@KillAllBlacks the only thing is that my username doesn't wish death among specific race and my comment was only a reply to a comment you made, which is regarding someone else's business and isn't anything positive, but rather telling her what to do 🙃
@KillAllBlacks It's Amanda's business, wether she's sick or not (which is her private life, if she wanted to share this type of information with us then she would), I'm sure she doesn't appreciate comments like "you should eat more". And your name, as well as your profile picture plus your description can be interpreted in only one way. You're not even trying to hide that you're racist, why bother trying to excuse it now?
@KillAllBlacks if you doubt that Amanda will read your comment, why write it in the first place 🤨 Stop trying to excuse the existence of your highly offensive profile...
There was a trap in the series (can't remember which movie) where the setup was a woman, her boyfriend, and the guy she cheated on her husband with were trapped together and between them was a buzzsaw that could be moved along a track. They were only allowed to escape if one person died, so two people had to work together to push the buzzsaw to the person they wanted to kill.
When Saw VI came out in France no one took it seriously because it was pronounced "Saucisse", and I don't know any stronger argument against never-ending franchises
Holy frick, It's hard to explain but there is a bit of a meme amongst my friends and I about the worlds best movie being called sausage and if I had this information then I feel like my life would have been perfect.
There's a lot of "Saw six/Saucisse" memes if you look it up on the French web, with masterpieces such as "Saw six: the killer was from Bratwurst" or "Saw six: the return of the butcher". Just **chef's kiss**
After a while you become numb to that stuff. At a point you think you've seen everything until you do find something worse and feel horrible until you become numb and on and on it goes. There's a point where you say that it's enough and that you don't want to see and know about.
This is a series that really should’ve ended when John Kramer died, by the time he died his only known apprentice (Amanda) was dead so there was no one left.
@@Xehanort10 I’m surprised they haven’t revealed John has a secret brother or some shit considering all of the apprentices (mainly Logan and Dr. Gordon) were pulled out of the writers’ asses.
I agree. Amanda made sense as his apprentice. In her mind, he really did save her life and make her appreciate it. Without either of them, the series didn't really make much sense.
Same here, why bother replacing it for something inferior? I didn't get that. In the story, there is tons of audio of Kramer available for a cop to manipulate. Hell, this was even a plot point in the later sequels for how the feds proved it was Hoffman as Jigsaw 3.0. There was no need to replace it with something worse from a narrative perspective.
I used to be uncharacteristically fine with heavy blood and gore. Now I'm past my edgy phase and also way more sensitive. I wish I stayed numb to these messed up movies.
Yup same. I used to be able to watch movies like Saw, Hostel And even the Human Centipede films without flinching or feeling gross but now? Yeah nope not anymore. I have no idea why
@@BeetaroniPizza most likely this is the case, and having more life experience. I would say it's a positive if anything to be more sensitive to this kind of media. though I'm part of the horror community, I know desensitization is the norm and there's some unhealthy mindsets in regard to this kind of a thing and people often try to 1-up each other.
"...from someone, who shockingly sounds like Misa Amane in Death Note. So from here we're going into LIGHT spoilers..." Not sure that was intentional, but still made me laugh :D
I knew it as soon they mentioned a new partner and a rookie. I even correctly predicted the motive, although I got that wrong slightly. I thought he was going to be the brother of the kid that was shot in the car for giving the middle finger to that officer. It was easily the most obvious Saw twist since "Your son is in a safe place" and "the numbers are in the back of your mind" from Saw 2.
Honestly, Amanda's retrospectives are a public service. She watches these movies and presents them in an interesting way, so I NEVER have to watch...so yeh, put yourself through it. :) Thanks!?
My issue with saw franchise in general is that instead of being philosophical, it became a torture porn. Not to mention, jigsaw's motto itself is pretty absurd. As of spiral, I saw the twist coming from a mile. I can't exactly say why, but this movie felt empty.
@@crypt5129 - it hardly had a plot. Thing is the concept is good, but the execution is terrible. One can expect the others to be good, but can't force them to be good. How come jigsaw forgot about PTSD baffles me. Personally, I believe the series should've been ended the moment jigsaw died. Also, for this series to work, the subjects has to relatable or likeable. How many such characters are there? As a result, the core concept is flushed down the toilet and the series became torture porn.
@@crypt5129 - when I said plot, I mean the growth in the said subjects. Only the first two movies has some plot. The only characters that exhibits some growth are Amanda and Hoffman. sadly, both turned out to be opposite, particularly Hoffman. They way I see it, the makers of the series has no clue how to get the franchise moving forward. Also, the time line of the movie is jumbled. What I said is purely my opinion. You can disagree with it. I have no issue with that.
@@sarath431 The entire appeal of Saw is its convoluted story and climactic twists, and that’s an undeniable fact. If you want to think of it as just torture porn, fine, but you can’t say there’s more gore than plot because that’s just not true.
I watched this alone in a cinema. I was so disappointed. I thought the characters were wishy washy, their ideals were flimsy, the killer was obvious and none of the symbol was used correctly. Also the traps were ridiculous... like someone thought of the traps and then came up with a reason for them. Kramer would be rolling in his grave...if he was still in it...
Lol. It's also dumb that the SWAT didn't realize something was up with a guy floating in the air and for some reason turned on lights after they rushed in the room. So... no one used their brains. Everyone in this movie wasn't bright
Spoiler: As soon as Zeke gave his rookie partner his phone I said he's the killer. Because my phone will never leave my sight when someone else has it, lol. I'm glad she mentioned the phone in video.
she had just sat down she could have just came through the door which made the poster move but since she skipped to where she was already sitting it wasn’t obvious
I work at a theater myself and Ill tell ya this, NOT A LOT went to see spiral. like we mostly had crurella and quiet place 2 as our top. Like even dream horse had more people than spiral lol.
