Resistance Podcast 95: Errors of Sedevacantist in Ecclesiology w/ John Salza
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I would like to see a video with you both and Br Peter Diamond
I believe that now is the time to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. For those who groan under the Francis papacy remember this: Pope Francis will pass. May the LORD strengthen us all. May we love one another despite our disagreements.
Indeed. The idea that the one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church cannot survive one bad Pope is a fallacy, since it has already survived several (Honorius, Benedict IX, Alexander VI), many of them far worse than Francis.
@@njdutoit agreed family
@@njdutoit You think Honorius is far worse than Francis? You think this is only a problem with Francis? John Paul II did the same things as Francis. No, the problem is Vatican II and the Novus Ordo worship service.
@@njdutoit How long can the Church go without the Pope? and what is the document that indicates this?
R&R nonsense-the way Roncalli passed to Montini who passed to JP1 of suspect dispositon to Wojo who passed to Ratzinger who passed to Bergoglio?
I attend the SSPV, and honestly, I am an "agnostic" (colloquially speaking) on the topic. I would like to think that ABSOLUTELY Francis and the Bishops are 1,000% legit. However, we then see what they have done and what they have permitted, and I just shake my head and wonder if they even have the Faith.
It is not that I disagree with any of Mr Salza's arguments, because I don't. I admit, however, that I do not have the answers, theological training, nor authority to absolutely say one way or another. It is just that I cannot in good conscience attend my local NO, and Fr J does not impose a privately held opinion as "dogma," precisely because the society does NOT have the authority to bind me.
All I know is that we live in a messed up situation. Personally, I am convinced it is so bad that I "think" it will take Divine Intervention to fix. I just hope ALL SIDES recognize it when it happens.
Peace. 😁
Start attending the SSPX or FSSP man, it's better to be safe than sorry. If you can't, move where there is an SSPX chapel. If you are agnostic on this issue, it's worth playing a "Paschal's Wager" here. If it's 50/50 the consequences for being a sedevacantist and being wrong are infinitely worse than if you were a Catholic in communion with Rome and were wrong. God won't punish you for not figuring out this complex topic, but he will punish you for not recognizing the true Church led by his Vicar.
@@murrax7639 You may resist the supreme pontiff if he threatens the faith. The Catholic church is the true church and we have yet another Pope of questionable integrity which is obvious. It's not like this hasn't happened before. We have history to know that whether Francis is a real Pope or not, he is breaking with the traditional faith with gross ecumenism, which is Freemasonry (equality of religion) and blasphemy.
It should be obvious that Christ called out the Pharisees and the temple soon fell. Were the children of Israel spared for sticking to the Sanhedron?
You go to Father Jenkins? Wonderful!
@@bankerborsch This is not a question of resisting the supreme pontiff. Do you really think I would suggest going to the SSPX if I was a papaloter worshipping at the Pope's feet? The SSPX created the recognize and resist position. But in order for the position to work, you still need to *recognize* the Pope and then resist him. This is a question of there being too big of a risk to make a modernist judgement that the pope isn't actually the pope when you could just be prudent, go to the SSPX and resist the pontiff when he is in error.
@@murrax7639 Well I never recommended stay at home (vatican)Catholic and what you said is surprisingly similar to what I said. You wish to receive the Eucharist and good on you.
Why don’t you have a debate on this topic with brother Peter Dimond Mr Salsa? I will be very excited to watch it.
I enjoyed this program very much. Very informative and charitable. I’m looking forward to learning and hearing more in the future.
Thank you very much John and Father.
I agree he is so well spoken and his homilies are just so well researched. smarts and piety what a combination!
so i'm no expert, but I'm 28 min in and so far the two arguments about visibility of the church and infallibility have not been the least bit fairly presented. But more importantly, the starting point should be this question: was there a substantial change to the teachings and liturgy after Vatican II? This is what the whole thing hinges on. If you can show the answer to that question is no, then I believe every Sed will immediately accept that the Chair is not empty
. So let's see if you get to that question
What are the supposed changes that are against the teachings of the church? Have you read all the documents of the Vatican Council II?
