Land Rover Discovery 3 / LR3 / LR4 Rear Propshaft Replacement - Center Bearing Failure
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- Should you replace the center bearing or the whole shaft? Quick answer, replace the whole shaft if its over 2 years or if inspection of the rear UV joint reveals that is has notching.
It is also much easier to replace the whole rear propshaft ond the disco 3 than to replace the center bearing. It also saves you a lot of time.
To make things clear, it is most often the rubber holding the center bearing, and in turn the rear propshaft, that is the major failing point on the Land Rover Discovery 3 rear driveline. And not the bearing it self, as you will see in the video.
This issue with the failing rubber on the center bearing also concerns the land rover models Discovery 4, LR3, LR4 and RRS.
Note: The RRS has a different propshaft than the Disco series, it's propshaft is a bit shorter. Same bolts I think.
Should you buy OE, OEM or Original Land Rover propshaft. Well from what you will see in the video OEM seem to be good enough and last you 4-6 years depending on the usage. Even with it being Britpart. But stay away from OE parts, OEM or original is the way to go. GKN, bearing seems to be what the Disco pro prefers.
Symptoms on failing rear propshaft on the land rover discovery 3 could be vibrations, humming sounds and even clunking sounds when you apply quick on and off taps on the accelerator.
The symptoms could be because of the center bearing rubber has started to tear, but the vibration and humming sounds could also be because of the notching on the rear universal joint.
Can you replace the rear propshaft on a discovery 3 your self, in your garage at home or on the driveway or even on the street? Yes, you can, with basic tools and some E-torx, inverted torx as I call them, the job is fairly straight forward. I'm not a mechanic so if I can do it you can do it.
Parts:
New Propshaft - OEM lr037027-tvb500360-prop-shaft-rear-discovery-3--4
6 new bolts in the front TYP500180 Bolt
3 new special linking washers. (2 bolts fit in one) TYF500020 Locking Tab
2 new bolts in the center RYG500980 BOLT
4 new bolts in the rear. TYG500130 Bolt
Torque specs Land Rover Discovery 3 Rear Propshaft.
155Nm 110lb.ft rear
30-35Nm 22lb.ft center
73Nm 54lb.ft front
00:00 Land Rover Discovery Rear Propshaft Replacement
01:25 New OEM Propshaft Inspection, tools and new bolts and washers.
08:00 Discovery 3 rear propshaft on the car + heat shield removal.
10:05 Discovery 3 Center Bearing Rubber Failure
10:41 Removing Discovery 3 Rear propshaft
14:10 OE vs OEM vs Original Discovery 3 Propshaft inspection
18:47 Mounting Discovery 3 Rear Propshaft OEM
27:14 Test drive after Discovery 3 Rear propshaft replacement.
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GKN is the one to go for. That said, in both my D3 and Fiona's RRS I replaced the centre bearing and both were done over 2 years ago and still going fine. But you can only do this providing the UJ joints are ok otherwise it's a new complete shaft. No need to mark it if it's a complete new shaft as they are all balanced. Marking is only needed if you split the shaft or if you were removing a good shaft for access as it ensures it goes back in the same place with the assumption that it was fine installed that way before and so should be fine if you are refitting the same one 👍🏻
Agree. The new replacement driveshaft, should be balanced and has nothing to do with previous markings.
Thanks Simon and for the info update, I was thinking the same as I couldn’t find any info on why it should be marked.
Best part about sharing these videos with a community we have here, the info gets updated in the comments so we all can read and learn. Love it. 👍😊
Good to hear about the center bearing replacement, I was thinking of rebuilding one my self just to see how much work it is and to learn if it was needed on a trip. 🤓
@@LandRoverDrive hi Simon, if you do split one then use an engraving tool or scribe to mark the alignment as white pen lines soon disappear when you start splitting them.👍🏻
@@simon-mouse8739 Very smart! Learned this on your own? 😊
Not as salt rusted as I expected! Laying on the floor is never fun. Have a great trip!
Cheers,
Bob & Jill
It has hold up good for the time in and 3-4 salty winters. I think that is also one thing that you get when buying oem vs oe, better coating on the propshaft and maybe better components in general. 🤔 Cheers to you both. 👍😊
Just ordered one too!! Was about to change only the centre bearing bug got a propshaft from febi/bilstein at a good price and the I'll get the old one to getting refurbished and will serve then as a spare just in case! Cheers from Portugal
Nice, it's the way to go I belive, and refurbishing the old one to keep as a spare is a great idea. I should probably have done the same just to test out if I could do it. My main problem as I pointed out in the video was the notching on the rear part, so could potentially start creating vibrations. But as a spare would be fine. Best from Norway, Simon. 👍
Just changed mine yesterday. Absolutely doable, and thanks alot for this video! :) I thought i was getting a GKN one. Ordered from TechnoClassic, LR workshop in Norway. But it says Allmakes4x4 on the box and made in China. So guessing this wont last as long as i want it to.
