Hi Blanie Another good informative video and explanation of the process in covering artex ...well done mate 👍 Done that in the eye before bloody sore and irritating, it looks as if you got it in time
Thanks Paul mate - I appreciate that! Haha arr mate it's a killer isn't it? There was a hose outside so I blasted the plaster out of my eyes with that. It was a direct hit ha 😂!! I just got away with it but you have to act fast lol
I was not expecting my first attempt at a ceiling to come out very well, given it was also artex'd to make it a bit more tricky. After watching your vid a couple of times and bought an ox st. The job came out really well as if by magic. Going to start refering to you as (David)-Blaine plastering for beginners---the magic touch! Cheers!! :-)
Plasterer here, skimming over artex. Even if you take high spots off, put first coat on, let it take, then top coat, always a fe w lumps bumps. Use speed skim to flatten. Top out flatten, polish, I always get bubbling. When dry , scrape back. Otherwise , bond out, SBR again, the two coat skim. It’s a long process. . Overboard unless coving wants to be kept
Friend of mine showed me a way of skimming over artex, 1st coat was half bonding half skim mix and for the 2nd coat was just a normal finish mix. Always worked perfectly
@@leabeauty837 bonding is known as a plaster undercoat but generally its used to fill up holes and voids in area's of walls that aren't plumb, its a brilliant material and sets like rock. Also very good for plastering over old artex
Im always cautious about plastering over artex.always try to overboard first,much better job.i learnt my lesson years ago,and let the customer against my better judgement talk me into going over with bonding and finish.next day after clearing up all the fallen plaster i overboarded and skimmed.plastering for 35 years now,but i really enjoy your videos.well done.
@@wassupjg most old ceilings have distemper on them.artex seems to stick to this.but as soon as you try to overskim ,it comes away due to the moisture of the plaster along with the weight.always better to overboard and skim.plus this gives you added sound proofing and fire protection.
I always put bonding in with the first court so help blind the surface and get over the worst of it. Then a top coat. Interesting to see how others do it. Might try that sciming Derby thing. Looks good
Great videos, it's still possible to find asbestos in artex way into the 90s av recently found out, although tiny amounts, av taken a few chances, because money is money and work is work, but if its really old artex, I explain to the customer and in most cases they get it tested for around £100, its there ceiling, its there sector, stay safe 👍
Your videos are brilliant mate. Im self taught and id say pretty competent at plastering and rendering, but i still enjoy watching your videos because everyday is a learning day and im always open to learning new tips and tricks. Can never learn enough as i always say! And the way you break your videos down and explain in detail is brilliant, my favourite plaster tutorial videos. Keep up the good work buddy
Hi bud. I'm a plasterer myself from Scarborough and been doing it about 16 year. I just decided to watch some vids of plastering on TH-cam out of boredom and came across your vids. And to be honest I work pretty much same as you and enjoy watching your vids they are really good. I was always tought 2 coats ect just like how you do it. And I've just started using the ox speed skims. I have a plastic and metal blade one . Only 600mm though but a great tool for flattening ect.
Hi mate! Great hearing from you and thank you for watching. I really appreciate it as it's always good hearing from fellow plasterers. Yes these new tools are making a massive difference to the world off plastering - it's making the trade a lot easier to work with. Great hearing from you. Cheers 👍
I've found if I let the first coat go off a bit my second coat goes on a treat, I used to do first coat then smash the second coat on but it never looked perfect. I suppose you never stop learning. Great video blain cheers buddy.
I plastered for years over artex without knowing the danger with it. It Does make you think about the jobs I've done in the past. Lovely job again mate. I've got a lite artex ceiling coming up, it doesn't need scraping just unibonding. Need to get one of those speedskims first though. I've heard people suggesting getting the steel blade ox but seeing you use the plastic blade alot. It does a fine job and saves a lot of time. Keep up the good work mate 👍
One guy battened and boarded over the top. I told him the batten was only to correct the ceiling if it was out (i think I’m right? ) he said you had to batten.... the ceiling is a mess more lumps and bumps than before i think he did the battens as he couldn’t be arsed to work out where the joists where to screw to? I couldn’t be a plasterer if i had to work on other peoples boarding.
Not excuses at all This is the most reckless and irresponsible video I've ever seen. He just gone and scraped away a load of artex from mid 80's on the basis that 'someone' told him it was OK. This vid ought to come with a health warning. No one shoul EVER scrape away any old artex unless it's tested first' All those viewers including seasoned 'professionals' blowing smoke up his ass and praising him clearly haven't got a clue. He ought to be ashamed posting this sort of dangerous video. Do NOT do this EVER
@@bigchiponmyshoulder7573 Obviously you could skip the scrapping step and lay the plaster on even thicker or as he says in the video over board. From who id heard from they clearly just couldn’t be bothered or thought the plaster simply wouldn’t stick. Clearly it is possible to do. Non of the excuses id heard were linked to asbestos.
