The screws from the Fender kit and the Squier kit are not interchangeable, they are different thread patterns. The Squier screws are good for Squier necks (mine are Classic Vibe 50 and Classic Vibe 60). However the CV screws did not work on my original Fender 1965 Strat neck, I had to use the Fender kit that you show in the video.
Yes, the classic vibe screws are much thicker. Most replace a classic vibe neck plate with other plates. Simply put a wooden match stick with some wood glue in the hole and put in the standard Fender screws to fix this issue.
@@customshopdesigned4468 I'm swapping a Squier plate with an "F" plate, on a Squier body, albeit with a Fender Japan neck, if the screws are glued in like you suggest, does that make it impossible to screw them in and out for truss rod adjustment?
A Consumer electronics sticker a RoH sticker and dont throw away sticker...European and Asian version of the FCC sticker they are supposed to put on American market stuff.
@@customshopdesigned4468 steel recycling and aluminum go right to China and the US tax payer pays freight. Yep they get free metal, we pay to get it there and pay to buy it back. The US doesn't have metals recycling plants because the EPA wont allow them. Our county got rid of recycling for that reason. Our recycling program almost bankrupted our county.
Blank Fender plates, made in the USA are magnetic, as are three bolt70s F style plates. The Fender plates measure about 1.8 or 1.75MM thick. Custom shop plates are thicker at 2mm
That's a good point that many people forget. Non magnetic doesn't mean pot metal. That includes various other parts. Normal steel is fine though. It's very strong and hard.
The screws on the classic vibes are very thick. You want to put wooden match sticks (break them off) and wood glue in the holes before you place these standard USA spec screws in for a perfect fit.
The hole spacing is the same for every plate; however, the squire plates come with very large Chinese screws. Standard Fender screws are #8 Phillips oval head at 1 3/4" long. Most people plug the screw holes on the Squiers with wooden match sticks/ or dowel and wood glue to ensure a very snug fit.
Yes, the hole spacing will line up. Please note that the USA Fender screws are a bit thinner than the Chinese screws. This goes for most Chinese made guitar neck plates - they have huge screws with a large diameter head. The USA specs are Phillips oval head #8 at 1 3/4" in length. Simply place a wooden match stick with some wood glue into the holes to ensure a tight fight when you swap it out. Also note the Fender F plate is thinner (about 1.75mm) vs the 2mm thick Classic vibe plate. The ones I sell are 2mm think. Thanks!
Unfortunately I don't do the contour heel version. As far as benefits I think the aesthetics are what people are after. I was surprised the Fender Custom Shop neck plate was a pot metal. Zinc is often alloyed with other metals including lead, tin, aluminium, and copper to keep costs down with a pot metal.
Reason no magnatism, is more likely to bethey are a type of stainless steel, not all stainless steels are magnetic. its not some cheap alloy pot metal.
Austenitic stainless steels usually are not magnetic. The metallic atoms in an austenitic stainless steel are arranged on a face-centered cubic (fcc) lattice. Alloying the stainless steel with elements such as nickel, manganese, carbon and nitrogen increases the likelihood that the alloy will possess the fcc crystal structure at room temperature and not be magnetic. Interesting stuff!
Well density does impact tone. Think of all the different tone woods out there; however, I don't think a neck plate would impact tone at any noticeable level to the human ear. Just a thicker stronger plate, but mostly people buy for the look - that's all -thanks!
The neck plate has LITTLE TO NOTHING to do with tone. Its purely aesthetic and has some structural properties to resist pull-out structureal shear forces. Some plates are thicker (denser) than others only because the manufacturers want extra pull-through shear force resistance at the head of the screws.
@@clintongallagher 33.3% of your fundamental tone comes directly from your neck plate. Choose wisely or else your tone will be muddy and thin, the worst of both worlds.
@@customshopdesigned4468 thanks. I bought a MIM Strat years ago but the neck wasn't original (changed to Special Edition Squier neck), I still had the single F neck plate and wasn't sure. Thanks again!
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I wonder if they thought the magnetism would interfere with your pickups??
The screws from the Fender kit and the Squier kit are not interchangeable, they are different thread patterns. The Squier screws are good for Squier necks (mine are Classic Vibe 50 and Classic Vibe 60). However the CV screws did not work on my original Fender 1965 Strat neck, I had to use the Fender kit that you show in the video.
Yes, the classic vibe screws are much thicker. Most replace a classic vibe neck plate with other plates. Simply put a wooden match stick with some wood glue in the hole and put in the standard Fender screws to fix this issue.
@@customshopdesigned4468 I'm swapping a Squier plate with an "F" plate, on a Squier body, albeit with a Fender Japan neck, if the screws are glued in like you suggest, does that make it impossible to screw them in and out for truss rod adjustment?
It's funny that I saw you video right when I was getting ready to install one of your plates. Always good work, Thanks!
Appreciated. I've been doing this as a hobby for a bit now. Take good care!
