Bigsby vs. Floyd Rose vs. Floating & More: 7 Tremolo Systems Explained

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  • Tremolo systems have been around for roughly a century now, and throughout all of those years, countless innovations have been made to better optimize the design and function of the effect. In the video above, Andy Martin takes a look at some of today's modern tremolo options.
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    0:00 - Intro
    0:35 - Fender Synchronized
    2:50 - Bigsby
    4:10 - Maestro Vibrola
    5:05 - Jazzmaster
    6:32 - Floyd Rose
    7:55 - Kahler
    9:00 - Stetsbar
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  • @Kylora2112
    @Kylora2112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1213

    Gibson and Bigsby in the 50s: "Sure, we don't have the range of vibrato as a Fender, but we don't stay in tune as well, either!"

    • @Madmanmarque
      @Madmanmarque 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      If a Bigsby doesn't stay in tune, it's not set up correctly!

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      @@Madmanmarque Bigsbys suck less than anything Gibson's come out with, but for playability (whammy range and tuning stability) of what I have experience with (not aesthetics or "tone"): Floyd > Kahler > Fender 2 point > Hipshot > Fender 6 point > PRS > Wilkinson > Jazzmaster > Bigsby >>>> Gibson's abominations.

    • @dcp10200
      @dcp10200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@Kylora2112Or just don't have a Trem at all and lock it down with an Evertune

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      @@dcp10200 But how can I make up for my mediocre guitar playing without divebombs and harmonic screams?

    • @Jerryleedlelee
      @Jerryleedlelee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      A properly set up bigsby will definitely stay in tune, just can’t dive-bomb them

  • @joermnyc
    @joermnyc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1198

    Leo Fender called the tremolo circuit on his amps “Vibrato” and the vibrato bridge “tremolo.”

    • @Madmanmarque
      @Madmanmarque 4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      Must not have had a dictionary back in the 50's.

    • @squirelova1815
      @squirelova1815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Yeah...those Germans are truly industrious, tireless workers but they apparently are very loose with
      Italian, aren't they? Leo Fender lost an eye as a youngster and still managed to build guitars and amps by hand himself at first and kept on working while feverish with severe sinus infections later on. I will never forget that and how very difficult it is to convert a guitar signal into a musical note through an amp's electronics; "Preternatural talent" is how Leo's colleagues describe his amp circuits.

    • @serge_makes_noise
      @serge_makes_noise 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I guess that's what happens when you make an iconic guitar, but don't know how to play.😉 At least that's what I heard.

    • @AboveSomething
      @AboveSomething 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      that's a BIG BRAIN move if i've ever seen one..

    • @chriskucholtz6967
      @chriskucholtz6967 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Huge peepee

  • @austinsadler1403
    @austinsadler1403 4 ปีที่แล้ว +674

    "You'll probably want a pro setup with a vibrola to make sure you stay in tune" is a very kind way to say "this thing has never even heard of tuning stability."

    • @xophersmith
      @xophersmith 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yes, Andy has a certain twinkle in his eye as he says that.

    • @dynamilla8534
      @dynamilla8534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Say that to my 64' Melody Maker D

    • @fretboardrunner
      @fretboardrunner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Has Gibson ever built anything that stays in tune... at all?

    • @duduychony9747
      @duduychony9747 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/Z0KkinvXWF4/w-d-xo.html
      You don’t need a floyd rose hahah

    • @snwhhwwhwaja1171
      @snwhhwwhwaja1171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@duduychony9747 dude you commented this everywhere

  • @trialbystone2532
    @trialbystone2532 4 ปีที่แล้ว +755

    I keep forgetting Andy doesn't play with a pick and every time I rediscover he doesn't it's like :O

    • @iganpparamarta8813
      @iganpparamarta8813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Legend has it Andy never gets the guitar pick meme to this day.

    • @truckerkevthepaidtourist
      @truckerkevthepaidtourist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I believe there are a couple of the old proguitarshop videos where he did use a pic on certain application of playing..

    • @skaterocker666
      @skaterocker666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He has a sick right hand technique

    • @potassiumchloride2542
      @potassiumchloride2542 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      No Picc = *EPICC*

    • @Thurston86
      @Thurston86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      “It looks like he’s using a Invisible Pick!” I keep seeing that comment and it always makes me laugh because at times it really does look like that!

  • @thenonebadh
    @thenonebadh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +391

    the jazzmaster vibrato has a locksystem for broken strings too...

    • @aldente42092
      @aldente42092 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Not all of them. The cheaper models don't

    • @sambolino44
      @sambolino44 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@aldente42092 The one he demonstrated did.