Hi bud.. Have a far different approach on these as had one come down with the finish shrinking and pulled the artex background down.. Was quite a lage area mind. So I recommend that artex on a small lid ain't to bad wit this method.. On bigger lids I always bond um out as this seems to cure the issue.. 🤠
Hiya. Your channel is excellent. Your explanation of methods is very clear. I've been watching for years. Just about to tackle artex in a medium. Sized shower room. Using your 80/20 mix. Roughly how much plaster should be mixed fir each coat? I have 2 x 25kg of Bond and multi. I don't want to mix too much and have the issue of getting rid of it..ha...cheers
I used to work how you did plastering ceilings with a hop up no speedskim pole attachment etc, changed about 3 months ago got a pair of stilts never looked back. Get yourself a pair of stilts you’ll legs will feel completely different at the end of the day! 👍
Haha arr mate I need to! They are great aren't they! I'll be honest I don't know why I haven't got a set because you're completely right!! Great advice mate. Cheers 👍
Plastering For Beginners I had to mate tbh on price everyday knocking out houses, couldn’t walk when I got in haha just bought a pair practised walking around at home then started scrimming up ceilings now walk on them like I’ve used them all my life lol
Hi blanie I’m a plasterer been watching your videos lately and learned a few good tips it’s always good to learn new thing’s keep up with the good work videos cheers 👍
Depending on artex, it’s diffficult to get a a real good finish, even scraping back, first coat tihick, let to pull in, then second coat. Can look great when finished, but day after bubbles come through. Very expensive to scrape., bond then two coat skim. Lots of SBR. And many coats. Unless you have customer wanting to leave coving, overboard .
I bought a house with woodchip and artex, its taken ages to get the woodchip off and plaster the walls. I need to learn to plaster the ceilings and cover the artex.
Brilliant vid im scared to do it but what’s the worse that can happen!? See when you put the glue on do you scrape after first coat and then apply the 2nd coat is that right?
Good video. I did my city and guilds approx 10 years ago. I’m actually a kitchen fitter but was always waiting for plasterers!! So I learnt to plaster. My course used to make us skim three coats of finish instead of scraping of stipple etc. I’m a expat in Spain now, that’s a completely different ballgame! We use perlinor here, the closest I’ve come to finding multi finish. Just sets a bit quicker.
Hi Blaine great info there and wondering could tiles be plastered over or dot and dab with plasterboard and skim? Any tips would be appreciated as taking tiles off is going to cause massive work as walls are constructed of old 50 mil clinker blocks with weak plaster over.
Have you ever tried flattening/closing in with your flexi. I tried the other day as labourer was trying to use my finish trowel. Will be doing it from now on. So much better I felt!
I watched a video on youtube years ago from a really good hand soon after the flexi came out, he put on and finished with a flexi. ever since that day I have done the same, I know they are meant to be a finishing trowel only, but it has never given me a problem, and its cured my tennis elbow, it just makes life so much easier, if I have doctored a bit of bonding up and needed to skim it straight over and obviously it sometimes blebs, then I need to give a very hard trowel with steel, other than that it leaves a first class job
@@greenup9913 totally mate. I use a refina superflex, couldn’t find finishing trowel on job last week and done the full whack with it and was much lighter on the arm etc. left exact same finish too !
@@williammacphee335 anything that saves your arm/body is worth a try, I have never looked back since watching that video, I was told when I first started plastering, by an old joiner to get out of this job as it kills horses, and he was right, we really do need to look after ourselves if we intend doing this job long term, especially if your a site worker
@@greenup9913 I’m domestic work mate don’t touch sites. Good money but killing yourself daily. Rather do a room in 2 days for 700 (approx) than rattling it out in 2 gauges in 4 hours for 400 and in agony for days after
best way to treat asbestos is if in doubt...always assume it is asbestos. you can take a small sample in a bag and have it tested for like £20. why risk it? not just you exposed, its that whole house, their family, your clothes and van and then your family at home
Great work thank you for uploading it.i have done recently an Artex ceiling myself , but haven’t used one of them speedskim boards.looking at them ,there are two options,plastic or steel blade, which one would you recommend?i thought my plastering looks very good and couldn’t see any unlevel bits, walls or ceilings,but by looking in different lighting, without the lights on ,just the daylight and even that depending on mornings or evenings , I could see some unlevel parts , which I think could be avoided if I would of used one of them speedskimm fancy tools...many thanks Rob
Yeah the Speedskim is a great bit if kit and it definately flattens your walls to a higher standard. I've seen an massive difference since using it so I definately recommend it! I'd go for the plastic blade matey - is cracking!
Being new to plastering, i found this very helpful. Q1, do we have to wait for.2nd coat of pva to dry or start plastering while tacky? Q2, I was lead to believe that bonding coat and then a 2nd coat of skimming was the way forward for such a job. Obviously not the case. What type of job would you use a bond and skim coat?
Glad to hear you found it useful matey! Yeah you usually wait for the PVA to go tacky but to be honest I've never found it to be a massive issue if you don't. You can come back to it when it's completing dry otherwise. I never really use Bonding on Artex - it's all down to preference. If it's an extreme case of Artex which can't be scraped then Bonding is the answer. Everyone has a different method and like I said, it's all down to preference pal 👍
Ive had a nightmare this week. Did a very large artex ceiling, blue grit it and followed this process but 4 days later a section fell off. First time using blue grit and only used it coz it was satin paint. On reflection looks like I didn't put enough blue grit on. Proper gutted 😔
I’m sure I’ve seen u in the past to do a 30% 70% mix with hardwall and multi finish to overcome real bad undulating areas du reckon u could use this mix on an artexed ceiling if the texture is quite prominent obviously only on the first coat
I got 5 ceiling to do starting Monday a bathroom separate toilet and 3 bedroom going to use this video as my tutorial as it's my first artex cover job. I have given my self 5 days to carry out this. Do you think it's enough time for a first time effort.
I’ve stipple in my small bathroom ceiling and I’m no good at plastering. I’m on my own! Is it possible to trowel a layer of plasterboard adhesive to the ceiling.. then offer up a small plasterboard to stick to the adhesive and put in a few screws to hold the board in place while the adhesive cures? Then remove the screws…fill in joints and so on?
