Mic got messed up in the recording, but wasn't too bad, so I'll keep the video up. For those wondering why I am not using yoke, it's because it's now a t17 drop so the price is going to be unknown. Also +lvls is generally just worse then flat ele rolls on a bow, so for those suggesting it, it's just not worth it.
@@RB92.He popularized it. You are stupid if you think he made the build. Basically every mfer has been running a similar build for several leagues. Just because you saw it for the first time doesn't mean he made it.
@@TriconPOE Fubgun also made builds for Last Epoch. However, his Warlock build was credited to The Curse and Fubgun made sure TheCurse got that credit. Please link the build that Fubgun is copying from since you are implying he is?
I think the real potential is in a +levels double corrupted helmet like the tempest binding on the cheap end, or a crafted +2 aoe gem unveil with shaper hypothermia and something else like attack crit (but probably not with brittle) then hoping for +relevant gems on the corruption. Essence more elemental damage is a thing too. Hypothermia and essence more elemental with a +2/+4 gem corruption and a +2 aoe unveil would be pretty nice. You could also get +aoe and projectile corruptions on gloves, but helmet has fire/cold/lightning. Essence have crit strike chance, and more speed. Then there's also double corruptions on body armor, but +aoe +projectiles are probably expensive. The rolls on bows are much higher, and don't forget you can use wands too.
+3 gem levels (+4 with Empower) and 16% penetration is comparable to max rolled triple T3. If you don't have the budget to craft triple T2+, go with gem levels (and just normal EH tbh).
my ele hit build this league had a t1 crit t1 as veiled double damage while focused and ele pen crafted, was by far the best option there. Only way to improve was to get like +1 level all gems and +2 socketd bow gems, but that would make it way more expensive
i'll plan to get to yoke as fast as possible. It looks really good mit ele hit and with puncture + poison on hit outdamages ashes on the normal ele hit. The new one should be even better.
I am pretty sure new elehit will be better, even with less AOE. Piscaror is insanely good for the early/mid game and abolity to use herald of ice help with AOE aswell. Nice video tho! :)
How does this work with Interrogation? So basically you lose the 49% chance to deal base elemental ailment and trade for 10-15% crit? Does it seem worth it?
you gain access to 3 more ailments. you then use skitterbots to get chill/shock still thats 5 ailments for the flavour text on top of all the benefits from the 3 alt ailments. so that 15% more is now 5x instead of the base 3x you then also get crit from brittle, a reduced damage taken from sapped and a -30 monster resist which is more damage from scorched. so overall its just an amazing upgrade
WIDEPOGGIES!!! question, does the warlord stun proc if we are using this gem? the cold damage might cuck us, that's why snoo was using the original ele hit with this tech... idk 100% though
this is just for legion map blasting, the uptime is pretty good with warlocks mark. but you can also just slot this into the regular setup and you can see it's a lot more dmg.
I am confused why you go for tri-ele bow instead of +3 bow and scale gem levels with additional +2 amulet and etc... You can even push it further by instead going for 4 link helmet and get +6 in there or smth. (+4 corruption +2 proj vail prefix with a simple Shaper/Elder helmet and Essence.)
At level 20 the gem has roughly the equivalent of T2 flat damage rolls. The +3 would have to literally double the damage of the gem for it to be better than a tri ele bow, and gems generally only gain ~10% damage per gem level over 20
@@Zaykahb Don't compare 3xT1 Ele bow with just +3 gem level. Compare 3xT1 Ele bow with +3 +1T1 Ele Row bow. It's 2 mods vs 3 mods otherwise. And that's assuming you can craft triple T1 Ele bow easily.
@@dobromirivanov7310 No actually I was using a 3xT2 bow for comparison, since the lvl 20 gem is roughly equivalent to 3 T2 damage rolls. That means we can assume that a single T2 mod is equivalent to 33% of the damage of the lvl 20 gem. Considering that +3 levels requires 2 prefixes and only grants ~30% more damage, I don't think it's even close
this is a common misconception, unless you get really high +gem lvls (28-30) then it's just worse then a triple ele bow. You can look at the old ele hit numbers and see that a +3 is worse then a standard triple ele bow for the new transfigure elemental hit. Although yes, you probably would want +lvls on your other pieces of gear, this is something I just quickly threw together just to show it's a better LA.
