LGR - Life and Death - Apple IIGS Game Review

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  • Put on your surgeon's mask and gloves, it's time to operate! Life & Death puts you in the shoes of an abdominal surgeon fresh out of med school. While the goal is to save lives, whether or not you want to play by the rules is up to you.

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  • @Fuzy2K
    @Fuzy2K 10 ปีที่แล้ว +359

    I love how the game tells you that carving "FART" into a patient "wasn't the proper procedure".

    • @robertaviles8451
      @robertaviles8451 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      That'll teach em to eat beans! 😅 I died laughing!

  • @jasonkrug7928
    @jasonkrug7928 9 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    Wow all those little extras included with the game like the fake letter and cool booklets. You just don't get those extra touches anymore, now you're lucky to get a 2 page "manual"

    • @austin5623isawesome
      @austin5623isawesome 8 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Where all the manual is just basic controls and seizure warnings.

    • @mslita09
      @mslita09 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Right!

    • @wu1ming9shi
      @wu1ming9shi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      yeah and the actual tutorial is mandatory in EVERY game rather than printing it in that book so that it doesn't conflict with the experience of the game itself.

    •  6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Unless you get the collector's edition. Then you'll be hard pressed to find space for all the plastic tat.

    • @Fakan
      @Fakan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I honestly miss that. I remember being seriously excited when Working Designs rereleased the LUNAR series on the PlayStation back in the day, and where most companies would have just pushed out a simple port and been done with it, WD rebuilt the game from the ground up with bonus features included, included a soundtrack CD, a Behind The Scenes DVD including outtakes and such, and threw in a hard cover instruction book with concept art, comparisons between the original and rerelease, and a "getting started" strategy guide. /That/ made me excited about games again... so of course the company collapsed. =(

  • @shaunearsom7420
    @shaunearsom7420 8 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I remember cutting open patients, dumping all of my tools in them, and then sewing them back up and sending them on their way. Those were good times....

  • @Hamieee
    @Hamieee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    so, the patient woke up, and his skeleton was missing! anyway, that's how I lost my medical license...

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I don't think you realize something... One of the very first videos I did here was a quick review on The Sims 3. That got me my initial audience. Around this time I also started pursuing my other interests in vids, like vintage hardware/software. The Sims games are a part of my life & a big part of what I do here. It's always been this way on this channel and will stay that way so long as they keep releasing them. I still do way more retro vids than Sims ones, I don't see why you're complaining.

    • @Litepaw
      @Litepaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I feel like i found a gem from the past

    • @karlagerman-skrinjaric6548
      @karlagerman-skrinjaric6548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Litepaw I wonder to which comment he was replying to hahahaha

    • @marinaschulz3183
      @marinaschulz3183 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@karlagerman-skrinjaric6548 same haha!

    • @ziggybowman6875
      @ziggybowman6875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What happened to the thumbnail? Now it shows the scene with the phone instead of the Title Card with the name of the game.

  • @Beelze_Bubbles
    @Beelze_Bubbles 8 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Aw you didn't include the scream when you cut into the patient without anesthesia. Aaaaaaaah!

    • @Th3Raz96
      @Th3Raz96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That scared the piss out of me the first time it happened

  • @DaL33T5
    @DaL33T5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    2:00 That mask would be a huge selling point at this particular point in 2020.

    • @BrokenCrayonStudios
      @BrokenCrayonStudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I was just about to say the same thing lol

    • @BabusGameRoom
      @BabusGameRoom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And 2021. Darn! I thought I'd be the first one to comment during the pandemic! lmao

    • @dormcat
      @dormcat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the title screen at 2:20 too.

    • @ryandevan2793
      @ryandevan2793 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great now i hate all of you! Good Job!

    • @UnknownName5050
      @UnknownName5050 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah they helped so much 🙃

  • @CheeseburgerFreedomMan
    @CheeseburgerFreedomMan 8 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    Dr Pepper... is back

    • @azizabdul8914
      @azizabdul8914 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      and he's come for MORE

    • @ilovesmosh2012
      @ilovesmosh2012 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      DICKS.

