I get a little emotional during this one...
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Matthew walks around the office, shows off cool stuff, and then gets a little emotional. Just another day at MiniWarGaming!
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I wanted to say thanks Matt for highlighting the hazards of working with resin, and I would love to see a full video on it, as I think that point needs to be driven home at every possible opportunity.
I met someone at a convention who makes custom dice sets for a living, and he says it's astounding how many people with 3D resin printers just don't seem to realize how obscenely toxic liquid resin is. And like you pointed out in this video, that's not something he said out of scare tactics. To paraphrase him: "You can absolutely do stuff like this if you want to, but understand; I do this for a living, and I have full PPE gear, a garage separate from my house to work in, and that's fitted with an air extraction system certified for a building 4 times its size. That's the MINIMUM kind of commitment you need if you want to work with this stuff safely."
A big reason people don't talk about it is that when you do, people get personally offended at the idea of safety. They'll tell you they don't care, it's not a big deal, you're just fearmongering. And it's impossible to talk about safety with resin printers without these people ruining any discussion. God forbid you tell them not to put that toxic printer in their hobby room where they paint their minis. That's when they really start to get nasty. Any kind of safety advice is treated as a personal attack. So most sensible people just take the precautions themselves and shut up.
I complained to my brother a few times because he was printing in the house. He finally stopped. Not sure why, but it's a relief not breathing that shit in anymore. He switched to filament, which is much less offensive to live around.
Matt - just want to say I appreciate you and can relate as a dad that enjoys ridiculous games myself. You provide inspiration and you connect to so many people that you don't even know. Take care
Yes, Jon Bernthal and Deborah Ann Woll, his costar on the Punisher show. I saw that too and it was great. I like both of them. She's like we just played D&D; just because you don't literally roll dice or have a character sheet. I have a college friend who described a coworker he had 30 some years ago. They worked on a college campus, a maintenance kind of job, as a team. So just spent their entire day walking around campus doing maintenance stuff together. My friend kept a pair of 2d10s in his pocket and they would role-play, not D&D specifically, I don't know what rule set (obviously d100, probably the original Warhammer Fantasy RPG v1 or v2) and they would just 1v1 tell stories and roll dice all through the work day.
Narrative campaign are the best of all and when you (Matt) are the DM, its just awsome!!! Filming little cinematic intro/outro etc... And item generator for your next Deathwatch is a good thing ;) just do an old kindda one like Apothis and its gonna be a hit !!! Love you MWG!!! keep up the good work!
Thanks! They’re a lot of work but quite fulfilling.
That segment about Resin printing VS FDM printing actually was something I didn't know as someone considering getting into 3d printing. And like, obviously everyone I watched said to wear protective gear, but I figured it was more of a precaution than an actual requirement. And that knowledge has probably pushed me more towards an FDM printer for my first time over a resin printer.
I personally would love to see a video on 3d printing from you guys, especially if it covered the pros and cons of FDM vs Resin.
For Resin printing the key things are:
Nitrile N95 gloves
A proper mask (again, there are recommended standards, what I prefer to vouch for are proper masks with proper refillable charcoal filters. Yes, the filters make it an $8 upcharge, nobody cares because your lung and brains matter a whole lot more than an $8 subscription every few months)
A proper pair of goggles
Preferably anywhere you MIGHT get resin on your skin (such as on the underside of your arm) try and wear SOMETHING
Do not be in the room while it prints
Make sure the area it is in is well ventilated and/or has a vacuum going outside
and that's about it.
If you just have 1 or 2 Resin printers, in a room that has an open window, then print as much as you want, but I'd recommend letting air out for at least 24 hours before "inhabiting" the space, and the smell will stick around for over a week.
The problem is, when you have what appears to be 28 resin printers in 1 room, with a man having to perform maintenance or work on the resin printers in there, even with proper ventilation, that man ABSOLUTELY needs every bit of PPE he can get.
I would HIGHLY recommend starting off with FDM printing, and so long as you stick to the more regular filaments (such as PLA), you should be perfectly fine to print, and even inhabit the room it is in. The prints are lighter, cheaper, less consumables are used, easier to do, less effort, and far more durable, in exchange for less detail, but with newer printers even that "less detail" doesn't seem to matter much anymore.