Another great video! Big thank You! I remember my first artex ceiling and it was nightmare... especially with times. I have 2 questions: 1. It's not first time when I noticed you plaster ceiling and wall with the same corner at the same time. How do you deal with it? And 2nd: Have you ever plaster ceiling above carpet? Can you make a video how do you protect everything in a room (carpets, skirting board, sockets - btw. I use food foil to protect sockets and switches, maybe it sounds funny but it does the Job). Is it any chance to protect walls before painting?
Hi mate! It's great hearing from you again! Yeah they can be very troublesome but it's all down to timings! I plaster a lot of wet corners which can be a bit of an issue but with time you can really get into it. There's s video in the advanced section of The Plasterers Blueprint actually - I discuss it in detail there matey! Yeah that's a great idea. I usually use start sheets and making tape around the shirts but you could also use carpet protectors as our friend above mentioned! Hope this all helps pal and it's great to hear from you again 👍
Nice video. Explained everything really well, good job. Completely summed up how it feels to get plaster in your eye ABSOLUTELY ANGIN'!!! 😂 I've learnt the hard way and always wear glasses now.
@@vincentplastering3074 I guess you were born a pro then? First ceiling flat as glass. Nice encouragement there. If we're being critical of people doing things they're not qualified to do, perhaps you could take some English lessons before you post on here again.The irony in your message is hilarious, if your skimming is as bad as your attitude and your English I imagine you're a pretty skint plasterer. Just a thought actually, why on earth is a PRO like you watching TH-cam plastering tutorials? I smell a rat. Or a hypocrite.
Hi. Thanks a lot for your video. We've moved into this house that was built in 1970 and all hallway downstairs, stairs ans upstairs hallway all walls and ceilings are artex. I am planning on tackling it all by myself and my experience with plastering is: nil. How do I sign up for your plastering tutorial, please?
Could I ask why you don't use the speedskim to finish the second coat? Could you if you wanted? I guess you'd have to get any bits you miss with a trowel.
Great video! I’ve got this same project to do for my own ceiling although the artex was just light stipple which I’ve scraped back flat. Can I ask what ratio mix of multi-finish to water do you use on this slighter drier mix? Thank you!
Hi mate, great hearing from you. It's not as bad when the Artex isn't as defined so I'd mix 12.5 litres of water to one bag of Multi Finish. This should give you the right consistency pal! Hope this helps and good luck with your ceilings 👍
Artex was still being used on buildings right up untill early 2ks not 1985. The stocks ov asbestos were still being used .just be careful. That chance you took could or might be costly. Good luck. Good vid
hi pal Ive used artex over the yrs but will never overskim it as its not a normal plaster which sets by hydraulic action (chemical reaction)its an air drying compound like paint so the water in the new coat wets it back up and that's why it peels off
I personally prefer using PVA with Artex. If I use at least 2 coats and hit the ceiling when the PVA is tacky then I never get any issues. I find that Blurgrit had to much of a texture. This added to the texture of the Artex just creates a bigger problem for me but I know a lot of people who use it. It's also very messy to use 😂
1 big problem ,skimming might stick to artex but is the artex sound you wont know till you skimmed to it and it may come away from the board , l all ways overboard first no danger of the ceiling failing.
Good vid. I worked in the USA for awhile and they regularaly go over texture. I have seen many times after pva-ing the artex coming off dropping off or even worse theyve artexed onto oil based paint and the plaster peel off. You know what i saw them use which was quick? Message me back and ill tell you. Lol
You can only really get away with this if the artex is quite flat to the wall, and the plasterboard is really well nailed or screwed on, as you're adding more weight it can cause the plasterboard to sagg and potentially come down, as i've found out 🙈
I'm nay plasterer, I'm just a builder, but I always put sand in the Unibond. I recon, that way I get less plaster in the face. Just get sand and Unibond in the face instead.
what plaster did you use to cover the artex. I am wanting to plaster over my ceiling which was built in the 70's. What method would you recomend to cover the ceiling?
Thank you, I really appreciate that. The product is British Gypsum Multi Finish but I'm really not sure if you can get it in the States (I doubt it 😒) However, when I worked in NZ my friend used to ship a pallet over because he loved using the English products. The only thing you have to watch out for is the sell by date - it does have a shelf life. Hope this helps and thanks again 👍
Tried plastering walls a couple of times and always find it starts to dry and when I start to smooth it out i get tiger stripes. Found your vids really good. I now have a whole house to re-plaster including popcorn ceilings. Is plastering aspestos popcorn basically the same process as the artex?
My house was built in 1967 so would I be right in thinking my popcorn ceiling is most likely going to be a asbestos mixture, i was told only properties from pre 1960 used a asbestos mixture, I suppose I will have someone test a small piece before we skim over this but just wondering if anyone could confirm this? Thanks
Hey Blaine great vid I’m going to have a crack at plastering over my artex this weekend. What ratio do you mix the plaster for when doing artex? I know you say to make it thicker but are we talking a litre less of water or more? Or less?
Hi mate - I would still keep the mix the same because it's just easier to work with. You just want to apply it thicker that's all - 12.5L of water to one bag of plaster pal! Thats the dream mix 👍
never scrape an artex ceiling, see asbestos in artex for the reason. to make your first coat a lot easier i always add a few handfuls of bonding plaster to the mix as it helps to fluff up the mix allowing a thicker application.