    • @aldente42092
      @aldente42092 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@sambolino44 that's true, I'm just saying the majority of new jazzmasters don't

    • @thenonebadh
      @thenonebadh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Avrage Joe its ment to be played with fat flatwound string(12s). and the jazzmaster was build for jazzplayers of the time, not for rock or surf. in a way youre right: outside of the jazz context the brigde is awful.

    • @sambolino44
      @sambolino44 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Avrage Joe True, but irrelevant. Did you mean to post this somewhere else? Besides, haven't you heard about Mustang saddles? Think you better slow your comments down!

  • @06Crf250rider
    @06Crf250rider 4 ปีที่แล้ว +523

    Wow this guy must never use a pick to be that good without one.

    • @THEQueeferSutherland
      @THEQueeferSutherland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      I see you are new to the world of Andy. He is notoriously a non-pick user, though you do rarely see one in his hands, it's like spotting Bigfoot.

    • @dvdrtrgn
      @dvdrtrgn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Imagine what he could do with a pick. Golly

    • @nicksalvatore5717
      @nicksalvatore5717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@dvdrtrgn Probably less. It's like asking a regular guitar player to try to play like him. I'm sure he can still play amazing things with a pick though

    • @ricardorodriguez5549
      @ricardorodriguez5549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s boss: tasty and smart

    • @lord_beethoven1169
      @lord_beethoven1169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      A lot of guitar players don’t use a pick. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

  • @metalinyourhead3604
    @metalinyourhead3604 4 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    Yes! Someone finally mentioned Kahler! Sadly they don’t come stock on any guitars besides custom shop.

    • @realrussianmeesha
      @realrussianmeesha 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They was stock on a lot of guitars back in 80's ... Iirr some charvel models, just Google it

    • @MrPablo616
      @MrPablo616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Been using a Khaler trem for 20 plus years, love it. Rock solid.

    • @michaelczesnozki1671
      @michaelczesnozki1671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Actually they do. Jeff Hannemen ESP LTD, the G&L Rampage Tribute, early 2000's B.C. Rich KKV's, ESP LTD Glenn Tipton, and plenty of guitars from the 80's.

    • @ravenglenn6473
      @ravenglenn6473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      David gilmour almost put one on his black strat but decided against it, or so I've heard

    • @michaelczesnozki1671
      @michaelczesnozki1671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ravenglenn6473 he did use one for a while. Google "David Gilmour Kahler" and you can find pics.

  • @SinkMan434
    @SinkMan434 4 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    8:43 wtf

    • @ardennes3016
      @ardennes3016 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      He's playing with his fingers homie YOU CANT JUDGE HIM

    • @ibnufasya6408
      @ibnufasya6408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@ardennes3016 well he shreds with his fingers that's not a thing you see everyday

    • @Alberto-ny7kf
      @Alberto-ny7kf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      he needs to make a tutorial on how to play that fast with fingers.

    • @jerry-rk7yw
      @jerry-rk7yw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alberto ; lol just play more with your fingers

    • @Alberto-ny7kf
      @Alberto-ny7kf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jerry-rk7yw i want to learn his techniques and stuff man

  • @louderthangod
    @louderthangod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Jazzmaster trem is my favorite...I just like a little surfy/MBV warble and it’s otherwise very stable plus you can pick behind it for some cool effects.

    • @napatora
      @napatora 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i love mine. and it stays in tune so well. i actually just changed my strings last night, tuned it up and set it down. when i picked it up this morning it was still just about perfect.

    • @Synthulhu
      @Synthulhu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @pizza time if you want to try out the style look into the vintage modified or j mascis signature squires. They both play great

  • @mrmimeguy
    @mrmimeguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    "How do we make this guitar more appealing to Worship Guitar players?"
    "𝘣 𝘪 𝘨 𝘴 𝘣 𝘺"

    • @kilgoretrout321
      @kilgoretrout321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Really? I don't attend church, much less a church with a live band, so I'm always interested to hear that Worship players have their own trends with gear. For instance, I bought a pedal from T1M (The Pearl dual overdrive) because of all the praise it got, and later heard that the builder is a worship guitarist, and his pedals are popular in that community. He even wrote a little Bible verse on the inside of the back plate, kind of like In-N-Out does on the bottom of their burgers and fries packaging.
      I might ask around the internet to learn more about worship bands' gear choices and trends just because I wonder what the difference is to those of secular bands.

