If you or someone you know is considering coming off of psychiatric drugs, here are some educational resources: www.madinamerica.com/ withdrawal.theinnercompass.org/ breggin.com/a-guide-for-prescribers-therapists-patients-and-their-families/ medicatingnormal.com/psychiatric-drug-withdrawal/
hi, willing to get in touch with you, i am taking medications and listening to congolese voices, but i know that someone is doing a trumanshow with my head and i can prove it
I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was 13, and given Ritalin. I began staying up for days at a time and in response started drinking until I blacked out every night so I could go to sleep. I was given a couple of other diagnoses, then finally paranoid schizophrenia. I was on thousands of milligrams of thorazine a day. I was non-functional and flunked out of high school. I refused to take thorazine anymore, & got made a word of the state. I was an alcoholic drinker until I was 32, when I basically started life all over again after I quit drinking. I'm still recovering.
@@beabeauty We all face challenges in life. Mine started a little early, that's all. I guess you could say I got a head start lol. Psychedelics made a huge difference for me. Unlocked a lot of things and helped me find god, let go of the past, stop drinking, and start living life with hope & inspiration. Been a long, strange trip, & I still have a long way to go. Differences that now I'm looking forward to the journey. I'm extremely grateful that I got away from the psych meds.
This was incredible. I want all his books. My father passed away and tried to commit suicide.. I only know of one time. He was on so many drugs and my family hated me trying to intervene and help him. He was so fragile and my mother was and is a malignant narcissist. She wanted him on the pills. His funeral was the last time I saw my sister and mother. They neglected his cries for help and punished me for trying to help him. I miss him but when he died I was relieved for him as he was so tormented in his marriage. Thank you for this information and interview.
In the English MH system you break a free door@#?£! Somewhere something's got something on you that CSI investigations propigated secrets in the people who don't know real wisdom from making the sick undesirable.
Peter is so right that one of the first things we have to do is to ban coorcive treatment and to demand fully informed consent for all 'treatments'. Class actions against psychiatry must occur too to make the politicians act.
Try working in a psych hospital in an admission unit for 6 months and come back and tell us how you're against coercive treatment. In an ideal world I wish otherwise, but the reality is there are some VERY scary people out there who, bc of their mental illness, might jeopardize your safety bc they've lost touch with reality.
@@oopalonga Those people became SCARY bc of psych meds. Just bc some1 doesn't like how another person behaves DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY NEED (PSYCH) MEDS!!!!!
@@Jahfriend Exactly the fuckin' point. Psych meds r simply "chemical pacifiers" (i.e.: designed 2 silence u when getting abused, bullied, & harassed by other people; especially RE: those deemed as "authority figures" such as law enforcement officers, judges/justices, court employees, medical/mental health personnel, etc.). So much easier 2 medic8 than communic8. Furthermore; name another branch of health care where some1 can b subjected 2 criminal prosecution bc of an involuntary mental health hospitalization.
Been there mate lost both my parents in 20s child abuse by mum's boyfriend bad physical and mental abuse when I was 7 to 13 and then set up by police which I didn't know nothing about in 20s till years laters cost me some good friends. I went for help off my GP when I was early 20s for child abuse unresolved and losing parents given an ssri was on it long time told safe etc I was a young person vulnerable at the time but believed my gp. Was on it 13 years seroxat gp cold turkeyed me off it 10 mg I've been off 11 years have lots off disabling effects to this day that didn't come out till stopping was part off UK litigation got know where all denied so I'm an example off what can happen to a vunerable young person who goes to a gp for help. There is no real help and it is a crime against humanity like he says people would never believe it till they have been there
I know this podcast was a year ago but there is this case in the US of a 11-year-old girl diagnosed with a rare onset childhood schizophrenia psychosis she had an outburst and was court ordered to take heavy psychotropic medications. Her first evaluation her IQ was 142 a year after being medicated her IQ went down to 60. A once brilliant preteen who is now 20 is most definitely a crime against humanity. You can scream on top of a mountain and no one will listen to help her. 💔
In Czech Republic is a lady who is the owner of 7 Pharma stores, she made an interview about a year ago, after the covid, saying that often she meets elderly people She is telling them good advice, please get off the medications as much as possible, Dont watch the news at night, to get nervous, because it triggers you to eat sleep pills, Rather spend time in nature, go for a walk, exercise. Even pharma owners as she is, are against the overuse of drugs. She saw an elderly couple eating the same set of drugs, because it was convenient for the couple, to go to a pharma store and save time, or whatever reason they had. Dont be fooled by the system. Its ridiculous. Two people can not have the same diagnosis. They may have the same symptoms from the same drugs... But not the same cause of illness. Everybody is different. Drugs should be short-term, but not long-term. Drugs should heal, not cause other health problems. She says The pills have a side effect, which means the doctors prescribe another pill that slow down the side effects of the first drugs, it becomes a vicious circle, where the elderly people have to take pill after pill, a handful of pills and its a never-ending vicious circle. She herself said she wants to live a long life without unnecessary drugs. You may sell candies but ethical sellers will tell you eat less. They will tell you eat 75 percent of nutrients at least, in one year. She said if sellers run out the supplies, the companies push the pharmacy sellers, to offer their medications, from a different company. Pharma sellers can be very good people, but they are used as well. Dr. Anna Lembke also in the videos explained how the doctors were lying about the fact that the opioid drugs that heal depression, have no effect on health,...actually it's the opposite. The long-term use may contribute to depression if you dont heal the cause of depression. Dr. Bruce Lipton said that the medical statistics about cholesterol are untrue as well because they make an assumption of some statistics, and create some middle number, but the statistics are nonsense because every patient has a different body. They can not make statistics based on different body types. He said medics are taught in school just to prescribe the drugs. He is right. Especially if some people are willing to exercise, eat healthy, do healthy hobbies.... When and which doctor asked the patient, how much water you drink, water is gratis, how much exercise you take every day, exercise is gratis, therefore they dont ask it and they were not trained in medical school to ask such questions. Why they dont make statistics about the healthy hobbies, that create healthy hormones in the body, for free. Walking in the forest and in nature increases your immune system by 30 to 40 percent. The air you breathe in nature, also activates the hormone of creativity, because of more oxygen gets into your brain. Dr. Joe Dispenza says Happy mood increases your immune system in 4 days by 50 percent. It activates the T cells, which fight bacteria, viruses cancer etc. Dr. Joe Dispenza explains the body is the greatest pharmacy in the world, which means no matter what age you are young or old, your body is able to heal itself and create its own healthy hormones by using meditation, metacognition and other techniques that dont cost you any money.
@@billybandyk0720 Giving people DSM labels is much like adolescent usurpation - then its neurotoxic drugs/ECT, which reduce people to beasts and long term cash cows!
I totally agree that psychiatry is a disgrace. I also spent my whole life in proper medicine, with diseases which were real, understood and confirmed by tests. Effects of treatment can thereafter be measured by tests and scientific assessment. Psychiatry is different. A specialty of opinions, populated by unusual 'doctors', with no diagnostic tests, and a huge reliance on the pharmaceutical industry. I agree that more harm is done by psychiatry than good, and it is a 20th, 21st century disaster. If it were to be abandoned there would be a marked improvement in world health.
I agree, but what is often overlooked is how modern psychiatry is really very much historically conditioned by its horrifying roots. Prozac/Zoloft is not so different from the labotomy, which severs neurological connections in a physical way rather then through chemical inhibition. The way we think of people with mental health conditions - as unreliable narrators who don't live in reality - means we never actually learn about the primary phenomenon, for example the process we call a 'psychosis'. In my experience as a sufferer who has not sought to hault it chemically as a solution but has tried to watch it impartially and go through it, a 'psychosis' is a purposive process, embued with meaning and intelligence far beyond the ordinary intellect, is ordered and purposive, and if allowed to flower, which is rare in this society, it culminates in at least a re-organization if not a fundamental transformation in the sense of self and reality. I don't pretend to know anything more about it, but what is very clear is a) it's a phenomenon which as a society we are far from understanding, b) we can only learn about it through accurate descriptions of the experience from those who undergo it, and c) modern psychiatry will not let anyone go through it (with support, in a safe environment) - they have already decided it's a meaningless fantasy, the random firing of axons or whatever, and has no hermeneutic value whatsoever. I say it is a means of exploring consciousness way beyond the known limits of the ordinary, egoic mind. It's like taking a psychadelic but is intrinsically very meaningful and ingeneous - I could never, given a hundred years, create a visual and intellectual narrative that remotely compares to a single psychotic episode (it's not merely 'hearing voices' for me - and even that isolated phenomenon is thoroughly interesting and suggestive of intelligence that goes beyond the known mind). The prejudices of psychiatry, society and medicine in general prevent us even entertaining the idea of discovering all that is there to be discovered from psychosis, let alone all the other conditions.
I’ve been in hospital now for about.. 7 years ... I’m tired and worn out.. have been on almost all the...antipsychotics and mood- destabilisers... ( pun intended ) ... I can’t think straight... once you’ve had a label slapped on you ; they seem to have carte-blanch to feed you anything they like... It’s hell in here.. how can I put myself forward to a tribunal, in an adequate way when my logic and sense of well-being is so compromised.. please any help would be welcome..?
@@lovewavesdriftingforever I'm not a psychiatrist, or any kind of expert really. But I'm going through something similar and I know the position you're in - I've been there. You need to find an advocate - someone who's on your side that you can trust who will go to bat for you.
he is not a hero he says nothing about diet and exercise he says eat what you want LIE we all have natural laws that we have to obey read Genesis 1:29 God gave man his diet, we ALL have toxins and mucus in our bodies that cause disease because on a junk food diet only vegan diet along with exercise,fresh air, water can we cleanse the body, BE CAREFUL WHO YOU LISTEN TOO!
@@brandoncombs5561 Maybe a new US Supreme Court Case can rule coercive psychiatry as conflicting with 8th Amendment against cruel punishment. Maybe US Supreme Court will rule coercive psychiatry as illegal (conflicting with US Constitution) for a different reason.
@@MichaelTenQi Which is this? I could really use a law like this as I am literally writing this from the Oregon State Hospital during my "computer lab" time. I am trying to assemble as many advocates as possible for this issue.
@@brandoncombs5561 Huh? Are you entitled to a lawyer? Do you have one? Between 2 and 4 states have outlawed the insanity defense. If I am remembering correctly, contemporary of Szasz once wrote a message to me that the insanity defense is really "false mercy". According to Szasz, civil commitment and the insanity defense form the foundations of psychiatric slavery.
@@brandoncombs5561 Oh. Is there a law library Oregon State Hospital? OSH is supposedly a "hospital", but it functions as a prison. Szasz wrote a book entitled Psychiatric Slavery, which is about the US Supreme Court Case, O'Connor vs. Donaldson. I am suggesting, that the right person, with the right lawyer could potentially help to have psychiatric coercion declared unconstitutional. That may not be an easy road. Suggest it to any allies that you might know or have at OSH, if you want to. Inner and outer peace to you. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Connor_v._Donaldson
People don’t protest, because when faced with mental health crises within themselves or their families, they reach for, what they believe/been told, is the quickest and most impactful response to a frightful situation. Thank you for this presentation. Dr. Peter Gøtzsche has provided me the needed clarity in which to frame the psychiatric “dog and pony show” to which I’ve been subjected since incurring my physical disability. Deeply grateful.
