IBN TAYMIYAAH - THE NEMESIS OF THE SUPER SALAFEES & MADAAKHILAH
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- This video is the destruction of the holy mantle of new Salafism.
I will present really eye opening statements from Ibn Taymiyaah which would make any Super Salafee / Madaakhilah confused and scratching their heads.
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I don't know anyone that presents such a balanced view as Bro Hajji. He is unique in that he acknowledges/rejects BOTH the extremes of both Ashari and Atharis. Very unique and well thought out Marsh'Allah. Always proud of you and your contributions. May Allah SWT reward and bless you.
will saying this is also right and that is also right help anybody in front of Allah? Was the deen not made clear and complete? I am not sure how "balancing" works really? Is deen about balanacing batil and huq? i really dont get it why does one even has to consider anything but Huq?
ok ive seen this before, but no google search has yielded usefel info. What is the difference between an ashari and athari?
If Sh Islam Ibn Taymiyyah was alive today, the Super Salafis/Madkhali's like ARH/SPUBS would label him an ikhwani for trying to unite the Atharis with the Ash'ariyyah
And Ma'turidiyaa.
A sub-sect of Madkhalis (Hidadis) already decided to make Tabde'e on scholars throughout history; they consider Ibn Taymiyyah, Imam Abu Hanifa, al-Nawawi, and Ibn Hajr to be massive deviants.
The problem with the madkhali super salafi is they don’t want honour and izza and victory for Islam and Muslims they want it for their sect. For this reason they will fail.
well done !
this clarified a lot
Assalamu alaikum bro hajji
I would like to advice you to keep doing these short video or even shorter, 1 hadith per video as many people tend not to watch long videos
You change my perception on salafi completely, JazakAllah, may Allah reward you.
Some of us like longer videos
@@alqubrusia I understand and I like the long video too but most people won't watch 1h video. People needs to know the dangers of salafi and as bro hajji himself said there will never be unity with the salafi, they hinder the progress of the ummah and as such awareness is necessary.
Keep doing both bro hajji perhaps create a news channel for the the short videos
InshAllah someone put on timestamps... make it easier for some of us.. collect some reward انشاءاللہ
Bro Hajji will often release snippets of his longer videos but generally speaking the nature of these academic videos necessitates lengthy videos due to the thorough research required to justify a position. There's just no other way around it I'm afraid.
barak Allah feek brother, let’s all remember at the end of the day that the reason for this is to serve the Deen of Allah. That uniting the Ummah is in our best interest and the interest of our Deen. We do not disagree with these brothers to rub it in, it’s to open our hearts towards accepting each other and working towards progress for the Ummah.
May Allah accept your khidmah and make your efforts a mean to unite the Ahlus sunnah. Aameen.
It's funny how the Madakhilah will accuse Bro Hajji of deception. Which deceptive person shares evidences on screen for everyone to see for themselves?
And then they will pick out his Arabic mistakes (minor ones) because they see no other way of attacking him 😂😂 haha..clowns
Yet when you look at their 'Shuyukh' such as Abu Khadijah he speaks Arabic to a child's level and cannot even recite the Fatiha correctly...
Spoke nothing but FACTS!
Brilliant. May Allah bless you more
you're the definition of working hard Masha'Allah💙
I wonder what's next after the end of jadida or mazakhilla
👆 Masha Allah your turning sober and graceful as against being harsh and mocking earlier... A very positive and welcome change. Please be graceful and decent irrespective of what they do to you. May Allah guide you to the best of the manners.
First problem with the Salaafis is they jumbled up everything as 'Aqiyda issues. That is why they are prone to turn into Takfiyris and eventually Khawaarij.
Istirgasa and Tawassul are fiq'h matters and not classed under 'Aqiyda nor Tasawwuf matters among ASWJ.
Therefore it has nothing to do with the 'Ash'ariyya whose jurisdiction is 'Aqiyda (matters concerning Godhood and the mind).
All fiq'h issues are refer to the Hanaafiyya, Maalikiyya, Shaafi'iyya and Hanbaliyya fiq'h schools.
If the Salaafiyya-Wahhaabiyya has a problem with Tawassul and Istirgasa then they need to man up and stop squirming like snakes and openly declare their conflict with the four fiq'h school of ASWJ that has approved Tawassul and Istiragasa for practice with a cautionary advice on the choice of wordings use attached.
What is the nasheed at the beginning
Can you do a book recommadation?
Can we get a libary tour?
It is said that Ibn Taymiyyah mention that Asharis are private parts of Jahmiyyah. Abu Layth mentioned about this. Can you please clarify?