It would be like if Jason walked around without his mask on, the voice is really important to the experience, without it it just feels weird. Does that make sense.
I would love to see a retrospective of the saw movies! Especially from your perspective, and I also love the joke potential for it. Your vids are amazing, by the way!
Hey Amanda! I just wanted to thank you! During the 3rd lockdown of my country, I decided to rewatch twilight, and I found one of your videos on the movie. I used to not enjoy watching movies, but after binge watching a ton of your videos, you made my enjoyment for movies come back! Ever since I found your channel a few months back now, I have watched so many good movies because of your recommendations etc. And I just wanted to say thank you for making these very entertaining videos!
"Who the killer actually is seems pretty obvious passed a certain point." That certain point is the moment he introduces himself 😂😂 I was literally like "Oh he did it."
I was a little confused because whoever recorded the Jigsaw tapes definitely sounds like a woman, so I was on a totally different trail the whole time. (spoilers) the second his was the only trap they didn't show, though, I was like "HMMM... wonder who it is......"
Same, as soon as they said new partner from the academy, my brain went "He's the killer", the brief side plot trying to make it seem like it Samuel L Jackson was a waste of time tbh.
You’re genuinely the only horror you tuber I trust for honest reviews 🖤 I just feel like everyone else is influenced by the studios doing sponsorships but I feel like you always give your honest opinion not matter what.
a series retrospective on the entire Saw timeline, with your reactions to the trap scenes mixed in, would be the most amazing thing in the world. I would love to hear your opinions on the whole franchise and it’s lore, as well as your take on the themes of each entry. this is me letting you know: yes please Amanda, I want to see that!
Hi 3 months in the past Amanda, I still would love to see another video of you discussing the Saw franchise! The little discussion on your Sardonicast episode about it really interested me, and I’d love to hear more about your thoughts!
I would really be interested in you tackling a SAW retrospective. I have a love/hate relationship with the SAW movies. I'm absolutely not a fan of how they went into increasing shock horror with each new installment, but I also thought that there is more narrative cohesion in the first seven movies than I feel most people give them credit for. I won't go into spoilers, but I definitely still rewatch them for that cohesion (even if it wasn't anything grand). I enjoy your analysis of movies, so I would love to hear your thoughts if that's something you want to dive into.
0:14-0:34 I couldn't focus on what you were saying because the thing on your door that was swinging creeped me out. Guessing someone just closed the door but it freaked me out a bit xD
This franchise, man... I hated Saw 3 so much I tapped out. I have no idea what the series did after that, so for all I know the rest of the movies are all timeless masterpieces.
That's EXACTLY how I felt - I watched a lot of random pieces of ones after 3 or caught parts because they were being watched or in other videos so I knew where the story went but I was done sitting down and actively watching after 3
"It is unusually warm today. Like, it snowed this weekend." Canadian weather confirmed. At least it isn't just us over in the prairies that deal with that kinda thing.
I am surprised by how upset I was watching this film and they don't end it with the iconic line "game over" it's such a classic I felt he was going to say it, so when he didn't I was super mad
They should've just end this franchise with part 7. This movie made absolutely no sense whatsoever, it didn't answered to other SAW movies unanswered questions, and most importantly, Samuel Jackson was way too off for this movie. A bad copy-cat of the first movie made on a high-budget. I wish Hollywood would just stop fucking around with good franchises, and bring in new ideas to the table.
@@emyserozzi8088 I think this could have worked as it's own thing indepentant of saw, it has alot of relevant ideas to what's happening every day and does its horror very well
Last time I watched the Saw movies was when a friend invited us up to his cabin in the woods for some beers and a lot of our friends started tripping acid and someone put on Saw , needless to say the night was not fun
No, but seriously this was a joke in the new Harley Quinn series that you have to make sure that you end the bloodline or else you will have to deal with some revenge plot from the survivor.
@@Genegen7797 the survivor definitely deserved his revenge in harley quinn, dude had his entire family and extended family murdered by fairy tale creatures
@@Jeff-cg2ku the joke is way better because of that, usually in movies you kill ONE person, and then the son is like "i dont have any familly left" the concept of relatives only exist in series of unfortunate events it seems
I think it’s meant to directly target the issue of crooked cops and their “protect their own” mentality while using the Saw franchise to hammer it home but I can’t fully say since I haven’t seen the movie yet and I had to skip the part on who the killer was. I still enjoy Saw and plan on eventually seeing it though.
I completely understand your feelings on the movie and I don’t think Spiral is a particularly great movie on its own but as a huge fan of the Saw franchise, I absolutely love it. The thing I adore most about the movies is the dumb convoluted storyline and this one did it so well. I don’t want something air tight or logical, I just want a fun and over-complicated story. I actually really liked that the only real ties it has to the original movies are the spirals because it feels more like a story about how the jigsaw killings have inspired people in this world. The guy’s logic definitely doesn’t make much sense but it doesn’t really have to imo. It does a much better job of translating Saw into the modern day than Jigsaw did and I really appreciate it.
