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The new M2 MacBook Air is here and with controversies around thermal throttling and SSD performance, many are wondering which model they should choose. Today we'll examine all aspects of the M2 MacBook Air performance, from the 8 core vs 10 core M2 GPU to SSD speed comparison, to figuring out if Apple lied about thermal throttling. Let's put the M2 MacBooks through their paces to find out which is best!
0:00 intro
0:46 Sponsor segment
1:53 Elephant in the room: SSD
3:03 Cinebench comparison
3:32 3DMark Wildlife Extreme
4:58 Blender BMW GPU
4:18 Battery life test
6:00 GFXBench GPU results
6:52 Final Cut Pro: SSD curveball!
8:23 Blender Classroom SSD impact
9:24 Recommendations
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I really wish these M2 MBA reviews also included comparisons to the M1 MBA. Having that for reference would be helpful along with the M2 MBP data.
I second this
I am interested in seeing the M2 MBA vs M1 MBP 14 in/16 in! Let see that video!
Keep an eye on Maxtech videos he will compare them in detail.
if you find a m1 AIR at 700 usd, it is the best value
That's exactly what I was thinking! My dilemma is whether to upgrade my 2017 MBA to the M1 or M2. My head is telling me that the M1 option by far makes the most sense value-wise but my heart is telling me that the M2 design, screen and magsafe will bring me more joy....
We love our tech videos in 360p
even better, 144p!
Maybe he was feeling sentimental and uploaded it on dialup? 🤷♂️😂
That's because we watched this so early, the HD version is not yet processed on TH-cam's side.
Highest quality video ive ever seen
I’m watching at 2160p
If the SSD speed is slowing down performance because of the need to memory swap, that suggests to me that going for a larger RAM option as well makes sense to maximise performance.
You're right about that
I’d like to see the M1 MBA included in the benchmarks.
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That, excuse the pun, apples to apples comparo would be nice.
Thanks for this - needed to see a comparison between the 8/10GB GPU on the M2 MBA. I’ve been considering the base M1 pro MBP 14 vs a medium specd up M2 MBA considering the price diff is now narrowing with current sales on the MBP. It felt silly to buy a MBA that was only a few hundred $$ less than the 14” MBP, but honestly the MBA fits my lifestyle better. I do some 3D modeling (biochem and chemistry applications) and I know the M1 pro MBP 14” works well for protein modeling but 3.5lbs is kind of not as portable for me and I’d prefer the M2 Air. I was afraid it wouldn’t be powerful enough for my science workflow but this video gives me more confidence that it will be fine. I am getting the M2 MBA 16GB, 10 core GPU, 512 SSD which is reasonable $$ with the education discount and promo. Sad the Midnight is insufferably smudgy, it’s gorgeous but I gotta go with the iconic silver ❤️💻
Quite warm in the UK ATM and no aircon in my top-floor flat, so very hot! Using my MB Pro M2 on my lap, in a protective case, it was warming up; as one would expect, I increased the fans by 50% and was nice and cool again. Though we do not get very high temps that often, I feel that having the backstop of a fan, especially with aircon per hour cost being very expensive, the MB Pro M2 was a good choice for me. I would say to those living in hot climates with no aircon (or who do not like to burn money using it) that the MB Pro M2 is a very sensible choice.
for students and overall MB Air's target market, I think even with the slower ssd (which is still fast) it wouldn't really make huge difference in real life usage and also it's maybe not even noticeable for them
Great comparison as always. I’m just happy you could make these videos before your vacation 😎
Can’t believe that the SSDs are a problem with these M2 MacBooks. Makes me want to recommend the M1 Air still. Curious if Apple made any changes to that laptop like just having 1 chip. That could be a problem…
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Yeah it will be interesting to see in a couple months time if someone receives a newly produced base M1 MBA and discovers the same SSD downgrade. Makes sense to me that they would do the downgrade if sourcing NAND is the issue. M1 MBA will still be sold in large quantities and probably outsell the M2 due to its lower price alone.