    • @mrmimeguy
      @mrmimeguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kilgoretrout321 Yeah, worship gear is a whole culture. A few things that are popular among worship players are the strymon BigSky and TimeLine pedals, the Walrus Audio Julia, the JHS Kilt V1, the Electro-Harmonix POG2, Gretsch, Suhr, Veritas & Duesenberg guitars, etc. Worship players are somewhat notorious for having big boards and super expensive guitars. I would recommend looking up a dude on YT called David Hislop

    • @kilgoretrout321
      @kilgoretrout321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mrmimeguy wow yeah that does sound pretty expensive. But I guess faith can keep you grounded when you have enough money to buy Suhrs and Strymons. And a lot of my favorite musicians who seem preternaturally talented came out of church groups when they were young, so it's a great forum for developing chops, gaining gigging experience, and making connections

    • @christopher4443
      @christopher4443 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      2017: Bixby

    • @bluesdealer
      @bluesdealer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kilgoretrout321 yeah, for awhile, they were imitating The Edge in the early 00s. Now they’re imitating atmospheric/post-rock players. So, boutique reverbs/delays/light overdrives, and of course, the vibrato affect from a Bigsby all come in handy.

  • @stevegiannell3401
    @stevegiannell3401 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    In the 80’s, Washburn offered the “Wonderbar” that surface-mounted with no routing, had a locking block that attached above the nut with six individual locking screws, and could be used on lefty guitars. Torsion spring was very smooth with no flat spot going from flat to sharp, and each string pitch change rate could be adjusted so you could keep chords in tune as they dropped in pitch. Fine tuners were similar to Steinberg, rather than violin style. Best design, ever.

    • @CrowaX
      @CrowaX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I always wanted to try one!

    • @134SASAKI
      @134SASAKI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Made in Japan unit called Answer SHIFT2001 Argus tremolo. I believe they OEM for Washburn.

    • @aneveningwithebola2727
      @aneveningwithebola2727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Arjen Lucassen's been making use of them for years. Part of the reason I want a trem in the first place.

    • @stevegiannell3401
      @stevegiannell3401 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An Evening with Ebola, I love his work! Never really looked at his rig, but after your comment, I looked at photos and saw his Explorer and Strat both have them. Thanks for the heads-up!

    • @romeozkauba1329
      @romeozkauba1329 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had one of those, it was a white telecaster style, the tremolo worked great, and stayed in tune. but, it was HUGE and kind of uncomfortable for playing palm mutes.

  • @lance134679
    @lance134679 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I like the Les Trem, and after market trem system which only works for tunomatic bridges, but I really like it on my LP. Thanks, Andy, good information, as usual.

  • @michael_caz_nyc
    @michael_caz_nyc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Gotoh - 510 on my Suhr - it's honestly Phenomenal. Every time I play - I am so Impressed with the Tuning Stability.

    • @anthonysclafani3963
      @anthonysclafani3963 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      is the arm a pop in one like a PRS or is it a screw in arm like a Fender?

    • @michael_caz_nyc
      @michael_caz_nyc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anthonysclafani3963 It's a pop-in, but it also screws-down, and also has a set-screw with a tiny hex key. Everytime I play - I can't believe How Good it Is. I'm finally happy. Did not use the trem on my Vintage Fender Stratocaster in 14 years, I was so frustrated = (just sold it) - The Suhr is upgraded & improved in every way.

    • @MinkiMunki
      @MinkiMunki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My son has a Gotoh 510 on his Charvel and it's phenominal. All the range of a Floyd, without the hassle of locking nuts etc... It's the best I've used so far.

  • @marknason4572
    @marknason4572 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    This was great. I've always been a Bigsby guy but now I might try a Stetsbar at some point!

    • @MrMatt9793
      @MrMatt9793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you have a tele, don't. Had to shim my neck and raise the pickups an insane amount to compensate for the new string height. It works fine and the tuning stability is great, but the ridiculous pickup height and bare wood shim make it look a bit unsightly. Any other guitar is good to go

    • @chrishansen-crowley3287
      @chrishansen-crowley3287 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got one for my Gibson Explorer but could not get it to stay in tune. I found a BFG Les Paul with a factory Schaller that works well. Andy’s great video has me wanting a Jazzmaster now.

    • @rickc2102
      @rickc2102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just get a Duesenberg LesTrem.