I'm looking for Custom Shop Neck plate for Custom Shop Fender Jazz with serial number
What kind of plate is good for american special strat? And what kind and screws use when buy new ?
what are the little black stickers on the bottom center of the Squier plates?
It's a do not throw in garbage sticker. I guess the idea is to recycle steel???
@@customshopdesigned4468 Aha, I wouldn't have guessed that ... thx
A Consumer electronics sticker a RoH sticker and dont throw away sticker...European and Asian version of the FCC sticker they are supposed to put on American market stuff.
@@customshopdesigned4468 steel recycling and aluminum go right to China and the US tax payer pays freight. Yep they get free metal, we pay to get it there and pay to buy it back. The US doesn't have metals recycling plants because the EPA wont allow them. Our county got rid of recycling for that reason. Our recycling program almost bankrupted our county.
What about plain neck plates?
Blank Fender plates, made in the USA are magnetic, as are three bolt70s F style plates. The Fender plates measure about 1.8 or 1.75MM thick. Custom shop plates are thicker at 2mm
The Fender custom shop plates are stainless.
Stainless steel, non magnetic, much better quality then the steel plates.
That's a good point that many people forget. Non magnetic doesn't mean pot metal. That includes various other parts. Normal steel is fine though. It's very strong and hard.
What i'll need extra for put to Squier Classic Vibe the neck plate with the old Fender "f"?
The screws on the classic vibes are very thick. You want to put wooden match sticks (break them off) and wood glue in the holes before you place these standard USA spec screws in for a perfect fit.
I want to buy a Classic vibe neck plate but i don't find the neck plate in the web
contact me through my website. I have one
Are these all the same size? The Squier kinda look a little larger, so might not fit standard holes. But it might just be an optical illusion...
The hole spacing is the same for every plate; however, the squire plates come with very large Chinese screws. Standard Fender screws are #8 Phillips oval head at 1 3/4" long. Most people plug the screw holes on the Squiers with wooden match sticks/ or dowel and wood glue to ensure a very snug fit.
Ah, thanks, that's good to know
I believe the the custom shop plate from Fender is Chrome plated brass so not magnetic.
It's actually stainless
If you want to place the plate with the old "f" to a Squier Classic Vibe, would it work?
Yes, the hole spacing will line up. Please note that the USA Fender screws are a bit thinner than the Chinese screws. This goes for most Chinese made guitar neck plates - they have huge screws with a large diameter head. The USA specs are Phillips oval head #8 at 1 3/4" in length. Simply place a wooden match stick with some wood glue into the holes to ensure a tight fight when you swap it out. Also note the Fender F plate is thinner (about 1.75mm) vs the 2mm thick Classic vibe plate. The ones I sell are 2mm think. Thanks!
What are the noticable benefits of it (on a CS strat)? do you make also contour heel version? Thanks
Unfortunately I don't do the contour heel version. As far as benefits I think the aesthetics are what people are after. I was surprised the Fender Custom Shop neck plate was a pot metal. Zinc is often alloyed with other metals including lead, tin, aluminium, and copper to keep costs down with a pot metal.
Reason no magnatism, is more likely to bethey are a type of stainless steel, not all stainless steels are magnetic. its not some cheap alloy pot metal.
Austenitic stainless steels usually are not magnetic. The metallic atoms in an austenitic stainless steel are arranged on a face-centered cubic (fcc) lattice. Alloying the stainless steel with elements such as nickel, manganese, carbon and nitrogen increases the likelihood that the alloy will possess the fcc crystal structure at room temperature and not be magnetic. Interesting stuff!
33.3% of your fundamental tone comes directly from your neck plate. Choose wisely or else your tone will be muddy and thin, the worst of both worlds.
Custom shops are high quality stainless which is non magnetic
Some stainless steels are magnetic, while others are not.
Does a higher density neck plate improve the guitar tone? If yes, in what way?
Well density does impact tone. Think of all the different tone woods out there; however, I don't think a neck plate would impact tone at any noticeable level to the human ear. Just a thicker stronger plate, but mostly people buy for the look - that's all -thanks!
The neck plate has LITTLE TO NOTHING to do with tone. Its purely aesthetic and has some structural properties to resist pull-out structureal shear forces.
Some plates are thicker (denser) than others only because the manufacturers want extra pull-through shear force resistance at the head of the screws.
@@clintongallagher 33.3% of your fundamental tone comes directly from your neck plate. Choose wisely or else your tone will be muddy and thin, the worst of both worlds.
Does the "F" plate come on Squiers or standard Strats?
Not on the squires
@@customshopdesigned4468 thanks. I bought a MIM Strat years ago but the neck wasn't original (changed to Special Edition Squier neck), I still had the single F neck plate and wasn't sure. Thanks again!
Not all stainless steel is magnetic
True stainless is non magnetic
We should all stop referring to this piece as a neck plate and start referring to it as a tone plate.