difficulty from the game. It makes you choose between allowing yourself complete freedom of choice of units, and the integrity of the game itself. I'm not saying Sacred Stones is hard, it's actually extremely easy even on the highest difficulty. But the option to grind, while it allows you to use whoever you want, it makes the game feel stale, when you would think the customization would do the opposite.
    The story is honestly just bland. Nothing that happens in the game has any real weight to it. The twins struggle with fighting against their friend Lyon feels completely artificial, mostly because we don't actually see Lyon properly interacting with the twins, we don't get to really feel how strong this bond of theirs actually was. Lyon envied Ephraim and fell in love with Eirika, and we never really get to understand why outside of Ephraim being strong and Eirika being beautiful. The major plot of the story revolves around these three characters, and they feel lost in the war. There is one really important piece of information that is dropped during the story, and it _only_ comes to light if you play Ephraim's route, which is how Lyon came to be possessed by the Demon King. The route split itself also hurt the story by splitting up information like this.
    The last thing being Lyon himself; the route split essentially makes you choose between Lyon and the Demon King. As pointed out before, we don't really know Lyon outside of the _very_ little we know of his friendship with the twins. You can almost argue that we know more about the Demon King, the greatest evil to ever walk Magvel, who the five heroes with the Sacred Stones, could only seal away at the cost of many, many lives. But because Lyon is essentially at this point, two different characters, we never get to Lyon. You can even argue that the bit of Lyon that we get in Eirika's route is the Demon King just messing with Eirika the entire time. But I feel like even that loses it weight because we never got to the real Lyon. Him as the vessel for the Demon King feels incredibly hallow.
    And that's what I get from Sacred Stones for the most part, hallowness. There are characters I love in this game, music I love, mechanics that I love in this game, but I feel like there are so many issues that hold this game back from being the really great FE that a lot of people agree that it is. I genuinely love this game, but there are enough flaws that I don't think it could ever be the best in the series.

    • @-lord1754
      @-lord1754 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To be fair, the game is pretty easy regardless of if you grind.

    • @stuff1487
      @stuff1487 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A Failed Mercenary Almost every FE game is easy. Imo mostly all of them have a lot of flaws except like New Mystery.

    • @-lord1754
      @-lord1754 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stuff148 Literally every game has flaws what kind of statement is that? Also fe probably isnt easy you are just good at it. I think a certain fe game is pretty easy but then someone inexperienced picks it up and cant do anything right.

    • @stuff1487
      @stuff1487 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      -Lord Most FE games are easy people just don’t know what units to use. I don’t think Hard Mode in Fe8 or Fe9 take that much skill for example, since you can just spam Seth and Titania but many casuals refuse to. Also Fe12 could have flaws maybe but they are so minor and if there are any it probably isn’t gameplay.

    • @Rawr1752
      @Rawr1752 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean, you could just spam Catria and Palla in FE12 and probably be fine, but you know.

  • @zdream720
    @zdream720 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're really entertaining and accurate at the same time. Subscribed! :)

  • @markcooper4876
    @markcooper4876 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I haven’t played a ton of Fire Emblem games, but I have played the Sacred Stones and Awakening. The Sacred Stones was amazing! Granted I was like 10 when I bought it, but I sunk hundreds of hours into the tower and ruins. The post game is awesome. I spent many hours unlocking the leaders, and Lyon btw does not disappoint. Seeing this review makes me wish I still had my GBA. :(

  • @federicocalvo7660
    @federicocalvo7660 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    14:40 the point, other than completionism, is that a long time ago there was the possibility to challenge your friends on near GBAs to battles with your units. So unlocking the whole roster was a matter of having the most diverse and powerful set of units available.

  • @CrazyBrook96
    @CrazyBrook96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cuz of my childhood and the cool characters the monsters and stuff, i love dat game the most

  • @User20XX
    @User20XX 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just discovered your channel and I appreciate the FE retrospects. Also, Comrades is an amazing track!

