Dio Dream Evil : Is this a Dark Horse album?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2025
- Rock Daydream Nation is joined by Peter Jones (The Contrarians) where we do a deep dive into DIO and the fourth album "Dream Evil" (1987). Is this a Dark Horse album in the DIO catalogue?
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Update to one of my comments. I said that I first meet Vinny Appice at a drum clinic on the "Sacred Heart" tour. It was in fact just prior to the Donington show in 1987. He was a bit pissed that Bon Jovi was the headliner and I will never forget his quote "I can't wait to eat Tico Torres (drummer of Bon Jovi) for lunch!". I should have remembered that during the show.
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I’ve always enjoyed this particular platter and purchased it - on vinyl - when it first came out in 1987. “All the Fools Sailed Away” has always been my favorite song on the record.
I didn’t mind the fact that there were more keyboards on display throughout the album. Elf had a keyboard player, as did Rainbow, and Sabbath used them in a more subtle manner. It was Ronnie’s band this time around, so the decision was almost entirely up to him. Let’s face facts, all musicians want to sell records and make money. Keyboards were involved with every album Dio had ever made and they provided an extra hook to entice listeners. Ronnie’s first so-called solo hit had a synth line that was a total ear worm. With that song, “Rainbow in the Dark,” Dio thought it was “too twee and pop-sounding” and wanted to exclude it from the album. It was the band that convinced him to include it on Holy Diver and voila! Jimmy Bain’s simple, yet catchy keyboard line, helped to propel the single - and video - up the charts.
Personally, I think that tune’s popularity helped to make Dio’s Holy Diver release their biggest selling album. In the US, the record reached double platinum status in sales. No other Dio release attained such lofty heights. Ronnie wanted to move units - and merch - to compete with the big boys. Especially Black Sabbath. And after the Dio fronted version of Sabbath imploded, Ronnie was the true victor.
Dio - the band - outsold Sabbath for the rest of the decade. Ronnie played bigger venues, moved more product, had bigger video airplay and even spearheaded the Hear N’ Aid project. He became one of the main faces of The Heavy Metal Movement in the 1980s. Ronnie and Wendy knew how to play the game and did it extremely well. Having the clout of Warner Brothers Records behind them was also a huge asset.
Throughout the eighties, Dio’s fortunes prospered as Iommi and Sabbath’s success waned. As we all know, the nineties brought a new sound that soon had Ronnie in the same position as Tony. The inevitable reunion happened, but that’s another torrid tale of woe for another time.
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Every album sold progressively worse starting with holy diver. He arguably peaked at his first album. From a commercial standpoint.
Sacred heart was the last album to be certified, and he was playing to half empty arenas on dream evil.
Ronnie was simply living off his past legacy and the first two albums by this point..
Also, he was half-heartedly into going commercial, so it didn't make sense for him to be that upset over not being as big as Bon Jovi or Def Leppard, when he stubbornly refused to get a big name producer like Bob Rock or Michael Wagner in there to commercialize his sound.
He produced his own albums and simply the music just was not as culturally relevant as the bands that were huge at the time.
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This has always been my favorite DIO album. I was a fan of Dio from the Holy Diver album but when I got Dream Evil there was something about the melodic sensibilities Craig Goldy brought to the band that I felt really did the band a service. Glad to see this album getting some long overdue respect. Overlove and Sunset Superman are probably my 2 favorite cuts on here
This is my favourite Dio album. I love Holy Diver and Last in Line, but there’s an epicness and darkness to Dream Evil that brings it to the top of my list. Craig Goldy’s playing on this album is fantastic and far above everything that he subsequently did with Dio.
Definite a lot of darkness🤘
I have always loved the song All the fools sailed away-lyrically and musically.
The first two albums get all the attention but there was so much good stuff after them. Dream Evil is great, my personal favorite is Strange Highways from 1993, another dark horse album but I think it's incredible.
The first two DIO-albums will always tower over DIO's legacy, but Sacred Heart and Dream Evil were worthy successors with a string of classic songs on both of them. Lock Up The Wolves was okay, but the magic had gone by then.
Hands down top Dio album for me and for 1987 Dio and company stayed true to their metal roots for this album and delivered a solid and melodic album sunset superman is among my top favorite Dio songs of all time
It’s top tier...and holds up so well in 2024...not dated at all...
Dream Evil absolutely stands side by side with the first two releases. I dare not state that it's equally as good, but it also isn't that far behind. Sacred Heart was the drop in quality. It's not a bad album, but it certainly wasn't in the same league with HD and TLIL. With Dream Evil, they brought in some fresh new elements while still trying to stay true to the core identity of the band. The overall production isn't the album's strongest point, though. I've always felt that the tone of this album is kind of dark and dreamy, sinister and deeply emotional, maybe not reaching the same level of heavier aggression as before, but on the other hand, it just builds up the album's character. I see this album as a consistent step in the evolution of the band. It already showed some signs that eventually led us further down the darker, heavier, and even doomier path with LUTW and SH. And those two are really a couple of underrated albums, if any.
