Yeah and that bit at the end where he sent the letter to Takeshi? That part wasn't a bit. He actually sent a letter to Takeshi but Jon never got a response from Takeshi. XD
@@bradysutton6235Dang, Now if only we actually knew what he would have written Now the real Takeshi's Challenge is for Jon to fly out to Japan to meet the guy
Fun fact: the ending of the game is actually even worse than what Jon showed here. If you linger on the end screen for a few minutes, new text appears where Takeshi Kitano himself calls you a loser for actually bothering to play the game to completion.
@@poochyenajones1362 Yeah; as stated before, Beat Takeshi is a _very_ talented multi-media artist who has performed in a lot of different genres, even though he's primarily known for his action movies... and comedies. And (at the time) he thought Videogames were a 'fad' or 'niche market' that couldn't compare to other forms of artistic media. So, he's already pretty much a natural troll who enjoyed seeing how far he could push people before they either realized it was a joke or until they had a mental breakdown from realizing the sheer absurdity of the situation they found themselves in. He merely used this game to simply drive home his point about how he felt that videogames were nothing good and that the people who waste their time playing them are losers and obsessive madmen who don't have a life. ... Also, I like your username and image; when I played Pokemon as a kid, Poochyena/ Mightyena was always on my team, them or Zangoose. 👍
@matthewackermanaski9687 Horumon is a grilled dish that can be made of just about every part of the cow and pig that you DON'T want to eat. Since this game was never officially localized, whoever did the translation just put the literal English words on the sign without thinking that someone not familiar with Japanese cuisine wouldn't get the joke. It'd be like translating "Fresh Squeezed Jews" into Japanese; it loses meaning to the point of becoming non-sequitur.
The entire game was essentially a troll on Takeshi's part; he absolutely _HATED_ the idea of videogames at the time (he's slightly come around nowadays), believed they had no future, and set out to create one massive 'Anti-Game.' Because unlike popular games at the time where you were going on some epic quest to save the princess, fight dragons, or anything overtly fantastical like that... you instead get talked down to by your boss, divorce your wife, try to avoid paying alimony fees, get drunk, sing karaoke, then go on a treasure hunt after basically just saying 'Fuck It; I've Already Wasted My Life Doing Banal Shit; Might As Well Spend My Twilight Years Hunting for Gold!' and at the end of ALL that, after all the phenomenal effort you put into making it past all the challenges where you were given no clues on how to proceed, after jumping through all the hoops and over all the hurdles, your reward for beating the challenge? A bland, unfulfilling "Good Job." from Takeshi. THAT'S ALL. Again, this game was meant as a troll, meant to make people just sit there in sheer confusion and dawning anger at being put through all that suffering just to receive something that wasn't worth it at the end, to make you realize how many precious seconds of your life you wasted just to get a compliment from a guy who couldn't care less about videogames.
That’s all well and good, but it’s important to remember, just because something is made to be bad intentionally, that doesn’t suddenly mean it’s good. A bad game is a bad game, regardless of intention.
@@Wolf_Dominic True; I mean... stuff like _Freddy Got Fingered_ and _My Immortal_ exist, and they were made like that on purpose (in the latter case, it's not clear if the writer of _My Immortal_ was "intentionally" making a deranged crack-fic, or sincerely meant the things they wrote, spelling errors and all; but the former, it was *DEFINITIVELY* made to suck, to win a Razzy Award for Worst Movie Ever... and would confuse the likes of Nostalgia Critic and Linkara and so on, who wondered that if something was made to be hated and is loved _because_ of how hated it is, does it count as a "success" or a "failure?" It may logically be an obvious failure, but if it doesn't obey the spirit of it, if it manages to subvert the attempt to categorize it to simply and definitively say that it is ABSOLUTELY garbage, that people by all accounts should despise it and not like it, and sends countless people spiraling down a rabbit hole trying to make sense of something that never made sense in the first place, then what does that mean? I'm scared).