I LOVE this Dr..finally a Dr who can think for himself ! The fact that family doctors who know very little abt Psychiatric disorders are giving you a diagnosis of depression based on a questionnaire and then prescribing you drugs which you take, trusting them that they are 'safe' is now abhorrent to me as I near 60 years old. i was literally prescribed TEN different AD's over a ten year period, each time I went back to the Dr, try this new one . TEN !! Why did my Dr not say - well obviously you DO NOT have a chemical imbalance in your brain, otherwise one of these drugs would work and you could actually tolerate the side effects. THEY ARE POISONING US WITH PHRAMA MEDS. that is the bottom line. While they sail around the world on their super yachts we SUFFER.
I'm with Nick on the item of vitamins and nutrition influencing mental health. Absence of proof is not proof of absence. It stands to reason that body and mind are intimately connected, in fact they are ONE system. If we eat healthily, drink little or no alcohol, exercise regularly (even moderate exercise such as walking 40 minutes a day), keep a degree of social contact, our thoughts are bound to be healthier, whether we have a diagnosis or not. It is not a coincidence that people who suffer from poor mental health often resist changing their poor habits in terms of nutrition, addiction to substances, and avoidance of exercise. Just one example among the numerous ones: Wim Hoff teaches the powerful relationship between mind and body.
So, so true! To feel is to heal! To sit with trauma, grief, hyperventilating & just let it be ok! Fixing nothing. Just allowing it to be felt...sooner or later...it works it’s way out of the body! I had learned this from my meditation teacher who studied in India! A great help! If people are allowed to deal with it! 🙏🏼
“Sorrow ends only when there is the light of understanding, and this light is not lit by one experience or by one flash of understanding; this understanding is lighting itself all the time. Nobody can give it to you - no book, trick, teacher or saviour. The understanding of yourself is the ending of sorrow.” - J. Krishnamurti ✨
Many symptoms are due to a reaction to ultra processed toxic foods. Research a keto diet. Eliminating all processed foods, all sodas, all vegetable oils, and most carbs.
In my opinion, modern psychology and psychiatry have primarily become about controlling the human and the human mind. Not about aiding and assisting it! Currently this may be societys biggest problem and could even be the end of it! Peace ✌️
Recently, I told a psychiatrist (via telehealth) that I thought his entire field was bullshit and had caused me nothing but harm. He said, "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater." I told him most of the babies were dead and that the rest were poisoned and would soon follow suit. I was talking about psychiatrists and the whole damn system. The person monitoring the televisit smiled. I'm wondering if she agreed with me. Even the psychiatrist seemed to appreciate my metaphor, although I'm wondering if his smile was more of smirk. Fast forward several months. Now I'm even more certain psychiatry is bunk, as is "talk therapy." It's all bunk. My entire life was wasted because I believed in these shysters.
Fantastic discussion. I'm 18 months into tapering off of paxil after being put on it at 10 years old. I took paxil for 24 years because I believed I had a "chemical imbalance." The pills numbed me but didnt cause much noticable harm until my dose was doubled at the age of 30. Then I became manic and had suicidal ideation for months. Neither of which I had ever experienced before. I was originally put on paxil for OCD/anxiety, not depression. The ordeal of doubling my dose was traumatic and horrifying but I am thankful for it because it eventually led me down my current path of healing. Over the past few years I've learned so much about how incorrect I was to believe that the drug I was on was my "medication." Researching SSRIs and withdrawal was a total paradigm shift and that in itself came with grief and anger, which I'm still processing. I fired my psychiatrist and found a supportive doctor. But really, doctors don't know anything about coming off psych drugs. I credit online forums, Heather Ashton, and doctors/speakers like Peter/Joanna/Whitaker in learning how to self-direct my own taper. I'm down from 40mg to 7mg and even though the withdrawals suck, the entire experience has been transformative. I'm finally "waking up" emotionally after so many years of dulled feelings. Life is beautiful and expansive and comes with a full range of pleasure and pain. My withdrawal process has also turned me from an atheist into someone who now believes there is much more to the world than I may ever fully understand. Thank you for this and your other discussions on psychiatry and the dangers of psych drugs. Healing is possible!!
Yep I totaly agree with you on that, doctors know jackshit about withdrawal from antidepressants or antipsychotics, even worse they deny these withdrawals.
After yrs on a Benzodiazepine, I could not be anesthetized for 2 colonoscopies! It’s fine if your size Medium, but not if extra small size! One becomes so sedated over time, that one wonders why one has no life, as it’s so gradual, one is dead inside...until one is withdrawing, hopefully, safely by a micro taper! But once so harmed, how can patients EVER trust an MD again? {Thank you, Psychopharmachologist, C. Heather Ashton, & Psycholgist, Will Hall, for your truth, help & those amazing souls who have come off by yourselves or too fast by your MDs...Heaven help us all survive psychiatry! Thank YOU, Prof. Peter Gotzsche & Nick Fortina 🙏🏼 (Love Joanna Moncrieff!)} Thank goodness there is a zoom support group for us to talk about the pros & cons of these things.
100% of doctors aren't trained in nutrition we have to be our own doctors and help ourselves if we expect to be healthy, i've been a strict vegan for 36 years along with exercise etc we must help ourselves, fasting is a good health benefit i've done it many times!
As a shrink survivor, I recommend rejecting nonsensical theories of the mind such as dualism or genetic predisposition. The hardware was always fine, I just needed software debugging. Namely, acknowledging that I alone am free to tune my personality as I wish.
@@dmahadeo really?? I’ve not heard of this! There’s hope? Is this a paper not in the US? (I’m trying to heal from benzo withdrawal after being prescribed this for about almost 30 years...have been coming off about 7 years & trying to have some quality of life while doing it...and still gain back my memory, executive function, hair that’s falling out, be able to read a book & retain the info longer than a month. Still...at least I can understand a book now, when I’m reading it...mostly. 😱. Before...I lost my car, had temporary dementia from coming off at 35%/month! I had no idea I was under-dosing myself back then! I could not read or pay attention, horrendous withdrawal symptoms, have hardly any energy & now have to move to Heaven knows where. No close family, almost all close friends have moved & 2 of the last 3 are moving soon so far away, I’ll probably never see them again. This is HORRENDOUS! 🤬
@@cynthiaennis3107 sorry about the lack of social support. It helps, but I still believe you can pull through. I was institutionalised in the early 1990s - attempted suicide, etc. I think I probably struggled with mental health all my life. I am 57 years now and though I have been through a terrible divorce, lost house and almost lost children totally, etc. I am back with a bang - health wise, mentally, every which way. There were times I took about 30 mg of Valium and knocked it back with 2 shots of scotch just to get a couple hours of sleep. Now? now I barely take a Tylenol. I am so wary of pharmaceuticals. Try a carnivore diet for a couple of months. In the first few weeks everything will get worse, but if you endure it and just hang in there you may start to see results that will amaze you. What have you got to lose?
@@dmahadeo that’s wonderful news about how you survived all of that! I thank you for the pep talk & the advice! I’ll try it out! I don’t take any medicine except that from which I’m withdrawing, either! You have amazing...perseverance! We have a few similarities, same age, divorced, but no children of my own. And I’m so happy you have your children! Best wishes for your best life! I’m grateful you answered! Thanks again! 🙏🏼
Many of us have been dumping grounds for all sorts of these drugs! And there’s no responsibility for ruining lives, nor for killing people, unless it’s a class action law suit for wrongful death due to suicide...and no living patients receive any compensation, as far as I have seen in the US.
right i've been a strict vegan for 36 years and yet i still have toxins and mucus in my body we ALL do, only short fastings, fruit, exercise, can cleasnse the body and our precious blood, just read Genesis 1:29!
Also, the toxic, unnnatural and destructive social, cultural and economic conditions we have created for ourselves and subjected all our children to? It's a wonder we're not all incapacitated by insanity (or perhaps we are!)
It's a little funny to see (some of) mainstream psychiatry cast about and grasp at gut inflammation as yet another etiology. Not that it's impossible or even unlikely that that sort of thing could affect mental health but it's just... the same old framing as it was with "chemical imbalances", and of course this doesn't replace anything that came before it, because no one can ever admit fault, and likewise has no meaningful evidence. But hey, if a doctor starts coercing people to eat yogurt I don't think many will have the same sort of problem with it. Of course most institutionalists say it's "anti-psychiatry" and those that talk about inflammation are "minor rebels" I guess. Another bit of theater.
Yes. 100% toxic food and environment Will affect the nervous system. The gut is a part of it not all. The environment includes mental stimulants. Turn off the TV.
He clearly works for pharma. Infiltrate and lead the oposition. Will give you what you want to hear and then lead you astray. Saying that alternative medicine is bad, nutrition has nothing to do and promoting the v. Why is the interviewer afraid to argue with him? Open your eyes. Read between the lines.
I do disagree about the alternative or vitamin use. I am an example of my health improving tremendously, in withdrawal, health, not only physically, but mentally. I will disregard what he said on this. He might not have experienced malnutrition or any of these issues that diet, exercise, and spiritual input help tremendously. Everything else I will agree. I glean what I read or hear and apply everything that applies to me in my body, which is personal. I’m so glad I’m listening and will read his books and apply what will work for me. Thank you.❤️
Wonderful interview! I do have to interject though…for the benefit of anyone who may walk away confused about his opinion in nutrition and mental health. He is entitled to it, of course. And he mentioned the mantra “Don’t worry. Be happy.” would be beneficial to just about everyone’s mental health! Agreed! The power of the placebo or attitude of the mind is absolutely unequivocal! BUT…processed foods, industrial seed oils, sugar, and nutritional deficiencies will absolutely affect mental health! Inflammation of the brain and nervous system from the aforementioned toxicity cannot be ignored in the treatment and healing of mental health issues. I was rather disappointed in his casual rejection of the notion. Still much respect. I know we can’t all agree on all things. ❤️
Peter says nothing about nutrition he says eat what you want WRONG we have natural laws we must obey to be healthy God gave us his diet in Genesis 1:29 along with exercise, fresh air, water etc we ALL have toxins and mucus in our bodies, fastings, fruits cleanse the body, i'm doing it now i've been a strict vegan for 36 years and i still got depressed now i have the withdrawal from the meds i'm taking!
I'm with you, 100%!! Factory food is poison - "big food" is just as corrupt and killing as many people as "big pharma"... and there are certain vitamin deficiencies that dramatically affect the brain. I know this first hand!
My life was spoiled because of these pills. Now I have to live with that realization. It's not easy. I feel like I was abducted, raped and robbed by psychiatry and the "mental health system" and their demoralizing and brain-damaging treatments. I am 68. Recovery now, at this late date?? I was lied to, and it cost me all.
I’m so sorry this happened to you, the truth of all this madness will come out eventually but more importantly I hope you find happiness going forward.
Research the carnivore life style. It will change everything for you, even at this age. I am almost 80 and been on it for 1 year, you will not believe the difference it makes in your body in you mental outlook and in your confidence. Try it just for 1 months. It's all over on yt.