    • @rabokarabekian409
      @rabokarabekian409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've had one Stetsbar for about 5 years. It usually will tolerate a lot of very wide swings, but it often takes a little "wiggle" at center to be completely back in tune. The installation is stupid easy even on an arched LP-style. The setup instruction MUST be followed and understood. If I don't use it for a few days it gets a little "sticky". Finally, if used wildly it may eat high e strings a lot, unless you thread the string through its "donut" once or twice. I had no luck with reinforced or with soldered wraps. The Stetsbar does look pretty steam punk, so the one guitar I have on is decorated to look like something Alice Cooper might use if too carried away.
      Different note: make sure your nut is graphtech.

    • @Mr.Goldbar
      @Mr.Goldbar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrMatt9793 too bad because I like the idea of tele with a trem

  • @pilejive69
    @pilejive69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Way to get your Shields on, Andy!! The Ultra Trem, by Vega-Trem is by far my favorite for a Strat style bridge. Retro fits perfectly & add some locking tuners...totally solid, go nuts!

  • @odyssey6684
    @odyssey6684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Andy - you’ve always made great videos and you just keep getting better and better at it. Always enjoyable to watch you, no matter what the subject.

  • @MrTDembinski
    @MrTDembinski 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Nice comparison. I’ve always liked the G&L dual fulcrum 2 point system.

  • @El_Cacto
    @El_Cacto 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Andy! I haven't seen you since I was subscribed to the ProGuitarShop channel, and now I find you here in this recommendation by TH-cam. As I was expecting, you play even more awesome than back then. You provide great information as well. Rock on!

  • @horrifyinggelatinousblob
    @horrifyinggelatinousblob 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Andy is one of the best guitarists on youtube and all he does is gear demos.

  • @watchthebeveragedude
    @watchthebeveragedude 4 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    Too bad you didnt show the duesenburg les trem

    • @AdrianTangzy
      @AdrianTangzy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That’s basically a bigsby

    • @leddeath80
      @leddeath80 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@AdrianTangzy you have no idea how much better the duesenberg trem is compared to a bigsby

    • @EpicStuffMan1000
      @EpicStuffMan1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@AdrianTangzy dusenberg trem is way more smooth and so much easier to string

    • @watchthebeveragedude
      @watchthebeveragedude 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m getting one next week. I hope it is

    • @aramil444
      @aramil444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@watchthebeveragedude it's great

  • @Ruefus
    @Ruefus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video. Each system has its niche.
    I realize that it's been out of production for an eternity, but it would have been cool to demonstrate the original Steinberger TransTrem. Not only did it give on-the-fly tuning options, entire chords stay in tune when using it. A popular example is Van Halen's Summer Nights on 5150.

  • @TanDokuDemon
    @TanDokuDemon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    That Neil Young tone for the bigsby really makes me smile

    • @andreasatlars4281
      @andreasatlars4281 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the bigsby in it itself makes anything sound like Neil Young. And that's cool.😎

  • @kabirprakash
    @kabirprakash 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video cleared every bit of doubts about tremolo design and functioning . 🙏

  • @BigWilly332
    @BigWilly332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The one guitar the dude had to show off Bigsby was an absolute beast

  • @Infinighost
    @Infinighost 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    wow, that Guild with the Bigsby looks and sounds incredible!

  • @budsodalsky
    @budsodalsky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, your fingerstyle is TREMENDOUS! That was CRAZY how you tapped individual right hand fingers to rip through those 32nd notes!

  • @faboolean7039
    @faboolean7039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Beautiful playing on that sg near the end of this video andy. What influenced you to come up with that, it sounds great

  • @JiveTalker78
    @JiveTalker78 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My 83' strat has a Free Flyte tremolo system, it's the best system I've ever used. One of the many reasons I love my 83' strat!

  • @jasonmcmillan4373
    @jasonmcmillan4373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was a great Floyd Rose demonstration. It really leaves the others in the shade IMO. And I've never heard of the Kahler or Stetsbar systems. Good video.

  • @didi_abdillah
    @didi_abdillah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    0:35 Fender Synchronized
    2:54 Bigsby Vibrato
    4:14 Maestro Vibrola
    5:08 Jazzmaster
    6:40 Floyd Rose Double Locking Floating Tremolo
    8:04 Kahler Locking Tremolo
    9:09 Stetsbar

  • @keithj8289
    @keithj8289 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, Andy! Great review. Really informative, and I loved the way you used the various trems for different musical styles. However, you didn't mention one of the best tremolos ever made ... the Falcon by Levinson. I have one on my Levinson Blade RH4 Classic and it is absolutely fantastic. The guitar feels and sounds like you're playing a hard tail, until you want to use the trem. Then you can raise or lower the pitch with the wiggle stick. Admittedly, the bridge doesn't quite fully float, but it solves all the problems that you typically get from tremolo systems. You can set up the Falcon really easily, so that you can change and tune up all 6 strings just like a hard tail. Break a string ... the others stay in tune. Change tuning .... intonation remains constant. Stability .... Always returns to perfect pitch, after raising or lowering the trem. Pitch bends .... bend a note, and you don't have to compensate for the trem system trying to slacken the strings (plus the other strings don't go out of tune). I just wish I haeld the patent lol.