Reminds me of Harlan Ellison and the videogame of I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream. He also disliked the idea of videogames, seeing them as glorified toys as opposed to "true art", but went in to be a co-writer and the voice of AM (main villain). Never saw them as more than that until the day he died. While making the different routes for the characters, Ellison purposely wanted all of them to have a bad ending. "But that wouldn't make them fun" a developer told him. "GOOD!!!" he answered back. He had to compromise on making segments hard and filled with moon logic. When asked for a sequel, as some endings are different from that of the original book, Ellison always repeated "NO". Interesting character Mr. Ellison. He was defiantly a kind man if you knew how to talk to him, but he was able to hold a grudge if you pressed his buttons. When a University teacher told him he "would accomplish nothing in life", Ellison sent him a copy of every published book and award to rub it.
@@RafaelPena-Rios I gotta say, that’s one opinion that some people have, that I can never respect. It’s just such a short sighted, and frankly, stupid belief to have. That video games are nothing more than toys.
From what I've heard Takeshi didn't actually have that much of a part in developing the game. What happened was that the Taito devs went out drinking with him to ask him for ideas and opinions and basically the devs had to create the game from his drunken ramblings that day. Which would explain a fair bit.
Fun fact for the mailing bit at the end: They ACTUALLY make modern day sealing wax that can go through modern mailing systems. I talked to an engaged couple at a Halloween party at my local tabletop store last year who won the costume contest by dressing up as Jon Snow and Daenerys, they were going to use that kind of wax to send out their wedding invitations since it was gonna be medieval themed. Their costumes were REALLY good. That kind of wax comes in either candle form like Jon used or bead form that you have to melt in a spoon over a candle....I think it also comes in the form of a stick that can be used in low temp glue guns.
"Are we saying this is the original Dark Souls?" Pffft, Dark Souls wishes it was anywhere near as hard as Takeshi's Challenge. I'd recommend watching the Game Center CX episode about it. It includes the "real" ending, which Jon didn't show (because of course the real ending is somewhat cryptic bullshit).
The thing about the password screen is that old games like that didn't have a safe functionality. So if you die , you'd usually get a password after you beat a level and then you enter that password in the password screen so that you Can replay from that specific part of the game.
@@BelBelle468 also I've discovered that you can drink tequila at the Bar in the beginning to regenerate health and tapping "A,B" 3 times in rapid succession revives the character.
@@BelBelle468 He probably didn't know how to actually get a password. You have to QUIT the game first and then it'll give you one - if you die, you don't get one.
Funny enough, if you get to that old man and don't beat him up, you'll regret it, you'll make it to the treasure and the old man would come back and kill you at the end of the game kekw
For the record, that old guy that Jon says you have to beat the crap out of; if you don't beat him up after he gives you the map, he'll reappear at the treasure where he will steal it, Game Over-ing you at the last second. Back to the beginning for you.
I have a love-hate relationship with Taito. On one hand, they make actually decent games. On the other hand, they create some games where I would think FromSoft took some inspiration from, which is their teeth-grinding difficulty spikes.
This was not Dark Souls. Dark Souls is a series known to be very difficult, but fair. This is moreso the first Kaizo, a game that is more comedy sketch than video game, with the jokes all at the expense of the player. Which come to think of it, makes complete sense for Kitano.
I thiiiiink you can recover health in the city by drinking. But on top of everything else, along with the money management part of that, there's not a lot of room for screwing around.
Yeah and that bit at the end where he sent the letter to Takeshi? That part wasn't a bit. He actually sent a letter to Takeshi but Jon never got a response from Takeshi. XD
I've heard Takeshi actually got it and wanted to write back but because Jon didn't put a return address he didn't where to send it.
@@Aspen28570 Oh right i forgot about that.
@@bradysutton6235Dang, Now if only we actually knew what he would have written
Now the real Takeshi's Challenge is for Jon to fly out to Japan to meet the guy
Fun fact: the ending of the game is actually even worse than what Jon showed here. If you linger on the end screen for a few minutes, new text appears where Takeshi Kitano himself calls you a loser for actually bothering to play the game to completion.
Goddamn; that's brutal!
So it' not that the game design is flawed. Mr. Kitano knew EXACTLY what kind of game he created. Good to know.
