How to install new wiring and turn signals in a 1930 Ford Model A to make it safe to drive today!
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- Installing all new wiring (wire harness) in my 1930 Ford Model A deluxe coupe, including turn signals. This makes it much safer to drive an antique car in "modern" traffic (where everyone is trying to kill you).
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Now I want a model A myself after watching your videos
Do it!! You will be glad you did.
@@ModelA but where do you even find model a cars now??
@@Ryan_._. Here is one of many places- www.mafca.com/cl/cl-v-sale.html
@@ModelA I’ll take a look. Thanks a lot!
After watching your previous wiring harness install I purchased the exact same harness from Bratton’s and now have turn signals. I installed amber glass lens in my cowl lights with LED bulbs and no longer confuse everyone with my hand signals Lol
Hahahaa! Good work Rich!! Yea, I have a seat of those amber cowl light lenses I bought many years ago. I had them on my tudor sedan for a while. I can't remember why I removed them. That's what I should put on Gandalf.
@@ModelA Even better are the amber colored LED bulbs. Installing 6V amber LED bulbs (available on Amazon) in the cowl lamps keeps them looking stock when the lamps are off, but provide a rich, bright amber color for both the turn signals and parking lights.
Good stuff, Paul.
I feel your pain...
Take care of yourself while healing.
Thank you, brother!! And thank you for the contribution!
Amazing videos, nice to see the model a ford is still alive. I've restored a 1929 tudor in the 80's. I'm getting ready to buy another one, fun city.......
Right on! Good job David!! You know the saying... If you subscribe to my TH-cam channel, your Model A won't break down on the next tour!
I am impressed by how simple the Model A Ford is. This is a very basic and simple electrical system that is just lights and an ignition system. Even into the 1960s car electrical systems were still fairly simple and an electrical diagram could be made on one sheet of paper. But now with all the computerized electronics and the multitude of features and accessories the electrical diagrams of a car today can be over 100 pages. Also the wiring harnesses are incredibly complex and contain a tremendous number of wires.
Yep. Computer cars are scary
@@ModelA I have an example of how Computer cars can be scary. My 2011 BMW 328i developed an intermittent engine stall problem when I would come to a stop. It took the BMW dealer about 5 days to trace down the problem to a failing engine crankshaft position sensor. With one of your Model A Fords, if it develops an intermittent engine stall problem there are only two simple items to check, the simple carburetor and the simple distributor ignition system.
@@davidgrisez Absolutely!!! Here's another one for you- I had a newer pickup that would go through radiators every couple years or less. Even 12-24 months, the radiator would suddenly spring a leak. Never overheated, just smell of coolant and a puddle underneath after stopping. The rubber gaskets along the sides would fail. Aftermarket radiators would only last a month, but OEM ones at 3x the cost would past a year or two. I was so exasperated, I got a friend involved who is also an engineer and we developed a chart recorder for all the vital systems. I will make this short- About a year into it, we discovered that the computer ignition module would advance the timing SO much, that the cylinder pressures would soar and the pressure would make it past the head gaskets into the cooling system and pressurize it so much, it would blow out the rubber radiator gaskets. Since it would only do it while the truck was cruising on the highway with cruise control on, and on flat ground, there was no pinging or any other indication of timing being 40-50 degrees advanced. It was part of the software trying to increase the fuel economy, we presume. Swapped the computer (no easy or cheap task) and it has been fine ever since.
Lots of Fun Paul ! now I know what those little metal pieces in my junk are for clips for holding model A wiring to the frame !!
Nice explanation on how the wiring works and what has to be done to successfully achieve the wiring harness change. You're getting Gandalf there, cool air pump, getting ready for the touring, good job. Good luck with all of it, thanks and I hope you have a wonderful weekend!
Thanks for watching, Dan! Gandalf is turning into a nice rig.
Great video. Model A Guy words of wisdom of the day - ‘using my American made screwdriver.’ Absolutely and using it on a piece of American Ford history. Thanks to you and the others for setting up the Model A tech question email site. Good weather in Arizona for a Model A day and car show in Prescott Valley.
Thanks, brother!! Please tell everyone I said HI down there in Prescott Valley!
You do a very nice job with this. Your ability to share is an incredible asset to the "family" of owners and future enthusiasts.