I just turned 38. My nervous system has been fried for many years now (ME/CFS). I've done extensive reading from all of these Psychotropic Drug Whistleblowers since early this year, and I finally learned why I have ME/CFS. It's not because of an STD (never had one) or a post-cold/virus/flu shit. I've been on disability since 28. Protracted WIthdrawal and Limbic Kindling is VERY REAL. I can barely leave the house and spend most of my time lying down. The ironic thing is that I look like a fitness model, but I stopped being able to exercise a handful of yrs ago. I've lost everything. I live a very isolated life on Reddit. I have yet to contract COVID-19, and it's not my responsibility if someone gets angry seeing me wear an N95 or N99.
@@Vancouver_1986 My dear, you are way too young to be so down. I am 78 and I will tell you the best years in life are between 50 and 70. That's when we are mature and still have lots of energy or we are supposed to. After 70, we get a bit slower. Anyway, I have a suggestion for you: try a carnivore diet for 3 months. Just for 3 months. I'll just give you a few names you can look up on yt. Dr. Ken Berry, Dr. Anthony Chaffee, Steak and Butte gal, Kelly Hogan.... there are many more but you will find them all in time. Just do some looking into it. It's not a diet to lose weight, it is to get healthy in a very profound way. Your best years are still ahead of you.
Very good talk, thank you! There is also another risk associated with " depression pills". That is the physical harm such as metabolic syndrome, diabetes, weight gain and several other life shortening illnesses.
FEAR - that is why people don't demonstrate. They have no where else to turn if they throw out psychiatry. Education, awareness and advice from people like both you fine gentlemen will help people stand up from underneath this life destroying megaton of poison. Thank you for your caring, sensible discussion. It has been so enlightening with a promise of a brighter future. Please God.
Thank you Sir for your tireless sharing. I will continue to share your work n make what you have started never ceased during my life time. You have built YOUR LEGACY Stay safe n take care Dr Peter.
Thank you dear doctor. Finally an honest doctor! Brilliant conversation gentleman. They render people incapable, that was my experience. On psychological drugs.
I agree ! The vitamin thing is a wash!but I know that for years a vitamin deficiency caused me mental issues along with psychiatric pills! Magnesium and vitamin d and a corrected this! Light deprivation also was an issue!
@@Blahblahblahblah666 I've found that regular exercise, cutting out added sugar / alternative sweeteners / salt / MSG, and cutting out "junk" entertainment (mindless TV shows, movies, music, video games, etc) were all critical pieces that helped me to eliminate my own depression and anxiety permanently since 2010. May I ask what you have found that has been helpful to you?
Very late comment here, but thank you for the interview. You are a good listener, and I love how Gotzsche does not mince words. The only bit I would disagree with is your statement that although psychiatry's house is rotten to the foundations, psychology has a "very solid house." I'm not so sure about that! And I say that as a (now retired) clinical psychologist. We have plenty of problems with our own pseudo-scientific pretensions, foundations built upon fraud, a history of treatments that have not just failed but done demonstrable harm, many current reports of people being harmed by therapy, many ineffectual practitioners, the destructive infusion of "woke" groupthink into training programs, and, last but not least, our complicity with psychiatry's medical model. We use the DSM, refer and defer to psychiatrists, and "prove" the efficacy of therapy by showing that it produces equivalent outcomes to antidepressants -- as if that is something to brag about! I don't mean to sound overly negative. I think psychology does a lot of good. It is not as bad as psychiatry -- at least we don't prescribe harmful drugs (although some psychologists have pushed for this) -- but we have plenty of problems of our own. There are many detractors and plenty of legitimate complaints.
There was a psychiatrist called Dr William Glasser who taught Choice Theory he's wrote many books criticising the the DSM 4 at the time. He wrote a book called " psychiatry can be hazardous to your mental health" an excellent depiction of what's wrong in the world of psychiatry. I'm a Gestalt Psychotherapist, I have retired recently. I have always believed people have the capacity to sort out their own lives problems with support.
Dr. Gotsche talks about class action suits against the Harm caused by these drugs. If you know of a place to report damage done by drugs, please leave the information here. My husband was hurt by a drug Nuplazid.
I think the harm is intentional. Psychiatry at local levels sees itself as neutralising children and people who are seen as socially problematic for one reason or another. The disabling mechanisms of the drugs are the cure. There are cases where it may be necessary but it is horrific to see how young people are being abused by this system . It is ideological not based on real scientific diligence.
What scares me is in Ontario Canada the public health care plan does not pay for Psychologists. If a person is distressed and they don't have money or an extended health care plan, their choices are to consult with a Psychiatrist or a Family Doctor. These visits, as you identified in the show, will result with the person being sent home with a prescription. It's very scary.
You are so right. I also live in Ontario & my doctor is always prescribing drugs. When I told him I wanted some counseling instead of drugs he said you can do all the talking in the world & it won’t help. Take this (new) drug instead
The patients can't fight against the doctors that they depend on for the medications they are physically dependent on because the withdrawal is too horrendous.
and many times doctors tell them those very real withdrawal symptoms arent real, and its just a return of their mental illness when they quit taking it. its either ignorance or gaslighting
I'm dying every day. I was on many drugs for my OCD and then they misdiagnosed me with bipolar put me on many other drugs my life is over. It's been six months. I am off my meds, but it's like nightmare😢 Akhatisia,anhedonia, cognitive impairment, insomnia, DPDR, racing thoughts, and severe mood swings،Hyper sensitive nervous system. Hyper salivation,horrofic nightmare. I'm getting worse every day. I can't take it anymore 😢😢 I really want to live, but I can't take it anymore. I am so close to suside everyday.
I also agree at the end with the need for international movement demonstrations against psychiatry,I think it is happening in parts as there have been people demonstrating outside of the American psychiatric institute.There does also need to be law suits and it needs to become a major human rights abuse and legal cases need to be brought against psychiatry as an institution. I also have to say I do not think psychology has all the answers either and there are many things problematic with some practices in psychology,it is by no means benign alternative to all of psychiatry and I think he is right in saying that people can get support in other ways. Also great idea bout getting all those others together sometimes,think that would be great but you are doing a great great job...keeping this discussion going ..bringing it to the table again and again,its much needed.
My children's mother has been on psychiatric medications since she was a teenager. I think they make her sick. I think her mom has been doing everything she could to keep her sick since she was a kid.she's dragging us all through court for custody right now, and trying to push my daughter into an ADHD diagnosis - I suspect so that she can get her medicated, just like I was.
Or when withdrawing too fast by accident or on purpose if the hell of the withdrawal is not worth all the suffering & isolation & taking years to do so.
@@cynthiaennis3107 i've gotten off zoloft and zeprexa cold turkey the last 2 months and my suicide feelings and thoughts have gone up i'm just going do talk therapy,Dr Peter Breggin treats with Love and kindness!
I’m glad you brought up Abram Hoffers book on orthomolecular medicine. The vitamin therapy worked beautifully for my mother-in-law who had become an alcoholic after her husband died.
It took me so many years to get off SSRIs (and a short stint on SNRIs). I took so many supplements to try and prop me up while I weaned off the meds. Eventually, I was on half of the lowest dose for a few years plus many supplements. It was actually reading Peter Gøtsche’s book “Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime” that helped me finally stop taking the meds and then all the supplements a few months later. I’d love to know if Peter knows much about the new field of “amino acids”, for example 5HTP.
I had a very serious suicide attempt following prescription of Prozac. I never had a suicidal thought before Prozac. Severe restlessness and increase in anxiety, sweating, insomnia manic chronic alcoholism and carelessness. Diagnosis Chronic Anxiety (GAD) Generalised Anxiety Disorder.
I was originally put on 80mg of Prozac for several weeks , for feeling increasingly depressed. Unfortunately, it had the exact opposite effect. I became paranoid, unable to sleep and eventually became psychotic. While I was able to work with troubled kids in a psychiatric private practice without being notably troubled, at time after work I was drinking and spending the night walking my house perimeter, armed to the teeth. I wound up losing my job, being divorced and being hospitalized against will. This started a journey of being hospitalized 23 times , mostly against my will , over the next twenty t years.
@@clinttaylor4032 Whoever prescribed you 80mg of Prozac should be shot Maximum dose 60mg in extreme cases. I just quit Duloxetine (Cymbalta) after 3 weeks. I was more anxious, depressed and suicidal. Antidepressants are overprescribed and very dangerous. I live in UK. 6 million people are on them.
1:10:24 Imo the medical degree is superfluous and expensive. Why not require them to go to pharmacology school, to know and understand what they prescribe, and also require them to have an understanding of psychology, if they want to treat people's minds? Also, the issue with the pharmaceutical end of this needs changes. Imo one of the reasons big pharma has gotten away with recycling drugs which fail for other applications and purposes into the mental health system is the marginalization of those designated by big pharma to help them recoup their research and development costs.
45:00 There is a difference between real vitamins found in food and synthetic vitamins. The trials where negative effects are shown are usually synthetic - like with the B vitamins. Same with minerals. Calcium in supplement form seems to be pretty dangerous, but calcium from food is not.
"fatigue, indigestion, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, mouth sores, a swollen bright red tongue, poor circulation, and depressed mood. Cracked scaly skin that is highly sensitive to the sun" I think you were probably right in saying vitamin B3 would help with withdrawal IF the person doesn't get enough, of course. A person who eats loads of high B3 food probably wont see any benefit. *MUST BE FROM REAL FOOD - GET YOUR B VITAMINS FROM BEEF LIVER OR OTHER WHOLEFOODS*
@@colinthomson5358 and make sure it’s good quality no hormones or antibiotics used during animals life.organic or free range chicken liver is also great source of b vitamins.
If the patients take to the streets about this, they may reap repercussions of possible drugs stopped all at once! If not on long, that may not be harmful, but if on many years...it could be fatal! But those who have gotten off safely are slowly opening the eyes of the psychiatrists who are humble enough to believe they might learn something from their patients! I’ve heard of this happening in Denver, Colorado! Change is slow, but it’s change! Thank you! This was a great interview! Thank you, both! He is a great change agent! Yes! Still listening!
There was a Group that would go to court each year to try to have patients informed about the dangers of Benzodiazepines upfront, but I was told, if I did not stop my comments on their FB group, that they would ban me for speaking out! They then told me when they go to court about this matter, “the Harvard boys” would show up & complain & they always get their way in court! (USA)
Wonderful interview! It is great that there is such a strong movement looking to address the psychological and sociological factors that are part of mental health. I do believe there significant biological factors related to mental health, such as traumatic brain injury. It is alarming that modern psycicatry uses a chemical imbalance as a root cause, and a method of treatment.
Thank you so much Andrew. I agree with your statement about these biological factors. Dr. Daniel Amen is doing great work in identifying these biological causes. Thank you for your ongoing support. It really means a lot.
@@psychologyis I had all the testing done at an Amen Clinic in Reston, VA in 2012. It was a lot of hours packed into 3 days! I wonder if the anomalies found where from all the meds! ???
As someone has with adhd ring of fire ( gad65 and eosinophilia), schizoaffective disorder ( autoimmune dieses), Ssridetroyed me, benzo at least suppress my relentless and psyco motor agitation. In stead of analyzing iron,gad65, chornic inflammation I have been put under gabaoentin, tramadol and few others.i have tried twice to hurt my self.