  • @EricMerrow
    @EricMerrow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jazzmaster trem all the way! Great playing as always, Andy!

  • @ivannovotny4552
    @ivannovotny4552 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always a pleasure Andy.

  • @Les537
    @Les537 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That last one was interesting. I think I've tried most of the rest. The floyd stays in tune great, but it's such a huge p.i.t.a to tune and intonate. I had a bigsby on a les paul that worked great, but added more weight.
    These days the only bar I allow is the fender 2 pole thing. Nice and simple and mostly stays in tune if you know how to set it up.

  • @JMill-bs6xt
    @JMill-bs6xt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I like how with each guitar you try to play the same kind of genre of music that it was mostly used for. A lot of guitar you tubers play either metal or classic rock when demoing guitars, but at least to me it seemed like you made sure that what you were playing really fit what made those guitars famous. Like how with the strat you were playing some classic rock, the Floyd rose you were playing some metal, and then with the jazzmaster you were playing a shoegaze riff.
    I just got a jazzmaster because it’s pretty much a staple guitar for shoegaze/ dream pop players and I love the trem so far. I must say it made me really happy that you mentioned kevin shields and did a little shoegaze demo. I watched a lot of demos/ reviews for the jazzmaster and a lot of them wouldn’t include anything about that, saying that it was mainly used for surf rock, which I think is a shame as I feel like jazzmaster are just as prevalent with shoegaze players as they are with surf rock players. It’s nice to see someone who’s music tase goes beyond classic rock and metal lol. Didn’t mean to go on the tangent there I just think it’s a breath of fresh air when I see some variety on these big guitar TH-cam channels. And ya, the jazzmaster rules lol

  • @mikecurtin9831
    @mikecurtin9831 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks much for the comparisons. I've been an acoustic fingerpicker for about 40 years and haven't played a 2 x 4 for about 30, but I'm thinking about it again. Now I've got a lot better idea of what I'm looking for and why.

  • @kairinase
    @kairinase 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After watching this, I feel like putting tremolos to everything! it's so cool!

  • @robertsagan9722
    @robertsagan9722 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the few that played an alternative rock riff for the jazzmaster instead of some bluesy lick
    Thats very cool of you

  • @clicheguevara5282
    @clicheguevara5282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My favorite has always been a well setup Jazzmaster. It’s PERFECT for what I want to do.

  • @bladerunner12
    @bladerunner12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's my dream SG right there. Dark red, with the wide pickguard and Vibrola with the backplate. Everything I've ever wanted in an SG.

  • @lamontprospect9974
    @lamontprospect9974 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great demonstration on that Kahler by the way. That sounded so awesome.

  • @user-hr6tz2fr1s
    @user-hr6tz2fr1s 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    How about Trans Trem by Steinberger?

    • @nath9233
      @nath9233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Is that a vibrato that identifies as a trem?

    • @user-hr6tz2fr1s
      @user-hr6tz2fr1s 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@nath9233 Yes.

    • @heggy_69
      @heggy_69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Trans trem vs cis vibrato

    • @brianmiller1077
      @brianmiller1077 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Didn't EVH use the Trans Trem in the late 80's?

    • @user-hr6tz2fr1s
      @user-hr6tz2fr1s 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@brianmiller1077 Yes, on GL2T.

  • @arznboy
    @arznboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You missed the G&L Dual-Fulcrum® vibrato. I think that is one of a kind too.

  • @larryheller6963
    @larryheller6963 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really great overview of "tremolo" systems and by a great guitar player to boot!

  • @mrfrontranger7911
    @mrfrontranger7911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ahhhhh ! great vid Andy

  • @DomZone123
    @DomZone123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the way he shreds is so unique

  • @void_snw
    @void_snw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s the videos where they don’t play specific pedals, amps, or guitars, where the tone seems the best.. god damn that intro distortion sound is great.

  • @alexaraya2018
    @alexaraya2018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    8:44 wao very fast scale runs ...with finger tips?!?

    • @keski56
      @keski56 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ever heard of Paco de Lucia?