    • @Deathly66
      @Deathly66 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheeseburger Freedom Man lmao

  • @DukeNukem2417
    @DukeNukem2417 10 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Holy crap, LGR looked creepy snapping that glove on.......

    • @aeriumsoft
      @aeriumsoft 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lol yea right

  • @digitalrailroader
    @digitalrailroader 10 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    heh, its like a Surgeon Simulator 1988!

  • @jakarnilson
    @jakarnilson 10 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I had the PC version, no pager/copyright system. I could never properly operate on a patient. The scalpel would always kill the patient, and a screen of red would descend. Those manuals would have been some help...

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Indeed! Stay tuned for more on this :D

  • @cringecasserole
    @cringecasserole 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I need to buy the game for the mask and gloves. You know, shortages and stuff.

  • @ClassicGaminer2014
    @ClassicGaminer2014 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    You were right "Someone comes with slight discomfort, put him under the UltraScan and see what his insides look like". If you want to see if his/her aorta has grown prematurely

  • @GentleHeretic
    @GentleHeretic 9 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I almost died laughing when you put on the mask and gloves! Best served at 0.25x with the most ominous music in your collection!

  • @angelm2770
    @angelm2770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So I see we all flew to the comments after seeing the mask and gloves 💀💀

  • @mahtnez
    @mahtnez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is one of those games that had my family convinced I was a psychopath just because I'd be cracking up while carving patients up and listening to them scream. ;/

    • @Blackadder75
      @Blackadder75 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It still convinced me that you are a psychopath, 30 years later

    • @DOSRetroGamer
      @DOSRetroGamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you?

  • @puptented
    @puptented 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this game looks awesome! I've never heard of it, and all the little features like the mask and gloves and the small booklet on surgery and even the copy protection... it really shows how much love was put into this game. thanks for showing me this! I'm gonna go download this now...!

  • @agreenblinker
    @agreenblinker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    2012 - Comes with a mask and gloves - what a funny concept!
    2020 - IT COMES WITH A MASK AND GLOVES?! - I WILL GIVE YOU $200 FOR THAT GAME!

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No. Sorry. I think I've said this to you before, but I got rid of it because it was more trouble than it was worth. Lots of people complained about it being unnecessary and somewhat aggravating, and I agree. It did nothing to improve the video in any substantial way. Stats show that most skipped it or left the video before it was done. Plus I had it for a long time and I got bored of it. It's not coming back. I will continue to tweak the current intro, but the old ones as they were are done for.

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Actually, the graphics are arguably better on the Mac version even though they're in black and white. The resolution is higher and the graphics are more detailed, so it's a bit easier to do surgery.

  • @Kyntteri
    @Kyntteri 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ah, that music right in the beginning. Budbrain Megademo (Amiga, 1990)
    And the end sections of it were totally NSFW.

  • @juliadesrocher7804
    @juliadesrocher7804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    little did we know how important that mask would be 8 years later....

  • @Shadowthehedgehogxx3
    @Shadowthehedgehogxx3 8 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    DOCTOR PEPPER

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I freaking love Carnivores. What an intense hunting game, especially when you get past the herbivores and start going after the straight up carnivores. Incredibly satisfying to walk around your trophy room after a successful hunt, hehe. The later games in the series are pretty good too, but the original two games are still my preference.

  • @SolidSonicTH
    @SolidSonicTH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Are you using that mask and gloves?

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which name, phreakindee? Just like it's spelled: freak-in-dee. It's also said several times in the Slag Voss interview on my channel.

  • @ProfRenderer
    @ProfRenderer 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    5:28 I noticed that you used the DOS version of Life and Death for the "FART" operation, but when you're explaining the operation mode at 6:10, it's the Apple IIGS version. How so?