I think it will be fine for some years. Since you've got it in Norway you always have the 5 years right to complain about the part. 😉 Should last longer than 5 years I would guess. It's an okay job todo, super easy if you got a lift, laying on the garage floor is the hard part. 😅
Great video. Very helpful. Thank you
Glad to hear and thank you for letting me know! 👍😊 Simon
Great work! 👍🏼
Thank you! 😊 Always rewarding to fix stuff in your car yourselves. 👍
Happy wrenching just did the LR3 here
Rover onward with GKN rebuild completely the original some other time😎🔥👍
Nice! All LR3s and Discovery owners will have to join in on the propshaft fun at some point of ownership. 😊
I was thinking of rebuilding one just to see how much time and effort is needed.
Great video thank you!
Thank you Terry and for the info. 🤙😊
FYI, usually you only mark the propshaft if you are replacing all the universal joints, you'd mark all along the propshaft u joints. It's good practice to balance the propshaft after replacing u joints.
Thank you Terry! 😊 I Wasn’t really sure at the time why it manual says to mark it on removal on the D3, but as you say, if you have universal joints at both ends then they need to be marked and lines up. “Phasing” I found the term to be when people talked or wrote about it. I Read a lot about it but couldn’t find anything on why on the disco 3. Maybe if you replace the center bearing and need to align the front and rear part it is smart to mark it.
Well done 😊👍
Thanks Erik! Not the same as having you working on my car though. 😊
Just waiting on you to build your new garage with a lift so we can do the turbo and crossover pipe before it’s too late. 😂
Félicitations très bon travail bravo
Thank you very much! Always a good feeling fixing stuff on the car your self. 👍😊
Feel your pain working on the floor. Still doing that with my three Land Rovers and I am nearly 70. Cardboard is my friend, makes sliding under and out way easier and takes up no valuable vertical space. Underside of your LR3 looks really good. My 2016 RRS td6 has almost a totally rotted away fuel tank cradle which was bad at 45,000m and now at 71,000m really bad. Rubbish design and cheap metal and coating. Good luck on the trip.
I hope I will be able to still do it at 70, that is main goal in life, make a life now that I can live when I’m 70+. Working on cars and going on trips to keep me active. 👍😊
I think mine is rusting from the inside and out, I need to do a proper cleanout and oil it up before it’s too late. 😅
Hello Simon,
thanks for the video and information of the propshaft. I also put a new one underneath. Do you have experience with the following: the parking brake works, but under heavy loads you hear the brake screeching. what could this be? regards
Hey man and sorry for the late reply. Don’t use your EPB until you have serviced your parking brake, it is most likely pulling the brake too far and that’s why you get the sounds.
I have a full series on the EPB on my channel so have a look. I had the same sound and eventually it locked up.
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Another excellent tutorial Simin. You make it look relatively easy...probably woulntbe as much fun on my driveway (no heated garage im afraid).
I'm a little confused by your description of the various driveshafts. You say you had x2 Britpart ones but one was OE and the other OEM...not sure what you mean? 😮
Hehe, I like driveway repairs better, but during the summer when the temps is perfect, 15-20°C. The light is better and the fresh air is golden. 👌
OE is the part spec the car came out of the factory with.
OEM is parts being updated with a later spec due to failures and feedback. So better than OE. OEM is the latest part update other than the an Original part. When Land Rover releases a new update they release the old spec that becomes the new OEM spec.
Original part should have the latest update and therefore be the best. If you don’t look at special parts made by a company that specializes in making that specific part. Like Brembo brakes, usually make better brake components due to them being specialists in the area.
I hope that is clear. 🤔
What's the procedure for jacking up a lr4 with air suspension i would like to do my own maintenance on it but scared to jack it up and mess up the air suspension
Hey and sorry for the late replay. I have never had any issues with jacking the car with or without build mode. But I do use build mode now when I jack up. Garages also use build mode, it keeps the car from leveling when jacked. Basically it turns of the control module for the air suspension. You can get the same result by removing the air suspension fuse in the engine bay fuse holder. Not sure of the number but a quick google and you'll find it. 27 maybe... 👍 But as i said, jacking at home I have never had an issue on my Discovery 3. Simon
I just had mine replaced last week. Bought an Amazon one and looks just like the one it had. I wonder what makes them all different?
I think it’s the components used to make the propshaft. I see a lot recommending the GKN version, I think it’s referring to the GKN bearing in the center.
Other than that I think maybe how it’s painted and coated and how it’s handle the elements, like the salty winter roads we see here in Norway.