I appreciate that!
Always good. Checking the fuse after every step is a super good idea and btw the model a tech guys are awesome. Thank you so much for the resource.
Happy to help, Craig!
Amazing video Paul, thank you!!!
Glad you liked it!
Thank you Paul first i have seen this done!
Great! I have done a total of 3 wire harness videos so far. The other two, I did on the lift so you could see better.
I'm a little jealous. Replacing the harness on one of my bikes would be a lot more work. Heck, just removing all the stuff to get at the harness would be almost that much work.
Motorcycles are a whole different animal. All the wires need to be stashed away.
@@ModelA Yep. Most of it is under the seat and tank, which isn't all that hard to get at but you can't just crawl underneath and get at it.
Hey, Paul. There is a Story in the Wall Street Journal that mentions you. I think it great, what an impact you’ve made. He bought himself a 4 door model A.
I'm trying my best to make Model As cool again!!
Thanks! Just what I needed to know. Same issue, I needed and wanted turn signals. Great video. See you in New Mexico.
This is just one way, not the only way, for sure. But I tend to lean toward long term reliability over cost savings when it comes to safety stuff.
Hey Paul, looks like you’re healing pretty good.
Still praying that you continue to heal.
Getting up and down and crawling under the car I’m impressed after surgery.
See ya down a country road
Steve
It didn't feel very good, but I managed to do it. God bless
Blessings. Enjoy the ride.
Thank you, I will drive it like I know how to fix it. Hahaha!! God bless.
Very nice Mr S. The harness is in the future. If we hadn't just got 4 new tires and 4 new wheels, I'd consider that. Great job and hope you are all doing well.
I know the feeling, brother! This car is making me go broke.
Wish I had known about the Brattons harness before attempting to wire my own turn signals, looks much more straightforward!
It is WAY cleaner!
Turn signals, LED lights?!?Looks great and she runs nice!!
I think she’s a beautiful car💕
This car is sweeeeeeet!! You like so far?
For the uninitiated, all electrical devices run on smoke!
If the smoke leaks out, it no longer works!
Followed by, "Oops!"
Then wordy dirts.
😂😂😂😂😅😅😮😮
Great video! Mike from Missouri
Awesome! Thank you Mike!
Thanks Paul, someday I may have to replace the harness in my 1929 Sedan.
Your shop has a nice floor. You're in good shape.
just a friendly suggestion that would help people watching for your great step by step instructions, this video had a lot of limited viewing angles where we only see your shoulder and back. i know it's hard to do the task and get good filming. we appreciate all your efforts to grow the hobby to the 3rd/4th generations!
Thanks Andy. I will receive that. I know, I know... In the 2 previous wire harness videos, I did them on the lift and could show what was happening much better also.
Just a comment about side-mounted spares and wheel wells...my 1931 Tudor didn't have a wheel well but I wanted the spare mounted in the left front fender. I purchased the side mount hardware and a wheel well and had my body man cut a hole in the fender and weld it in using the enclosed template (which you can find on the MAFCA website.) My tires at the time were Firestone 19" and I found it difficult to get the tire in and out of the well. But when I got new Goodyear tires, the tire fit in much better and it was no longer necessary to loosen the metal bracket to get the tire in and out. Goodyears must be a little bit "thinner" than the Firestones.
Where's that wheel well template? From the left menu on the MAFCA website, choose TECHNICAL Q & A - then MEMBER TIPS.
Yes. Mentioned that in the side mount spare tire video. The Firestone tires are wider than the Goodyear tires. I prefer the Goodyear tires myself. But I had to use what was available on this car. Money got tight.
I didn’t know there was a wiring harness that incorporates the turn signals. I bought the logo lights LED kit. Still like it a lot though
Impressive camera work! Could actually see what you were doing. You made it look easy. This video belongs on the MAFCA website's VIDEOS page!
Do you know who could make that happen???
Super video Thanks!! When you hook up your cowl lights as directional lights, do you lose your cowl lights as cowl lights?
Nope. They still work as cowl lights too
i did not know you just posted this
I usually publish new videos on Saturdays.
@@ModelA thanks
I wish my wiring harness was that simple!
Paul, glad to hear of your recovery. What type of surgery did you have?