I don't got a 6L chest but i got CoC - Warlords - lifetap and i'm noticing it's not procing the warlords mark. Am i doing something wrong? I do have the crit dmg for it.
I have manaforged to a 2nd ele hit to CoC to warlords mark. CoC won't just trigger on any crit in the build, only the attack skill it's physically linked to. I doubt you have coc warlord in your main attack setup
I wanted to do a melee build with this and CoC with the new tornado of turbulence... I wonder if that's possible. I'm not knowledgeable enough to make my own builds :c
yeah you're correct, I think the fix for this is using a 20% inc aoe bow cluster or taking inc aoe on a bow mastery, because even with those changes, you'll still be way more dmg then a LA build.
I’m actually annoyed how good I realized it is when looking at the values. I wish you built it in a different way than other trinity attack builds. Mechanically it’s just a worse qol higher damage lightning arrow.
would you not go yoke of suffering on this? enemies take 50% increased damage is kinda massive (70% if you get a tiny bit of bleed and poison chance somewhere). Aint no way hyrri's is 50% more dps
Edit, also does yoke even work with skitterbots? Wording on yoke seems pretty clear that u need to apply ailments. I know if u dont use selfcast way to inflict ailment it dosent work at all. From wiki: The Skitterbots' Chilling and Shocking Auras are a property of the Skitterbot minions, not the player. So its 99% a no. you can literally check it in pob, hyrris is way cheaper/common, solves accuracy at the same time and provides (in theory assuming u fix accuracy) similar dps, yoke is better if u add around 1200 flat accuracy somewhere - 8.7kk dps vs 10kk dps. U dont have points to get accuracy on the tree really and 4 points for nodes + mastery would bring u on similar dps (because u still wont get close to 100% hit), u dont have gem slots/mana to run precision either (if u dont want to automate other skills u get gem slot, but with annoint and precision 20 still leaves u only on 94% hit chance, same dps as hyrri and ur unreserved mana is 20 which is too tight for manaforged setup and IC wont work at all). Accuracy on gear is suffix so its no go either. Plus hyrris not conditional, as soon as skitterbots are not in range yoke is worse. And how would u get poison/bleed when you only deal ele damage? Ele hit cant deal non ele damage. You dont have tincture to get poison from ele, bleed requires physical damage too. Not to mention 'bleed and poison chance somewhere' where build is already stretched to maximum gear and tree wise.
So TLDR: Skitterbots wont work with Yoke. U wont get poisons or bleed with ele hit because it cant deal non ele damage. Even if skitterbots worked it wouldnt be strictly superior to hyrri as you would need to fix accuracy/mana.
If you do conversion (all to fire conversion example) then definitely you need + levels, because cold, lightning converts to fire (50% avatar of fire) and adds top of fire damage But if you don't convert then ele bow better, but still we still don't know the numbers with gem levels, if we hit all 3 at the same time we might need gems levels still. Prolly end-game would be physical bow tho. since it has 100% conversion to all 3
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Mic got messed up in the recording, but wasn't too bad, so I'll keep the video up.
For those wondering why I am not using yoke, it's because it's now a t17 drop so the price is going to be unknown.
Also +lvls is generally just worse then flat ele rolls on a bow, so for those suggesting it, it's just not worth it.
how can i fit all auras in?
Anyone calling this a bait build hasn't watched Fubgun in the past. The dude farmed all his mirrors on stream from day one.
His builds work.
I’m not here to discredit fubgun because it’s obvious his farming strategies work, but how often is he actually creating character builds?
@@TriconPOEevery league, look at the channel lmao. Where do you think everyone was copying their MF TS from?
@@RB92.He popularized it. You are stupid if you think he made the build. Basically every mfer has been running a similar build for several leagues. Just because you saw it for the first time doesn't mean he made it.
@@RB92.ah yes because it’s so hard to slap mf gear onto a skill that’s been out for 10 years
@@TriconPOE Fubgun also made builds for Last Epoch. However, his Warlock build was credited to The Curse and Fubgun made sure TheCurse got that credit.