    • @alexaraya2018
      @alexaraya2018 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keski56 yes...he used slightly long nails, shorter than classical guitarists but he did use nails... this guy tells all about that watch?v=C_6Cdc2Zcdc

  • @Nati
    @Nati 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Duesenberg Les Trem II

  • @ivorharden
    @ivorharden 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    On my vintage style Strat bridges, I put little springs around the screws that anchors the bridge to the body. Pickup springs cut down will do the job. It helps out alot especially with locking tuners.

  • @basslinger
    @basslinger 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very timely for me, thanks!

  • @jswearengen7109
    @jswearengen7109 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was great. I would like to add the La Trem. I have one on my Reverend Charger P90, and it really adds a lot. It is a great option for any stop tail guitar, and it requires little to no modification.

  • @carolushirokisatyanegara7044
    @carolushirokisatyanegara7044 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This guy has a awesome picking technique

  • @mruncletheredge
    @mruncletheredge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One quite unique tremolo system not mentioned here is the Steinberger Trans Trem. What made it so unique was that it could dive an entire chord and still keep the chord in tune all the way down or up....

  • @rondelio8562
    @rondelio8562 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My first tremolo was a Kahler on advice from my local music shop. If I need to rock out and need some good dive bombing or vibratio use, it's my go to!! I also have a Jazzmaster trem (never use it) and the 6 screw Fender on occasion. Great, edicational video!

  • @mksounds6326
    @mksounds6326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

  • @dandelcastillo8176
    @dandelcastillo8176 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice to see the Guild STP90 getting some action. Really like that guitar.

  • @Fedethedangerous95
    @Fedethedangerous95 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Andy, I hadn't seen you play in a long time and I gotta say, I missed you man.

  • @Thomaszmccormick
    @Thomaszmccormick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And after watching Andy Martin for ten years, I finally realize that he can shred, too.

  • @Junkiescum
    @Junkiescum 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That lick on the jazzmaster was amazing 😍😍

  • @jamesprisciandaro3144
    @jamesprisciandaro3144 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Andy is a national treasure.

  • @dumbamerica
    @dumbamerica 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The two point fender strat trem (set up to float) along with locking tuners and a roller nut is hard to beat.

    • @JacksonSlayer24
      @JacksonSlayer24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Locking tuners and a rolling nut seems a little unnecessary, doesn't it?

    • @ernestochang1744
      @ernestochang1744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      hey doesnt the 2 point trem system have a knife edge? could potentially wear down in the future like a floyd rose

    • @davekiddie4467
      @davekiddie4467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@JacksonSlayer24 locking tuners are better because there is no wrap, just 3/4 turn and your in tune

    • @JacksonSlayer24
      @JacksonSlayer24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davekiddie4467 helped me realize I was thinking a locking nut

    • @MrMatt9793
      @MrMatt9793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ernestochang1744 it COULD, but likely won't unless you're beating the crap out of it for a number of years. Knife edges can also always be sharpened just like, well, a knife.

  • @Frst2nxt
    @Frst2nxt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super useful presentation

  • @EarthnikNews
    @EarthnikNews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a really great educational video. Thank you for putting this together. My only question now, is will a Stetsbar work on my Ibanez Semi-hollow body with a center sustain block? I do wonder if the block has enough support to both mount and allow the trem to function??? If there is anyone out there reading this who actually knows, please reply to this comment. Thanks everyone!

  • @megazap9986
    @megazap9986 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @chutneyferret3569
    @chutneyferret3569 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never even head of Stetsbar, I like that a lot! Thanks!

  • @Polf1001
    @Polf1001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see my boy stetsbar on the list 😀

  • @serrisdaylor1015
    @serrisdaylor1015 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd never heard of the Stetsbar! That was super neat

  • @harry_mair
    @harry_mair 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The MBV stuff made me miss them being on Spotify

  • @Gman44044
    @Gman44044 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great video! What are some of the options for Tele without routing or drilling or mods? Do the Stetsbar work with Tele?

  • @Guitarvaultusa
    @Guitarvaultusa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Surprised to see that no mention was made of the PRS and MannMade USA trems... both designed by me ;-)
    Arguably the best floating style bridge on the market.

    • @spyderlogan4992
      @spyderlogan4992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I completely, totally and utterly agree Mr.Mann. This review was for 'old school' systems, not the technically advanced ones on the PRS Guitars.

  • @zzz0...
    @zzz0... 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, Andy!

  • @katyungodly
    @katyungodly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Floyd Rose will always be the gold standard. My only beef with FR is that the individual saddles aren’t adjustable in 3D like they are on the Kahler. Just forwards and backwards.