The bad kind of growth removed from left kidney and left ureter, blockage removed from left ureter, stones removed from both kidneys, stent installed from left kidney to bladder (to be removed in May).
Wow, I will keep you in my prayers. You are a GREAT COUPLE!
Thank you, brother! I appreciate the prayers. He is risen!!
Like the idea of the new fuses. Where did you get the new fuse block?
From the jungle website
Hi Paul! REALLY enjoyed seeing how you installed the harness and turn signal system! I do have a question, though. I think using the cowl lights on a car that has them is genius! But, once converted, can you use them like regular cowl lights, or are they only turn signals after the conversion? It would be nice to have the cowl lights still work as normal, but just flash when the turn signals are activated.
Good question, and I failed to show that. Yes, if you move the light switch lever to the left, then just the tail lights and cowl lights come on. If you hit a turn signal while they are on, it blinks the side the turn signal switch is moved to and the other stays on.
@@ModelA Thanks Paul! That sounds like a super great system!!
Nice work as usual Paul. I did notice the shifter has a bit of a different bend towards the top end. Did you get the car like that? I like it! Thanks ...Philip Vetter, Long Island N.Y.
Yes. It is an original stick that previous owner bent.
Nice video Paul. Thank you as always. I notice you do not have the clamp on the armored cable going to the distributor. Is this so you can easily remove the distributor?
I also notice a custom bend on your shifter, is this something you did and is it designed to give you more room?
Yes, that is so I can swap the distributor faster on the side of the road. That bend in the shifter was like that when I bought the car. It's an original shifter that someone bent.
Excellent video Paul 👍 Thank you for what you do for the Model A community!!!
My pleasure, brother!!
What gauge wire are the replacement looms using and it is it the same as what Henry used?
The simplicity of the model-A is amazing and the wiring alone is a great example. Today one has to be a computer technician to troubleshoot the can bus automotive wiring system. We forgotten KIS "keep it simple stupid" i.e. reliable
This harness uses 14 ga. stranded (but all copper) wire. I can't stand that copper clad aluminum junk either.
Thanks for sharing the video. A couple questions of curiosity.... 1) whats the green wire under the dash leading to the kick panel? (2) what hold down the storage trunk to the car? (3) will the windshield be replaced?
Answers:
1). It goes to a door switch that someone wired many years ago to turn on the dome light when the door was opened. I think.
2). 4 1/4-20 bolts.
3). Yes.
I’m redoing parts of the Wretched Roadster’s wiring. So your timing is spot-on!
One question: Is the stuff that tastes like dirty dog food or burnt chocolate pop-tarts different for 1928-29s versus 1930-31s? David from San Antonio. P.S. Rudy says hello.
The crud that falls off a 28/29 chassis is just slightly more minty than the crud from a 30/31. Rudy Blanco is one of my favorite people ever. Please tell him I said "Hola!!"
This is wonderful; I see Gandolf is sporting nice rims and tires! Like The Beatles’ song “getting better all the time”. 😉. What’s with the windshield?; it has some sort of goo or something in the perimeter?
It's the original 1930 windshield and it is de-laminating. Pretty common for that 90 year old safety glass.
Paul, love your channel. What can be done if your car is a 28/29? Since we don’t have cowl lights is blinkers in the bumpers the only option?
Only the deluxe models came with cowl lights, but a lot of people add them. Personally, I prefer no cowl lights. on my sport coupe, the front turn signal lights are in the bumper.
I like the trunk. What brand is it? I put a Steel Kote on my '31 Coupe. I made the rack for it since it is much wider than the standard racks. My local club has an annual "slow car run" here in Minnesota that is coming up in May. Our club just became a chapter of MAFCA..
Congratulations!!! I don't know who made that trunk. It was on a car I bought about 20+ years ago.
When I was a young mechanic working at the dealership an older mechanic told me how all electrical runs on smoke, if you let the smoke out it quits working. Would there be any advantage to using dielectric grease on the light switch contacts or other connections on the harness?
Electrical dielectric grease is not conductive. If it gets between the bumps and the cups in the light switch, it will cause resistance. I don't use it. A couple club members did and one nearly had an electrical fire. Had to use alcohol and clean the switches out so their lights didn't flicker anymore.