Honestly, due to supply chain issues, Apple probably realized that they would be wasting two 128GB modules on the base M2 macbooks.....when they need them for their entire main Iphone lineup, Ipad air/mini updates etc....Most people that are getting a base macbook will never notice the difference in performance, 1500MB/s is still plenty fast......It's only if you use big programs that need a lot of memory and you have 8GB of RAM, in that case, Swap might be required, thus a performance decrease........If that is your workflow....There is a 99% chance you will be getting an M2 laptop with more ram and more storage.......or a higher tier macbook pro.....This SSD is a non-issue for 99% of M2 Macbook air buyers.
@@kninezbanks That is where I am, Wanted to spec out an air or jump to a MBP14 but bought a base MBA M2 on launch day and it's plenty fast for what I need and I love it.
The chances of them putting back 2 chips in the same model is slim to none. There might be a chance they put it back in the next model. If you are worried, go for the 512gb storage model. Or build to order with upgrading the storage to 512gb
Another great, thought-out video. I like the combination of data and opionon. (as usual). I'm thinking of the 10 core with 16 gi of ram an the 512 ssd. I know it's close to the M1 MBP in price, but I don't video render. I would be upgrading from a 6 year old MBA. For me, I travel a bit. It's about the battery life and light weight. I get they all have great bl, but think the upgrades will give me a few more years of life.
10 core not worth it on this device without a fan... Will eat more battery and throttle more.
@@johnaart Fair. Good call.
@@johnaart it doesn't really seem like it
What u talking about the MBP14 is almost identical in size to the M2 MBA except its a bit thicker but for that little difference you're getting 120Hz refresh rate, more ports, better speakers, more powerful machine. The M2 MBA with 512GB/16GB should not cost more than 1500$
@@lav1daloca jeez please let people decide which one they prefer that's insane...
The SSD issue is a real bummer, less so in the Air than in the M2 MBP… The mystery of why the M2 MBP is still a thing persists, but great video.
I wonder if there are a number of apple engineers who simply like the Touch Bar; or software developers who are still developing software support for the Touch Bar, and they saw value in having a Touch Bar equipped laptop stick around for another revision. It does seem strange though, doesn't it!
Could simply be that they have pre-existing medium-term contracts to produce TouchBars that they either now throw in the bin, or try and sell.
I watch you because you're so relaxed, yet informative. I love not being screamed at the second a video starts LOL
On some of the GPU tasks, the 10 core MBP performance was exactly the same as 8 core base MBA whilst the higher spec MBA was way ahead.
The M2 MBP was hobbled by that SSD (though possibly 8GB memory as well). The question is what difference the two GPU cores actually make. Do they actually makes no difference as shown by the benchmark, or they do but the difference couldn’t be shown because they are bottle necked by the SSD & RAM.
There are sufficient people want to spec their MBA to 16G ram and 1TB SSD. The only way to really find out which GPU configuration is better is to have one 8 core and one 10 core configured to 16/1TB compete against each other.
Here I am 1 yr later than this video was published and there is still a big discussion on youtube about the issues with the base M2 MBA model. I watched nearly 20 videos until i hit this video realizing this guy Luca Miani had nailed it right and straight from the start. I thought i would write here in the comments how this video was ahead of time and by doing the right comparisons and statements. Even the video title is absolutely smart. Glad that you are here on youtube you are the top 1% to follow pls keep it up.
Excellent, informative video. Thanks!
Thank you for this video. This is the first one I’ve found that addressed my specific questions.
I watched a review of basic MB Air M2 (8 Gb/256 Gb SSD) vs an upgraded MB Air M2 (8 Gb/512 Gb SSD & 10 Core GPU) and was somewhat disappointed to see that aside from faster SSD, thermal throttling degraded of the "upgraded" was hamstringing its performance on several of the intensive graphics rendering tests.
Hi I'm looking for that vid. Do you mind sending the link? Thank you.