Is a refina superflex suitable for the whole job and what size trowel would you recommend. what size of speedskim would you recommend for a beginner, 600 or 1200? Can the sponge float method be used on artex ceilings and is this a better method for someone who has never plastered? Thanks for the videos, keep it up.
You’ve done this in the wrong order. You scrape first, then pva for starters. 2 coats of multi finish is all that’s needed for those patterns, don’t forget all bits of smal plasterboard make good bits should be taped or scrimmed too. I was an artexer back in the day, we were treated way above any other trade back then, almost celebrity status! It was very fashionable and a highly skilled trade if done properly. Going out of fashion does not mean it was only done by chancers, many a plasterer tried and failed to artex to the standard of a proper artexer.
I like the overlapping swirl patterns and a simple roller stipple on ceilings but not walls; just enough to hide whatever imperfections are under them. Both are great if you need to finish a room in a hurry or if you want to make a low ceiling a little less oppressive. I only skimmed my ceilings because they had been repaired and matching the texture would have been a hassle. They do a bunch of other textures here in the USA, depending on the area, including skiptrowel, knockdown, and some weird stomping thing with a hairy brush or a sponge and I find most of them hideous, especially on walls. I guess it's just a matter of moderation.
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Hi Blanie Another good informative video and explanation of the process in covering artex ...well done mate 👍
Done that in the eye before bloody sore and irritating, it looks as if you got it in time
Thanks Paul mate - I appreciate that! Haha arr mate it's a killer isn't it? There was a hose outside so I blasted the plaster out of my eyes with that. It was a direct hit ha 😂!! I just got away with it but you have to act fast lol
Small Tip: Touch of food colouring in the PVA mix will show all areas you have covered
Great advice !! Cheers pal 👍
I’ve heard about it bleaching through before
sly it shouldn’t do as you are only adding a minuscule amount.
I add paint seems to work fine.. 🤠
Will also stain skirting boards and coving, would not recommend, unless you want to spend 20 minutes using baby wipes at the end
39 thumbs down ?? I’ve been a spread for years this man covers all bases simply top vid pal
Shit I just gave him a thumbs up 👍
Thanks lads! I really appreciate that - thank you for watching 👍
Haters gonna hate
My house is 1985 and my Artex has come back positive for asbestos. They stopped producing it in 1984 but some left over stock was still used.
There's definitely no guarantee that any artex, even into the 90's, is asbestos free.
I was not expecting my first attempt at a ceiling to come out very well, given it was also artex'd to make it a bit more tricky.
After watching your vid a couple of times and bought an ox st.
The job came out really well as if by magic.
Going to start refering to you as (David)-Blaine plastering for beginners---the magic touch!
Cheers!! :-)
Plasterer here, skimming over artex. Even if you take high spots off, put first coat on, let it take, then top coat, always a fe w lumps bumps. Use speed skim to flatten. Top out flatten, polish, I always get bubbling. When dry , scrape back. Otherwise , bond out, SBR again, the two coat skim. It’s a long process. . Overboard unless coving wants to be kept
Friend of mine showed me a way of skimming over artex, 1st coat was half bonding half skim mix and for the 2nd coat was just a normal finish mix. Always worked perfectly
Hi, what do you use for the bonding?
@@leabeauty837 bonding is known as a plaster undercoat but generally its used to fill up holes and voids in area's of walls that aren't plumb, its a brilliant material and sets like rock. Also very good for plastering over old artex
@@WCMT89 Thank you 🙏
I put some bonding in my first coat, not taking credit for it as it’s long been know as the magic mix
Im always cautious about plastering over artex.always try to overboard first,much better job.i learnt my lesson years ago,and let the customer against my better judgement talk me into going over with bonding and finish.next day after clearing up all the fallen plaster i overboarded and skimmed.plastering for 35 years now,but i really enjoy your videos.well done.
Do you know why it fell by any chance? Maybe not sealed properly initially?
@@wassupjg most old ceilings have distemper on them.artex seems to stick to this.but as soon as you try to overskim ,it comes away due to the moisture of the plaster along with the weight.always better to overboard and skim.plus this gives you added sound proofing and fire protection.
@@markchambers9415 cool, could the distemper/surface be stabilised with a stabilising primer like artex stabilex?
@@wassupjg you can try.but i wouldnt bank on it.i found there are no short cuts.good luck.
Hi Sir. Your method and teaching is just Brilliant! I have learnt a lot and very confident to try plastering in my house. Thanks a lot.
I always put bonding in with the first court so help blind the surface and get over the worst of it. Then a top coat. Interesting to see how others do it. Might try that sciming Derby thing. Looks good
Thanks for that pal and definitely give the Speedskim a go. It's great 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners will do bud, cheers
I've used febond instead of pva, and it holds really well..
Great videos, it's still possible to find asbestos in artex way into the 90s av recently found out, although tiny amounts, av taken a few chances, because money is money and work is work, but if its really old artex, I explain to the customer and in most cases they get it tested for around £100, its there ceiling, its there sector, stay safe 👍
Very good point my friend! Cheers
I'm buying a house which has artex (prob asbestos). Can't it just safely be plastered over?
Im a plasterer myself so i can truely say he is bang on.
Skrim, Skim Sleep repeat.
Cheers pal!