Note: There are a LOT of TH-camrs who often times show themselves not wearing PPE while doing a video with an active resin printer, or handling resin products. The vast majority of these TH-camrs have acknowledged, multiple times to their audiences that what they're doing is highly inadvisable, however, it's kind of hard to talk and be heard clearly with a mask on during a video, and it also is a mood killer if every time they do a video with resin printing, they have to take a brief pause to address the issue. I disagree with what they've done, but it is what it is.
Source: a sauced up boyo who's been doing FDM printing for 10+ years and Resin for 5+ years, but has done practically 0 resin printing over the past 3 years because of how much of a hassle it is, and how dangerous it is to the human ecosystem (and even just literally nature)
Take care of that stress, Matthew. Glad you got to remind yourself whats cool about all this! Agreed, its stories.
Yes. I’d like to see that video on resin printing. I think I’m careful but I’d like to hear more on safety for printing.
Really like the idea of a series on 3d printing and safety aspects. I feel like not nearly enough attention is paid to this in most of the TH-cam sphere.
I've always dipped into narrative games but the Last 100 really griped me and got me to become a vault member. I've been binging that, Yogvir and Tor, Space Cops and now Fate's Encore and i love what you guys do - you really highlight how creative you can be with just 'playing a game' its almost roleplay like sometimes.
Btw, where can i by an ork for the Next 100, i would love to support you guys more and have a little guy get eviserated in the grim darkness of the 41st millenia
It’s pretty exciting when you see your stuff out there. I sold my first terrain in my cult3D store and it brought me tears. All that hard work starting to pay off.
OMG I felt the same way. This was the most wholesome minute of my life. DND is what is keeping me alive, mentally and physically...
Some things to add to resin printing. Min air replacement per printer, what hepa really is, types of clean rooms by category.
A grateful working example would be start out with second hand smoke, then show what a scented candles do.
Also fdm needs filtration as well. Plastic will float in the air. A diy is a box fan, 22 by 22 inch filter (sorry I only know freedom units 😉) and some painters tape. To be honest with all the gunk in the air I have been doing the diy long before the printing.
Much luv to all the MWG gang.
I recently bought a resin printer. Did a ton of research and realized that I was not prepared safety wise. I've got an enclosed tent in my garage with ventilation going outside, as well at the regular mask and gloves. 3D printing is awesome but I really didn't realize the dangers of resin.
Agreed! Not enough people realize this.
I have a well ventilated airbrush room that now doubles as a 3d printing room. The gloves I use for painting are insufficient for handling and cleaning the prints. Got some 6 mil gloves that do much better but I might try 8 next time. What do you guys use?
Gas mask, thick rubber gloves only printing on the porch/balcony when the weather is fine while treating the substance and everything it touches like a dangerous virus or toxin - All that‘s missing is the hazmad suit.
I‘ve exchanged the isopropanol alcohol with a specialized cleaning fluid which apparently isn’t hazardous, we‘ll see, the resin is plant based (still as toxic as other resins due to the chemicals that make it photo sensitive)
We were kind of shocked when a student from our club told us he printed in his bedroom without ventilation. It was really hard for us to make him take this seriously
@@miniwargaming would love to hear the gear you use for PPE when working with resin
I pay someone else to take the risks for me. usually its people who are already versed and prepared to handle it. my place is pretty big, but its shared. I don't have a place to print so i'm fine not doing it myself and just getting minis for a good price from someone else instead.
Matt: I can only be in here a couple seconds... (stays for a full minute) :D
It needs to be said about safety. They've been out for a while, and I'm sure there were many living in apartments who think simply opening a window is fine. Even if one of these printers say its fine for indoor use, and not resin, I wouldn't. This is serious respiratory aggravation if not done with preparation. I can see many who buy a 3D printer, maybe not even savvy with woodworking or anything similar. Just, I want to print a cool demon. I plug it in and the STL makes it go.
With that said, how many are even aware and handle already printed minis properly? Few and far between. How many understand how bad receipt paper is? Do not put it in your mouth and wash your hand after touching. It's toxic as hell.
It isn't that difficult to run a vent hose to the window and set up an extractor fan. There are ways to do it.
Great video Matt. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 💜
Thanks! :)
I'm curious about all this 3D printing and resin risk stuff.
I do some at home, but only use water-washable resin because it's much more easier to handle and doesn't smell much at all. I'm wondering how it compares to regular resin on the safety front. Because outside of smelling nearly nothing and not needing alcohol to clean prints, I'm not sure how much safer it is in the end!