  • @reeseseater12
    @reeseseater12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Think they could do a remake of this one? I think they could do what they did with Echos; flesh out the story a bit more, add voice acting & more depth to characters, hell, I'd say expand the story a bit too. I personally think they could cut back with the monsters that show up between chapters, because after you beat one a few times another one appears. I say have a set number, like 1-2 skirmishes, between each chapter. That would balance out the grind with the story a bit better (I remember getting like 3-4 a few times and they just kept popping up). However I do like this game in general, it was my introduction to the series, so I got a soft spot for it

  • @shelbysteverson4841
    @shelbysteverson4841 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're forgetting the fact that Lyon was only pretending to be controlled by the demon. That's the big twist. He was in control the whole time.

  • @albionflux
    @albionflux 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My favorite fe game, although also my first so might be biased.
    Although no denying joshua best swordmaster ever

    • @GrassPokeKing
      @GrassPokeKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joshua 2nd best swordmaster ever, technically

    • @albionflux
      @albionflux 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GrassPokeKing who beats him?

    • @GrassPokeKing
      @GrassPokeKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@albionflux Ismaire, his mother, mostly because she's a MI... uh... because she's very pretty :)

  • @Mushroomfields
    @Mushroomfields 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I came here with ideas on points to give as to why I put SS in my least favorites but ended up hearing them from the video (the story, characters and the grinding that returned on future games). I may excuse the not-so-outstanding presentation of the Tellious games but for me got the problems on this one right, the Bexp is the best for getting some levels but is a reward for performance or choices made in the battle.
    All the options for future videos sounds good, might prefer hearing about your opinion on 6, since I like it the most out of the GBA games. The side objectives and maps are funnier but it isn't the most replayable because of too many characters not being viable to use. Also, the story is quite good, but Roy is not that fleshed out. Thinking of some characters as the child of many in the previous game is interesting too, as Raigh and Lugh (Jaffar&Nino) and the shy and polite personality in Lilina from her mother Florina (death to the LynxHector shippers)

  • @kentknightofcaelin4537
    @kentknightofcaelin4537 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:23 have you ever tried playing Garcia?

  • @overlorddystroy4044
    @overlorddystroy4044 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Theres at least a second Sacred stones video about Forde by Ghast. Also, Do Awakening or PoR next.

  • @alexstewart8428
    @alexstewart8428 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So Sacred Stones was my intro to the franchise, after being introduced to FE characters through Melee. This game will always have a place in my heart, and was actually my fav until awakening, because I like variety, and having options. This was the only game until awakening that let you choose class changes, like you said, and I love that.

  • @DreamMarko
    @DreamMarko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love Sacred Stones, it's one of my favorite games in the series.

  • @jaimereupert4247
    @jaimereupert4247 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I saw a video about most powerful rpg characters and they had Seth on there. After seeing that I downloaded this game on my phone emulator. I enjoy everything except the permanent death. The fact that just by seer luck you can lose any unit sucks. Other than that I'm enjoying the game.

  • @norman20100
    @norman20100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like that you can freely move on world map and it was first game i think to get this anyone know which parts also have this feature? awakening i think also

  • @ZenBridger
    @ZenBridger 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I'm surprised you're not a fan of FE 6. If you ever deign to give it a try again, I'd suggest playing it while keeping the map design in mind. It has some of the best maps in the series with multiple objectives per map and incentives for efficient play.
    In this way, I'd say it's pretty much the perfect opposite of 8 or Echoes. It's got some of the most thought put into how the player will/should play the game, but unfortunately suffers from some quality of life, playtest, and minor balance issues.
    Of course, take this with a grain of salt, as this is all coming from someone who loves old Fire Emblem and loathes, as you put it, the newer RPG mechanics. The way I see it, I have countless games where I can grind and teambuild, but only classic Fire Emblem manages to pull off tactical gameplay and resource management in such a perfect convergence.
    Anyways, thanks for the video. I think you're criminally under-watched and have especially been enjoying your FE content.

    • @piojoaquinlopez8881
      @piojoaquinlopez8881 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Only thing I didn't like about fe6 is that the axes are so unreliable

    • @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441
      @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I managed to get that game for my gba for 30 dollars! pretty good deal! and yea I rarely use axe units

    • @Starwars-Fanboy
      @Starwars-Fanboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fe 6 is my favorite

    • @mauvedragontiddies9244
      @mauvedragontiddies9244 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I absolutely adore FE 6, Zephiel is my favorite villain too.
      If it ever gets a remake, Roy isn't just a worse version if his father, characters and classes are more balanced and honestly ... the characters and plot being even more engaging, I can see it becoming my favorite game.
      Remove ambush reinforcements though, fucking hell.