I'm a huge saw fan and recently got my dad into it, and we binge watched all 9 of them. and let me tell you, this one upset my dad SO much. he does not accept it as a saw movie, said the traps weren't that great and were bullshit (like the finger trap in particular seemed just unwinnable), the twist/reveal sucked, no jigsaw, etc. he hated this movie way more than saw 7. honestly I think he even just heard the new voice on the tapes say "I want to play a game" (he loves that line so much, he has started just randomly saying it to people in my family) and was like "absolutely not." so yeah, here's hoping that saw 10 is better. it'll be the first one he'll have seen in the theater so it would suck if it's as bad as this one. but they said it would make john kramer fans happy so he'll hopefully at least get a satisfactory "I want to play a game." I think that's the most important part.
I saw this movie in the theater with my best friend and said "that person is the killer" the second they were introduced. I was partially joking, partially not with that first comment. But, as time progressed, it became obvious that I was correct. After all, like you said, it's the only character who "dies", but you never see them die onscreen like you do with the rest of the victims. The Saw movies became less and less shocking as they progressed, which is a pretty big bummer to me. I'll always appreciate the series, though, because it was unique when it started and I can respect what the movies try to do for the horror genre.
I watched all of the SAW movies but i wouldn't call myself a fan. However with that said i thoroughly enjoyed the Spiral movie from start to finish. The twist to me at the end was everything. It broke my heart. All Zeke wanted to do was the right thing and was tortured for it. Loved the movie
Amandaaaa, another amazing review! Have you seen The Woman in the Window? I'd love to know your thoughts about it. It felt like a mix of my two favorite Hitchcock movies!
Truth be told, the only Saw film that me and my brother truly love is the first one. It's classic and it's perfect in every way. Though I've never seen any of the other movies to the full extent, I have seen a lot of the kills/traps and know what happens in them. I feel like after the first two films you only watch the others for the actual killing/traps rather than the story because it gets really hard to follow. Though I do believe Spiral seems to be better and more well-executed than Jigsaw from 2017, I still think they should just drop the movies and accept that it's dead and the only reason why people would continue to watch it is just for the kills/traps. But the first film is still good.
Man, I just came out of the theater from this one and I really thought it was pretty good. The level of tension and the intensity and brutality of the traps had me reeling. I also didn't see the twist coming. The plot itself was an interesting perspective to take the Saw franchise in. It's nothing extraordinary, but I certainly didn't see it as just another popcorn flick. Also extremely on the nose traps have always been a thing with Saw, so it's makes sense to see them like that here too.
I saw it with friends and when I heard the jigsaw voice I turned to my friends and said “okay he sounds like he’d be a fan of homestuck” Also it felt really weird when he was revealed as the villain like I think his acting was fine until then he just sounded really like robotic almost
Omg I was just looking and saw you are at 404k. I remember watching before 100k. Congrats to all your success. Love your commentary and humor. Keep making amazing content!!! 💕💕💕
The thing I never got about the original is if John believes everyone deserves a second chance and traps should be escapable, why was Adam condemned to die?
Because that's not his motivation. His motivation was to test how strong is the human survival instinct in Saw 1 and 2. He attempted suicide after discovering he had terminal cancer but at the moment he crashed his instinct kicked in and he wanted to live and grew to appreciate life. He wanted to know whether everyone has the same reaction, whether people can choose death or whether the will to survive will always overcome. "Live or die, make your choice". Donnie (the drug addict Amanda stabs to get the key) also had no way of surviving, he was going to OD regardless of whether Amanda stabbed him or not. Dr Gordon didn't need a second chance either, we saw that when the time came to start the affair, he backed out of it of his own accord. Plus, think of what it says on the tape to Zepp "Will you murder a mother and her child to save yourself? Listen carefully. If you will, there are rules" IF YOU WILL, Zepp could've chose the moral course of action. Plus, What exactly had Gordon's family (particularly his child) done to need a second chance? Nothing. Whether they deserved to die or not was besides the point. What will you do to survive was the thing he was testing. The later movies didn't seem to actually understand what Jigsaw was doing.
You are explaining the saw franchise so well that I want to enjoy them but I'm super not into gore (so big miss on that) and my mom dragged me to the first one when I was 8 so I'm forever traumatized. Literally the stuff of my nightmares
Same here. Even the poster of Saw(which I didn't finish the movie because I hate it...before) I was terrified and got traumatized. But now, I became a fan of this franchise 😂
You should give it a chance. Tons of people who didn’t like the other movies loved this movie. Not only is it less gory than most of the other movies, but it also ties in the different plot points better than the other movies at the end during the iconic twist.
Boyfriend called the twist when we saw the trailer. I binged the _Saw_ movies some years ago (by which I mean "I left them running in the background whilst doing uni work") and I'm kind of impressed by the speed it went from "yeah, these people did bad things, but who is this dude to play judge, jury and executioner when he himself has probs done bad shit in the past?" to "How many ways can we kill a bitch?". Kind of glad they at least _tried_ to pull it back by adding substance to it with _Spiral_ . Emphasis on 'tried'.
The movie felt like the studio took 2 separate movies and mashed them together. I was excited for a new fresh take on it but it just didn’t feel like a saw movie, it was more of a cop movie.
Idk, I watched and something that really bugged me was their lack of a sense of urgency, like when Zeke knew that the killer had the chief he TOOK THE DAMN TIME TO PARK IN THE GARAGE AND WALK AROUND NOT RUNNING
Honestly Amanda, this has nothing to do with your video as it is, as always, friggin great (!) but where do you get your shirts??? Like, I need one of those! :D
max minghella's character is 27, which is about the right age to have been an original twilight stan who is now in full twilight renaissance mode. 10/10 for twilight stanning accuracy!