Please link the build that Fubgun is copying from since you are implying he is?
+2 socketed bow prefix could be better than a t1 ele dmg prefix for this specific skill
yea u want +3 socketed + 1 t1 ele dmg
+2 is worse then a flat ele roll, it would be about 120~ average flat ele vs 280~ average flat ele (t1 roll).
@@Fubgun doesnt that depend on how many gem lvls we get from other sources? dmg from gem level scales exponentially i think
I think the real potential is in a +levels double corrupted helmet like the tempest binding on the cheap end, or a crafted +2 aoe gem unveil with shaper hypothermia and something else like attack crit (but probably not with brittle) then hoping for +relevant gems on the corruption. Essence more elemental damage is a thing too. Hypothermia and essence more elemental with a +2/+4 gem corruption and a +2 aoe unveil would be pretty nice.
You could also get +aoe and projectile corruptions on gloves, but helmet has fire/cold/lightning. Essence have crit strike chance, and more speed.
Then there's also double corruptions on body armor, but +aoe +projectiles are probably expensive.
The rolls on bows are much higher, and don't forget you can use wands too.
+3 gem levels (+4 with Empower) and 16% penetration is comparable to max rolled triple T3. If you don't have the budget to craft triple T2+, go with gem levels (and just normal EH tbh).
someone WILL slot in TS and think the build is called ele hit TRUST
xdd
my ele hit build this league had a t1 crit t1 as veiled double damage while focused and ele pen crafted, was by far the best option there. Only way to improve was to get like +1 level all gems and +2 socketd bow gems, but that would make it way more expensive
It has 0 effectiveness of added damage? So Hyrri's doesn't work, but it would show up in your POB calcs with TS. Am I wrong?
hmm
Na it works, it's just 100% of effectiveness of added damage. The old ele hit works the same way, even though it doesn't show it as well.
i'll plan to get to yoke as fast as possible. It looks really good mit ele hit and with puncture + poison on hit outdamages ashes on the normal ele hit. The new one should be even better.
New Yoke (10%) doesn't outdmg Ashes, unless you don't use alt. ailments (5) or Sniper's Mark with Focal Point.
Is the rage gen thing not working anymore? Or am i missing something. Bc im not gaining rage
What about single target? Would it be insane damage with barrage support?
how's elemental hit on spectrum compare to tornado shot?
Might do the old Ele Hit Ballista. Super fun and strong
I'll be leaguestartin this
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@@MNtoCalipoverty gamers calling it bait 😂😂😂😂
I am pretty sure new elehit will be better, even with less AOE. Piscaror is insanely good for the early/mid game and abolity to use herald of ice help with AOE aswell. Nice video tho! :)
ty for the vid! i got a question about ascendancy pick for ssfhc would u still go deadeye or Raider i wanna build a ELe hit spectrum Wanderer
Mom: We have Lightning Arrow at home.
Lightning Arrow at home: Elemental Hit.
How does this work with Interrogation?
So basically you lose the 49% chance to deal base elemental ailment and trade for 10-15% crit?
Does it seem worth it?
you gain access to 3 more ailments.
you then use skitterbots to get chill/shock still
thats 5 ailments for the flavour text on top of all the benefits from the 3 alt ailments. so that 15% more is now 5x instead of the base 3x
you then also get crit from brittle, a reduced damage taken from sapped and a -30 monster resist which is more damage from scorched.
so overall its just an amazing upgrade
yes
yes its absolutely worth it with skitterbots
WIDEPOGGIES!!!
question, does the warlord stun proc if we are using this gem? the cold damage might cuck us, that's why snoo was using the original ele hit with this tech... idk 100% though
You cant deal cold damage in this PoB, because you're using secrets of suffering.
@@Fubgun you can deal cold damage but it will no longer freeze or chill right?
@@lusha1618yep
What are your thoughts on the wand version others are posting up?