@@laCASTROng It was a Max Tech YT video. Not sure which one exactly but it was very recent.
very informative! lovely walkout music
Your video is in 360p, my goodness
Thanks for this video. It really make me decide what model I’ll buy.
Luke, any expected gain if you bump up to the 21 gig memory (less swap)?
Hey Luke, do you think that having the 16gb 0f ram would make up for that loss of speed from the base models ssd for Final Cut Pro and any other places it lakes in speed, since it wont have to worry as much about swap memory unless you fill up the ram? Thanks love your videos!!
I take some channels for granted sometimes, and this is one of them. It's nice to just hear a subject matter expert give an intelligent take on the differences/benefits/cons of the newest machines and their configs. Honestly, after watching all the agenda-driven garbage I've subjected myself to with respect to the M2 Pro and Air, it is just nice to hear a pleasant, non-yelling and logical discourse that is backed with ALL of the facts. There's no hiding or cherry picking facts to back up a point you wanted to make before you even opened the boxes and began testing the machines. It's really noticeable when someone goes into a review/comparison with an open mind and tells you what he found, especially someone who's this knowledgeable about Apple products.
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Do you suggest that I get a MacBook Pro or Air to edit a couple videos a week using LumaFusion (I have Final Cut, but like LumaFusion better) instead of my iPad Pro?
Hi, I’m switching from İntel MacBook Pro , (did not switch to the m1-m2 macbook pros on purpose because i hate the Touchbar.)
But I have concerns about the ram. Should I go with 8gb ram, (8cpu/8gpu/512ssd) Would it be sufficient for having multiple apps and tabs etc open? . It would be great to have a comparison for different ram configs as well.
I’m also aware silicon chip is different than the İntel so I might not even need 16gb but would be great if I could get some opinions.
I use simultaneously multiple web apps and review design apps ( figma, adobe xd, miro etc)
Thank you!
The 10C / 8C GPU both using the same amount of battery in the M2 Airs can probably be explained by the heatsink being saturated and throttling down to a level of performance/wattage at the limit of the heatsink, which of course is identical between them. The higher performing Air probably saturated earlier but also then throttled earlier, so probably averaged out to the same. Is a graph of FPS over the whole bech possible Luke? Or can you tell us what teh gfxbench FPS was at the end of the last run on the M2 airs?
Luke…great video! This is a perfect MBA review and speaks to those not requiring a powerhouse laptop. Having no fan means performance compromises w/superior portability while still being able to do some minor heavy tasks!
Would the M1 base model be great for live-streaming 1080p 60fps for hours on end?
That was very clear thank you Luke
I am planning to upgarde my 2017 base MPB. Which Air should I go with?
Might want to run the 10 Core MBA vs the 8 Core MBA on an extended test, most other test I have seen has the 8 Core MBA running better, better FPS, faster render times, etc - over extended times, while the 10 Core is does better in short burst. Which makes no sense getting the 10 Core and they should remove it as an option on the MBA. I did pick up a MBP M2, that being said I'm probably sending it back and going back to a Windows laptop because they are still faster at the same price points, just not as efficient.
Thanks for the review. A question, if I can only afford upgrading RAM (16) or SSD (512), which upgrade would you recommend?
Just commenting so this comment can go up from the comment section to get a answer
Same question
I will get the 16gb ram first.
i’m wondering the same!
GET 16 GB RAM DDR5 INSTEAD OF 512 GB SSD, U DONT EVEN HAVE TO GO SWAP MEMORY IN THE FIRST PLACE
Hello Luke , is MacBook Air M2 good for light 3D rendering or light After Effects project.
I really think with apple sillicon we're getting to a point in which it really doesn't matter what Mac you buy, and it will soon be a choice of budget and design, rather than performance. that's not saying that performance isn't important, but at least for the general population, the MacBook Air is plenty in terms of performance AND its the cheapest.
which one would you recommend for a college student who's mostly going to use it for - excel, office, browsing, editing videos, zoom meetings and attending lectures?