Another really big clue is that if you're paying attention closely the witness that was shot had a name tag on his shirt that said Charlie which was supposedly the name of the killers son so he had it tattooed on him
I’m not saying this movie is bad…. but I listened to you briefly describe his backstory, said”it’s him,” and then was right. And I’m usually reeeaaalll bad at that sort of thing😂💀💀
I for one am shocked and pleased that they've finally managed to bring Twilight into the Saw universe.
Oh dear god I am both pleased and disappointed
I would totally watch that Saw retrospective . If you’re up to it I mean, I’m well aware that that will be quite the chore.
Amanda back at it again with the Creepypastas
Really damn
I mean... they had a very toxic relationship and a baby bit itself through Bella's womb. So you could argue Twilight was already in the Saw-Universe.
I'm a simple man. I see Amanda losing her mind in the thumbnail, I click.
@KillAllBlacks Hi 😃 mind your own business 😊 you should talk less ❤️
@@user-gf5lq2pe3q yeah I know, but they have been commenting a lot of stuff like that one right here... It's still spreading hate...
@KillAllBlacks the only thing is that my username doesn't wish death among specific race and my comment was only a reply to a comment you made, which is regarding someone else's business and isn't anything positive, but rather telling her what to do 🙃
@KillAllBlacks It's Amanda's business, wether she's sick or not (which is her private life, if she wanted to share this type of information with us then she would), I'm sure she doesn't appreciate comments like "you should eat more". And your name, as well as your profile picture plus your description can be interpreted in only one way. You're not even trying to hide that you're racist, why bother trying to excuse it now?
@KillAllBlacks if you doubt that Amanda will read your comment, why write it in the first place 🤨
Stop trying to excuse the existence of your highly offensive profile...
I saw this in theaters and whenever Chris Rock spoke or screamed all I could mentally picture was Marty from Madagascar 💀
Same here. Marty was my first exposure to Chris Rock's acting/voice acting so everytime I hear his voice I think of Marty.
THAT'S why it sounded so familiar to me 💀
Thank god I wasn't the only one 💀 I just couldn't take him seriously I kept giggling to myself
Aw sugah honey iced tea!
@@BlackLivesMatter23 🤣🤣🤣
After putting yourself through Human Centipede *and* Hostel, you mustered the strength to watch this one? You need a medal, girl.
haha she really does
@@DyslexicMitochondria Hi brooo! I watch ur channel. Love ur vids
This is a LOT less brutal than the last handful of Saw movies
@@AmandaTheJedi yeah even James A Janisse, (Dead Meat), admired that this wasn't as graphic than the other Saw movies.
Miraculous pog
Saw: New Moon
Jacob and Edward are trapped in different death machines and Bella has to chose which one she'll save.
There was a trap in the series (can't remember which movie) where the setup was a woman, her boyfriend, and the guy she cheated on her husband with were trapped together and between them was a buzzsaw that could be moved along a track. They were only allowed to escape if one person died, so two people had to work together to push the buzzsaw to the person they wanted to kill.
I would totally watch that
@Karina Sanchez you are correct
I want this... NOW!
Tbf I’d watch the shit outta that
When Saw VI came out in France no one took it seriously because it was pronounced "Saucisse", and I don't know any stronger argument against never-ending franchises
For anyone who doesn't know french, "Saucisse" means Sausage in french. And yes it was such a joke at the time. 😂
Ironically, Saw 6 was one of the best/well-received and fan favorites of the entire series.
Holy frick, It's hard to explain but there is a bit of a meme amongst my friends and I about the worlds best movie being called sausage and if I had this information then I feel like my life would have been perfect.
@@MeCooper You're welcome to use this bit of French pop culture to your heart's content. Always happy to further validate a meme
There's a lot of "Saw six/Saucisse" memes if you look it up on the French web, with masterpieces such as "Saw six: the killer was from Bratwurst" or "Saw six: the return of the butcher". Just **chef's kiss**
Amanda puts herself through so much for us. If she watches too many more, she will definitely need to be Team Therapy to deal with the PTSD.
After a while you become numb to that stuff. At a point you think you've seen everything until you do find something worse and feel horrible until you become numb and on and on it goes. There's a point where you say that it's enough and that you don't want to see and know about.
Well i will say as bad of rep Saw gets. The first 2 are amazing. But i feel bad because i want her to do a retrospective lol
Cinema Therapy?
She’ll have to do a crossover with Cinema Therapy 😂
She should watch Martyrs or like literally almost any recent French horror films. That’s some REALLY fucked up stuff.
I remember this old TH-cam video about a hypothetical Saw 12 movie. Well we're three movies away from it being real.
Huh, there's 8 Saw movies?
@@Nekoszowa Saw 1-7, Jigsaw, and now Spiral. I watched all of them leading up to Spiral, so they're still pretty fresh in my brain lol
Two now
This is a series that really should’ve ended when John Kramer died, by the time he died his only known apprentice (Amanda) was dead so there was no one left.
The series is deader than Jigsaw himself at this point.
@@Xehanort10 I’m surprised they haven’t revealed John has a secret brother or some shit considering all of the apprentices (mainly Logan and Dr. Gordon) were pulled out of the writers’ asses.
I agree. Amanda made sense as his apprentice. In her mind, he really did save her life and make her appreciate it. Without either of them, the series didn't really make much sense.
@@heatherduke5410 Yep.
Hollywood's only income is beating dead horses.
I also HATED the voice of the Jigsaw killer. Like you don’t need to bring back Tobin Bell but at the very least make his voice sound menacing.
Agreed.