  • @joshuatorres6143
    @joshuatorres6143 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    He didn’t use a gretsch for bigsby 😭

  • @nicksalvatore5717
    @nicksalvatore5717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used to play exclusively with my fingernail just like Andy here but I eventually went to using a pick. Every now and then I still play like I used to though, and I can almost play everything I know with both techniques. It's so rare to see someone else do it
    Edit: Holy shit I do not do that flamenco style strumming for fast scales though lol, I basically use an invisible pick 8:42

  • @1rwjwith
    @1rwjwith 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent job!

  • @josephetherton
    @josephetherton 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That song when you were playing the bigsby reminded me of Available Light by Rush. 😁👍

  • @ER_aka_RAM
    @ER_aka_RAM 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was excellent! 🤙🏽 …thx

  • @hikupmusicofficial
    @hikupmusicofficial ปีที่แล้ว

    i got a stetsbar trem on one of my guitars i love it btw they even make them for wraparound bridges too

  • @Lord_Verminaard
    @Lord_Verminaard 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I acquired an old Ibanez Rocket Roll II with a Kahler tremolo equipped, it was in poor shape and didn't function and was missing the arm, thankfully I was still able to order parts for the trem and rebuilt it, after setting it up it works like a champ, way better than any of the Floyd's I have messed with. I even removed the locking nut to put a graphtech nut on there and it stays in tune no matter how hard I dive it. I never really liked trems like that before but now I'm having a lot of fun with it.

  • @edwardbautista146
    @edwardbautista146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Next time show Babicz. Pretty underrated IMO

  • @mejoe5284
    @mejoe5284 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a kahler fan . Thanks for the video!

  • @BernardMusicPH
    @BernardMusicPH 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice demo

  • @mylesmullarney4365
    @mylesmullarney4365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The tone on the bigsby was beautiful

  • @jimzeleny7213
    @jimzeleny7213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Fender Mustang going back to 1964 has IMO one of the simplest and smoothest tremolo systems ever. If combined with a locking nut would rival the Floyd. And included on a very inexpensive guitar. I've always thought it superior to the trem available on Strats of similar vintage.

  • @SombraPiloto
    @SombraPiloto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I really wish Kahler's were more available these days. As a child of 80's hard rock/metal I grew up coveting the Kahler-equipped Carvin V220 but all I see now is the Cantrell model from G&L.

    • @user-qr7ee2cp4y
      @user-qr7ee2cp4y 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I never liked my kahler pro. I think the lack of a block effected the resonance. It di have the fixed string pieces though.

    • @effel651997
      @effel651997 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can still buy kahlers made by Gary in the United States they're just really expensive and you have to buy the locking nut separately also ESP still makes Glenn Tipton's signature viper with a kahler

    • @Scott__C
      @Scott__C 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't forget Kerry King with BC Rich and now Dean. I think the Kahler gets a bad rap because people don't set it up correctly to start with. They all have their idiosyncrasies. I had one through the 80s and it worked great.

    • @josed5584
      @josed5584 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That only reason why I didn’t get that guitar was because there is not as much support for kahler as for other floating bridges, I don’t have experience with them but they seem fairly solid

    • @texanfournow
      @texanfournow 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you really like Kahlers, keep an eye out for used Peaveys. I have 4 or 5 Peaveys with Kahlers. I believe all the PXD III series have the Kahler X-Trem. Even some older models from the 80s and 90s have Kahlers, like my Destiny.

  • @claysmell
    @claysmell 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unless I missed it, one thing not mentioned is that for the Floyd you have to cut the ball end off the string in order to fit into the clamps on the bridge. With the Kahler, there's no clamps on the bridge so you don't have to. Kahler has bolt on versions for Gibsons somewhat similar to the Stets, no routing necessary.

  • @JohnStuttgen
    @JohnStuttgen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That SG sounds amazing!

  • @franckgauthier1978
    @franckgauthier1978 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice review, could make a video to compare the stetsbar vs the dusenberg les trem please ?

  • @src248
    @src248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No modern floating trems? Music Man and PRS trems are fantastic.

  • @fernandes5986
    @fernandes5986 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awsome video Andy, but you missed a major one: the Steinberger's Transtrem.

    • @eleven9286
      @eleven9286 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      jorge fernandes not a big one bud

  • @EliasIraheta
    @EliasIraheta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What about the Wilkinson tremolo, the PRS one and the Music Man from the John Petrucci signature model?