Doctor fantastic inteligent coherent logic experienced honest!!! I would like it very much my daughter who has paranoid episodes to meet you ! God bless you!
I really hoping I can get his books & understand them when I read them! I have so much respect for him! Heaven bless him with a long happy life! I wish the same for you both! Thank you! Such important subjects!
I know this video has been here a while, but I'm a UK citizen and have on numerous occasions been 'referred' to psychiatrists. Here's what I have to say: Psychiatry needs to be scrapped. DSM needs to be scrapped. The word 'DISORDERS' also needs to be scrapped. Disorder implies the 'problem' is with you - not what happened to you!
Just to add a correction if you come in with a drug rxn it is not true that they won’t give you a diagnosis. At least it wasn’t for me. I was in treatment during acute stimulant withdrawal from prescribed amphetamines and they labeled me bipolar and put me on seroquel and lithium and lamictal concomitantly. In fact most of the patients in the drug treatment center I came in to were given seroquel even though they were detoxing or withdrawing or even still had the drug in their system. Us patients spoke about what was happening and most people would say ‘yeah they threw me on seroquel to knock me down and make me more manageable.’ That was the consensus among patients, among doctors everyone who came in detoxing was bipolar.
ALL THIS HAS DONE IS MADE ME YELL MY VOICE OUT OVER THE PHONE TO A FRIEND IN FULL ON AGER. IT HAS PROVOKED AN ANGRY OUTBURST. PLENTY OF PEOPLE EXPOSING THE EVIL BULLSHIT NOWADAYS. IT DOESNT REALLY HELP US THOUGH. THOSE OF US WHO ARE HIGHLY INTELLIGENT, BUT SUFFERED MAJOR LIFE TRAUMAS, VERY CREATIVELY TALENTED...GOING THROUGH MENOPAUSE....OUR LIVES FUCKED FROM LONG TERM DRUG DEOENDENCE. TIME TO TAKE MY ADDICTIVE FIRMING NIGHT DOSE NOW. MOOD STABILIZERS THEY WERE SOLD TO ME AS....BACK IN 2013. THE PHARMACISTS ARE JUST MORE PROGRAMMED COGS IN THE WHEEL OF MASSSIVE DECEPTION AND DESTRUCTION.
THEN LATER DOWN THE TRACK I FIND OUT THEY ARE JUST NAMES HIDDEN WITHIN NAMES. MOOD STABILIZERS....ANTIPSYCHOTICS.....TRANQUILIZERS. THEY R ALL THE SAME SHIT. BENZOS....I HATE THE SO CALLED PROFESSSIONALS WE R TOLD TO FOLLOW LIKE OBEDIENT FUCKING SHEEPLE
I desperately want to come off my drugs: Seroquel & Zeroxat which I have been on for over 20 years. I have not had one psych suggesting that I should be weaned off & I have not had one blood test for high blood sugar etc which are supposed to be carried out. I hope my determination to come off these poisons will be successful.
@alison Rogerson You may get some answers from pharmacists who work at a compound pharmacy. They seem more in the know & see The Inner Compass site, especially The Withdrawal Project. There may still be weekends of trainings about the subject out of Hartford, CT. Check the site. Also, their might be someone who may be a coach. I just recently heard about a possible coach! There’s Will Hall’s Harm Reduction Guide, as well. Best wishes.
@@cynthiaennis3107 many thanks for your reply. I’m sorry I didn’t notice it until now. I’m living in Scotland so would have to connect with professionals here. How amazing though that you mention Hartford as I have visited family there many years ago! It was lovely
I'm hoping to see general anesthesia also examined for harm vs good. The last normal day of my life was when I went in for a very simple, elective surgery. That was 12 years ago. No one discussed possible side effects, or discussed the various anesthesias vis-a-vis my own requirements and deficiencies. I have never worked again, I have never had normal mental function again. And it was elective.
Good point. As far as I'm aware of, some sorts of anesthesia drain the vitamin b12 storage in the liver, this causes neurotoxic brain damage instantly, even a few women died after exposure to nitrous oxide. I also assume there might be a correlation to post partum psychosis.
Same thing happened to me. Spent 25 years trying everything I could. In the process got thrown several times in spyche wards and put on evil antipsycotis. Finaly some years ago found the raw vegan community in the web which led me to Dr Morse. Cjanged my life. Can tell you from experience that it is reversaval. Love.
What were your side effects. The couple of times I went under, within a week I was in a severe depression that lasted weeks. I couldn't function or go to work it was that bad. In a couple of weeks I need to do a colonoscopy and I am so worried about the effects of the anesthesia.
I had psychosis and put on Risperidol and clonazepan. After six month I could get out of this meds still is dificult sleep and had a few month of depresion but I walk everyday an meditate it helps a lot also therapy. Im divorcing so its a hard time so Im trying to stand up and have hope in me .Great video .
Thank you for your direct, clear psychiatric advice. I grew up in a family that was on psychiatric drugs, Mainly my mom and 1 sibling. I agree they did more harm in many ways. I do however question addiction patients. Suboxone seems to help people get back to work and stay off heroine or pain meds that they needed at one time…What are your thoughts?
Excellent interview. a psychologist, I usually recommend vitamin and gut health through dietary changes. Often far more effective than drugs. I rarely refer for psychiatric care. Keep up the good work.
Dr. Gotzche talks about people going from one mental diagnosis to another diagnosis and getting medicine for each diagnosis. Isn’t that what happens in the Physical diagnoses too. We get diagnosed with one physical diagnosis. And then were given other diagnoseses and for each diagnoses were given drugs.
Soon the psych hospitals will be empty and abandoned. Because God is coming to heal every single person who is suffering from any sort of mental illness, or depression, anxiety, or any other thing in this field! Mark my words! It is going to happen!
I found you ....thankfully, I withdrew 3 months ago. Oct.2023 .It has been a 30 year ride for me ( unaware) . No one talks about it. God bless you all . Thank you. 30 years......are you getting what 30 years Risperdone ,duoloxetine, mirtazepine, clonazepam, and the many i tried in 30 years time did to my body? Cancer, RA, STENT, FIBROSIS OF THE LIVER. And my drug dealing clinician doesnt get that my med cabinate is overflowing and continues writing the perscription. I have nowhere to turn here New England usa. Everyone is brainwashed here.
I watched ur Video and I really got a lot of information from it TY for sharing I have a Adult Son who has been diagnosed by a Psychiatrist with Schizophrenia and has been on Prescribed meds for a long time I have always questioned how he can diagnose my Son when he has never done any blood work Or any medical exam at all. He has only come to this conclusion bc my Son had a mental break Down & was put into the Mental Unit of the hospital and was sent Home with instructions to take (2) meds that they gave him in the hospital & to find a psychiatrist All if this was totally against his own will and was Forced in him without his permission. This happens all too Often
If you or someone you know is considering coming off of psychiatric drugs, here are some educational resources:
www.madinamerica.com/
withdrawal.theinnercompass.org/
breggin.com/a-guide-for-prescribers-therapists-patients-and-their-families/
medicatingnormal.com/psychiatric-drug-withdrawal/
I'd love to see an interview with William M Epstein and his work on psychotherapy.
Also Cymbalta Hurts Worse on Facebook.
Will Hall website
Well there's our Little ray of hope? I just leave it on? You have to move to France? I can't remember anything about my life?
hi, willing to get in touch with you, i am taking medications and listening to congolese voices, but i know that someone is doing a trumanshow with my head and i can prove it
I am a psychiatric survivor myself and totally support this doctors research
I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was 13, and given Ritalin. I began staying up for days at a time and in response started drinking until I blacked out every night so I could go to sleep. I was given a couple of other diagnoses, then finally paranoid schizophrenia. I was on thousands of milligrams of thorazine a day. I was non-functional and flunked out of high school. I refused to take thorazine anymore, & got made a word of the state. I was an alcoholic drinker until I was 32, when I basically started life all over again after I quit drinking. I'm still recovering.
Well done, I hope you continue to make a full recovery to good health.
I’m so sorry this happened. I hope you continue to heal and find your best life.
@@beabeauty We all face challenges in life. Mine started a little early, that's all. I guess you could say I got a head start lol. Psychedelics made a huge difference for me. Unlocked a lot of things and helped me find god, let go of the past, stop drinking, and start living life with hope & inspiration. Been a long, strange trip, & I still have a long way to go. Differences that now I'm looking forward to the journey.
I'm extremely grateful that I got away from the psych meds.
Well done congratulations that takes huge courage and strength sending you prayers and love keep your faith.
Kudos to you, what an amazing and courageous human being you are. I wish you all the very best for your present and future! ✨✨✨
This was incredible. I want all his books.
My father passed away and tried to commit suicide.. I only know of one time.
He was on so many drugs and my family hated me trying to intervene and help him.
He was so fragile and my mother was and is a malignant narcissist.
She wanted him on the pills.
His funeral was the last time I saw my sister and mother.
They neglected his cries for help and punished me for trying to help him.
I miss him but when he died I was relieved for him as he was so tormented in his marriage.
Thank you for this information and interview.
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Horrible, narcissist are murderers in one way or another.
@@bobbarker1798 Psychiatrists are sincere - as the conjure crocodile tears, while "helping people!"
@@bobbarker1798I fully agree, my mother is one her abuse nearly killed me!
It's a horrible thing when a person has a horror story to talk about and is ignored then given dangerous drugs.
It really is.
Psychiatrists prey on vulnerable people for profits.
As I was.
As I was also.
I was. Horrible
I wish more doctors were like Peter Goetsche
I wish ALL MDs were like Peter Gotzsche!
what about fasting i've done much fasting for health benefits!
I agree Dominik THE adjective !!
In the English MH system you break a free door@#?£!
Somewhere something's got something on you that CSI investigations propigated secrets in the people who don't know real wisdom from making the sick undesirable.
Does anyone get into Saint Paul who said that one person shouldn't damage another person's freedom because it was something Christ bought.
Peter is so right that one of the first things we have to do is to ban coorcive treatment and to demand fully informed consent for all 'treatments'. Class actions against psychiatry must occur too to make the politicians act.
Try working in a psych hospital in an admission unit for 6 months and come back and tell us how you're against coercive treatment. In an ideal world I wish otherwise, but the reality is there are some VERY scary people out there who, bc of their mental illness, might jeopardize your safety bc they've lost touch with reality.
@@oopalonga Those people became SCARY bc of psych meds. Just bc some1 doesn't like how another person behaves DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY NEED (PSYCH) MEDS!!!!!
@@billybandyk0720I was about to say the same thing alot off them are I'll because off treatment
@@Jahfriend Exactly the fuckin' point. Psych meds r simply "chemical pacifiers" (i.e.: designed 2 silence u when getting abused, bullied, & harassed by other people; especially RE: those deemed as "authority figures" such as law enforcement officers, judges/justices, court employees, medical/mental health personnel, etc.). So much easier 2 medic8 than communic8. Furthermore; name another branch of health care where some1 can b subjected 2 criminal prosecution bc of an involuntary mental health hospitalization.