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Assalaamu alaykum. Some people claim that Ibn Taymiyyah became an Ash‘ari and that that is why some Ash‘ari scholars praised him.He (Ibn Taymiyyah) was kept in jail till the Ameer of Aal Al-Fadhl interceded for him. On Rabee‘ Ul-Awwal, 23, Ibn Taymiyyah was brought to the fortress, where he debated with some scholars, and then a report was written that states that “Ibn Taymiyyah admitted to being an Ash‘ari.” His handwriting is found with what he wrote verbatim, namely:
“I believe that the Quran is a meaning which exists in Allah's Entity and that it is an Attribute from the pre-eternal Attributes of His Entity, and that it is uncreated, and that it does not consist in the letter, nor the voice, and that His saying (what means): {The Merciful established Himself over the Throne.} [Quran 20:4] is not taken according to its literal meaning, and I do not know in what its meaning consists. Nay, only Allah knows it, and one speaks of His 'descent' in the same way as one speaks of His 'establishment.'”
It was written by Ahmad ibn Taymiyyah, and they testified that he had repented of his own free will from all that contravened the above. This took place on the 25th of Rabee‘ Al-Awwal 707, and it was witnessed by a huge array of scholars and others. [Ibn Hajr Al-Asqalani in Ad-Duraar Al-Kameena (1/47)] How true is this accusation?
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All perfect praise be to Allah, the Lord of the worlds. I testify that there is none worthy of worship except Allah and that Muhammad  is His slave and Messenger.
First of all, this accusation is not true. Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah followed the creed of the Salaf (righteous predecessors) of this nation. His books are exuberant in support of the methodology of the Salaf, and he responded to the Ash‘ariyyah in matters wherein they disagreed with the belief of the Salaf. So it is inconceivable that he believed in an ideology while he at the same time refuted it and debated with its followers in his various books. That would be a stark contradiction.
Also, how is it possible that he changed his ideology while we do not find a single statement of his that indicates this alleged change, despite the long period between his imprisonment in Egypt and his death (more than 20 years), and the abundance of his writings in that period?!
Secondly: Most of his famous students did not take knowledge from him until after his return from Egypt. If he had changed to that of the Ash‘ariyyah, this would have appeared in their ideology and books, and they would have been influenced by it. One of the most famous of his students was Imaam Ibn Al-Qayyim, who met Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah in 712 A.H and kept his company until his death.
Ibn Katheer said - when he wrote the biography of Ibn Al-Qayyim, “And when Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah returned from Egypt in the year 712 A.H, Ibn Al-Qayyim kept his company until he died, and he received considerable knowledge from him.”
So how can it be justified by any rational person that Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah, the Shaykh of Ibn Al-Qayyim, whose books, methodology and refutations of the Ash‘ariyyah are known to us, was an Ash‘ari?!
Thirdly: Taqiy Ad-Deen As-Subki, who was one of the most famous opponents of Ibn Taymiyyah, wrote many refutations which indicate his differences with him in some ideology issues, and he composed a poem after the death of Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah in which he said that if Ibn Taymiyyah had still been alive, he would have refuted some of his opinions and statements. Had Ibn Taymiyyah converted to the ideology of the Ash‘aris, there would not have been any need for As-Subki to refute him, and many Ash‘aris would not have continued to consider him as misguided and to refute him after his death.
Fourthly: Ibn Hajar mentioned this incident, we mean this book and its content in regard to Ibn Taymiyyah changing to the Ash‘arriyah, in Ad-Durar Al-Kaaminah. But we have many books of history at hand, and we have not come across any author who reported this other than him, especially Imam Ath-Thahabi, who was the student of Ibn Taymiyyah, and he was the most knowledgeable about him. Also, we have the book of Ibn Katheer, Al-Bidaayah wan-Nihaayah, who was the student of his student Ibn Al-Qayyim.
Ibn Katheer mentioned the debate between Shaykh Ibn Taymiyah and his opponents in the events of Rabee’ Al-Awwal 707 AH, but he did not mention this book.
Fifthly: The book Ad-Durar Al-Kaaminah is one of the books of history in which the authors collected everything that reached them, but this does not necessarily mean that all that is written in them is correct. In addition to this, the statement: “a report was written that Ibn Taymiyyah admitted to be an Ash‘ari” means that his opponents wrote this about him. The fact that he had written at the end: ‘written by Ahmad ibn Taymiyyah’ does not prove at all that it is really written by him, as well as what was mentioned by them, that they testified that he had repented out of his own free will from all that.
Allah knows best.
watch ibn taymiyya be called an ikhwani now
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Brother will you release a video about what we discussed I tried reaching you again but there was no response.
Absolutely excellent research with a sober sincere analysis
@bro hajji - Does ibn taymiyah’s position on creed represent the definitive view of the athari/hanbali creed? I take it that most Salafis will claim that it does but is this the agreement of all the hanabila? The hanbali scholars who came after him (but before ibn Abdul wahab) such as ibn muflih or mardawi - did they agree with all the positions ibn taymiyah took on creed? The traditional hanbalis who do not ascribe to salafiya, is there understanding of the athari creed exactly the same or not? Are there nuances within the athari creed itself?