- would you suggest the 8 core GPU or 10 core GPU?
Note that I plan to use it for 5-6+ years
I would like to see what happens if you switch the heat sink pads on the MacBooks. The point being to see if there is any difference in the throttling based on the specs of the MacBooks.
brilliant video. makes me wish i hadnt wasted hours of my life watching other coverage of all these issues this past month. all the good data is here in 1 video
Hi,
Did both the macbook airs have same unified memory of 8gb?
The bigger ssd is obviously faster as it's 'dual channel in parallel ' so the single ssd module impacts page swapping performance when 8gb ram runs low, but surely it be better to upgrade to 16gb ram which negates the whole issue and would be even faster, No??
Yes. The only reason you should buy the faster SSD is if you're doing something that is affected by storage speed, such as video encoding.
Awesome review Luke! I'm so glad you're still reviewing MacBooks💻👍🏽😀!!
I bought the Starlight 512gb M2 Air specifically because I wanted the faster SSD. Thanks for the video that confirms my choice.
You should’ve got the M1 pro MBP lol
I got the same but space grey. This is my first mac.
@@magnusharrison2715 disagree. The M1 pro MBP is a different device comparing to the MBA.
Requesting 16+256 8c vs 8+512 10c comparison! We now know the SSDs makes a big difference when RAM runs out but what if RAM is sufficient will that performance gap still be so large? Thanks
Hey Luke, I'm curious what commands you use to open the powermetrics+sudo Terminal window...
This is great review only with the facts and no hiding. Still confused should I get mbp 14’ or MBA midnight. That color is stunning.
Why is only 360p resolution available ?
I preordered a midnight 10 core 16g/512g
Glad I opted for the higher spec model!
August 2nd needs to get her faster!
My takeaway is a bit different: Regardless of which Mac you buy, don't buy base-spec storage. Go up at least one step in capacity to avail yourself of the faster storage.
I would advise anyone getting a new M2 to pony up for the bigger SSD and maybe this was Apple's plan all along, 'cripple' the 256Gb versions to force more people into ordering the 512.
true.
no doubt...they know we live in a world of youtubers and social, they are now a company for the masses/social stuff....and so they have all the highway to set people to go for the speced model... but like saying if you dont have so much money still you have the m2 lower or the M1....but well people are smart to and sometimes INVALIDATES their (apple) maqueavelic ways!!!
I am now thinking to buy a semi new MBA M1 like 600/700€ (live in Europe) and I will be fine for most things, although it is making me hate everytime a little more this apple things they simply dont care, they are only money grabbers, miss steve jobs!!!
@@Hdio99 I 100% agree. Steve wouldn’t allow this to happen. He even encouraged people upgrading their macs!
Could you do a sustained GPU comparison between the 8-core and 10-core MBA?
Does the MBA in Midnight color makes any sound when you touch the back plate?
Thanks for video.
For the last 14 yrs I’ve needed computing power and had MacBook Pros for my Lightroom, Photoshop and some video production. I started in 2008 with the most powerful 16” fully upgraded MacBook Pro but now I think I can get by with a MacBook Air with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD
Can I ask with the 16GB Ram and 512GB SSD plus 8 GPU, will that work as well as getting 10 GPU? That is what my friend and lawyer is getting me.
Love the closing music.
If you work with an external ssd 2800gb/s with the mba 256gb internal ssd would that match an internal internal 512gb in term of performance
This is my favorite M2 Air video I have seen. Thank you!
The 10 core model with the 512GB SSD performance really stood out for me. I think that is the one to go with!
Depends on where you're from. In my Country the MB Pro 14" (16GB/512GB) costs exactly the same as the M2 MB Air with 16GB/512GB. And in that comparision the Pro is just better in every regard:
Display,
Ports,
Performance (except Single core),
Has a fan (is a plus or minus, depending on who asks),
better speakers
...
So just check your prices, is what I'm trying to say^^
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How does the air compare to the 14 and 16 pro with similar specs?