Been there mate lost both my parents in 20s child abuse by mum's boyfriend bad physical and mental abuse when I was 7 to 13 and then set up by police which I didn't know nothing about in 20s till years laters cost me some good friends. I went for help off my GP when I was early 20s for child abuse unresolved and losing parents given an ssri was on it long time told safe etc I was a young person vulnerable at the time but believed my gp. Was on it 13 years seroxat gp cold turkeyed me off it 10 mg I've been off 11 years have lots off disabling effects to this day that didn't come out till stopping was part off UK litigation got know where all denied so I'm an example off what can happen to a vunerable young person who goes to a gp for help. There is no real help and it is a crime against humanity like he says people would never believe it till they have been there
I know this podcast was a year ago but there is this case in the US of a 11-year-old girl diagnosed with a rare onset childhood schizophrenia psychosis she had an outburst and was court ordered to take heavy psychotropic medications. Her first evaluation her IQ was 142 a year after being medicated her IQ went down to 60. A once brilliant preteen who is now 20 is most definitely a crime against humanity.
You can scream on top of a mountain and no one will listen to help her. 💔
Pretty sure, my iq dropped this far, too, on meds. And that's the purpose of them, making the people dumb vegetables, so they can't defend themselves.
@@kareendeveraux1847 SPOT-ON U R; SPOT-ON INDEED!!!!!
Horrific
In Czech Republic is a lady who is the owner of 7 Pharma stores,
she made an interview about a year ago, after the covid, saying that often she meets elderly people
She is telling them good advice, please get off the medications as much as possible,
Dont watch the news at night, to get nervous, because it triggers you to eat sleep pills,
Rather spend time in nature, go for a walk, exercise.
Even pharma owners as she is, are against the overuse of drugs. She saw an elderly couple eating the same set of drugs, because it was convenient for the couple, to go to a pharma store and save time, or whatever reason they had. Dont be fooled by the system. Its ridiculous. Two people can not have the same diagnosis.
They may have the same symptoms from the same drugs... But not the same cause of illness. Everybody is different.
Drugs should be short-term, but not long-term.
Drugs should heal, not cause other health problems.
She says The pills have a side effect, which means the doctors prescribe another pill that slow down the side effects of the first drugs,
it becomes a vicious circle, where the elderly people have to take pill after pill, a handful of pills and its a never-ending vicious circle.
She herself said she wants to live a long life without unnecessary drugs.
You may sell candies but ethical sellers will tell you eat less. They will tell you eat 75 percent of nutrients at least, in one year.
She said if sellers run out the supplies, the companies push the pharmacy sellers, to offer their medications, from a different company.
Pharma sellers can be very good people, but they are used as well.
Dr. Anna Lembke also in the videos explained how the doctors were lying about the fact that the opioid drugs that heal depression, have no effect on health,...actually it's the opposite.
The long-term use may contribute to depression if you dont heal the cause of depression.
Dr. Bruce Lipton said that the medical statistics about cholesterol are untrue as well because they make an assumption of some statistics, and create some middle number,
but the statistics are nonsense because every patient has a different body. They can not make statistics based on different body types. He said medics are taught in school just to prescribe the drugs.
He is right. Especially if some people are willing to exercise, eat healthy, do healthy hobbies....
When and which doctor asked the patient, how much water you drink,
water is gratis,
how much exercise you take every day, exercise is gratis, therefore they dont ask it
and they were not trained in medical school to ask such questions.
Why they dont make statistics about the healthy hobbies, that create healthy hormones in the body, for free.
Walking in the forest and in nature increases your immune system by 30 to 40 percent. The air you breathe in nature, also activates the hormone of creativity, because of more oxygen gets into your brain.
Dr. Joe Dispenza says Happy mood increases your immune system in 4 days by 50 percent. It activates the T cells, which fight bacteria, viruses cancer etc.
Dr. Joe Dispenza explains the body is the greatest pharmacy in the world, which means no matter what age you are young or old, your body is able to heal itself and create its own healthy hormones by using meditation, metacognition and other techniques that dont cost you any money.
@@billybandyk0720 Giving people DSM labels is much like adolescent usurpation - then its neurotoxic drugs/ECT, which reduce people to beasts and long term cash cows!
I totally agree that psychiatry is a disgrace. I also spent my whole life in proper medicine, with diseases which were real, understood and confirmed by tests. Effects of treatment can thereafter be measured by tests and scientific assessment. Psychiatry is different.
A specialty of opinions, populated by unusual 'doctors', with no diagnostic tests, and a huge reliance on the pharmaceutical industry. I agree that more harm is done by psychiatry than good, and it is a 20th, 21st century disaster. If it were to be abandoned there would be a marked improvement in world health.
I agree...but for those on these meds...there would need to be people helping them to withdraw from these harmful substances.
@@cynthiaennis3107 Of course. Joanna Moncreif has recently published a book on this.
I agree, but what is often overlooked is how modern psychiatry is really very much historically conditioned by its horrifying roots. Prozac/Zoloft is not so different from the labotomy, which severs neurological connections in a physical way rather then through chemical inhibition. The way we think of people with mental health conditions - as unreliable narrators who don't live in reality - means we never actually learn about the primary phenomenon, for example the process we call a 'psychosis'. In my experience as a sufferer who has not sought to hault it chemically as a solution but has tried to watch it impartially and go through it, a 'psychosis' is a purposive process, embued with meaning and intelligence far beyond the ordinary intellect, is ordered and purposive, and if allowed to flower, which is rare in this society, it culminates in at least a re-organization if not a fundamental transformation in the sense of self and reality. I don't pretend to know anything more about it, but what is very clear is a) it's a phenomenon which as a society we are far from understanding, b) we can only learn about it through accurate descriptions of the experience from those who undergo it, and c) modern psychiatry will not let anyone go through it (with support, in a safe environment) - they have already decided it's a meaningless fantasy, the random firing of axons or whatever, and has no hermeneutic value whatsoever. I say it is a means of exploring consciousness way beyond the known limits of the ordinary, egoic mind. It's like taking a psychadelic but is intrinsically very meaningful and ingeneous - I could never, given a hundred years, create a visual and intellectual narrative that remotely compares to a single psychotic episode (it's not merely 'hearing voices' for me - and even that isolated phenomenon is thoroughly interesting and suggestive of intelligence that goes beyond the known mind). The prejudices of psychiatry, society and medicine in general prevent us even entertaining the idea of discovering all that is there to be discovered from psychosis, let alone all the other conditions.
I’ve been in hospital now for about.. 7 years ... I’m tired and worn out.. have been on almost all the...antipsychotics and mood- destabilisers... ( pun intended ) ... I can’t think straight... once you’ve had a label slapped on you ; they seem to have carte-blanch to feed you anything they like... It’s hell in here.. how can I put myself forward to a tribunal, in an adequate way when my logic and sense of well-being is so compromised.. please any help would be welcome..?
@@lovewavesdriftingforever I'm not a psychiatrist, or any kind of expert really. But I'm going through something similar and I know the position you're in - I've been there. You need to find an advocate - someone who's on your side that you can trust who will go to bat for you.
Dr. Gotzche is a true hero, have been following his work for a long time.
he is not a hero he says nothing about diet and exercise he says eat what you want LIE we all have natural laws that we have to obey read Genesis 1:29 God gave man his diet, we ALL have toxins and mucus in our bodies that cause disease because on a junk food diet only vegan diet along with exercise,fresh air, water can we cleanse the body, BE CAREFUL WHO YOU LISTEN TOO!
Robert D. Whitaker, also!
Many on-going human rights abuses will become illegal once nonconsensual psychiatry is outlawed.
Blessings to you both. Extra great episode. Cheers
I am an inmate at the Oregon State Hospital named Brandon William Combs. We are almost all victims of these abuses.
@@brandoncombs5561 Maybe a new US Supreme Court Case can rule coercive psychiatry as conflicting with 8th Amendment against cruel punishment. Maybe US Supreme Court will rule coercive psychiatry as illegal (conflicting with US Constitution) for a different reason.
@@MichaelTenQi Which is this? I could really use a law like this as I am literally writing this from the Oregon State Hospital during my "computer lab" time. I am trying to assemble as many advocates as possible for this issue.
@@brandoncombs5561 Huh? Are you entitled to a lawyer? Do you have one? Between 2 and 4 states have outlawed the insanity defense. If I am remembering correctly, contemporary of Szasz once wrote a message to me that the insanity defense is really "false mercy". According to Szasz, civil commitment and the insanity defense form the foundations of psychiatric slavery.
@@brandoncombs5561 Oh. Is there a law library Oregon State Hospital? OSH is supposedly a "hospital", but it functions as a prison. Szasz wrote a book entitled Psychiatric Slavery, which is about the US Supreme Court Case, O'Connor vs. Donaldson. I am suggesting, that the right person, with the right lawyer could potentially help to have psychiatric coercion declared unconstitutional. That may not be an easy road. Suggest it to any allies that you might know or have at OSH, if you want to. Inner and outer peace to you. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Connor_v._Donaldson
People don’t protest, because when faced with mental health crises within themselves or their families, they reach for, what they believe/been told, is the quickest and most impactful response to a frightful situation.
Thank you for this presentation. Dr. Peter Gøtzsche has provided me the needed clarity in which to frame the psychiatric “dog and pony show” to which I’ve been subjected since incurring my physical disability. Deeply grateful.
I LOVE this Dr..finally a Dr who can think for himself ! The fact that family doctors who know very little abt Psychiatric disorders are giving you a diagnosis of depression based on a questionnaire and then prescribing you drugs which you take, trusting them that they are 'safe' is now abhorrent to me as I near 60 years old. i was literally prescribed TEN different AD's over a ten year period, each time I went back to the Dr, try this new one . TEN !! Why did my Dr not say - well obviously you DO NOT have a chemical imbalance in your brain, otherwise one of these drugs would work and you could actually tolerate the side effects. THEY ARE POISONING US WITH PHRAMA MEDS. that is the bottom line. While they sail around the world on their super yachts we SUFFER.
I'm with Nick on the item of vitamins and nutrition influencing mental health.
Absence of proof is not proof of absence. It stands to reason that body and mind are intimately connected, in fact they are ONE system.
If we eat healthily, drink little or no alcohol, exercise regularly (even moderate exercise such as walking 40 minutes a day), keep a degree of social contact, our thoughts are bound to be healthier, whether we have a diagnosis or not.
It is not a coincidence that people who suffer from poor mental health often resist changing their poor habits in terms of nutrition, addiction to substances, and avoidance of exercise.
Just one example among the numerous ones: Wim Hoff teaches the powerful relationship between mind and body.
This man speaks the truth! Same happened to my father-destroyed his life.-And our family
PETER IS A HERO.
So, so true! To feel is to heal! To sit with trauma, grief, hyperventilating & just let it be ok! Fixing nothing. Just allowing it to be felt...sooner or later...it works it’s way out of the body! I had learned this from my meditation teacher who studied in India! A great help! If people are allowed to deal with it! 🙏🏼
“Sorrow ends only when there is the light of understanding, and this light is not lit by one experience or by one flash of understanding; this understanding is lighting itself all the time. Nobody can give it to you - no book, trick, teacher or saviour. The understanding of yourself is the ending of sorrow.”