    • @Starwars-Fanboy
      @Starwars-Fanboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Slendy
      Agreed , I don’t want fe 6 to be the Roy and Merlinus show .
      Also what would you say isn’t balanced about the classes in fe 6 specifically ? I’d agreed that some of the characters are but what classes are ?

  • @mariogonzalez2674
    @mariogonzalez2674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fácilmente he terminado más de 5 o más veces este juego y simplemente puedo decir que es perfecto, hay que decir que si tiene una historia muy cliché como cualquier libro de literatura de aventura, pero por dios, los personajes, la música, los villanos y los escenarios son oro puro, y volver a jugarlo con otras unidades completamente diferentes a otras partidas le daba rejugabilidad inmensa incluyendo asi la división de historia que sucede entre Eirika y Ephraim, simplemente en la nostalgia y si pueden decir que es fácil, pero recuerdo haber llegado al bosque donde luchas contra el padre de Myrrh con solo 8 unidades ajajajjaajaj para mí era lo más épico recuerdo sacrificar a Saleh para vencer al padre, y de pequeño me quedo la espina de que nunca lo pude pasar, y lo recuerdo con mucho cariño la verdad! Videojuego de mi infancia! 😫

  • @PeevedLatias
    @PeevedLatias 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just can't stand the idea of grinding in a fire emblem game. The way you decide who gets what kills and how rewarding it is to actually train a weak unit when doing so is difficult is just infinitely more rewarding in my opinion.

  • @LCardosed92
    @LCardosed92 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    There is another big reason why Sacred Stones is the best Fire Emblem game. It has the best waifu, Eirika, and the best villain, Lyon, in the game.

    • @iae8793
      @iae8793 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      and Ephraim is up there in best husbandos, with Hector and Ike.

    • @LCardosed92
      @LCardosed92 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iae8793 our boi Gordin is best husbando

    • @Zer0Zwei
      @Zer0Zwei 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And seth best pre-promote

    • @wingedspear1
      @wingedspear1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lets be honest here...if Eirika had a more forgettable character design, most of us wouldnt even remember her, FE8 is my favorite game, but oh god most of the other characters in the game are more interesting than her design and character wise, there is a point that you forget that Eirika exist and L'Arachel just becomes the main ''Lord'' next to Ephraim since she gets a very interesting background, the best supports and have a lot actually important dialogs in the game, you could say she is actually the main character.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i have no idea what makes larachel that interessting.

  • @ryanrobinson4287
    @ryanrobinson4287 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    After being completely blown away by awakening, (first FE game to be fair)
    Fates taught me to never get too hype for a game on the off chance it might not be worth all the hype.
    It was a very painful lesson...

    • @ryanrobinson4287
      @ryanrobinson4287 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Birthright, and from what I've heard/seen conquest had an even worse story. That's not even what bothered me though, every single character was so one note and annoying, they didn't have any personality. Awakening looking back had a mediocre story too but all the characters were so much fun and lively.

    • @BlackDragon41sbm
      @BlackDragon41sbm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought Fates was a decent game, not the best but it was nowhere near a disappointment to me unlike so many that claim it was.

    • @redjackal7823
      @redjackal7823 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      When playing Fates, it didn’t disappoint me as much as I played this game called Paper Mario Sticker Star and that game was the most disappointment I ever had in my life of gaming. In my opinion, Birthright was my least favorite out of the three routes. I only liked Fates gameplay than it’s story.
      My next Fire Emblem game to play is Genealogy Of The Holy War. (I wanted to get my hands on that game) After playing this Fire Emblem And Path Of Radiance, I find Fates to be an okay game and not really the best game when it comes to story.

    • @redjackal7823
      @redjackal7823 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ryan Robinson I liked Awakening better than Fates.