Your videos are brilliant mate. Im self taught and id say pretty competent at plastering and rendering, but i still enjoy watching your videos because everyday is a learning day and im always open to learning new tips and tricks. Can never learn enough as i always say! And the way you break your videos down and explain in detail is brilliant, my favourite plaster tutorial videos. Keep up the good work buddy
Thank you for this comment mate. I really appreciate the support. Thanks again and I'm glad to hear that it's working out for you. Cheers 👍
Hi bud. I'm a plasterer myself from Scarborough and been doing it about 16 year. I just decided to watch some vids of plastering on TH-cam out of boredom and came across your vids. And to be honest I work pretty much same as you and enjoy watching your vids they are really good. I was always tought 2 coats ect just like how you do it. And I've just started using the ox speed skims. I have a plastic and metal blade one . Only 600mm though but a great tool for flattening ect.
Hi mate! Great hearing from you and thank you for watching. I really appreciate it as it's always good hearing from fellow plasterers. Yes these new tools are making a massive difference to the world off plastering - it's making the trade a lot easier to work with. Great hearing from you. Cheers 👍
I've found if I let the first coat go off a bit my second coat goes on a treat, I used to do first coat then smash the second coat on but it never looked perfect. I suppose you never stop learning. Great video blain cheers buddy.
I plastered for years over artex without knowing the danger with it. It Does make you think about the jobs I've done in the past. Lovely job again mate.
I've got a lite artex ceiling coming up, it doesn't need scraping just unibonding.
Need to get one of those speedskims first though. I've heard people suggesting getting the steel blade ox but seeing you use the plastic blade alot. It does a fine job and saves a lot of time.
Keep up the good work mate 👍
Just finished my hallway and the artex pulled away from the plasterboard. Reboarded ceiling, reskimed,perfect finish
Great to see this iv heard so many people saying you cant plaster directly onto artex and it made no sense to me .....clearly just excuses
Just excuses pal 😉
One guy battened and boarded over the top. I told him the batten was only to correct the ceiling if it was out (i think I’m right? ) he said you had to batten.... the ceiling is a mess more lumps and bumps than before i think he did the battens as he couldn’t be arsed to work out where the joists where to screw to? I couldn’t be a plasterer if i had to work on other peoples boarding.
Not excuses at all This is the most reckless and irresponsible video I've ever seen. He just gone and scraped away a load of artex from mid 80's on the basis that 'someone' told him it was OK. This vid ought to come with a health warning. No one shoul EVER scrape away any old artex unless it's tested first' All those viewers including seasoned 'professionals' blowing smoke up his ass and praising him clearly haven't got a clue. He ought to be ashamed posting this sort of dangerous video. Do NOT do this EVER
@@bigchiponmyshoulder7573 Obviously you could skip the scrapping step and lay the plaster on even thicker or as he says in the video over board. From who id heard from they clearly just couldn’t be bothered or thought the plaster simply wouldn’t stick. Clearly it is possible to do. Non of the excuses id heard were linked to asbestos.
Terrific. Easy to follow, and I've got A.D.D. Good tip about food colouring in the PVA 🎉
Hi bud.. Have a far different approach on these as had one come down with the finish shrinking and pulled the artex background down.. Was quite a lage area mind. So I recommend that artex on a small lid ain't to bad wit this method.. On bigger lids I always bond um out as this seems to cure the issue.. 🤠
Thanks for that pal - I actually used the same technique in another video so I totally agree. Cheers mate 👍
Hiya. Your channel is excellent. Your explanation of methods is very clear. I've been watching for years. Just about to tackle artex in a medium. Sized shower room. Using your 80/20 mix. Roughly how much plaster should be mixed fir each coat? I have 2 x 25kg of Bond and multi. I don't want to mix too much and have the issue of getting rid of it..ha...cheers
Nice little film
I’ve got house full of Artex so it’s going to be fun
Thanks again
Good luck pal!!
Thank you very much for all of your videos i learned a lot of things from you you are the best on TH-cam
Hi Blaine, why is the 2:1 PVA mix used here instead of the usual 3:1 you use?
Perfect, I am attempt this in a few weeks and was wondering where to begin! Thank you so much
No worries mate. Good luck pal 👍
I used to work how you did plastering ceilings with a hop up no speedskim pole attachment etc, changed about 3 months ago got a pair of stilts never looked back. Get yourself a pair of stilts you’ll legs will feel completely different at the end of the day! 👍
Haha arr mate I need to! They are great aren't they! I'll be honest I don't know why I haven't got a set because you're completely right!! Great advice mate. Cheers 👍
Plastering For Beginners I had to mate tbh on price everyday knocking out houses, couldn’t walk when I got in haha just bought a pair practised walking around at home then started scrimming up ceilings now walk on them like I’ve used them all my life lol
Brilliant! It makes sense mate - hopefully ill get rid of my Bambi legs lol!
Cheers pal!
Great video, but please be aware that asbestos was used up until the end of 2000 and not just in artex.
Price to include testing if there's any doubt
If it tested positive what would you do differently in the video?
Hi blanie I’m a plasterer been watching your videos lately and learned a few good tips it’s always good to learn new thing’s keep up with the good work videos cheers 👍
Thank you for watching and I'm glad it's helping! I appreciate it, cheers!
I have a medi flex but don’t use it much Carnot get used to it could you tell me when would be best stage to use it at cheers
I'd use it directly after I've flattened the 2nd coat is plaster. It's great to use for the 1st trowel. Hope this helps pal 👍
Cheers bud I’ll give it a go tomorrow 👍👍
Depending on artex, it’s diffficult to get a a real good finish, even scraping back, first coat tihick, let to pull in, then second coat. Can look great when finished, but day after bubbles come through. Very expensive to scrape., bond then two coat skim. Lots of SBR. And many coats. Unless you have customer wanting to leave coving, overboard .