What LED bulbs are you using in those tail lights? Most of what I find seem like they'll be too bright.
And when are the 28-29ers going to get their drum style tail lights back? They and the 26-27 Model T have been on back order for years. Thank you and get well soon!
I am using incandescent bulbs in the tail lights. Call Erich at Mike's A-Fordable parts about the 28/29 drums.
Paul, do you have a link to the LED headlight bulbs in this video? I'm looking to upgrade the bulbs in the '31 I'm getting from my grandfather. Currently, I'm not planning on driving it at night. However, I know it is bound to happen a few times. I'm not looking to break the bank on bulbs that will rarely get used.
They are the LogoLites pre-focused ones- www.logolites.com/products/led-headlights-and-bulbs/led-headlights/focused-beam-led-headlights/
Can you run the turn signal wires to lights in the front bumper instead of the cowl lights?
Yes. That's how I did it on my sport coupe.
@@ModelA perfect. Thanks Paul!
Paul , why don't you paint your alternator black? That way it would not stick out like a sore thumb.
Why don't I clean out the rain gutters? Why don't I mow the lawn? I dunno.
Paul, I rewired my 29 Tudor and I have trouble with the conduit for the headlights.
What is the trouble?
@@ModelA I try to connect the conduit to the headlight pigtail and it doesn't want to go into place without fighting me hard. Also, one of the lens clamps is very difficult to fasten
I have tried a couple of pigtails and conduit sets and it seems the same either way. When I saw you do it, it almost fell together. Any suggestions?
I use all original hardware. Some of the repro hardware is the wrong size, and it will fight you. Call up Steve Becker at Bert's Model A center (tell him I sent you) and ask for some original ones. They just fall together.
@@ModelA thanks
Can you possibly send a link for the trunk on Gandalf?
It came off a car I bought about 20 years ago. I don't think they still make metal ones like that.
@@ModelA This video could not have come out at a better time. I will be replacing the harness in 'Darla' My 1929 Model A. I purchased the harness from Snyder's and got it with the cowl light wiring even though I don't have the cowl lights, will use them for the parking lights in my TwoLite buckets. As always great to see a very informative video on the Model A.
What is the link to the pump for tires cant find it.
Here's a short link- amzn.to/3QePjd0
Whats a good price for a Ford Model A for sale online?
That's not an easy question. This video will help- th-cam.com/video/zWzHRJ7UFkQ/w-d-xo.html
Also are you going to put a overdrive in Gandalf?
@@Jaiden-ie5kd nope
He's a trick. I've tried to get Project Farm to test it out to see how my trick affects the glue strength. What I've found is that, you can apply epoxy to one side and super glue to the other. They'll have a chemical reaction and set almost instantly.
CA glues set almost immediately in the presence of about any kind of moisture. The CA accelerator is just moisture that fully evaporates and doesn't leave much residue.
@@ModelA what I don't know is how it affects the bond of the glues. I discovered this when I needed to glue something with epoxy but didn't have a good way to clamp it.
I suspect it makes a weaker epoxy bond
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You should have made the brake lights the red ones.
From the factory, the Model A brake lights were the top ones. The bottom ones aren't very bright, like me.
Gandalf looks better with thaat trunk on the back.
Think so? Should I leave it there? If you say so, I will!
@@ModelA I do think so, unless you can find a more period correct trunk, But it fills in the back of the car nicely. I'd say keep it.
OK, will do! I have another trunk, but it's too big. I could cut it down, but don't want to.
Маленькие неприятности. Я имею в виду мышей. В 1943 году накануне Курской битвы мыши погрызли провода в немецких танках, чем немного помогли советским войскам. Пол, может быть, ты тоже собрался воевать с русскими?
A little trouble. I mean the mice. In 1943, on the eve of the Battle of Kursk, mice gnawed wiring in German tanks, which helped the Soviet troops a little. Paul, maybe you're going to fight the Russians too?
Эти мыши были в российских платежных ведомостях, как и семья Байденов??
Eti myshi byli v rossiyskikh platezhnykh vedomostyakh, kak i sem'ya Biden??
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Paul, be careful that your liability for shipping your car in a container is insured, maritime laws are tricky.
Definitely! I know a guy...