    • @LGR
      @LGR  9 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Simple: I switched over to the DOS version there, since the IIGS version doesn't allow you to just cut patients up like that.

    • @ProfRenderer
      @ProfRenderer 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah, I see. I figured something was different with those versions.

    • @ProfRenderer
      @ProfRenderer 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      kingcrimson234 XD That would be hilarious!

    • @chamele0nday
      @chamele0nday 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lucky that Joel got the DOS version, then

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah, no... this predates Trauma Center by 17 freaking years.

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Makes the game as tough as possible. Patients die easier, surgery is harder, the deadlier diseases are more common, etc.

  • @azizabdul8914
    @azizabdul8914 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It's extra punishing when your head doctor is Luke Skywalker.

    • @Nafeels
      @Nafeels 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      More like a grumpy old Han Solo.

  • @tanynsansom4306
    @tanynsansom4306 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Surgeon simulator 1988

  • @Almanich94
    @Almanich94 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    5:22
    ...Is that Joseph Stalin? Well shit.

    • @comradegeneralvladimirpoot1313
      @comradegeneralvladimirpoot1313 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good thing he got a taste of his own medicine when it came to having a knife put threw his skull.

    • @mr_beezlebub3985
      @mr_beezlebub3985 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Leon Trotsky, you sure don't like Stalin. Which is understandable

  • @Chuckler127
    @Chuckler127 9 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    It would have been nice if you would have demonstrated what a successful surgery actually looks like.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I did, at 07:06 in the video! Granted, it wasn't a flawless operation, but it was successful. The dude just tells you "congrats on the surgery" and that's that, you move onto the next patient.

    • @Chuckler127
      @Chuckler127 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lazy Game Reviews Thanks for responding to me. Are you certain it was successful? Because at 06:55 it says "Oh no! We've lost the patient!" Or do you mean you succeeded at some other operation and just jumped straight to the "winning" screen?

    • @AkasagiPhan
      @AkasagiPhan 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Chuckler127 He meant 5:55

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Indeed it is. Expect to see more of it soonish.

  • @MoonlightStrider
    @MoonlightStrider 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, that hospital in that game is rather lenient on botched operations, "you fuck up, look at a blackboard for a few seconds and come back again"

  • @timtrainage
    @timtrainage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played this game once...
    Operated on every patient without any diagnosis...
    I think Toolworks needs a psychology simulator

  • @adambetz8363
    @adambetz8363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    LGR predicting the future at 2:09

  • @TMBGTransformer
    @TMBGTransformer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    dr. pepper is back

  • @thisoldmacintosh5795
    @thisoldmacintosh5795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Note to self: Don’t let Clint operate on you!

  • @ghostoflazlo
    @ghostoflazlo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Omg! This would today be called "ultimate limited platinum collectors edition" and cost 150$ ( season pass w/"nightmare mode" excluded)

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    You realize that only a few videos a year are on Sims expansions, right? The vast majority of the time it's other stuff that I cover.
    And actually, according to my analytics numbers from TH-cam, the largest number of those who watch my videos are 13-17 year old girls...

  • @DVAFP
    @DVAFP 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good review, have you played life & death 2?

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I reviewed Arena last year, look on my channel. Haven't done Daggerfall yet but I'll get to it someday.

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why, because I make videos featuring old games I must be copying him? Come on now, seriously?

  • @dantescanline
    @dantescanline 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sure you get a lot of requests, but i think you'd really enjoy Metal Mutant. It's truly bizarre looking and was an interesting attempt at a new type of action puzzle game. I played it on DOS but I'm assuming the Amiga version is better quality.

  • @MrBallswell
    @MrBallswell 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2:10 Francis
    "You'll be sorry Pee-Wee Herman!"

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not according to the stats I have. Seriously, most people either skipped or left the video entirely due to the intro. I got lots of emails all the time about how it was aggravating, or they heard the intro music and thought they were being Rick Roll'd. Nobody seemed to say anything positive about it when I used it, and now all of a sudden a few people want it back. I can't win, so I'm not even playing that whole "intro" game anymore.