  • @beansoap9264
    @beansoap9264 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    shadow dragon was the first one i played and it got me hooked so it will always be special to me in that regard

  • @shadowdeku6926
    @shadowdeku6926 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video has got me wanting to replay the series. Haven't touched the GBA games since I was a kid and, I'd like to assume, I'd get even more out of it now that I'm older.

  • @braedonwatkins967
    @braedonwatkins967 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this game through and through.
    Replaying for the some dozenth time just for inspiration for DM material as I just started running dnd.

  • @juicedkpps
    @juicedkpps 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *When people talk about the Gerik support science that Ghast made but no one notices he's done Forde before*
    Cries in Cavaliers.

  • @Synathidy
    @Synathidy ปีที่แล้ว

    You're the first game content creator I've seen other than myself who uses an SM58 mic. I stream games with one. Very good taste, I must say.
    Don't know about you, but the reason I use an SM58 and not a more typical condenser mic is that I started out as a music recording hobbyist and then transitioned into streaming. I originally got the SM58 because it was good for loud rock or metal vocals, but I found it was plenty sufficient for recording high quality commentary as well. What a classic, cool microphone. Only cool people like us use it.

  • @MilkmanYeti
    @MilkmanYeti 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved Lute so much when I got Awakening I modeled my Robin after her. Full mage named Lute with purple hair.

  • @fangthefabulous1132
    @fangthefabulous1132 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awakening is my favorite because it was my first but I loved playing through Sacred Stones. I don't grind because I don't have enough gold to but more weapons.

  • @nahte123456
    @nahte123456 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    19:00 I have a soft spot for Fates, the story IS bad but it has so much potential, in both story and characters, and I love it for that much at least.

  • @adamh.8832
    @adamh.8832 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got this game as a birthday present when I was a kid and have played through it countless times. Glad to see that it's justified.

  • @davidsmememachine4434
    @davidsmememachine4434 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought rekka no kens final boss had 104 hp while the demon king has 120? Or did I get those two mixed up?

  • @yaboiskittlez7943
    @yaboiskittlez7943 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has anyone here shown this to Ghast yet? Because I love Ghast's videos. I wonder if he saw this, maybe he would do more support science for Sacred Stones

  • @Junol23
    @Junol23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A recommendable game. Thank you for your persuasive piece.

  • @hanktank45
    @hanktank45 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sacred stones was my first game and I love it. I love the recruit units and the music. I love the art. Ephraim is one of my favorite characters. Also cormag looks cool

  • @andystephon871
    @andystephon871 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have played two fe games so far. I am not sure what its called but its the one with the leader wearing a chinese blue dress thing. That was fun but it doesnt hold a candle to five stones. Once i got a phone emulator i just dived into it in all my spare time. I do a ton of grinding and just wipe an army with a couple chars. Ive leveled all the mages. Cavaliers and archers all that to 20 and then promoted. Ur right in saying it lowers difficulty a great deal but then there are map objectives like recruiting and getting all the treasures. So i focus on tearing up the enemy tissue paper and getting everything i can. Only at chapter 18 or 19 i think and about to get amelia to lvl 20 and make her a paladin to go with frans. This is my third playthrough

  • @nicholasterreri6999
    @nicholasterreri6999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Path of radiance and radiant dawn are my favorite, I really want a radiant collection on switch

    • @ambrosiaaa9064
      @ambrosiaaa9064 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nicholas T Considering how much the original games are online I agree

  • @improcrastinator7130
    @improcrastinator7130 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fe8 is my favorite solely for post game being able to give me the fruits of my labor in teambuilding

  • @Brandon_Obsidian
    @Brandon_Obsidian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In defense to the point brought up in the 5th minute, they were extremely close with Grado empire down to the heirs being childhood friends thus heavy border security wasn't ever needed for that specific country/border.

  • @mauvedragontiddies9244
    @mauvedragontiddies9244 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Shadow Dragon is a solid game.
    Strange for you that it seems you don't really care about it when you proclaimed that you're a fan of the "less is more" style.
    It absolutely rocks that simplistic style and owns it.

  • @hairyballs089
    @hairyballs089 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    have you played thracia yet? A new translation pack came out not to long ago.