If that comparison could be brought up in a future video about safety with resin, that would be great!
im super hyped about the first things on your whiteboard i cant wait. yeah dnd is amazing!!! i also cant wait to see my longfang in the upcoming campaign
Look forward to the video on 3d printing at home. Been doing it for years and my safety standards have kept going up. Everything is in enclosures with constant venting outside, full facemask with dual carbon filters that I change monthly, always glove up and a uv light to clean the area should there be any spills along with an air quality detector to let me know if I need to open the windows for a while. Don't think there is much else I could be doing but always good to hear more details, particularly from someone who does it as a business.
I was initially going to hold off because I thought the physical orders would need to ship from the UK (and be expensive and take forever) but hearing it is coming from you guys is a done deal.
I’m glad that it changed your mind!
Assembling resin-miniatures is also pretty dangerous unless they come cut from the supports and no visible moldlines, so I avoid that hazardous material as much as possible.
Definitely. There are a lot of nuances that people don’t understand.
I would greatly appreciate a more in-depth series on 3D printing. Gotten into resin printing myself and it's easy to get overwhelmed by the sheer amount of sometimes conflicting information about it. I try to take precautions and ventilate and wear gloves and all, but I'm sure there's something I'm missing. Recycling alcohol and making sure I'm safely disposing of all the waste is something I would especially love to see in detail.
We all need some place to go away to. Some place we can be the people we should've been instead of the people we've become. Some safe place where we can escape.
I have a Saturn 4 Ultra as well at home, I have mine outside in a shed that I ran electrical to and I STILL wear a mask and stuff just in case, that being said You still won't get the amount of detail from Resin printing on a FDM printer and there are some REALLY good FDM's out there in terms of detail.
I planning to stop by and visit the store with my family next week. Just finalizing the plans.
id love to see a DnD style campaign with all the roll playing a cast of players but with war gaming combat!
Matt is getting sentimental, while I'm just getting mental.
Jeez, I remember John from back in the day, still wearing the same hat. ;-)😂
I miss you in the Battle Reports Matt. Back when you had the slogan "We play and call it work", you and Dave always played 40k I think. Nothing against all the other employees but it would be cool to see you play another 40k game, maybe with Custodes.
The only feeling allowed to be felt by men is national/football club pride and hunger.
Matt, you keep saying you need to get in shape, but round *is* a shape..
from a fellow.. rotund middle aged wargamer
Would you ever consider recording your dnd sessions and posting them? Would love to check it out
id be so down for the saftey printing video
Completely agree with "do not 3D print miniatures at home." I work in industrial automation, and what most people don't realize is resin 3D printing is literally micro-manufacturing. Manufacturers have countless safety processes to mitigate the risks of using harmful cancer causing chemicals, and they don't always get it right. What does some wargamer know that billion dollar companies don't?
I really enjoy your narrative campaigns. Awesome to hear, that you guys have more of them in the pipeline. Question: Would you consider doing a narrative campaign set in the Horus Heresy/Age of Darkness game? I think the Horus heresy would be a great setting for narrative campaigns and I really would like to see what you guys would come up with.
Definitely! It's only a matter of time. :)
For one of your reports, Matt, you should codplay as Harold from the Red Green Show. Would be hysterical.
Please DO the resin safety video. This topic is really not well covered, manufacturer ignore the problem, influencers are usually very discreet (I understand why and don't blame them) and so few resources are available when you want to learn more about what is really needed. It's sad to see so many people printing resin in their dining room with kids running around....
When we were kids (late 80s, early 90s) and got thrown out by our parents for being stuck inside all day playing roleplaying games (not D&D but other titles), well, well kept playing, one took on the role of game master and just opened up a premise and a narrative and off we where, climbing around on the playgrounds and what not while still bouncing that narrative back and forth, so you see this, hear that, smell some thing, what do you do? Do I have this, do I know how to do do that? Yes, no, well you try, yeah, you've been doing that your whole life and so on and on.. Roleplaying, it's not the published books, not the developed setting, not even the random number generators, it's the creative interaction between the participants as they try to entertain each other, because that's what it is all about, to entertain each other.
Would love to see a video about 3D printing. Whether its a safety video, or even some guides on how to setup and do prints, I would love it. I have a Photon Mono thats been sitting in my basement for a few years because I read into the safety details and hazard details on resin printing.