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, but they just don't release stuff as often as I do. For instance Pat just released a new NES Punk review the other day, and JewWario is also on RWTV now with his You Can Play This series. But I'm one of the few that release something new every week. A lot of them stay pretty darned busy with other things, like running the site, working on The Video Game Years and all sorts of stuff behind the scenes.

  • @PeteJohnsMusic
    @PeteJohnsMusic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Surely “staph” room would have been a better misspelling?

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...that sounds freaking AWESOME, actually.

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    If anyone wants to see it, all they have to do is watch any of my older videos. The intros haven't magically disappeared from them or anything :)

  • @dapowerfulmastermind
    @dapowerfulmastermind 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:18 I spi a raspberry pi! would you, by chance, review that glorious little machine at some point?

  • @whatever9480
    @whatever9480 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played this as a child. So cool back then. Just wanna say I'm so sorry to the npc's who suffered so horribly at my juvenile whims

  • @NoeLPZC
    @NoeLPZC 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God, I just tried playing the DOS version of this game. Note to everyone: do NOT attempt surgery without a guide! Following a guide I made it all the way up to closing the patient, but I missed a few steps and gave them the wrong drug by accident. We lost 'em. I was so devastated.

  • @ZorotheGallade
    @ZorotheGallade 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:00 Must...resist...urge...to recreate scenes from The Naked Gun...

  • @n00biito
    @n00biito 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well facial hair growth differs for every male and not all types of beard looks good on all guys. I used to date an Italian guy that got really annoyed because he couldn't grow a proper beard. It would grow in small patches and some wouldn't fill in. Ofc I teased him about it often. Then I had Portuguese boyfriend who i made fun of because he was so hairy. He would literally grow stubs on his face hours after shaving. He looked like a skinny Santa in about 1,5 week without shaving.

  • @LGR
    @LGR  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use a composite to HDMI scaler and capture with an AVerMedia Game Broadcaster HD internal capture card.

  • @SevenDeMagnus
    @SevenDeMagnus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool looking Apple computer.

  • @zorkan111
    @zorkan111 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're talking about Life and Death 2- The Brain. You can play it through DosBox emulator and it's free to download on Abandonia :)

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nope, unfortunately it's not on GOG yet.

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    A parody of everything Microsoft. I'll have a video on it soonish.

  • @usernamunavailiable
    @usernamunavailiable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Comes with a mask… This game was ahead of the times.

  • @lokanientertainment6594
    @lokanientertainment6594 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Aha! I see it on your shelf: Whiplash! I'm dying for you to do a video on it--love your vids...

  • @TheChaosDragoness
    @TheChaosDragoness 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should review Life and Death 2 someday, I haven't seen may videos about that game.

  • @mieszczuch
    @mieszczuch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2:02 mask and latex gloves - now that's the game for 2020!

  • @cherryred6804
    @cherryred6804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We need a remake of this with mod support

  • @ckmNtA
    @ckmNtA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Odd for the Amiga not to be the best graphically!

  • @jonbourgoin182
    @jonbourgoin182 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:05 who would have thought that bit was foreshadowing our future in 2020

  • @LGR
    @LGR  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Certainly considered it, yes. They're underrated for sure.

  • @sethbramwell
    @sethbramwell 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOL I remember that game on DOS, I never had a successful surgery. This is why I am not a gamer of anything more advanced than Galaga. XD Great review!

  • @rosieholstein3233
    @rosieholstein3233 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:06
    oh sweet jesus, that is a scary sight, i feel like he is either about to remove my kidney or leave me in a ditch.

    • @Pommezul
      @Pommezul 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That will give me nightmares :P

  • @Pau_Pau9
    @Pau_Pau9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Time to visit thrift store to get a box for that sweet, sweet mask and gloves!!