I bought a house with woodchip and artex, its taken ages to get the woodchip off and plaster the walls. I need to learn to plaster the ceilings and cover the artex.
Can you do a hallway next. How to set up the ladders to plaster a hallway. Cheers buddy
Sounds good pal 👍
Brilliant vid im scared to do it but what’s the worse that can happen!?
See when you put the glue on do you scrape after first coat and then apply the 2nd coat is that right?
Good video. I did my city and guilds approx 10 years ago. I’m actually a kitchen fitter but was always waiting for plasterers!! So I learnt to plaster. My course used to make us skim three coats of finish instead of scraping of stipple etc. I’m a expat in Spain now, that’s a completely different ballgame! We use perlinor here, the closest I’ve come to finding multi finish. Just sets a bit quicker.
Your videos are awesome. Can you use exactly the same techniques with white plaster
Thank you so much!! I can't see why not matey!!
Hi Blaine great info there and wondering could tiles be plastered over or dot and dab with plasterboard and skim? Any tips would be appreciated as taking tiles off is going to cause massive work as walls are constructed of old 50 mil clinker blocks with weak plaster over.
thanks for the informative comments great video i will continue to watch.
Cheers pal 👍
Great video ...I plaster before looking your video..and I think i done mistake..i plaster without pva first...you think the plaster will fall down?
Have you ever tried flattening/closing in with your flexi. I tried the other day as labourer was trying to use my finish trowel. Will be doing it from now on. So much better I felt!
I watched a video on youtube years ago from a really good hand soon after the flexi came out, he put on and finished with a flexi. ever since that day I have done the same, I know they are meant to be a finishing trowel only, but it has never given me a problem, and its cured my tennis elbow, it just makes life so much easier, if I have doctored a bit of bonding up and needed to skim it straight over and obviously it sometimes blebs, then I need to give a very hard trowel with steel, other than that it leaves a first class job
@@greenup9913 totally mate. I use a refina superflex, couldn’t find finishing trowel on job last week and done the full whack with it and was much lighter on the arm etc. left exact same finish too !
@@williammacphee335 anything that saves your arm/body is worth a try, I have never looked back since watching that video, I was told when I first started plastering, by an old joiner to get out of this job as it kills horses, and he was right, we really do need to look after ourselves if we intend doing this job long term, especially if your a site worker
@@greenup9913 I’m domestic work mate don’t touch sites. Good money but killing yourself daily. Rather do a room in 2 days for 700 (approx) than rattling it out in 2 gauges in 4 hours for 400 and in agony for days after
best way to treat asbestos is if in doubt...always assume it is asbestos. you can take a small sample in a bag and have it tested for like £20. why risk it? not just you exposed, its that whole house, their family, your clothes and van and then your family at home
Fair point pal!
Yes. That's I told my friend when we started drilling into artex. Put a mask on. He did not listen, hell knows what will be his consequences.
Great work thank you for uploading it.i have done recently an Artex ceiling myself , but haven’t used one of them speedskim boards.looking at them ,there are two options,plastic or steel blade, which one would you recommend?i thought my plastering looks very good and couldn’t see any unlevel bits, walls or ceilings,but by looking in different lighting, without the lights on ,just the daylight and even that depending on mornings or evenings , I could see some unlevel parts , which I think could be avoided if I would of used one of them speedskimm fancy tools...many thanks Rob
Yeah the Speedskim is a great bit if kit and it definately flattens your walls to a higher standard. I've seen an massive difference since using it so I definately recommend it! I'd go for the plastic blade matey - is cracking!
Being new to plastering, i found this very helpful.
Q1, do we have to wait for.2nd coat of pva to dry or start plastering while tacky?
Q2, I was lead to believe that bonding coat and then a 2nd coat of skimming was the way forward for such a job. Obviously not the case. What type of job would you use a bond and skim coat?
Glad to hear you found it useful matey! Yeah you usually wait for the PVA to go tacky but to be honest I've never found it to be a massive issue if you don't. You can come back to it when it's completing dry otherwise. I never really use Bonding on Artex - it's all down to preference. If it's an extreme case of Artex which can't be scraped then Bonding is the answer. Everyone has a different method and like I said, it's all down to preference pal 👍
scraping high spots, have you tested for asbestos, big up blanie for possibly giving some one asbestosis
It was tested beforehand
Ive had a nightmare this week. Did a very large artex ceiling, blue grit it and followed this process but 4 days later a section fell off. First time using blue grit and only used it coz it was satin paint. On reflection looks like I didn't put enough blue grit on. Proper gutted 😔
Good job Blaine as always
I’m sure I’ve seen u in the past to do a 30% 70% mix with hardwall and multi finish to overcome real bad undulating areas du reckon u could use this mix on an artexed ceiling if the texture is quite prominent obviously only on the first coat
Hi
Great video. Many thanks.
Can I uxse ready mixed plaster? Do I need to do a bonding coat first? Is bonding coat just painting ceiling with pva?
I'd about ready mixed plaster mate because they're rubbish to tell you the truth ha!! Sick to BG Multi Finish my friend 👍
What size aria is good to work at a time on my own. Like drying time from start to finishing?
I got 5 ceiling to do starting Monday a bathroom separate toilet and 3 bedroom going to use this video as my tutorial as it's my first artex cover job. I have given my self 5 days to carry out this. Do you think it's enough time for a first time effort.
Hi, I'm looking to do a bit DIY and plastering the bathroom that has some artex ceilings. Which dry plaster to you recommend? Thanks
Hi Blaine, what PVA would you recommend for Artex ceilings?