Same
Same here, why bother replacing it for something inferior? I didn't get that. In the story, there is tons of audio of Kramer available for a cop to manipulate. Hell, this was even a plot point in the later sequels for how the feds proved it was Hoffman as Jigsaw 3.0. There was no need to replace it with something worse from a narrative perspective.
It sounded so childish I could not take it seriously it sounded like a 12 year old TH-camr trying to imitate jigsaw
Sounded like the Carmen Winstead meme
_I am _*_Kira_*
"So now we're going into *Light* Spoilers"
Oh Amanda 😏😂
Came to the comments just to upvote this because I knew it would be here! Thank you!
please do a Saw retrospective, but also take your time because i don't think you'd wanna subject yourself to the later films for too long
Right? She said it and I thought "Oh I would like to see that!", but immediately felt bad bc that'd mean she'd have to watch them all
Yes! I’d love to see Amanda’s take on the whole soap opera-esque Saw series
Lmao who wouldn’t want that
Honestly the later Saw movies are far more enjoyable than the slogging middles. 6 in particular is a pretty damn good time
@@dyldragon1 100% agree
I used to be uncharacteristically fine with heavy blood and gore. Now I'm past my edgy phase and also way more sensitive. I wish I stayed numb to these messed up movies.
Yup same. I used to be able to watch movies like Saw, Hostel And even the Human Centipede films without flinching or feeling gross but now? Yeah nope not anymore. I have no idea why
Same tbh. Fake movie gore doesn’t really bother me still but certain shows and plot lines I used to just brush off really fuck with me now-
@@Alex-jg2bc shot in the dark but developing more empathy perhaps
@@raicrush people jumping out in the dark scare me in a movie
@@BeetaroniPizza most likely this is the case, and having more life experience. I would say it's a positive if anything to be more sensitive to this kind of media. though I'm part of the horror community, I know desensitization is the norm and there's some unhealthy mindsets in regard to this kind of a thing and people often try to 1-up each other.
Twilight Supremacy seems like something that'd get vandalized on a sign Lickety-split
"...from someone, who shockingly sounds like Misa Amane in Death Note. So from here we're going into LIGHT spoilers..." Not sure that was intentional, but still made me laugh :D
This isn't related to the current video, but I know you really liked The Velocipastor, and I wanted to know if you'd seen Killer Sofa or Llamageddon.
The Velocipastor and Killer Sofa are a riot, have you watched Rubber? The story about a killer tire?
@@senamilemlotshwa2878 one of my favorite lines: "What color is the tire?"
Have not seen the movie or the trailer, but as soon as William said he was inspired to join the force by Zeke's dad, I knew it
You must be really smart
The final trap though was really good, I avoided trailers and that one caught me off guard.
I knew it as soon they mentioned a new partner and a rookie. I even correctly predicted the motive, although I got that wrong slightly. I thought he was going to be the brother of the kid that was shot in the car for giving the middle finger to that officer. It was easily the most obvious Saw twist since "Your son is in a safe place" and "the numbers are in the back of your mind" from Saw 2.
@@justheretocommentokdontwan685 I don't know, they're all pretty predictable after the first.
Same here. The skinned body was the final nail in the coffin. That's when it was so obvious that it was insulting
Honestly, Amanda's retrospectives are a public service. She watches these movies and presents them in an interesting way, so I NEVER have to watch...so yeh, put yourself through it. :) Thanks!?
Whats wrong with watching the movies lol
My issue with saw franchise in general is that instead of being philosophical, it became a torture porn. Not to mention, jigsaw's motto itself is pretty absurd.
As of spiral, I saw the twist coming from a mile. I can't exactly say why, but this movie felt empty.
Didn’t become a torture porn, the focus was always on the plot. Gore was just an extra
@@crypt5129 - it hardly had a plot. Thing is the concept is good, but the execution is terrible. One can expect the others to be good, but can't force them to be good. How come jigsaw forgot about PTSD baffles me.
Personally, I believe the series should've been ended the moment jigsaw died. Also, for this series to work, the subjects has to relatable or likeable. How many such characters are there? As a result, the core concept is flushed down the toilet and the series became torture porn.
@@sarath431 Literally the entire thing was plot, what are you on lmao
@@crypt5129 - when I said plot, I mean the growth in the said subjects. Only the first two movies has some plot. The only characters that exhibits some growth are Amanda and Hoffman. sadly, both turned out to be opposite, particularly Hoffman. They way I see it, the makers of the series has no clue how to get the franchise moving forward. Also, the time line of the movie is jumbled.
What I said is purely my opinion. You can disagree with it. I have no issue with that.
@@sarath431 The entire appeal of Saw is its convoluted story and climactic twists, and that’s an undeniable fact. If you want to think of it as just torture porn, fine, but you can’t say there’s more gore than plot because that’s just not true.
I watched this alone in a cinema. I was so disappointed. I thought the characters were wishy washy, their ideals were flimsy, the killer was obvious and none of the symbol was used correctly. Also the traps were ridiculous... like someone thought of the traps and then came up with a reason for them. Kramer would be rolling in his grave...if he was still in it...
Nice nod to bring the _light_ spoilers right after the Death Note reference 😂
Lol. It's also dumb that the SWAT didn't realize something was up with a guy floating in the air and for some reason turned on lights after they rushed in the room. So... no one used their brains. Everyone in this movie wasn't bright
To be fair, a lot of American cops have a very strong "shoot first" mentality.
Spoiler:
As soon as Zeke gave his rookie partner his phone I said he's the killer. Because my phone will never leave my sight when someone else has it, lol. I'm glad she mentioned the phone in video.