I wonder how it will look since ehit has distinct visuals for each elemental arrow
its all 3 at once
Is it legit to have Berserk on for POB damage check? The uptime isn't that large, is it?
this is just for legion map blasting, the uptime is pretty good with warlocks mark.
but you can also just slot this into the regular setup and you can see it's a lot more dmg.
is there an efficient way to stun for the rage from warlords?
bows get a gem stronger than the current strongest bow skill... meanwhile melee gets cleave and warcry nerfs
classic GGG
pob headhunter?
can be goid with phys bow?
I am confused why you go for tri-ele bow instead of +3 bow and scale gem levels with additional +2 amulet and etc... You can even push it further by instead going for 4 link helmet and get +6 in there or smth. (+4 corruption +2 proj vail prefix with a simple Shaper/Elder helmet and Essence.)
Maybe the damage you get from the bow is higher than what you get by levels in the gem
At level 20 the gem has roughly the equivalent of T2 flat damage rolls. The +3 would have to literally double the damage of the gem for it to be better than a tri ele bow, and gems generally only gain ~10% damage per gem level over 20
@@Zaykahb Don't compare 3xT1 Ele bow with just +3 gem level. Compare 3xT1 Ele bow with +3 +1T1 Ele Row bow. It's 2 mods vs 3 mods otherwise.
And that's assuming you can craft triple T1 Ele bow easily.
@@dobromirivanov7310 No actually I was using a 3xT2 bow for comparison, since the lvl 20 gem is roughly equivalent to 3 T2 damage rolls. That means we can assume that a single T2 mod is equivalent to 33% of the damage of the lvl 20 gem. Considering that +3 levels requires 2 prefixes and only grants ~30% more damage, I don't think it's even close
this is a common misconception, unless you get really high +gem lvls (28-30) then it's just worse then a triple ele bow. You can look at the old ele hit numbers and see that a +3 is worse then a standard triple ele bow for the new transfigure elemental hit.
Although yes, you probably would want +lvls on your other pieces of gear, this is something I just quickly threw together just to show it's a better LA.
Am I crazy for thinking tempest or death's harp could scale this to red maps pretty easy
Thanks bro. As a min-maxing player i can say, your pob is pretty much what i needed few time ago
I don't got a 6L chest but i got CoC - Warlords - lifetap and i'm noticing it's not procing the warlords mark. Am i doing something wrong? I do have the crit dmg for it.
I have manaforged to a 2nd ele hit to CoC to warlords mark. CoC won't just trigger on any crit in the build, only the attack skill it's physically linked to. I doubt you have coc warlord in your main attack setup
@@samkaeppel1160 I didn't know how it worked previously but thanks.
why is fubgun fubgun? and what is finding magic?
I wanted to do a melee build with this and CoC with the new tornado of turbulence... I wonder if that's possible. I'm not knowledgeable enough to make my own builds :c
trans ele ht only bows and wands
How about elemental hit totems ?
What do you think of scourge arrow of menace compared to TS?
@MrSuperKivi single target sucks
Was nerfed, not as good as LA or new ele hit.
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1.5m vs 1.8m radius = 7 vs 10 square meters
so LA have 44% more area (and not 20%)
yeah you're correct, I think the fix for this is using a 20% inc aoe bow cluster or taking inc aoe on a bow mastery, because even with those changes, you'll still be way more dmg then a LA build.
Great just moved TS to EH wow nice meta change kekw
Isn't yoke good too ? it got buffed idk about rarity tou
it's BiS, but yeah it's a t17 drop now. So i don't know how rare it is.
Any hope to do this as a wander?
I think if u won't be able to get ele hit early u will be stuck with zdps gems
Wander works but is worse because bow tree is so good
You could, the gem is perfect for Piscator or you could do with a spell damage wand + spell damage shield and crown of eyes
@@becausecontextmatters5260 if you go piscators normal ele hit is better than the transfigured, as you have no added dmg
@@Zylosio the transfigured has more added dmg
I’m actually annoyed how good I realized it is when looking at the values. I wish you built it in a different way than other trinity attack builds. Mechanically it’s just a worse qol higher damage lightning arrow.
10-15 chaos? It will be 4 divine at the low end
meta gems last league were 1d
what leveling skilltree i use?
check my LA league starter video.