    • @clamus68
      @clamus68 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are variations of the Fender system albeit better.

  • @n31lt8
    @n31lt8 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question fer ya - re: tuning stability on the Stetsbar.
    I switch tunings frequently.
    In a given session, If I'm not feeling, say a double-dropD or an DADADE, I'll switch to an FFCFAC on a whim.
    The Kahler (Schaller?) on my 85 MIJ tele is a nightmare to change tunings. You have to re-tune 10x before you're solidly in the new tuning. I had a Squier J Mascis JM that was actually pretty forgiving - only 2 or 3 times max re-tuning to change tunings.
    Thinking of getting a Stetsbar for my 335 clone.
    Will the Stetsbar system cooperate with a player who switches tuning frequently? Not expecting one-and done tuning change of a stop tail/tremless guitar, just want to be able to change tunings quickly enough before I forget why I wanted to do so in the first place.
    thx.
    p.s. you left out the Red Special Trem in the shootout. How might that perform in my case?

  • @igorkevorkian16
    @igorkevorkian16 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have Floyds now, mounted on Jacksons and I love them when I need them. But I miss my Charvel mounted Kahler. It wasn't perfect. At times it would lose pitch after a big bend. This was rectified by dipping the pitch with the bar (easier said than done when playing some covers) but worked well with original compositions.
    Still, I loved the feel and the look of it. That was my favorite guitar for the better part of 15 years, played so often that much of the black paint on the trem was worn and polished to a blackish smokey chrome which accented the pearlescent white of the body and ultra dark rosewood of the fretboard beautifully.
    Sadly, lost it to a fire. So Jackson/Floyd it is. And that's good enough. 😊

    • @praetorxyn
      @praetorxyn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've got a Jackson USA King V I bought in 2016 and have barely touched since. Even bought about $1500 worth of stuff from Floyd Upgrades, Titanium Saddles, a Tremolo stopper (so it springs back to level if you aren't actively using the bar), titanium sustain block, etc.
      At first I didn't use it because I was moving so frequently it wasn't worth setting everything up. Now, I'm not using it because I got it signed by Trivium and can't find a shop around here to coat it in something to protect the signatures. Not to mention I'm afraid to take the Floyd apart and do those upgrades myself, and couldn't find a shop to do that either (I live in a rural area).

    • @igorkevorkian16
      @igorkevorkian16 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@praetorxyn
      Floyds are scary. Pretty sure I never put the first one I took apart back together.
      Congrats on the sigs.

  • @fredrikolsson6910
    @fredrikolsson6910 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    More of this videos please

  • @diegoebustamante
    @diegoebustamante 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Andy, the father of gear reviews

    • @AndyDemos
      @AndyDemos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for not saying Grandfather ;)

  • @TheBoxBand
    @TheBoxBand 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your invisible pick! ;-)

  • @Some1Something
    @Some1Something 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What do you guys think about PRS's "molded" tremelo? I am thinking of getting my first guitar and I have my eye on an SE standard.

    • @BigPhi84
      @BigPhi84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The PRS bridge is one of my favorites! Adding “knife edges” to the six mounting screws really helped to improve the tuning stability compared to the vintage Fender design...
      When you say “molded”, I’m assuming that you’re talking about the first generation of PRS bridges built by Mann-Made, where the bridge plate and sustain block are cast in a die as one continuous piece. PRS stopped doing that decades ago when subsequent generations of bridges were developed and now employ a design similar to Fender (where the bridge plate and sustain block are attached to each other with machine screws). Some people claim that they can hear a difference between the one-piece and two-piece designs, but I don’t think there’s much weight to that.
      Sadly, the SE models use an import copy of the PRS bridge. It’s good enough for most people, but if you are heavy handed, the USA bridges retrofit into an SE model very easily. They aren’t cheap though!

    • @src248
      @src248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haven't used the SE version but the Core version is excellent. SEs sometimes have tuning issues, a lot of people replace the nut which makes a big difference

    • @Some1Something
      @Some1Something 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@src248 Thanks for the info. GraphTech are considered "the best", right?

    • @src248
      @src248 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Some1Something Very good and dependable at the very least

    • @Some1Something
      @Some1Something 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigPhi84
      I mentioned the word "molded" because that's how they describe the trem in PRS's website (the SE standard 24).
      Thanks for the info about the USA bridges!

  • @RedCarRecords
    @RedCarRecords 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never heard of/seen the Stetsbar before; seems pretty nice!

  • @arielmusic4340
    @arielmusic4340 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You help me understand ..thanks..