Amanda casually having a ghost in the background 0:13
I'm more concerned about the lack of people who spotted it
It moves for so long lmao??
she had just sat down she could have just came through the door which made the poster move but since she skipped to where she was already sitting it wasn’t obvious
I was coming down in the comments to look! I just imagined her flinging her hoodie off behind her and it hit the poster. xD
It went on for so loong lmaoo!
Ok please tell me I'm not the only one who came in blind, saw the movie title, and thought this was going to be an Uzumaki American adaptation 😅
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It would be really hard making that manga look good in live action
me too arrgjhh i almost wish it was
@@anticocomilk they already did it in the 90s
@@itadakimonday i know. It didn't look good.
I work at a theater myself and Ill tell ya this, NOT A LOT went to see spiral. like we mostly had crurella and quiet place 2 as our top. Like even dream horse had more people than spiral lol.
A Saw Retrospective would be great!
Amanda, I am BEGGING you to make a Saw series retrospective. When I tell you I’ve binged every saw series I can find-
Chris Rock: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
*elevator shuts*
(music) Everybody haaaaaaates Chriiiiiiiiiis.
That would've made the movie for me.
Imagine if he constantly gave narration like on Everybody Hates Chris.
Honestly, it’s not really the same without Tobin Bells voice.
It would be like if Jason walked around without his mask on, the voice is really important to the experience, without it it just feels weird. Does that make sense.
I can’t stomach these sorts of films, so happy for the spoilery summery from Amanda so I can at least discus them with my friends who love them 😅
Amanda’s reenactment of her reaction proves that she’s a professional actor.
I would love to see a retrospective of the saw movies! Especially from your perspective, and I also love the joke potential for it. Your vids are amazing, by the way!
Hey Amanda! I just wanted to thank you! During the 3rd lockdown of my country, I decided to rewatch twilight, and I found one of your videos on the movie. I used to not enjoy watching movies, but after binge watching a ton of your videos, you made my enjoyment for movies come back! Ever since I found your channel a few months back now, I have watched so many good movies because of your recommendations etc. And I just wanted to say thank you for making these very entertaining videos!
"Who the killer actually is seems pretty obvious passed a certain point."
That certain point is the moment he introduces himself 😂😂
I was literally like "Oh he did it."
I was a little confused because whoever recorded the Jigsaw tapes definitely sounds like a woman, so I was on a totally different trail the whole time. (spoilers) the second his was the only trap they didn't show, though, I was like "HMMM... wonder who it is......"
Same, as soon as they said new partner from the academy, my brain went "He's the killer", the brief side plot trying to make it seem like it Samuel L Jackson was a waste of time tbh.
You’re genuinely the only horror you tuber I trust for honest reviews 🖤 I just feel like everyone else is influenced by the studios doing sponsorships but I feel like you always give your honest opinion not matter what.
a series retrospective on the entire Saw timeline, with your reactions to the trap scenes mixed in, would be the most amazing thing in the world. I would love to hear your opinions on the whole franchise and it’s lore, as well as your take on the themes of each entry. this is me letting you know: yes please Amanda, I want to see that!
Hi 3 months in the past Amanda, I still would love to see another video of you discussing the Saw franchise! The little discussion on your Sardonicast episode about it really interested me, and I’d love to hear more about your thoughts!
I would really be interested in you tackling a SAW retrospective. I have a love/hate relationship with the SAW movies. I'm absolutely not a fan of how they went into increasing shock horror with each new installment, but I also thought that there is more narrative cohesion in the first seven movies than I feel most people give them credit for. I won't go into spoilers, but I definitely still rewatch them for that cohesion (even if it wasn't anything grand). I enjoy your analysis of movies, so I would love to hear your thoughts if that's something you want to dive into.
The one about the liar starring Sean Patrick Flannery was pretty good and it gave a valid plotline
@@homelesshannah50 Do you remember which one that is? I’m terrible with actor names, haha
@@Rikrobat little late, but saw 7, he played Bobby Dagen
19:01 I loved the wording there "light spoilers" just after the Kira scene
"Necromancy" is an extra good description for this kind of movie, haha.
Great video! Your delivery is quite entertaining and the audio/visual quality is excellent. Subscribed!
I definitely need more content about the Saw franchise.
0:14-0:34 I couldn't focus on what you were saying because the thing on your door that was swinging creeped me out.
Guessing someone just closed the door but it freaked me out a bit xD
This franchise, man... I hated Saw 3 so much I tapped out. I have no idea what the series did after that, so for all I know the rest of the movies are all timeless masterpieces.
That's EXACTLY how I felt - I watched a lot of random pieces of ones after 3 or caught parts because they were being watched or in other videos so I knew where the story went but I was done sitting down and actively watching after 3
@Armando Aranda no
@Armando Aranda just....no Armando...
@Armando Aranda the fuck is wrong with you, Armando?
"It is unusually warm today. Like, it snowed this weekend." Canadian weather confirmed. At least it isn't just us over in the prairies that deal with that kinda thing.
I am surprised by how upset I was watching this film and they don't end it with the iconic line "game over" it's such a classic I felt he was going to say it, so when he didn't I was super mad
They should've just end this franchise with part 7. This movie made absolutely no sense whatsoever, it didn't answered to other SAW movies unanswered questions, and most importantly, Samuel Jackson was way too off for this movie.
A bad copy-cat of the first movie made on a high-budget.
I wish Hollywood would just stop fucking around with good franchises, and bring in new ideas to the table.
@@emyserozzi8088 I think this could have worked as it's own thing indepentant of saw, it has alot of relevant ideas to what's happening every day and does its horror very well
A (nearly) 20 minute review, and not a single "COP-y cat" pun? Dammit, Amanda! What the hell am I subscribed for?