Hi Blaine would you recommend febond blue grit or pea for a 3.5 x 4m stippled ceiling before bonding
Thanks in advance
It’s a good product but there’s nothing wrong with PVA
I’ve stipple in my small bathroom ceiling and I’m no good at plastering.
I’m on my own! Is it possible to trowel a layer of plasterboard adhesive to the ceiling.. then offer up a small plasterboard to stick to the adhesive and put in a few screws to hold the board in place while the adhesive cures? Then remove the screws…fill in joints and so on?
Great details, welcome course is good 👍
Would you recommend a bonding coat followed by x2 multi finish.
Regards
Do you wait for second coat of PVA to dry before applying plaster?? ie can you apply pva then come back to it another day?? Thanks
Very informative video im no plasterer just do small repair jobs when I have to I'm a gas engineer.
Fair play to you! Thanks for watching 👍
Another great video! Big thank You! I remember my first artex ceiling and it was nightmare... especially with times. I have 2 questions: 1. It's not first time when I noticed you plaster ceiling and wall with the same corner at the same time. How do you deal with it? And 2nd: Have you ever plaster ceiling above carpet? Can you make a video how do you protect everything in a room (carpets, skirting board, sockets - btw. I use food foil to protect sockets and switches, maybe it sounds funny but it does the Job). Is it any chance to protect walls before painting?
You can buy carpet protection to protect carpets or dustsheets.
Hi mate! It's great hearing from you again! Yeah they can be very troublesome but it's all down to timings! I plaster a lot of wet corners which can be a bit of an issue but with time you can really get into it. There's s video in the advanced section of The Plasterers Blueprint actually - I discuss it in detail there matey! Yeah that's a great idea. I usually use start sheets and making tape around the shirts but you could also use carpet protectors as our friend above mentioned! Hope this all helps pal and it's great to hear from you again 👍
Nice video. Explained everything really well, good job. Completely summed up how it feels to get plaster in your eye ABSOLUTELY ANGIN'!!! 😂 I've learnt the hard way and always wear glasses now.
Haha it is the worse thing in the world. I really need to start wearing goggles ha! Thanks for the comment my friend. Cheers 👍
you have inspired me! thanks so much for taking the time!
Thank you for watching and good luck my friend!
Do you run any 1-2 day course? Be good to try and learn the basics in person.
Cheers
Not yet but it is an idea for the future! I'll keep you posted if anything changes pal 👍
I'd also be up for these classes
This vid came out at the perfect time for me! Thanks!
Not a problem! Hope it helps 👍
If u want things to come out right hire a pro cause gana have to rip down the work u did and will be cost u more money
@@vincentplastering3074 I guess you were born a pro then? First ceiling flat as glass. Nice encouragement there.
If we're being critical of people doing things they're not qualified to do, perhaps you could take some English lessons before you post on here again.The irony in your message is hilarious, if your skimming is as bad as your attitude and your English I imagine you're a pretty skint plasterer.
Just a thought actually, why on earth is a PRO like you watching TH-cam plastering tutorials? I smell a rat. Or a hypocrite.
Hi. Thanks a lot for your video. We've moved into this house that was built in 1970 and all hallway downstairs, stairs ans upstairs hallway all walls and ceilings are artex. I am planning on tackling it all by myself and my experience with plastering is: nil. How do I sign up for your plastering tutorial, please?
Great job blaine, really good info and detail on how to deal with this job
Thank you Adam I really appreciate that mate 👍
Could I ask why you don't use the speedskim to finish the second coat? Could you if you wanted? I guess you'd have to get any bits you miss with a trowel.
Exactly that mate. It's not the best for finishing so the trowel cleans any gaps or holes! Hope this helps pal 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners Thanks! Brilliant videos by the way!
Been scraping artex ceilings for 11 years. For some reason I never took the dangers seriously. What a horrible realisation.
Why didn’t you scrim tape those spot light patches
I taped it after I had scraped the artex. I would have scraped it off otherwise 👍
Plastering For Beginners good stuff 👍
Can you use the blue grit onto artex ceilings ??
I personally wouldn't because it's a bit too gritty. That's my opinion - hope it helps my friend 👍
Plastering For Beginners hi mate to late already done today worked out a dream to be fair👌🏻 would really recommend febond.
This is a very instructural video .
Great video! I’ve got this same project to do for my own ceiling although the artex was just light stipple which I’ve scraped back flat. Can I ask what ratio mix of multi-finish to water do you use on this slighter drier mix? Thank you!
Hi mate, great hearing from you. It's not as bad when the Artex isn't as defined so I'd mix 12.5 litres of water to one bag of Multi Finish. This should give you the right consistency pal! Hope this helps and good luck with your ceilings 👍
Plastering For Beginners thank you, really appreciate the quick reply!
No worries mate 👍
Very good job that’s the way I would of done but there’s another way that’s
Using multi finish with bonding mixed
Thanks matey 👍
What is the ratio of multi finish with bonding that you use? Thanks!
@@skydiver0084 saw some others on here say 50:50
hi mate Why don't you use thistle Bond-it before skimming ?
Always on first mix put some boanding in with multi thinking itbup
Cheers pal, thanks for the recommendation 👍
Very helpful video:)
One question, why do you pva before scraping high points and not after?