I would be interested in knowing if the M2 macbook pros 8 and 10 core, have the same SSDS as each other or are they different like they are in the M2 Macbook Airs
What happened with your resolution video Luke 😭
360p max ???
You should adjust your video quality
I'd bet money that Apple thought the M2 would be on 3nm architecture when they designed the chassis. That would explain the heat and throttling.
I heard the M2 Pro will be on 3nm
Probably all the issues going on around the world and China shutting down had a major play on it, so they just beefed the m1 chip to give it a bit more juice to make sure people didn’t complain about old m1 being used for another year
I think they just realized the m1 had more thermal overhead than they allowed for and now they are opening up that performance. Nothing inherently wrong with a hot laptop and any fanless cpu will eventually throttle.
Why only 360p quality? Both on computer and Apple TV.
Can it drive multiple monitors? I need 2 external monitors for my workflows.
I wanna see the base model MBA vs the maxed out MBA - with the faster SSD and the increased RAM
which model do get between macbook air M2 512 gb ,8 ram 8 core or macbook air M2 256 gb,16 ram 8 core which one faster ?
I didn't see in the video how much RAM each machine had. I'm no expert but if it is swapping/paging that means it could use more RAM. Adding RAM would lessen swapping/paging and mitigate some of the disadvantage of the single 256 SSD module.
Exactly, he truly missed out this important point.
I know it's a long shot, but I want to see a video where you add an additional NAND chip on the extra slot on the 256GB M2 Macbook Air.
Will 16 unified memory instead of 8 offset the use of the ssd for ram? In other words, will upgrade it ram, offset the negatives for the SSD?
Good info but clearly the average user will be fine with any of these. The best is the M2 air with its improved cameras and speakers
The base model for M2A and M2P should have 512g ssd.
Why?!
If you can only afford 1 upgrade on MBA M2, is it better to get a 16gb RAM or a 512GB SSD?
I want to buy the MBA for my high schooler, do you think which one fit for her:8core256ssd or 10 core512ssd?
Will stick with my M1 Air plus thermal pads, best thing ever. Lets see what the M3 pro max ultra whatever brings.
Thanks Luke! I’m curious if you’ve tested display output in different scenarios? I went to a college recently where they had one HDMI controlling two screens with my M1 iPad, and it wouldn’t work 😡 I’m hoping the M1/M2 don’t have those same issues with their output limitations.
M2 can only do 1 display, it's being capped by apple
@@bluebird1954 understood, I just imagine Apple’s semi-arbitrary decision limits usability in education, and that’s a big deal to the low-end M1 and M2 Air, the primary market. What’s the use of making a presentation in keynote if you have to export to PDF and run it off the class PC? I would’ve hoped Apple considered that beforehand.
I will be replacing my 2015 MacbookPro 16gb ram 500gb ssd. I use my laptop mainly to create flyers, and photoshop edits, here and there I use final cut to edit 4k clips for promo.
I’m also an engineering student half of my SSD is shared with Bootcamp where I run windows OS to use software such as Solidworks, CAD inventor, etc.
ohh last but not least, I DJ with the same laptop. However, with all the stuff I do on my 2015 MacbookPro It gets really loud and hot.
Would you recommend the m2 air 16gb 1TB or 512gb?
Did the MBA M2 have 8GB or 16BG of ram?
Dose the 10 core thermal faster than the 8 core ? Slowing it down making the 8 better on long use ?
Waiting for my midnight to arrive this week!
After watching your excellently presented video --as usual -- I wonder what difference there would be between the 8 core gpu and the 10 core gpu if they both had the upgraded storage. What do you think?
Apparently the 10-core throttles faster cause it draws more heat. Gregs Gadgets just did a video on it today.
M1 Pro/Max MB Pro any day honestly, for the display and the overall performance and the cooling fans.
I went for the M1 Pro and found one second hand never used. I would never buy a MBP on the colour if you need the juice.