Last time I watched the Saw movies was when a friend invited us up to his cabin in the woods for some beers and a lot of our friends started tripping acid and someone put on Saw , needless to say the night was not fun
So the moral of the movie is- leave no witnesses especially when it's the son.
(Yes, I'm joking)
No, but seriously this was a joke in the new Harley Quinn series that you have to make sure that you end the bloodline or else you will have to deal with some revenge plot from the survivor.
@@Genegen7797 so who did it better- Spiral or Harley Quinn? I'm gonna guess that it's the latter.
@@katherinealvarez9216 Definitely Harley Quinn.
@@Genegen7797 the survivor definitely deserved his revenge in harley quinn, dude had his entire family and extended family murdered by fairy tale creatures
@@Jeff-cg2ku the joke is way better because of that, usually in movies you kill ONE person, and then the son is like "i dont have any familly left" the concept of relatives only exist in series of unfortunate events it seems
I saw the poster on the door moving from side to side and got a little bit scared lol
I think it’s meant to directly target the issue of crooked cops and their “protect their own” mentality while using the Saw franchise to hammer it home but I can’t fully say since I haven’t seen the movie yet and I had to skip the part on who the killer was. I still enjoy Saw and plan on eventually seeing it though.
I would love to see a retrospective on the Saw franchise 👀
I completely understand your feelings on the movie and I don’t think Spiral is a particularly great movie on its own but as a huge fan of the Saw franchise, I absolutely love it. The thing I adore most about the movies is the dumb convoluted storyline and this one did it so well. I don’t want something air tight or logical, I just want a fun and over-complicated story. I actually really liked that the only real ties it has to the original movies are the spirals because it feels more like a story about how the jigsaw killings have inspired people in this world. The guy’s logic definitely doesn’t make much sense but it doesn’t really have to imo. It does a much better job of translating Saw into the modern day than Jigsaw did and I really appreciate it.
I'm a huge saw fan and recently got my dad into it, and we binge watched all 9 of them. and let me tell you, this one upset my dad SO much. he does not accept it as a saw movie, said the traps weren't that great and were bullshit (like the finger trap in particular seemed just unwinnable), the twist/reveal sucked, no jigsaw, etc. he hated this movie way more than saw 7. honestly I think he even just heard the new voice on the tapes say "I want to play a game" (he loves that line so much, he has started just randomly saying it to people in my family) and was like "absolutely not."
so yeah, here's hoping that saw 10 is better. it'll be the first one he'll have seen in the theater so it would suck if it's as bad as this one. but they said it would make john kramer fans happy so he'll hopefully at least get a satisfactory "I want to play a game." I think that's the most important part.
I found your comment after Saw X released, so I have to ask: what did he think?
@@4amlibra he heard john say "I want to play a game" and was immediately happy. His faith has been restored. 🙏
Literally just got home from watching this in theaters!
I was so disappointed. They had the perfect opportunity to pitch the two doctors against one another as a battle for the next Jigsaw.
I saw this movie in the theater with my best friend and said "that person is the killer" the second they were introduced. I was partially joking, partially not with that first comment. But, as time progressed, it became obvious that I was correct. After all, like you said, it's the only character who "dies", but you never see them die onscreen like you do with the rest of the victims. The Saw movies became less and less shocking as they progressed, which is a pretty big bummer to me. I'll always appreciate the series, though, because it was unique when it started and I can respect what the movies try to do for the horror genre.
I would watch a Saw series video! I watched them in middle school with my dad (way too young, oh god) and would like to look back on them as an adult.
I would absolutely love to see a Saw retrospective! Though I'm happy with whatever pace you feel comfortable doing it with.
I watched all of the SAW movies but i wouldn't call myself a fan. However with that said i thoroughly enjoyed the Spiral movie from start to finish. The twist to me at the end was everything. It broke my heart. All Zeke wanted to do was the right thing and was tortured for it. Loved the movie
I’m loving the spoiler format for these
I'm going to save this video for later, as I want to see the movie first (for once)! See you in the future!
The framed pic of Ellie and Dina gives me serotonin ♡
Amandaaaa, another amazing review! Have you seen The Woman in the Window? I'd love to know your thoughts about it. It felt like a mix of my two favorite Hitchcock movies!
I love this format, keeping the spoilers to their own sections is a great idea!
“It is unusually warm today”...”it snowed this weekend”..yes you are most definitely in Canada 😂
Only stumbled across your channel today and now you have a new upload, score! Haha Love what I've seen so far so I subbed. 😊🙏
Truth be told, the only Saw film that me and my brother truly love is the first one. It's classic and it's perfect in every way. Though I've never seen any of the other movies to the full extent, I have seen a lot of the kills/traps and know what happens in them. I feel like after the first two films you only watch the others for the actual killing/traps rather than the story because it gets really hard to follow. Though I do believe Spiral seems to be better and more well-executed than Jigsaw from 2017, I still think they should just drop the movies and accept that it's dead and the only reason why people would continue to watch it is just for the kills/traps. But the first film is still good.
I have no intention of seeing this movie, but as soon as you said who the villain wasn't, I was able to work it out instantly.
Man, I just came out of the theater from this one and I really thought it was pretty good. The level of tension and the intensity and brutality of the traps had me reeling. I also didn't see the twist coming. The plot itself was an interesting perspective to take the Saw franchise in. It's nothing extraordinary, but I certainly didn't see it as just another popcorn flick. Also extremely on the nose traps have always been a thing with Saw, so it's makes sense to see them like that here too.