- J. Krishnamurti ✨
Many symptoms are due to a reaction to ultra processed toxic foods. Research a keto diet. Eliminating all processed foods, all sodas, all vegetable oils, and most carbs.
In my opinion, modern psychology and psychiatry have primarily become about controlling the human and the human mind. Not about aiding and assisting it! Currently this may be societys biggest problem and could even be the end of it! Peace ✌️
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Recently, I told a psychiatrist (via telehealth) that I thought his entire field was bullshit and had caused me nothing but harm. He said, "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater." I told him most of the babies were dead and that the rest were poisoned and would soon follow suit. I was talking about psychiatrists and the whole damn system. The person monitoring the televisit smiled. I'm wondering if she agreed with me. Even the psychiatrist seemed to appreciate my metaphor, although I'm wondering if his smile was more of smirk.
Fast forward several months. Now I'm even more certain psychiatry is bunk, as is "talk therapy." It's all bunk. My entire life was wasted because I believed in these shysters.
Fantastic discussion. I'm 18 months into tapering off of paxil after being put on it at 10 years old. I took paxil for 24 years because I believed I had a "chemical imbalance." The pills numbed me but didnt cause much noticable harm until my dose was doubled at the age of 30. Then I became manic and had suicidal ideation for months. Neither of which I had ever experienced before. I was originally put on paxil for OCD/anxiety, not depression. The ordeal of doubling my dose was traumatic and horrifying but I am thankful for it because it eventually led me down my current path of healing.
Over the past few years I've learned so much about how incorrect I was to believe that the drug I was on was my "medication." Researching SSRIs and withdrawal was a total paradigm shift and that in itself came with grief and anger, which I'm still processing. I fired my psychiatrist and found a supportive doctor. But really, doctors don't know anything about coming off psych drugs. I credit online forums, Heather Ashton, and doctors/speakers like Peter/Joanna/Whitaker in learning how to self-direct my own taper. I'm down from 40mg to 7mg and even though the withdrawals suck, the entire experience has been transformative. I'm finally "waking up" emotionally after so many years of dulled feelings. Life is beautiful and expansive and comes with a full range of pleasure and pain. My withdrawal process has also turned me from an atheist into someone who now believes there is much more to the world than I may ever fully understand.
Thank you for this and your other discussions on psychiatry and the dangers of psych drugs.
Healing is possible!!
Yep I totaly agree with you on that, doctors know jackshit about withdrawal from antidepressants or antipsychotics, even worse they deny these withdrawals.
How are you doing now did u manage to get off 👍
Thanks for this enlightening interview. I like the idea of making the psychiatric industry pay for damages.
Gosh my brother has had 2 Traumas that has happen in his life. He's 55 and is now of 7 pills. So sad! It's breaks my heart.
After yrs on a Benzodiazepine, I could not be anesthetized for 2 colonoscopies! It’s fine if your size Medium, but not if extra small size!
One becomes so sedated over time, that one wonders why one has no life, as it’s so gradual, one is dead inside...until one is withdrawing, hopefully, safely by a micro taper! But once so harmed, how can patients EVER trust an MD again?
{Thank you, Psychopharmachologist, C. Heather Ashton, & Psycholgist, Will Hall, for your truth, help & those amazing souls who have come off by yourselves or too fast by your MDs...Heaven help us all survive psychiatry!
Thank YOU, Prof. Peter Gotzsche & Nick Fortina 🙏🏼 (Love Joanna Moncrieff!)} Thank goodness there is a zoom support group for us to talk about the pros & cons of these things.
i'm going through very bad depression and withdrawal today, it seems a if i try to help myself my condition gets worse, i'm about to give up!
100% of doctors aren't trained in nutrition we have to be our own doctors and help ourselves if we expect to be healthy, i've been a strict vegan for 36 years along with exercise etc we must help ourselves, fasting is a good health benefit i've done it many times!
Superb. Someone who tells the truth about psychiatry.
There are others also. Harvard psychiatrist Dr. Georgia Ede is one.
@@Gesundheit888 yes, I have listen many others who are speaking truth. ❤️
As a shrink survivor, I recommend rejecting nonsensical theories of the mind such as dualism or genetic predisposition. The hardware was always fine, I just needed software debugging. Namely, acknowledging that I alone am free to tune my personality as I wish.
"Produce yourself!" - Marianne Williamson
“Psychiatric survivor” ~ I pray this for my loved one 💔
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Meat. Meat can heal. It worked for me. Research it.
@@dmahadeo really?? I’ve not heard of this! There’s hope? Is this a paper not in the US? (I’m trying to heal from benzo withdrawal after being prescribed this for about almost 30 years...have been coming off about 7 years & trying to have some quality of life while doing it...and still gain back my memory, executive function, hair that’s falling out, be able to read a book & retain the info longer than a month. Still...at least I can understand a book now, when I’m reading it...mostly. 😱. Before...I lost my car, had temporary dementia from coming off at 35%/month! I had no idea I was under-dosing myself back then! I could not read or pay attention, horrendous withdrawal symptoms, have hardly any energy & now have to move to Heaven knows where. No close family, almost all close friends have moved & 2 of the last 3 are moving soon so far away, I’ll probably never see them again. This is HORRENDOUS! 🤬
@@cynthiaennis3107 sorry about the lack of social support. It helps, but I still believe you can pull through. I was institutionalised in the early 1990s - attempted suicide, etc. I think I probably struggled with mental health all my life. I am 57 years now and though I have been through a terrible divorce, lost house and almost lost children totally, etc. I am back with a bang - health wise, mentally, every which way. There were times I took about 30 mg of Valium and knocked it back with 2 shots of scotch just to get a couple hours of sleep.
Now? now I barely take a Tylenol. I am so wary of pharmaceuticals. Try a carnivore diet for a couple of months. In the first few weeks everything will get worse, but if you endure it and just hang in there you may start to see results that will amaze you. What have you got to lose?
@@dmahadeo that’s wonderful news about how you survived all of that! I thank you for the pep talk & the advice! I’ll try it out! I don’t take any medicine except that from which I’m withdrawing, either! You have amazing...perseverance! We have a few similarities, same age, divorced, but no children of my own. And I’m so happy you have your children! Best wishes for your best life! I’m grateful you answered! Thanks again! 🙏🏼
Many of us have been dumping grounds for all sorts of these drugs! And there’s no responsibility for ruining lives, nor for killing people, unless it’s a class action law suit for wrongful death due to suicide...and no living patients receive any compensation, as far as I have seen in the US.
Déad right 👍
Agreed. There are ZERO consequences or repercussions on giving people Protracted Withdrawal and Iatogenic Injuries and Brain Injuries.
4:31 Psychiatry is very dominated by financial interest
I had never considered this aspect before. Very compelling work by Dr. Gøtzsche.
Actually all allopathic health care (or sick care) is dominated by financial interests. Just remember that.
What a pleasure to listen to this interviewer - great job listening, actually thinking it through, being mindful… I really enjoyed this conversation!
I've always felt the toxicity of food and our polluted environment have had a lot to do with the creating of psychiatric issues.
right i've been a strict vegan for 36 years and yet i still have toxins and mucus in my body we ALL do, only short fastings, fruit, exercise, can cleasnse the body and our precious blood, just read Genesis 1:29!
Also, the toxic, unnnatural and destructive social, cultural and economic conditions we have created for ourselves and subjected all our children to? It's a wonder we're not all incapacitated by insanity (or perhaps we are!)
It's a little funny to see (some of) mainstream psychiatry cast about and grasp at gut inflammation as yet another etiology. Not that it's impossible or even unlikely that that sort of thing could affect mental health but it's just... the same old framing as it was with "chemical imbalances", and of course this doesn't replace anything that came before it, because no one can ever admit fault, and likewise has no meaningful evidence. But hey, if a doctor starts coercing people to eat yogurt I don't think many will have the same sort of problem with it. Of course most institutionalists say it's "anti-psychiatry" and those that talk about inflammation are "minor rebels" I guess. Another bit of theater.
Yes. 100% toxic food and environment Will affect the nervous system. The gut is a part of it not all. The environment includes mental stimulants. Turn off the TV.
He clearly works for pharma. Infiltrate and lead the oposition. Will give you what you want to hear and then lead you astray. Saying that alternative medicine is bad, nutrition has nothing to do and promoting the v. Why is the interviewer afraid to argue with him? Open your eyes. Read between the lines.
I do disagree about the alternative or vitamin use. I am an example of my health improving tremendously, in withdrawal, health, not only physically, but mentally. I will disregard what he said on this. He might not have experienced malnutrition or any of these issues that diet, exercise, and spiritual input help tremendously. Everything else I will agree. I glean what I read or hear and apply everything that applies to me in my body, which is personal. I’m so glad I’m listening and will read his books and apply what will work for me. Thank you.❤️
Wonderful interview! I do have to interject though…for the benefit of anyone who may walk away confused about his opinion in nutrition and mental health. He is entitled to it, of course. And he mentioned the mantra “Don’t worry. Be happy.” would be beneficial to just about everyone’s mental health! Agreed! The power of the placebo or attitude of the mind is absolutely unequivocal!
BUT…processed foods, industrial seed oils, sugar, and nutritional deficiencies will absolutely affect mental health! Inflammation of the brain and nervous system from the aforementioned toxicity cannot be ignored in the treatment and healing of mental health issues. I was rather disappointed in his casual rejection of the notion.
Still much respect. I know we can’t all agree on all things. ❤️
Peter says nothing about nutrition he says eat what you want WRONG we have natural laws we must obey to be healthy God gave us his diet in Genesis 1:29 along with exercise, fresh air, water etc we ALL have toxins and mucus in our bodies, fastings, fruits cleanse the body, i'm doing it now i've been a strict vegan for 36 years and i still got depressed now i have the withdrawal from the meds i'm taking!
Agree 100% it is dangerous.
I'm with you, 100%!! Factory food is poison - "big food" is just as corrupt and killing as many people as "big pharma"... and there are certain vitamin deficiencies that dramatically affect the brain. I know this first hand!
You are absolutely right! Look what Harvard psychiatrist De. Georgia Ede manages with nutrition. She has a tremendous success rate.
Sometimes I wonder if the real purpose of all you mentioned, seed oils, extremely high carbs... is to ultimately sell more drugs? No, can't be!!!
IF THE PSYCHIATRIST'S GET THEY'RE WAY, EVERYONE ON PLANET EARTH WILL BE THE PATIENT OF A PSYCHIATRIST.❤
So true. If a loved one dies, you get to legit mourn for 3 weeks, after that you have a "brain condition" and need to be medicated. (They are sick!!!)
@@Gesundheit888 Too hubristic to think!
A feudal outlook!
My life was spoiled because of these pills. Now I have to live with that realization. It's not easy. I feel like I was abducted, raped and robbed by psychiatry and the "mental health system" and their demoralizing and brain-damaging treatments. I am 68. Recovery now, at this late date?? I was lied to, and it cost me all.
I’m so sorry this happened to you, the truth of all this madness will come out eventually but more importantly I hope you find happiness going forward.
Research the carnivore life style. It will change everything for you, even at this age. I am almost 80 and been on it for 1 year, you will not believe the difference it makes in your body in you mental outlook and in your confidence. Try it just for 1 months. It's all over on yt.