Noted. It’s definitely on my to do list.
I would love to play Warhammer 40k with any staff members you have! Your team is Awesome! My nephew and I would love to learn good statagy with your very experienced team! Keep making Awesome video content, your team has like a great family feel to it!
Hope they do a XL version for Ork players 😂
I yearn for it
Just buy 5! Or maybe 10? ;)
@@miniwargaming That Way Madness lies
The 3D printing video does sound interesting,
It’s been something I’ve been meaning to do for a while. Just gotta find the time…
@@miniwargaming That's the trick isn't it the older we get the less time there seems to be. 😁
ive loved these guys since i lived in canada, got a warmachine and horde starter set from them eons ago.
so gad to see them still going, making incredible content for the community.
can tell you i have spent too much time watching battlereports XD
have made several of my own games over the years, all for just me and my friends but still seeing the wargame miniwargaming mae years and years ago that sci-fi one i have wanted to make my own minatures game.. not to be succesful or the next GW just to make it.
wokring on one at the moment which im hoping will be the absolute tits XD
Love the Retro shirt
Looking great! What kind of shelves are you using for your Bambu printers? Thanks!
Wire shelving from uline
A safety video would be useful. I'm sure I'm cutting corners.
Funnily enough I backed the rapid-fire dice box like 30 minutes ago!
Awesome! Thanks so much!
For those of you thinking about 3D printing with resin: nitrile gloves, N95-certified respirator (recommend you go full face because resin will ping off and slap you in the face), cover as much skin as you can, and DO NOT DO IT IN YOUR DOMICILE. Either in a well-ventilated garage, or a shed where you can leave the door open and let air flow.
And also a good idea to have a meter measuring the volatiles nearby.
Agreed! :)
take care Matt
70 Canadian $ seems too high for tge physical order
Yogvir and Tor season 2?!?!?!
I remember WAAAAAAAAGH batrep
Ricky is obviously a Krieg Player.
ima dirty tau player XD
Dice box looks nice. Does it work well with GW dice?
Also Matt how is the grand narrative massive Tyranid force going?
Adding another question. Are you planning to do any movement trays for other non GW games. i've been looking for a movement tray for Conquest Last argument of kings. Mainly just need something to take 3 stands in a line. would really help in movement and wheels.
Can you please ask LSG what is going on with their board game kickstarters?
Stormsunder and Lavon rising.
You chose to work with them. Please give us some info 😢
I am an Analytical Chemist - i took one look at the requirements for resin printing and immediately removed it as an option, its true my Bambu x1 (0.2 nozzle) doesnt do great small minis.. ive had quite a few stls that just wont come out right but i improvise (mostly overscaling them :P ) and still have way tooo much stuff overflowing my display cases/workroom.... THANKYOU for showing everyone the safe working conditions resin requires.
Yeah… this sort of product bombs the moment you realize the dice results are horrible compared to the way you used to roll them bones.
Its just for counting dice, you still roll them.
This will make no sense to you, but its time for the next generation to take over the mantle of mini wargaming. You can do it or someone else will eventually take it! No disrespect, I hope the best for all of you.
Wait, I can commission you guys to print an STL? Because I have some terrain STL's I have been dying to print but my printer isn't as good quality for it.
Sure! Just email support@miniwargaming.com and we’ll work out pricing for you.
Weird question perhaps, but do you think kids are as into stories as we are? Like, participatory storytelling, shared narratives? I get a feeling that wargames and RPGs are mainly a thing for people over 30, or even older. People who grew up playing outside completely in the analogue domain. Or who played RPGs around a table. With nothing more than their imaginations (and perhaps some minis) to make up their games. All the kids I see in the 12-20 range are only on screens. I don't know if they're as creative or imaginative as kids used to be. Or as interested in sharing or contributing to stories or narrative play. Maybe that's just me being an old man yelling at the clouds (I'm mid-40s). But how do you see wargames and RPGs resonating with younger folks?
They definitely resonate, although kids will tend to power game more often as they see that as the most fun way to play (that’s what I was like as a kid).
As we get older we realize that flawed characters are more interesting.
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but do you really roll? it looks like you just drop them in. in that case how to do stop cheating?
Posts like this make me just hate this channel. Such a shame.
Clickbait titles and thumbnails with the aim of selling a product always make me tear up, so I completely understand.
Me too! :)