Really happy now that I got the base M1 Air last November on sale. Not feeling like I'm missing out on anything in the new gen. Absolutely hate the screen notch and the SSD downgrade.
360p gang
it's 2005 again, woooo
I think you're right on the money, the Macbook Air can finally be used professionally and I'm here for it. Can't wait till i get my maxed out midnight air for music production. Great video Luke
LRC GPU acceleration enabled in preferences helps.
I’m not sure how I feel about the thermal throttling in these M2’s, focusing on the GPU more than the CPU?
Perfect, I was thinking of going to the upper tier with 10 cores... I will spend a little more on 16GB of ram I will use that computer to work, so I need to handle several tabs open and several programs in the background.
so which Mac book Air would you recommend?
Would the M2A 16/512 be strong enough to for DJ use? I use Rekordbox
Does Rekordbox work with ARM architecture?
One great thing Apple did with the M1 Macbook Pro models is that they stocked in-stores the upgraded 16GB/1TB models for walk-in shoppers. It cost more, but didnt require an online BTO order. I hope Apple will also be stocking 16GB/1TB models of the M2 Macbook air once they catch up with orders so that we can start to see how significantly higher spec'd models perform. With an education discount, that 16GB/1TB Midnight M2 Air would run $1759 and give you a $150 gift card back, so essentially $1609. What a bargain for a super modern Mac with tons of ram and tons of hard drive space!
Most people buy these for basic computing, not heavy video editing. Would be nice to hear more about the screen etc.
I wish someone would make a video for music production on the M2 Air. I am curious how many trams you can get on these.
If you can only add $200 to the base model ie your budget is $1400 do you upgrade the SSD to 512G or the UM to 16Gig?
Upgrade the ram cause you can always get an external SSD. You are stuck with the ram you get but can always add-on SSD externally.
@@Ryan152103 I think he means by swap
I want to point out my MacBook Air 7,2 with an M.2 Drive is very silimar to the M2 Air and that computer is still very speedy for basic tasks like opening apps, moving files between computers stuff like that. I think the SSD thing has been way over blown.
Can you repeat the same tests while the M2s are running in Low Power mode?
Hi Luke, thank you for always making such great videos!
Just out of curiosity,
Would consider having Google Spreadsheet opened, few dozen Chrome tabs opened and FileMaker opened during business hours a "short bursty task"?
I'm deciding if I should get the M2 air 8c gpu 24gb ram 1tb or the m2 MacBook Pro 24gb ram 1tb.
They're a bunch of tiny short bursty tasks, as far as heat, sustained performance etc are concerned.
I will love see those
Do people think that getting a larger SSD will make your MB last a little longer because there might be less stress on it (and maybe for other reasons)?
I am a photographer, use Photoshop and Adobe Premier pro. Do you think M2 Air would work for me or I shall go for M1 MBP or M2 MBP ? . I want to future proof to use this device for atleast 4 years . Appreciate your advice . Thanks
well said, finally a review that makes sense, the base model is the best deal, as of right now the midnight color is going for $1099. If you're a true pro user then this macbook air isn't even or shouldn't be an option. this is for the regular schmohawk that just wants a nice macbook at the cheapest cost, period.
Why the video is only at 360p?
TH-cam just hasn't had time to render the higher quality versions. This means you're early af
Because true beauty doesn't need to have a high resolution. Also it makes video editing easier on low end hardware, which obviously all youtubers would use, including the fancy tech youtubers that say that they pay people to edit and record their videos.
As someone who games on my M1 MBA, I respectfully disagree that you should never consider a 13" Pro. On most games your framerate will be halved in less than 20 minutes. If you only do things that don't push the chip then yes, go with the MBA. If you need to sustain loads for long periods of time, then the MacBook Pro, with all its defects, is the one you should be getting. Not everyone has enough money to pony up the $2k that the base model 14" Pro costs, and sustained performance in the long run can be worth it.
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Great video as always but all this bench stuff and this and that some so dam confusing