@@poochyenajones1362 Yeah; as stated before, Beat Takeshi is a _very_ talented multi-media artist who has performed in a lot of different genres, even though he's primarily known for his action movies... and comedies.
And (at the time) he thought Videogames were a 'fad' or 'niche market' that couldn't compare to other forms of artistic media.
So, he's already pretty much a natural troll who enjoyed seeing how far he could push people before they either realized it was a joke or until they had a mental breakdown from realizing the sheer absurdity of the situation they found themselves in.
He merely used this game to simply drive home his point about how he felt that videogames were nothing good and that the people who waste their time playing them are losers and obsessive madmen who don't have a life.
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Also, I like your username and image; when I played Pokemon as a kid, Poochyena/ Mightyena was always on my team, them or Zangoose. 👍
@@nerdiboy5128 And yet so many years later he played a major character, both voice and likeness, in Yakuza 6.
@@freedantheeternal they should interview him. Ask him how he feels about video games now. Cus that’s hilarious.
Kojima ain't got shit on my boy Takeshi.
IIRC, “Grilled Mormons” is some kind of Japanese pun, but I’ve long forgotten what.
monjayaki maybe?
I think it's a pun on "Horumon", which are grilled intestines IINW
@matthewackermanaski9687 Horumon is a grilled dish that can be made of just about every part of the cow and pig that you DON'T want to eat.
Since this game was never officially localized, whoever did the translation just put the literal English words on the sign without thinking that someone not familiar with Japanese cuisine wouldn't get the joke. It'd be like translating "Fresh Squeezed Jews" into Japanese; it loses meaning to the point of becoming non-sequitur.
Have you seen his “Bootleg Games” series yet? The _Disney_ one is especially *intense.*
The bootleg games series is peak JonTron, I might actually go rewatch them right now
I AM THE GREAT "BOOT-LEG"
The entire game was essentially a troll on Takeshi's part; he absolutely _HATED_ the idea of videogames at the time (he's slightly come around nowadays), believed they had no future, and set out to create one massive 'Anti-Game.'
Because unlike popular games at the time where you were going on some epic quest to save the princess, fight dragons, or anything overtly fantastical like that... you instead get talked down to by your boss, divorce your wife, try to avoid paying alimony fees, get drunk, sing karaoke, then go on a treasure hunt after basically just saying 'Fuck It; I've Already Wasted My Life Doing Banal Shit; Might As Well Spend My Twilight Years Hunting for Gold!' and at the end of ALL that, after all the phenomenal effort you put into making it past all the challenges where you were given no clues on how to proceed, after jumping through all the hoops and over all the hurdles, your reward for beating the challenge?
A bland, unfulfilling "Good Job." from Takeshi.
THAT'S ALL.
Again, this game was meant as a troll, meant to make people just sit there in sheer confusion and dawning anger at being put through all that suffering just to receive something that wasn't worth it at the end, to make you realize how many precious seconds of your life you wasted just to get a compliment from a guy who couldn't care less about videogames.
That’s all well and good, but it’s important to remember, just because something is made to be bad intentionally, that doesn’t suddenly mean it’s good. A bad game is a bad game, regardless of intention.
And the same is true for movies.
@@Wolf_Dominic True; I mean... stuff like _Freddy Got Fingered_ and _My Immortal_ exist, and they were made like that on purpose (in the latter case, it's not clear if the writer of _My Immortal_ was "intentionally" making a deranged crack-fic, or sincerely meant the things they wrote, spelling errors and all; but the former, it was *DEFINITIVELY* made to suck, to win a Razzy Award for Worst Movie Ever... and would confuse the likes of Nostalgia Critic and Linkara and so on, who wondered that if something was made to be hated and is loved _because_ of how hated it is, does it count as a "success" or a "failure?" It may logically be an obvious failure, but if it doesn't obey the spirit of it, if it manages to subvert the attempt to categorize it to simply and definitively say that it is ABSOLUTELY garbage, that people by all accounts should despise it and not like it, and sends countless people spiraling down a rabbit hole trying to make sense of something that never made sense in the first place, then what does that mean? I'm scared).