To reduce the amount of dust 👍
Artex was still being used on buildings right up untill early 2ks not 1985. The stocks ov asbestos were still being used .just be careful. That chance you took could or might be costly. Good luck. Good vid
hi pal Ive used artex over the yrs but will never overskim it as its not a normal plaster which sets by hydraulic action (chemical reaction)its an air drying compound like paint so the water in the new coat wets it back up and that's why it peels off
Can you use the speed skim on the second coat?
Whats your opinion of blue grit?
I personally prefer using PVA with Artex. If I use at least 2 coats and hit the ceiling when the PVA is tacky then I never get any issues. I find that Blurgrit had to much of a texture. This added to the texture of the Artex just creates a bigger problem for me but I know a lot of people who use it. It's also very messy to use 😂
Would this be the same process if we're trying to plaster over popcorn ceilings?
Wouldn't it be better to scrape it before you apply the pva?
my artex has a crackline in it and I was told if skimmed the crack would reappear and must be boarded.Two men done in a day.Would this be right?
1 big problem ,skimming might stick to artex but is the artex sound you wont know till you skimmed to it and it may come away from the board , l all ways overboard first no danger of the ceiling failing.
is this the same process for an ensuite with mould and flaky artex?
Good vid. I worked in the USA for awhile and they regularaly go over texture. I have seen many times after pva-ing the artex coming off dropping off or even worse theyve artexed onto oil based paint and the plaster peel off. You know what i saw them use which was quick? Message me back and ill tell you. Lol
Do the 2 coats of plaster have to be done straight away? Could you put a thick layer of bonding then skim it the next day??
What mud is it? Multi finish from Wickes?
You can only really get away with this if the artex is quite flat to the wall, and the plasterboard is really well nailed or screwed on, as you're adding more weight it can cause the plasterboard to sagg and potentially come down, as i've found out 🙈
I'm nay plasterer, I'm just a builder, but I always put sand in the Unibond. I recon, that way I get less plaster in the face. Just get sand and Unibond in the face instead.
what plaster did you use to cover the artex. I am wanting to plaster over my ceiling which was built in the 70's. What method would you recomend to cover the ceiling?
You can use Bonding first to cover the texture or 2 thick coats of British Gypsum Multi Finish pal 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners over thick pattern artex always use bonding plaster. I've been doing it for 30 years.
Great video as usual! Also, which plaster are you using and can this be purchased in the US? Thank you!
Thank you, I really appreciate that. The product is British Gypsum Multi Finish but I'm really not sure if you can get it in the States (I doubt it 😒) However, when I worked in NZ my friend used to ship a pallet over because he loved using the English products. The only thing you have to watch out for is the sell by date - it does have a shelf life. Hope this helps and thanks again 👍
Tried plastering walls a couple of times and always find it starts to dry and when I start to smooth it out i get tiger stripes. Found your vids really good. I now have a whole house to re-plaster including popcorn ceilings. Is plastering aspestos popcorn basically the same process as the artex?
My house was built in 1967 so would I be right in thinking my popcorn ceiling is most likely going to be a asbestos mixture, i was told only properties from pre 1960 used a asbestos mixture, I suppose I will have someone test a small piece before we skim over this but just wondering if anyone could confirm this? Thanks
Great vid! Was that one coat of bonding and one of multi finish? Cheers
Hey Blaine great vid I’m going to have a crack at plastering over my artex this weekend. What ratio do you mix the plaster for when doing artex? I know you say to make it thicker but are we talking a litre less of water or more? Or less?
Hi mate - I would still keep the mix the same because it's just easier to work with. You just want to apply it thicker that's all - 12.5L of water to one bag of plaster pal! Thats the dream mix 👍
What plaster did you use on this? Thank you
never scrape an artex ceiling, see asbestos in artex for the reason. to make your first coat a lot easier i always add a few handfuls of bonding plaster to the mix as it helps to fluff up the mix allowing a thicker application.
lack of understanding, like many utubers
Good upload m8 I do my artex ceilings slightly different 👍 but sometimes do it this way👍
Thanks mate I appreciate that! Hope your channels going well my friend 👍
Presumably you’d recommend blue grit over PVA for glossy surface?
You can - just avoid Distemper 👍
Is a refina superflex suitable for the whole job and what size trowel would you recommend. what size of speedskim would you recommend for a beginner, 600 or 1200? Can the sponge float method be used on artex ceilings and is this a better method for someone who has never plastered?
Thanks for the videos, keep it up.
Hi is blue grit better than pva for covering artex?
You’ve done this in the wrong order. You scrape first, then pva for starters. 2 coats of multi finish is all that’s needed for those patterns, don’t forget all bits of smal plasterboard make good bits should be taped or scrimmed too. I was an artexer back in the day, we were treated way above any other trade back then, almost celebrity status! It was very fashionable and a highly skilled trade if done properly. Going out of fashion does not mean it was only done by chancers, many a plasterer tried and failed to artex to the standard of a proper artexer.
Good on you .... I think after looks naff!
I like the overlapping swirl patterns and a simple roller stipple on ceilings but not walls; just enough to hide whatever imperfections are under them. Both are great if you need to finish a room in a hurry or if you want to make a low ceiling a little less oppressive. I only skimmed my ceilings because they had been repaired and matching the texture would have been a hassle. They do a bunch of other textures here in the USA, depending on the area, including skiptrowel, knockdown, and some weird stomping thing with a hairy brush or a sponge and I find most of them hideous, especially on walls. I guess it's just a matter of moderation.
how much pressure should you apply when trowelling on?
Hi mate! There should be little pressure - if the mix is right then you shouldn’t need to force it on the wall 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners thanks fella. Is that bonding coat first, then multi finish?