@Yahya Ali so it’s not black and white in the athari creed either then if there are those from them who do accept tafwid.
So the atharis who do tafwid, are they not similar to the asharis in that regard then? On what other matters do they differ then?
Search up sheikh muhammad abdul wahid. He is a hanbali scholar. Not a salafi
@Yahya Ali not all asharis do tawil and interpret. The safest position is tafwid. So if there is tafwid with some hanbali atharis too, then in this regard they are similar to the asharis. I ask because this discussion is always framed as though the 2 are always at opposites but it would seem at least some from both groups have very similar views.
@Yahya Ali Asharis (and Maturidi) are split between Tafwid of meaning and Taweel. So you have two positions among them, and historically those who believe in Tafwid of meaning and Taweel wrote rebuttals against each other.
Atharis believe in Tafwid of modality; so they believe that Allah has a specific attribute called "Yadd", but we are incapable of imaginging it or know how it exists beyond the attribute being unlike anything in creation, and they consider this position no different than saying that Allah has sight or hearing which we are incapable of imagining.
@@shadowwhowalk It’s not conclusive that the athari/hanbali position is unanimously tafwid of modality and does not also include tafwid of meaning especially when it comes to the statements of the Salaf which are open to varying interpretations. Its not clear that all hanbali scholars agree upon the creed exactly as articulated by ibn taymiyah either. It’s also highly dubious to say that one knows the meaning of hand or affirms the meaning of hand literally when it pertains to Allah but then remains silent on actually providing a meaning (which therefore appears very much like not knowing the meaning really). It sounds like semantics and the position in reality being not much different to tafwid, both in meaning and modality in reality. Neither is it the same as other attributes such as sight or hearing because their affirmation is unlike affirming the meaning of hand which in any literal conception, is always a body part be it that of a clock, door or anything else for that matter.
Who didn't know that hafid ibnul hajar was asha'iri.
All salafis say he is not ashari he was salafi athari a man of the sunnah
@@amarnahad2835 I am sahabiya
No Salafi follows Allamah ibn Jawzi (rahimahullah), he wasn't an athromorph like the Aby Yala branch of the hanabilah which thllmany modern claimants of being Attari follow. Believe in the words and leave the meaning to God.
How do you do that?
Nemesis, is this a reference to Resident Evil 3? If so....nice!
Does Ibn Hajar RH say that Ibn Taymiyya RH said that he was an Ashari?
Yes, and he repented. Ibn taymiyyah rh was not a prophet or getting wahy. He is a scholar that made mistakes and repented. Therefore, any of his books of attributes of ALLAH which had been written down is old news, rejected, repented from, except for anything besides it stands unless he backed off from certain position or changed his mind. Scholars do that. Abu Hasan Al Ashari rh also repented from Mu'tazilah views and came to True creed of the salafusaleh.
@@bourney4914 this i believe is disputed, as non of his students ever said this in their works about him.
Brother hajji, where and how did you learn Arabic?
I’m still learning Akhi. My Arabic needs improving جزاك الله خيرا
I just wanted to know for my own benefit akhi. I’m studying Arabic alone at home by listening to lectures from ulamah etc But I want to be able to read and understand books from the scholars, so wanted your advice on how you learn inshallah. May Allah bless you akh. I love watching your content. May Allah keep you upright and on the haqq and bless you fi dunya wal akhira 🙏🏼
@@JavedKhan-wi1js Ebrahim College do an Arabic intensive which is one of the best I've seen in the UK. They have different pathways - for example full time 9-5 Mon to Fri (one year), part time Sundays (2 years), part time weekdays (2 or 3 years), which suits different needs. They provide scholarships if you can't afford it and if you're not in UK London you can still do it online. Hope that helps :-)
Your muskeen may Allah guide you
Stfu peasant
والله من المؤسف أنك لا تعرف ما المقصود من قول الأشاعرة بتقديم العقل على النقل. أرجوك أن تعود إلى كتب الأشاعرة لتحقق المسألة.
جزاك الله خيراً
You are a Liar.
This scholars الله يرحمه all They was all good scholars at the time they was leading the ppl with the issues they had at the time in different parts of the world they was Living they had victory and had good education to for the people we all have to go back to scholars with some of the different issues you ppl have today around the world but some ppl and some scholars of today miss leading ppl with the time they Live and issues they had at the time in different parts of the world with different Issues we have today around the world It seems at times ppl Go back to something they are not living themselves in that part of the world or time or issues they had and we have In different parts of the world today with ppl but ppl like shamsi Are living in their own planet
Do you think what you're doing is good?
at least, better than what you're doing ! :)
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Okay what I'm doing?
@@umarbnnaseer you know it better !