I just turned 38. My nervous system has been fried for many years now (ME/CFS). I've done extensive reading from all of these Psychotropic Drug Whistleblowers since early this year, and I finally learned why I have ME/CFS. It's not because of an STD (never had one) or a post-cold/virus/flu shit. I've been on disability since 28. Protracted WIthdrawal and Limbic Kindling is VERY REAL. I can barely leave the house and spend most of my time lying down. The ironic thing is that I look like a fitness model, but I stopped being able to exercise a handful of yrs ago. I've lost everything. I live a very isolated life on Reddit.
I have yet to contract COVID-19, and it's not my responsibility if someone gets angry seeing me wear an N95 or N99.
@@Vancouver_1986 My dear, you are way too young to be so down. I am 78 and I will tell you the best years in life are between 50 and 70. That's when we are mature and still have lots of energy or we are supposed to. After 70, we get a bit slower. Anyway, I have a suggestion for you: try a carnivore diet for 3 months. Just for 3 months. I'll just give you a few names you can look up on yt. Dr. Ken Berry, Dr. Anthony Chaffee, Steak and Butte gal, Kelly Hogan.... there are many more but you will find them all in time. Just do some looking into it. It's not a diet to lose weight, it is to get healthy in a very profound way. Your best years are still ahead of you.
Very good talk, thank you!
There is also another risk associated with " depression pills". That is the physical harm such as metabolic syndrome, diabetes, weight gain and several other life shortening illnesses.
They are not illnesses...that's eating too much fat and sugar to try and ease their depression
Hmm and they don't consider that when they create the food pyramid?
FEAR - that is why people don't demonstrate. They have no where else to turn if they throw out psychiatry. Education, awareness and advice from people like both you fine gentlemen will help people stand up from underneath this life destroying megaton of poison. Thank you for your caring, sensible discussion. It has been so enlightening with a promise of a brighter future. Please God.
Thank you Sir for your tireless sharing. I will continue to share your work n make what you have started never ceased during my life time.
You have built YOUR LEGACY
Stay safe n take care Dr Peter.
Thank you dear doctor. Finally an honest doctor! Brilliant conversation gentleman. They render people incapable, that was my experience. On psychological drugs.
THANK YOU ENDLESSLY!!!!
I agree ! The vitamin thing is a wash!but I know that for years a vitamin deficiency caused me mental issues along with psychiatric pills! Magnesium and vitamin d and a corrected this! Light deprivation also was an issue!
What Nick said at 18:00 about suicide makes a lot of sense also IMO. I lost 12 years of my life to these drugs but didn't commit suicide.
How do you cope with depression now?
@@andreybatashov2183 by not popping pills
@@Blahblahblahblah666 I've found that regular exercise, cutting out added sugar / alternative sweeteners / salt / MSG, and cutting out "junk" entertainment (mindless TV shows, movies, music, video games, etc) were all critical pieces that helped me to eliminate my own depression and anxiety permanently since 2010. May I ask what you have found that has been helpful to you?
@@pida9669 I went in psychiatry cause my father was agressive. Got all kinds of diagnoses and drugs from that point.
I’m glad for you! I’m withdrawing from a benzo & I hope I can make it completely off with my brain intact! But there’s not much support.
Many who have & are withdrawing, are keeping logs with which to write books to be able change the system.
Very late comment here, but thank you for the interview. You are a good listener, and I love how Gotzsche does not mince words. The only bit I would disagree with is your statement that although psychiatry's house is rotten to the foundations, psychology has a "very solid house." I'm not so sure about that! And I say that as a (now retired) clinical psychologist. We have plenty of problems with our own pseudo-scientific pretensions, foundations built upon fraud, a history of treatments that have not just failed but done demonstrable harm, many current reports of people being harmed by therapy, many ineffectual practitioners, the destructive infusion of "woke" groupthink into training programs, and, last but not least, our complicity with psychiatry's medical model. We use the DSM, refer and defer to psychiatrists, and "prove" the efficacy of therapy by showing that it produces equivalent outcomes to antidepressants -- as if that is something to brag about!
I don't mean to sound overly negative. I think psychology does a lot of good. It is not as bad as psychiatry -- at least we don't prescribe harmful drugs (although some psychologists have pushed for this) -- but we have plenty of problems of our own. There are many detractors and plenty of legitimate complaints.
There was a psychiatrist called Dr William Glasser who taught Choice Theory he's wrote many books criticising the the DSM 4 at the time. He wrote a book called " psychiatry can be hazardous to your mental health" an excellent depiction of what's wrong in the world of psychiatry. I'm a Gestalt Psychotherapist, I have retired recently. I have always believed people have the capacity to sort out their own lives problems with support.
Dr. Gotsche talks about class action suits against the Harm caused by these drugs. If you know of a place to report damage done by drugs, please leave the information here. My husband was hurt by a drug Nuplazid.
I think the harm is intentional. Psychiatry at local levels sees itself as neutralising children and people who are seen as socially problematic for one reason or another. The disabling mechanisms of the drugs are the cure. There are cases where it may be necessary but it is horrific to see how young people are being abused by this system . It is ideological not based on real scientific diligence.
Agree. It's a part of the core beliefs and ideology behind the entire profession. The entire profession should be abolished.
damn dude these conversations on psychiatry have been EXTREMELY helpful for me. Thank you so much.
I'm seriously so glad to hear that. Thanks for all the support.
Straight talking we don't have enough of this becoz of vested interests
Psychiatry did not fail us!!! Quit saying that!! Because it was never meant to help us ,or anyone else for that matter!.
Made to control people,nothing else.
Exactly. The whole profession is pseudo-scientific and ideological at its core. The entire approach is anti-human from the get-go.
Freud was a locked-down empiricist, with no aesthetic background!
What scares me is in Ontario Canada the public health care plan does not pay for Psychologists. If a person is distressed and they don't have money or an extended health care plan, their choices are to consult with a Psychiatrist or a Family Doctor. These visits, as you identified in the show, will result with the person being sent home with a prescription. It's very scary.
You are so right. I also live in Ontario & my doctor is always prescribing drugs. When I told him I wanted some counseling instead of drugs he said you can do all the talking in the world & it won’t help. Take this (new) drug instead
@@haileysmom2358 i would decline his new drugs
Same in Ireland. Awful.
They do not want you to see a phycologist the treatment for mental health nowadays is drugs drugs and more drugs,
And a psychologist won't help. People need real friends, real human relationships. Greetings from Poland.
The patients can't fight against the doctors that they depend on for the medications they are physically dependent on because the withdrawal is too horrendous.
and many times doctors tell them those very real withdrawal symptoms arent real, and its just a return of their mental illness when they quit taking it. its either ignorance or gaslighting
I'm dying every day. I was on many drugs for my OCD and then they misdiagnosed me with bipolar put me on many other drugs my life is over. It's been six months. I am off my meds, but it's like nightmare😢 Akhatisia,anhedonia, cognitive impairment, insomnia, DPDR, racing thoughts, and severe mood swings،Hyper sensitive nervous system. Hyper salivation,horrofic nightmare. I'm getting worse every day. I can't take it anymore 😢😢 I really want to live, but I can't take it anymore. I am so close to suside everyday.
Forced injections are insane.
It is also human nature to want a quick fix. Fixing the whole society takes a ton of work.
I also agree at the end with the need for international movement demonstrations against psychiatry,I think it is happening in parts as there have been people demonstrating outside of the American psychiatric institute.There does also need to be law suits and it needs to become a major human rights abuse and legal cases need to be brought against psychiatry as an institution.
I also have to say I do not think psychology has all the answers either and there are many things problematic with some practices in psychology,it is by no means benign alternative to all of psychiatry and I think he is right in saying that people can get support in other ways.
Also great idea bout getting all those others together sometimes,think that would be great but you are doing a great great job...keeping this discussion going ..bringing it to the table again and again,its much needed.
Nils Melzer special rapporteur on torture cruel and inhuman treatment considered forced psychiatric treatment to be a crime against human rights
My children's mother has been on psychiatric medications since she was a teenager. I think they make her sick. I think her mom has been doing everything she could to keep her sick since she was a kid.she's dragging us all through court for custody right now, and trying to push my daughter into an ADHD diagnosis - I suspect so that she can get her medicated, just like I was.
Have her try a carnivore diet, it so healing. Research it. Start with Dr. Georgia Ede.
When people realize that they are damaged and disabled by the meds for life and they can not cope with that, this can also lead to suicide....
Yes. Psychiatry can destroy peoples hope.
Or when withdrawing too fast by accident or on purpose if the hell of the withdrawal is not worth all the suffering & isolation & taking years to do so.
@@cynthiaennis3107 i've gotten off zoloft and zeprexa cold turkey the last 2 months and my suicide feelings and thoughts have gone up i'm just going do talk therapy,Dr Peter Breggin treats with Love and kindness!
@@cynthiaennis3107 how are you doing!
diet and exercise can help with the withdrawl i feel its helping me!
great work getting an interview with this legend!
I’m glad you brought up Abram Hoffers book on orthomolecular medicine. The vitamin therapy worked beautifully for my mother-in-law who had become an alcoholic after her husband died.
Thank you for this, we need more people like you fighting for the truth and justice 💙💙💙
This is a great podcast. Very informative
It took me so many years to get off SSRIs (and a short stint on SNRIs). I took so many supplements to try and prop me up while I weaned off the meds. Eventually, I was on half of the lowest dose for a few years plus many supplements. It was actually reading Peter Gøtsche’s book “Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime” that helped me finally stop taking the meds and then all the supplements a few months later. I’d love to know if Peter knows much about the new field of “amino acids”, for example 5HTP.
I had a very serious suicide attempt following prescription of Prozac. I never had a suicidal thought before Prozac. Severe restlessness and increase in anxiety, sweating, insomnia manic chronic alcoholism and carelessness.
Diagnosis Chronic Anxiety (GAD) Generalised Anxiety Disorder.
I was originally put on 80mg of Prozac for several weeks , for feeling increasingly depressed. Unfortunately, it had the exact opposite effect. I became paranoid, unable to sleep and eventually became psychotic. While I was able to work with troubled kids in a psychiatric private practice without being notably troubled, at time after work I was drinking and spending the night walking my house perimeter, armed to the teeth. I wound up losing my job, being divorced and being hospitalized against will. This started a journey of being hospitalized 23 times , mostly against my will , over the next twenty t years.
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Whoever prescribed you 80mg of Prozac should be shot
Maximum dose 60mg in extreme cases.
I just quit Duloxetine (Cymbalta) after 3 weeks. I was more anxious, depressed and suicidal.
Antidepressants are overprescribed and very dangerous. I live in UK. 6 million people are on them.
@@clinttaylor4032 i pray you are ok now 🙏
1:10:24 Imo the medical degree is superfluous and expensive. Why not require them to go to pharmacology school, to know and understand what they prescribe, and also require them to have an understanding of psychology, if they want to treat people's minds?
Also, the issue with the pharmaceutical end of this needs changes. Imo one of the reasons big pharma has gotten away with recycling drugs which fail for other applications and purposes into the mental health system is the marginalization of those designated by big pharma to help them recoup their research and development costs.
45:00 There is a difference between real vitamins found in food and synthetic vitamins. The trials where negative effects are shown are usually synthetic - like with the B vitamins.