Takk for videoene du lager. Må nok gjennom samme selv, hvor mye kostet den nye akslingen? Var symptomene lett vibrasjon? Har litt vibrasjon opptil 70 kmt, spesielt rundt 60kmt
Hei og takk! Jeg syns det er bare morro å dele erfaringer som kan hjelpe andre. Lett vibrasjon ja, slik du kjenner i rompa når du kjenner bilen din godt. 😊 Du vet det er noe som ikke er helt som det skal. Men jeg kjører til gummien rundt senter blir dårlig også bytter jeg. Kan generelt være litt vibrasjoner av ulike grunner, som at dekkene ikke er helt runde fordi bilen har stått en stund. 60-70km/t under pådrag?
@@LandRoverDrive ikke under pådrag. Måtte ut og se nå, ser ut for at lageret er byttet, men forsegling var ikke bra. Nettopp kjøpt bilen og finner ut av ting etterhvert. Mistenker at felgene er en del av problemet.
Ja, fint å starte med hjul og felger. Billig å få dem sjekket og avbalansert. Hvis du kan få se når de gjør det så hjelper det også, så vet du hvordan tilstanden er. Mine nye dekk på de felgene jeg lakkerte ble ikke 100% men bra nok så man ikke merker vibrasjoner.
Prisen på akslingen husker jeg ikke, men ikke horribelt. 😊
Å gjøre ting selv etterhvert er en fin måte å bli kjent med bilen på. Er en del videoen på kanalen om hva jeg her gjort med bilen og hvordan jeg fikset det så du står ikke alene. 👍
Am I right ? No of these tree shafts is the from the car when it was built in 2006 .
That’s correct, I replaced an original prop shaft when put in the first one.
Not sure if that one was a replacement or if it was on the car when it was built.
The car had 100k km on the clock when I bought it, so these three are for the 126k km I have driven.
One later today and I’m at 240k km in total and the latest prop shaft has been on for 15k km now. Still good. 👍
Car was built in 2007, it’s a 2008 model year.
But did you consider a orginal Land Rover shaft ? @@LandRoverDrive
Can't remember the first time, I think cost was a big issue back then. Only way I could afford getting and owning the Discovery was to repair and work on the car my self.
And I guess I didn't know better. 😊
Now the best option is the GKN version in terms of durability and price.
Maybe I will go original on the next one to see if it holds longer than the GKN one I have on now. 🤔
great video bro keep sending them did that drive shaft have grease nipples to pump some grease in the joints just asking from jamaica
Thanks from Norway! I don't have grease nipples on mine but would have liked to have seen some on the rear u-joint. I think some of them have it but the ones that I have used so far haven't. Best Simon.
@@LandRoverDrive koool
5 years and how many km in that time? My D4 is just over 100,000km on the original with no issues so far. 8 Years old. Maybe I need to check it.
Due to coronavirus and home office the following years I have an average of 14000km a year, owned it for 10 years no 24. Feb. So I’m guessing 70-90000km, salty winter roads, overlanding and 2-3 off-road adventures.
For the center bearing rubber you can just bend down the front tip of heatshield and then you can inspect it. 👍😊
Hello Simon bonjour 👋 de France
Hello back from Norway! Or from Sweden at the moment. 🏔️❄️ Where in France?
Hey man! Had a question, I have a LR3. I borrowed it to my uncle and he broke it, like now the dashboard goes crazy as heck! You know what that can be?
Welcome to owning an LR3!
😂😂 Sadly true, but also the fun. And you are never alone. 👍
Sound’s electrical, any other symptoms? I would start checking the battery and alternators if the cars charging. It is very power hungry.
The brake light switch is also a thing to check. And only use original bulbs in the lights. Led-bulbs could rake havoc on the electrical system.
Then check the connectors behind the battery if there has been any water intrusion.
What did your uncle do?
Hello Simon bode France 😊😊
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I replaced with gkn and now have a vibration from the rear of the car that i can not work out 😢
Hmm, did you get a vibration straight away after the replacement or after a while? And have you changed anything else?
Could be a bad propshaft, so if you rule out everything else then you can ask for a new one.
Yes it was noticeable straight away around 60mph.i have cleaned everything up and replaced again but it still vibrates at this speed..
My last resort is to fit the old prop again to see if the vibration disappears
Yeah, would check that. Just back home from a 1100km trip and no issues with mine after one year of the prop being installed. Does the vibration change with speed?
@LandRoverDrive The vibration only happens after 60mph..it is quite hard for me to see if the vibration goes away at higher speeds because I'm quite far from fast roads..
I am planning on swapping to the old prop and today to see if the vibration vanishes...
Hope we get to see your trip in future videos 👍
@@MrLjbikes Yeah, do that and let me know what you find out. Will start on the trip video soon so it's coming. 👍
Pense tu qu'il faudrale graisser pour qu'il dure plus longtemps et qu'il ne seche pas surtout avec le sel chez toi 😊😂
I think that is very wise and if I had a lift for easy access I would probably do that and probably a lot of other, should have done” jobs. 😊
The whole car should have been cleaned and dipole in oil. 😂