This album is the most Rainbow sounding Dio lp to me and I love it. This is what I envisioned what would have happened if Ronnie and Ritchie had stayed together.
Interesting view - you might be right. There is some Rainbow sound in it.
Such an enjoyable episode, but I do also enjoy being a contrarian. As Peter & Pete were discussing the hair band era a bit dismissively, I went on Discogs and ordered a CD by Pretty Boy Floyd. No need to order any Dio titles, I have had them all for decades now.
My favorite Dio album! Maybe because it was my introduction to Dio, but even now after some decades it sounds cool. I reach out to it regularly. Night People - you're right Pete, not a perfect opener, but it has a drive; I complain about the fade out at the end, very fast sudden and non professional, sounds like they were getting out of tape.
My favorite songs are Dream Evil, Sunset Superman, All the Fools Sailed Away, Faces In the Window
You guys have inspired me to listen to the Dream Evil again. I saw Dio with Viv three times. Of all the Dio guitarists,Graig Goldy has the necessary inflections of Ritchie Blackmore. The intro to ‘All The Fools Sailed Away’ and it’s there too on ‘Magica’. I recently bought Finding The Sacred Heart dvd and thought Craig had a presence all of his own. ‘Naked In The Rain’, ‘Dream Evil’, ‘Sunset Superman’ were my favourites. I must blast the Donington ‘87 CD too. I did like the Scotty Moore-esque intro to ‘Overlove’,not dissimilar to the feel of Van Halen’s Hot For Teacher. I have no qualms with Scott Warren Keyboard presence. Scott Warren got the gig with Heaven And Hell too,albeit behind a curtain. Scott nailed the intros to Tarot Woman & Gates Of Babylon from what I’ve seen on the dvd from the London Astoria. I would be interested how Pete Jones rates Vinny Appice vs Simon Wright?
Hello. I will say this as clear as I can. Vinny Appice is one of my all-time favorite hard rock/metal drummers. His feels, power, sound and style are just endlessly inspiring and enjoyable. From the opening of the "Mob Rules" album and especially "Live Evil", I instantly fell in love with his playing. While I think him a solid player, Simon doesn't do much for me personally. I think his feel is much more linear and doesn't have any "swing" to it at all. His feel is "squarer" and more angular. I don't care for his playing at all on the tracks that Vinny recorded. They are just two very different players.
My ranking of the Dio (band) albums is almost in the order that they were released;
1. Holy Diver
2. The Last In Line
3. Dream Evil
4. Strange Highways
5. Lock Up The Wolves
I loved Dream Evil when it came out and still do. All The Fools Sailed Away is not only one of my favorite Dio songs, but it’s up there as one of my favorites of his career.
Saw dio at Donington 87 and the sun came out when they opened with dream evil... Awesome performance sandwiched between a poor sound Metallica and headliners bon jovi
He was magic
Maybe & Lock up the Wolves certainly is.
thanks for the comment. Lock up would certainly be in the mix.
Dream Evil is a top5 DIO, and my contrarian choice would include Magica as well.
Wish we got more than just the 3 DIO albums with Goldy \m/
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Total Dark Horse, I only heard this for the first time around 3 years ago, amazing album far better than Sacred Heart. I stopped following Dio after that album, as I was being bitten by the Thrash bug and losing Vivian Campbell didn't help either.
Massive step up JayJay from Sacred Heart which kinda plods along...(I stepped off the dio train after dream Evil simply because I got distracted by other sounds out there)
Its a big album for me in his Discography. Love my promo copy i picked up somewhere.
Still sounds great to me.
I guess its not a popular choice. So Dark Horse, Yes!.
Not a bad album, but the word 'flat' comes to my mind most when thinking about the record. It has some nice songs, my favourites are 'Night People' and 'All the Fools Sailed Away,' but otherwise it feels a little lackluster.
Rainbow 🌈 in the dark with out Blackmore
Decent album. No where near Ronnies best, though. Those would be Holy Diver and Last in line . Strange Highways and Sacred Heart i like better also
The beginning of the end starting with this subpar album
When i first heard the chorus of Sunset Superman i instantly thought of Spinal Tap. It's such a parody-like chorus.
Perhaps intentional. Ronnie was no dope.
Not hearing the Spinal Tap in this song at all.
@@Skycladatdusk78 Love Ronnie but the chorus of him singing Sunset Superman sounds a bit silly to me. Like a spoof metal song lyric.
So maybe not literally like Spinal Tap .
@@daanthing6002 I think it works well with the theme of the song, how after dark as you transition into the dream state you become someone different, sometimes powerful like a superman. Sometimes you're a bit more vulnerable, hence the line "When you wake up in the morning, were you screaming". "The night has a thousand eyes, but it moves in only places the eyes can never see", I love that particular line. No references to big bottoms, sex farms or tonight he's gonna rock you tonight. 😉
When i first heard the chorus of Sunset Superman i instantly thought of Spinal Tap. It's such a parody-like chorus.