Reminds me of Harlan Ellison and the videogame of I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream. He also disliked the idea of videogames, seeing them as glorified toys as opposed to "true art", but went in to be a co-writer and the voice of AM (main villain). Never saw them as more than that until the day he died.
While making the different routes for the characters, Ellison purposely wanted all of them to have a bad ending. "But that wouldn't make them fun" a developer told him. "GOOD!!!" he answered back. He had to compromise on making segments hard and filled with moon logic.
When asked for a sequel, as some endings are different from that of the original book, Ellison always repeated "NO".
Interesting character Mr. Ellison. He was defiantly a kind man if you knew how to talk to him, but he was able to hold a grudge if you pressed his buttons. When a University teacher told him he "would accomplish nothing in life", Ellison sent him a copy of every published book and award to rub it.
@@RafaelPena-Rios I gotta say, that’s one opinion that some people have, that I can never respect. It’s just such a short sighted, and frankly, stupid belief to have. That video games are nothing more than toys.
From what I've heard Takeshi didn't actually have that much of a part in developing the game. What happened was that the Taito devs went out drinking with him to ask him for ideas and opinions and basically the devs had to create the game from his drunken ramblings that day. Which would explain a fair bit.
Fun fact for the mailing bit at the end: They ACTUALLY make modern day sealing wax that can go through modern mailing systems. I talked to an engaged couple at a Halloween party at my local tabletop store last year who won the costume contest by dressing up as Jon Snow and Daenerys, they were going to use that kind of wax to send out their wedding invitations since it was gonna be medieval themed. Their costumes were REALLY good. That kind of wax comes in either candle form like Jon used or bead form that you have to melt in a spoon over a candle....I think it also comes in the form of a stick that can be used in low temp glue guns.
I think you're avatar may have suffered a stroke. After having witnessed that game i think i have too lol.
"Are we saying this is the original Dark Souls?"
Pffft, Dark Souls wishes it was anywhere near as hard as Takeshi's Challenge.
I'd recommend watching the Game Center CX episode about it. It includes the "real" ending, which Jon didn't show (because of course the real ending is somewhat cryptic bullshit).
The thing about the password screen is that old games like that didn't have a safe functionality. So if you die , you'd usually get a password after you beat a level and then you enter that password in the password screen so that you Can replay from that specific part of the game.
Which makes Jon’s complaints about the fact you had to start from the beginning each time you died confusing
@@BelBelle468 also I've discovered that you can drink tequila at the Bar in the beginning to regenerate health and tapping "A,B" 3 times in rapid succession revives the character.
@@BelBelle468 He probably didn't know how to actually get a password. You have to QUIT the game first and then it'll give you one - if you die, you don't get one.
Funny enough, if you get to that old man and don't beat him up, you'll regret it, you'll make it to the treasure and the old man would come back and kill you at the end of the game kekw
For the record, that old guy that Jon says you have to beat the crap out of; if you don't beat him up after he gives you the map, he'll reappear at the treasure where he will steal it, Game Over-ing you at the last second.
Back to the beginning for you.
I'm pretty sure this game is a mid life crisis in video game form
Can Confirm, have consumed Mormon.
Once they stop Screaming, it's actually really gamey.
Welcome to the original rage game
I have a love-hate relationship with Taito.
On one hand, they make actually decent games. On the other hand, they create some games where I would think FromSoft took some inspiration from, which is their teeth-grinding difficulty spikes.
Nintendo was on some nefarious shit in the 80s.
This was not Dark Souls. Dark Souls is a series known to be very difficult, but fair. This is moreso the first Kaizo, a game that is more comedy sketch than video game, with the jokes all at the expense of the player. Which come to think of it, makes complete sense for Kitano.
You may as well react to takeshi's castle to this extent
I thiiiiink you can recover health in the city by drinking. But on top of everything else, along with the money management part of that, there's not a lot of room for screwing around.
I really hate how you only compare it to Dark Souls because "Difficulty". It's no where near comparable, different genres and all