Wow thanks for the Now You See Me spoilers, I wasn’t expecting that 😂
I saw it with friends and when I heard the jigsaw voice I turned to my friends and said “okay he sounds like he’d be a fan of homestuck”
Also it felt really weird when he was revealed as the villain like I think his acting was fine until then he just sounded really like robotic almost
Omg I was just looking and saw you are at 404k. I remember watching before 100k. Congrats to all your success. Love your commentary and humor. Keep making amazing content!!! 💕💕💕
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Yes Zeke is a Pulp Fiction reference.
The basement evidence room is named "Vincent and Jules"
I was all-in for Spiral...up until last week when I found out that Chris Rock wasn't also directing/overseeing it
That poster swinging behind her had me thinking more than that movie’s plot did
The thing I never got about the original is if John believes everyone deserves a second chance and traps should be escapable, why was Adam condemned to die?
Because that's not his motivation. His motivation was to test how strong is the human survival instinct in Saw 1 and 2. He attempted suicide after discovering he had terminal cancer but at the moment he crashed his instinct kicked in and he wanted to live and grew to appreciate life. He wanted to know whether everyone has the same reaction, whether people can choose death or whether the will to survive will always overcome. "Live or die, make your choice". Donnie (the drug addict Amanda stabs to get the key) also had no way of surviving, he was going to OD regardless of whether Amanda stabbed him or not. Dr Gordon didn't need a second chance either, we saw that when the time came to start the affair, he backed out of it of his own accord. Plus, think of what it says on the tape to Zepp "Will you murder a mother and her child to save yourself? Listen carefully. If you will, there are rules" IF YOU WILL, Zepp could've chose the moral course of action. Plus, What exactly had Gordon's family (particularly his child) done to need a second chance? Nothing. Whether they deserved to die or not was besides the point. What will you do to survive was the thing he was testing.
The later movies didn't seem to actually understand what Jigsaw was doing.
Found your channel today and I love it ♥️
You are explaining the saw franchise so well that I want to enjoy them but I'm super not into gore (so big miss on that) and my mom dragged me to the first one when I was 8 so I'm forever traumatized. Literally the stuff of my nightmares
>mom dragged me
>I was 8
wait holdup
Girl I want words with your mother
Same here. Even the poster of Saw(which I didn't finish the movie because I hate it...before) I was terrified and got traumatized. But now, I became a fan of this franchise 😂
My mother *explained* it to me when I was 5 and terrifying me so kudos to you for surviving that
The main problem with the first Saw was that a dude dying of stage four lung cancer is quietly laying on the floor for hours.
To be honest, I saw this as soon as I got off work friday and it is probably my third favorite film in the series after Saw and Saw 2
I would love a full franchise retrospective! Great video!
Definitely not watching a SAW movie, but I was curious about Chris Rock being in this, so thanks for satisfying my curiosity.
You should give it a chance. Tons of people who didn’t like the other movies loved this movie.
Not only is it less gory than most of the other movies, but it also ties in the different plot points better than the other movies at the end during the iconic twist.
Clicked as soon as I saw! I've been following the Saw franchise for awhile and I'm excited to see your opinion on this
Boyfriend called the twist when we saw the trailer.
I binged the _Saw_ movies some years ago (by which I mean "I left them running in the background whilst doing uni work") and I'm kind of impressed by the speed it went from "yeah, these people did bad things, but who is this dude to play judge, jury and executioner when he himself has probs done bad shit in the past?" to "How many ways can we kill a bitch?". Kind of glad they at least _tried_ to pull it back by adding substance to it with _Spiral_ . Emphasis on 'tried'.
Yes please, a retrospective would be too amazing!!!
PS thank you so much for the spoiler warnings!
The movie felt like the studio took 2 separate movies and mashed them together. I was excited for a new fresh take on it but it just didn’t feel like a saw movie, it was more of a cop movie.
Idk, I watched and something that really bugged me was their lack of a sense of urgency, like when Zeke knew that the killer had the chief he TOOK THE DAMN TIME TO PARK IN THE GARAGE AND WALK AROUND NOT RUNNING
Honestly Amanda, this has nothing to do with your video as it is, as always, friggin great (!) but where do you get your shirts??? Like, I need one of those! :D
I’m not sure about others but I have this one and it’s from H&M
max minghella's character is 27, which is about the right age to have been an original twilight stan who is now in full twilight renaissance mode. 10/10 for twilight stanning accuracy!
Will was the killer the whole time in a "Who done it " movie, Horns with Daniel Racliff. It was dumb to typecast this man.
Lmao the moment I saw the trailer for Spiral and saw the bad guy from Horns I knew he was gonna be the killer in Spiral.
Another really big clue is that if you're paying attention closely the witness that was shot had a name tag on his shirt that said Charlie which was supposedly the name of the killers son so he had it tattooed on him
I’m not saying this movie is bad…. but I listened to you briefly describe his backstory, said”it’s him,” and then was right. And I’m usually reeeaaalll bad at that sort of thing😂💀💀
I am not into body horror at all but my bestie is and i can stomach it when it’s presented like this at first. So thank you for this.
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS AMANDA!!!! (so glad I can finally be early for once! I've binged your entire channel probably 3 times!) Keep up the awesome work! :)
Thank you!
For the first minute of this vid, all I could focus on was that swinging poster on the door
When are we getting the Amandathejedi, Swell Entertainment, Daniel Greene crossover stream?
I knew the killer immediately when one of the traps couldn’t possibly make sense as a trap, I was like nope that’s can’t work, that’s the killer.