Same with minerals. Calcium in supplement form seems to be pretty dangerous, but calcium from food is not.
"fatigue, indigestion, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, mouth sores, a swollen bright red tongue, poor circulation, and depressed mood. Cracked scaly skin that is highly sensitive to the sun"
I think you were probably right in saying vitamin B3 would help with withdrawal IF the person doesn't get enough, of course. A person who eats loads of high B3 food probably wont see any benefit.
*MUST BE FROM REAL FOOD - GET YOUR B VITAMINS FROM BEEF LIVER OR OTHER WHOLEFOODS*
@@colinthomson5358 thank you!
@@colinthomson5358 and make sure it’s good quality no hormones or antibiotics used during animals life.organic or free range chicken liver is also great source of b vitamins.
@@romansobak8333 i've been a strict vegan for 35 years!
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If the patients take to the streets about this, they may reap repercussions of possible drugs stopped all at once! If not on long, that may not be harmful, but if on many years...it could be fatal! But those who have gotten off safely are slowly opening the eyes of the psychiatrists who are humble enough to believe they might learn something from their patients! I’ve heard of this happening in Denver, Colorado! Change is slow, but it’s change! Thank you! This was a great interview! Thank you, both! He is a great change agent! Yes! Still listening!
There was a Group that would go to court each year to try to have patients informed about the dangers of Benzodiazepines upfront, but I was told, if I did not stop my comments on their FB group, that they would ban me for speaking out! They then told me when they go to court about this matter, “the Harvard boys” would show up & complain & they always get their way in court! (USA)
Wonderful interview! It is great that there is such a strong movement looking to address the psychological and sociological factors that are part of mental health.
I do believe there significant biological factors related to mental health, such as traumatic brain injury. It is alarming that modern psycicatry uses a chemical imbalance as a root cause, and a method of treatment.
Thank you so much Andrew. I agree with your statement about these biological factors. Dr. Daniel Amen is doing great work in identifying these biological causes.
Thank you for your ongoing support. It really means a lot.
@@psychologyis I had all the testing done at an Amen Clinic in Reston, VA in 2012. It was a lot of hours packed into 3 days! I wonder if the anomalies found where from all the meds! ???
As someone has with adhd ring of fire ( gad65 and eosinophilia), schizoaffective disorder ( autoimmune dieses), Ssridetroyed me, benzo at least suppress my relentless and psyco motor agitation.
In stead of analyzing iron,gad65, chornic inflammation I have been put under gabaoentin, tramadol and few others.i have tried twice to hurt my self.
Doctor fantastic inteligent coherent logic experienced honest!!! I would like it very much my daughter who has paranoid episodes to meet you ! God bless you!
I really hoping I can get his books & understand them when I read them! I have so much respect for him! Heaven bless him with a long happy life! I wish the same for you both! Thank you! Such important subjects!
God bless you for doing this interview
God bless you for change.
I know this video has been here a while, but I'm a UK citizen and have on numerous occasions been 'referred' to psychiatrists. Here's what I have to say:
Psychiatry needs to be scrapped.
DSM needs to be scrapped.
The word 'DISORDERS' also needs to be scrapped. Disorder implies the 'problem' is with you - not what happened to you!
Disease-like Freudian, DSM labels - to justify neurotoxic drugs/ECT and financialization!
I was at least a ‘one’ who was still listening xx thank you x
Just to add a correction if you come in with a drug rxn it is not true that they won’t give you a diagnosis. At least it wasn’t for me. I was in treatment during acute stimulant withdrawal from prescribed amphetamines and they labeled me bipolar and put me on seroquel and lithium and lamictal concomitantly. In fact most of the patients in the drug treatment center I came in to were given seroquel even though they were detoxing or withdrawing or even still had the drug in their system. Us patients spoke about what was happening and most people would say ‘yeah they threw me on seroquel to knock me down and make me more manageable.’ That was the consensus among patients, among doctors everyone who came in detoxing was bipolar.
i came across this today - lemme know if that video conference suggested has happened- if so point me to it .. else , please do schedule it 🙂
This is becoming my favorite TH-cam channel. Thanks Dr. F.
Thank you fellow Dr. F!!
This is so important information let it come out!!
Psych meds ruined my life. I used to be creative, talented and intelligent. Now I’m a shell of a person with no thoughts or emotions.
What did you take? It might come back when getting off the meds
HES NOT TELLING ME, OR ANYONE WHOS BEEN GIVEN THESE DRUGS ANYTHING WE DIDNT ALREADY KNOW
ALL THIS HAS DONE IS MADE ME YELL MY VOICE OUT OVER THE PHONE TO A FRIEND IN FULL ON AGER. IT HAS PROVOKED AN ANGRY OUTBURST. PLENTY OF PEOPLE EXPOSING THE EVIL BULLSHIT NOWADAYS. IT DOESNT REALLY HELP US THOUGH. THOSE OF US WHO ARE HIGHLY INTELLIGENT, BUT SUFFERED MAJOR LIFE TRAUMAS, VERY CREATIVELY TALENTED...GOING THROUGH MENOPAUSE....OUR LIVES FUCKED FROM LONG TERM DRUG DEOENDENCE. TIME TO TAKE MY ADDICTIVE FIRMING NIGHT DOSE NOW. MOOD STABILIZERS THEY WERE SOLD TO ME AS....BACK IN 2013. THE PHARMACISTS ARE JUST MORE PROGRAMMED COGS IN THE WHEEL OF MASSSIVE DECEPTION AND DESTRUCTION.
THEN LATER DOWN THE TRACK I FIND OUT THEY ARE JUST NAMES HIDDEN WITHIN NAMES. MOOD STABILIZERS....ANTIPSYCHOTICS.....TRANQUILIZERS. THEY R ALL THE SAME SHIT. BENZOS....I HATE THE SO CALLED PROFESSSIONALS WE R TOLD TO FOLLOW LIKE OBEDIENT FUCKING SHEEPLE
I do not agree that any child should be medicated with psychiatric drugs. Their systems have not been fully developed.
Peter Gotzsche, Jim Gottstein!
I desperately want to come off my drugs: Seroquel & Zeroxat which I have been on for over 20 years. I have not had one psych suggesting that I should be weaned off & I have not had one blood test for high blood sugar etc which are supposed to be carried out. I hope my determination to come off these poisons will be successful.
@alison Rogerson You may get some answers from pharmacists who work at a compound pharmacy. They seem more in the know & see The Inner Compass site, especially The Withdrawal Project. There may still be weekends of trainings about the subject out of Hartford, CT. Check the site. Also, their might be someone who may be a coach. I just recently heard about a possible coach! There’s Will Hall’s Harm Reduction Guide, as well. Best wishes.
@@cynthiaennis3107 many thanks for your reply. I’m sorry I didn’t notice it until now. I’m living in Scotland so would have to connect with professionals here. How amazing though that you mention Hartford as I have visited family there many years ago! It was lovely
i just came off zoloft and zeprexa the last 2 months cold turkey and my depression has gotten worse but i'm determined to stay off!
@@healthyone100 yes stay on your path & patience is crucial for a good outcome. Good luck!
@@alisonrogerson3143 its been real hard the suicidal feelings are the worst!
Very smart doctor with very good advice.
I'm hoping to see general anesthesia also examined for harm vs good. The last normal day of my life was when I went in for a very simple, elective surgery. That was 12 years ago. No one discussed possible side effects, or discussed the various anesthesias vis-a-vis my own requirements and deficiencies. I have never worked again, I have never had normal mental function again. And it was elective.
Good point. As far as I'm aware of, some sorts of anesthesia drain the vitamin b12 storage in the liver, this causes neurotoxic brain damage instantly, even a few women died after exposure to nitrous oxide. I also assume there might be a correlation to post partum psychosis.
Same thing happened to me. Spent 25 years trying everything I could. In the process got thrown several times in spyche wards and put on evil antipsycotis. Finaly some years ago found the raw vegan community in the web which led me to Dr Morse. Cjanged my life. Can tell you from experience that it is reversaval. Love.
What were your side effects. The couple of times I went under, within a week I was in a severe depression that lasted weeks. I couldn't function or go to work it was that bad. In a couple of weeks I need to do a colonoscopy and I am so worried about the effects of the anesthesia.
Great points, thank you for this wonderful interview, props for staying surprisingly lucid and clear throughout.
really appreciate this comment. thank you.
I had psychosis and put on Risperidol and clonazepan. After six month I could get out of this meds still is dificult sleep and had a few month of depresion but I walk everyday an meditate it helps a lot also therapy. Im divorcing so its a hard time so Im trying to stand up and have hope in me
.Great video .
We live in a broken society that can not admit psychiatry has been a failed experiment.
Thank you for your direct, clear psychiatric advice. I grew up in a family that was on psychiatric drugs, Mainly my mom and 1 sibling. I agree they did more harm in many ways.
I do however question addiction patients. Suboxone seems to help people get back to work and stay off heroine or pain meds that they needed at one time…What are your thoughts?
49:04 Imo bullying, versus NOT kinda proves this. Targeting people IS bullying. In fact, its much more than that.
Wow! Yes. More please😊
Thank you for his link. Much gratitude!
Excellent interview. a psychologist, I usually recommend vitamin and gut health through dietary changes. Often far more effective than drugs. I rarely refer for psychiatric care.
Keep up the good work.
Dr. Gotzche talks about people going from one mental diagnosis to another diagnosis and getting medicine for each diagnosis. Isn’t that what happens in the Physical diagnoses too. We get diagnosed with one physical diagnosis. And then were given other diagnoseses and for each diagnoses were given drugs.
And All the whiile, all these drugs are causing side effects. Which may be diagnosed as an illness or condition
When In fact - it was a side effect.
Great video..m❤
Bravo thank you.
Soon the psych hospitals will be empty and abandoned. Because God is coming to heal every single person who is suffering from any sort of mental illness, or depression, anxiety, or any other thing in this field!
Mark my words! It is going to happen!
I saw a lot of these same problems in social work field.
There’s a book called Anatomy of an epidemic that is supposed to be good on this topic
I found you ....thankfully, I withdrew 3 months ago. Oct.2023 .It has been a 30 year ride for me ( unaware) . No one talks about it. God bless you all . Thank you. 30 years......are you getting what 30 years Risperdone ,duoloxetine, mirtazepine, clonazepam, and the many i tried in 30 years time did to my body? Cancer, RA, STENT, FIBROSIS OF THE LIVER. And my drug dealing clinician doesnt get that my med cabinate is overflowing and continues writing the perscription. I have nowhere to turn here New England usa. Everyone is brainwashed here.
Im so sorry. I hope you recover somewhat.
I watched ur Video and I really got a lot of information from it
TY for sharing I have a Adult Son who has been diagnosed by a Psychiatrist with Schizophrenia and has been on
Prescribed meds for a long time
I have always questioned how he can diagnose my Son when he has never done any blood work
Or any medical exam at all. He has only come to this conclusion bc my Son had a mental break
Down & was put into the Mental
Unit of the hospital and was sent
Home with instructions to take (2) meds that they gave him in the hospital & to find a
psychiatrist All if this was totally against his own will and was
Forced in him without his permission. This happens all too
Often