  • @lbanting
    @lbanting 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved that game! there was also a Neuro surgery version too. spent a lot of hours of malpractice!

  • @MuttFitness
    @MuttFitness 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if the diskette still worked.

  • @ash2xx1
    @ash2xx1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There was a guy on 1,000 ways to die who tried to preform liposuction on a buddy with a shopvac in his garage.

  • @jmcieslak0
    @jmcieslak0 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What does Nightmare Mode entail?

    • @nightshademagia
      @nightshademagia 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      More problems

    • @Atlink
      @Atlink 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Lupus.

    • @homebody0089
      @homebody0089 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chicago/Detroit on full moon

  • @Th3Raz96
    @Th3Raz96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have fond memories of emulating this game back when I was like 10 years old, I had extreme difficulty finding the numbers for the pager thing, and actually managed to get someone (I believe I found them on some forum) who still had theirs to personally email it to me so that I could play the game. Good friggin times.

  • @skyrish
    @skyrish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2:04 Forshadowing the future.

  • @aziz_light
    @aziz_light 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After hours and hours playing this game, I'm convinced I could perform an appendectomy or a blood clot removal.
    Now as for life and death 2, hell I could never get past drilling out a piece of skull.
    Nice review.

  • @tyminor9366
    @tyminor9366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The MS-DOS version has the best scream

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Masks and gloves... Nailed it in 2020!

  • @ScoobyBaseball
    @ScoobyBaseball 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're awesome, Clint. Myself, and no doubt many others, certainly appreciate your videos & the work that goes into them. :)

  • @timg2727
    @timg2727 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember playing this in middle school, and I've been trying for years to remember what it was called. Good thing I found this video.

  • @Vizal
    @Vizal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, what's the nightmare mode about actually?

  • @RenegadeJade
    @RenegadeJade 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    DR THUNDER IS BACK

  • @gurufabbes1
    @gurufabbes1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Trauma Center!

  • @omgmono
    @omgmono 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mask could come in handy now

  • @Ladderthief1
    @Ladderthief1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr. Doctor Pepper report to the classroom.

  • @JeezaLou
    @JeezaLou 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "That'll teach him to eat beans." Hilarious dude. Well done!

  • @VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan
    @VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow I finished the dos version back in the day and I was never aware of the fact that you can change your signature.
    Have to replay that.
    Greetings

  • @JesseDylanMusic
    @JesseDylanMusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got this in a compilation boxed set with like Chessmaster and such, PC. Did anyone else have this? I can't even remember if it was on floppy or CD (the compilation), much less what else was on it. It is where I learned that almost any problem a person has can be traced to the appendix, though, which needs to be removed, NOW.

  • @herrabanani
    @herrabanani 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    why don't you take all your videos and divide them with 0! than you have an unlimited amount of youtube videos!

  • @FuzzyImages
    @FuzzyImages 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This games bullshit! I just watched you do a surgery, hell I watched walkthroughs on this, but no matter what I do every time I finish the first incision, the surgery ends with me having failed.

  • @rebeccamercado5658
    @rebeccamercado5658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoyed this game as a kid. Hilarious commentary btw.

  • @VoidHalo
    @VoidHalo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could never do the appendectomy right. I'd always end up nicking the cecum and spilling liquid shit all over my patient's insides. And no matter how well I try to clean it all up, then pump the patient full of antibiotics, I still get shit for it and the surgery's considered a failure.

  • @alexkuhn5078
    @alexkuhn5078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:01
    epic forshadowing

  • @Real1Gaming
    @Real1Gaming 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reminds me of Trauma Center and Trauma Team. A bit more modern take on the uhhh... Hospital genre.

  • @crimsoneternity
    @crimsoneternity 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy cow! I remember my older brothers playing this back in the day. Good times. :D

  • @dassrull
    @dassrull 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hmmm.. i always thought that the Amiga-version was the best, but this one is actually better. Great video, got a good laugh with the signature :D