Surely will be 10-15 c surely
3c actually
elehit in pob - tornado shot main link ?
would you not go yoke of suffering on this? enemies take 50% increased damage is kinda massive (70% if you get a tiny bit of bleed and poison chance somewhere). Aint no way hyrri's is 50% more dps
yoke is now a t17 drop as far as we know and it did get buffed so we have no idea how common it will be
Cannot crit cap without brittle , 50% inc dmg nothing compare to 45% MORE with quality
Edit, also does yoke even work with skitterbots? Wording on yoke seems pretty clear that u need to apply ailments. I know if u dont use selfcast way to inflict ailment it dosent work at all. From wiki: The Skitterbots' Chilling and Shocking Auras are a property of the Skitterbot minions, not the player. So its 99% a no.
you can literally check it in pob, hyrris is way cheaper/common, solves accuracy at the same time and provides (in theory assuming u fix accuracy) similar dps, yoke is better if u add around 1200 flat accuracy somewhere - 8.7kk dps vs 10kk dps.
U dont have points to get accuracy on the tree really and 4 points for nodes + mastery would bring u on similar dps (because u still wont get close to 100% hit), u dont have gem slots/mana to run precision either (if u dont want to automate other skills u get gem slot, but with annoint and precision 20 still leaves u only on 94% hit chance, same dps as hyrri and ur unreserved mana is 20 which is too tight for manaforged setup and IC wont work at all). Accuracy on gear is suffix so its no go either.
Plus hyrris not conditional, as soon as skitterbots are not in range yoke is worse.
And how would u get poison/bleed when you only deal ele damage? Ele hit cant deal non ele damage. You dont have tincture to get poison from ele, bleed requires physical damage too. Not to mention 'bleed and poison chance somewhere' where build is already stretched to maximum gear and tree wise.
So TLDR:
Skitterbots wont work with Yoke.
U wont get poisons or bleed with ele hit because it cant deal non ele damage.
Even if skitterbots worked it wouldnt be strictly superior to hyrri as you would need to fix accuracy/mana.
@@rustamsuzdalev9374 inc dmg taken is a multiplier, not just generic inc dmg
1 gem swap for barrage and a single target is better
Is this this beeing a no brainer to spend the first chaos in maps to get this ele hit gem?
Most likely yes.
LA hits up to 3 additional enemies near the target also...
Damn I wonder where he got the idea to use Warlord's mark from...
I always knew about the warlord mark stuff, I'm just not a big fan. But using secrets of suffering is optimal in this build, so might as well add it.
If youre implying snoobae. Rue had like 3 pobs with this tech like 5 month ago lmao
This either Pog or xdding build..
For the most party it's strictly better then LA, feel free to pob it yourself.
its really not that risky either since you could just play LA if it doesn't work out
I never said anything about risk because we can just swap gem -.-
could you please share a loot filter for this or any of your other guides for 3.24 ? or is that just not possible until the league starts ?
Is my pc dying or is ur audio a tad fucked in this video like cutting in and out for a split second randomly and crackling. o-o
Video
Audo got fucked in the recording, but wasnt too bad.
Fubgun, u show us MF build this legue?
nice speculation buddy
What is this WillyWonka build bruh?
I'm pretty sure u can't cast on crit on triggerable skills now so the warlords mark tech is wasted.I may be wrong.
heyo, i m quite confused, is this version gonna transition to MF? or is this gonna be a normal build?
If you do conversion (all to fire conversion example) then definitely you need + levels, because cold, lightning converts to fire (50% avatar of fire) and adds top of fire damage
But if you don't convert then ele bow better, but still we still don't know the numbers with gem levels, if we hit all 3 at the same time we might need gems levels still.
Prolly end-game would be physical bow tho. since it has 100% conversion to all 3
Wow
Surely this isnt bait
noooo stop talking about it its gonna be 100 div
Calm down
Everybody and their dad will pump green trans gems (the CoC DD build needs it), so it will be available.
it's gonna be a lot more than 100d, AND you're going to make a lot more than 100d by running it.
xdd surely
AM
who let him cooks?
Another bait build xdd
Why?
min maxed 8 million damage. 100 divine items
@@gizemlitarih4946 another tard in coms lol
@@gizemlitarih4946 tell me you dont know what you're talking about without saying you dont know what youre talking about
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