    • @BeyondPolygons
      @BeyondPolygons  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have been playing it! It's really good, I just haven't sat down and thought of making a video on it.... Yet!

    • @hairyballs089
      @hairyballs089 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BeyondPolygons Ah, I figured with your channel logo. I'll be looking forward to a video on it since it's probably my favorite in the series lol. Keep up the good work!

    • @BeyondPolygons
      @BeyondPolygons  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hairyballs089 Good eye! I did change it because I was planning to make a video on it but then 3 Houses came out and it threw off everything! I will definitely talk about it eventually! 😅

  • @unhhgcrxexhjvuvujchcrzwzwz7956
    @unhhgcrxexhjvuvujchcrzwzwz7956 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4 play throughs and somehow did not know generals can use swords

  • @halcyon_echo42
    @halcyon_echo42 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The mods using FE8's engine are amazing too

  • @skipartz
    @skipartz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally, a man of taste.

  • @tyson2966
    @tyson2966 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I subscribed to your channel, because you started off your video by admitting that the title is clickbait. I can respect that

  • @chrischristian7511
    @chrischristian7511 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I prefer FE7 because Geitz can use killer axe & brave bow at base w/ no speed penalty… gets HHM bonus… can single handedly wipe out 20 wyverns on enemy phase… and has a gigantic pink bow

  • @viragogemini7403
    @viragogemini7403 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who's your favorite character in the whole franchise? Mine is Titania and Lute.

  • @axelkusanagi4139
    @axelkusanagi4139 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Moulder came out as a tank with 15+ defense. Colm became Tanky too...
    Favorite thing is making Tana a wyvern Knight to take advantage of pegasus knight's natural resistance.

    • @fangiscool1
      @fangiscool1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You only lose 1 resistance by going wyvern knight so you're not taking advantage of much. Wyvern knight is way better than Falcon knight because you get +4 con on a 5 con character

  • @-Serhat1995
    @-Serhat1995 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones is the most professionally made game of the GBA era. Graphics, animations, art, levels, items, replayability, design, UI, length, story, music, mathematic and more elements are just near perfectly made. Older Fire Emblem games (GBA era) are more natural like and little more amateur. Sacred Stones is much more professional. I really wish to see a remake of this game. (On PC :D!)
    This is my most loved game of all times btw :), second is Silent Hill, third is Mount&Blade: Warband and the 4th is Age of Empires III.

  • @maverick5169
    @maverick5169 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    16:28
    Funny thing is, I feel the same about the Fe7 cast XD

  • @sefi863
    @sefi863 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Path of Radiance please. It's my favorite FE game

  • @Tomouryu
    @Tomouryu หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sacred Stone is one of my favorite FE series. The mechanics are very diverse for a GBA game. Training towers. Split promotion paths. Oh and spiders. Hehe 😈😈. Yeah I hate the spiders which is why it feels so good having Lute chuck fireballs at them.

  • @ambrosiaaa9064
    @ambrosiaaa9064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One word why Sacred Stones is fantastic........... Lyon- if you play Ephraims route his character is really tragic and he isn’t a stereotypical possessed victim. He hates himself that much he became a monster with his own will because he believes he was inferior to both Ephraim and Eirika

  • @iColm
    @iColm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would be that strange person who likes shadow dragon the most out of the series despite having a fe8 character.
    Good vid keep doing your thing

  • @Alex-mb2cy
    @Alex-mb2cy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    FE7 and SS are amazing, loved them both on Wii U.

  • @popers1328
    @popers1328 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Radiant Dawn is still my favorite.

  • @Xeroxthebeautiful
    @Xeroxthebeautiful 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sacred stones was the game that made me fall i love with the series and is still my favorite to this day even if I admit it isn't the best storywise. Also please do a Cipher video I love that game but it's hard to get my card game buddies to give it a try.

  • @pollyanabeatriz7662
    @pollyanabeatriz7662 ปีที่แล้ว

    I My first fire emblem I played was Sacred Stones I liked it so much, it has a lot of negative points, but the story I love, I love the characters I wanted a remake of it so bad

  • @gundom00wing2
    @gundom00wing2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i do wish they go back to SS but set in like a 200 years or something like that