John Salza God bless you! You are a great theologian !!!
Whatever happened to his website scripturecatholic.com? It used to be an excellent website.
He seems to have left the spotlight a bit hasn't he?
God Bless the SSPX! My faith has increased in the last two years thanks to them!
Salza now disagrees with you-he is Bogus Ordo.
Is it possible that Pope Francis,in forsaking the title ‘Vicar of Christ’ may be only the Bishop of Rome and Pope Benedict the true Vicar of Christ and holds the keys of ‘Peter’? I realise this has never happened in Church History but Benedict still dresses and gives blessings and appears as though spiritually he remains the Holy Father . I would appreciate your clarification on this issue please. God bless 🙏
How long can the Church go without the Pope? and what is the document that indicates this?
17:46 I testify to this
How long can the Church go without the Pope? and what is the document that indicates this?
Ok to everything. But one question: who gave the pope and bishops the mission of doing what in fact they are doing. That comes from JC himself or Holy Spirit??? Just common sense. And you know what i'm refering. That pachamama thing and thousand of examples. Now they have got the MISSION, da command to do whatever?
What i'm supposr to think: oh no... those are just abuses? When my understanfing tells me that what I see is an everyday normal basis.
By the way, I am not a sede v fan or attender. I do think that the Fatima argument it is quite desisive.
Finally, pardon my writing, eng it is not my birth language. GOD bless ya.
What is the Fatima argument?
I love this priest & would love to know where I can listen to more (I listen while truck driving).
Here is a website where you can listen to him more. I think you can find the podcast on Apple if you search up reginaprophetarum or Sensus Fidelium as well. But I will say that you will find his associate pastor upload more than him.
reginaprophetarum.org/#/
I believe it is Father Simplicius and his sermons can be found here: svfonline.org/?St%20Vincent%20Ferrer%20Foundation&EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_12_24_05_14&
What is his name?
The Passion of the Church is sanctifying the MYSTICAL BODY OF CHRIST.
one day many years from now, we will hear this goofy countdown music by some unusual event, and remember all the times we waited for youtube premieres...
The contrast between terminator and Gregorian chant is so ridiculous I love it
I wish John Salza would do weekly some videos with Q and A not just on sedevantism but also other issues that we encounter in today’s unprecedented crisis in the Church and the world ....!
Sorry but there are sede's who believe there are still Bishops like Sanborn, this might be needed in your defense.
Thanks for this one in particular. I’ve been flirting w sed. territory since the Amazon synod.
@Totus Tuus ummm from the writer of that article:
"Rather, “truth” is whatever advances the desired narrative. Pope Francis is a bad man, a terrible pope, and a heretic (ALL ASSERTIONS WITH WHICH I AGREE); therefore, anything that paints him in the worst possible light must necessarily be “true,”"
Don't do it. We deserve the chastisement
@Totus Tuus he didn't worship a pagan goddess in Vatican square?
That priest is one of my favorite priests...➕➕➕
The Dimond brothers made a video about this. In it, they had a large number of objections about this book and the authors. Will those be addressed in this?
Probably not.
John Salza is working on a multi volume book set that hopefully will address their objections.
@Der Frosch-Prinz Aus Bayern I mean that's fine, but they provided a rebuttal to the book and the arguments. They even presented an argument against their theivery and scamming, which is absent from the newest attacks on the Dimond brothers by Salza and his coauthor. So it's strange that you would use those words when Salza seems to have retracted them? On what basis do you call them thieves and scammers?
Furthermore, what does that have to do with their criticisms? Criticism is true or false regardless of the source. It can either be dealt with or ignored. But attacking the person is weak.
@@VACatholic Salza and Siscoe have responded to a lot of their post-publication criticisms on their website: www.trueorfalsepope.com/
The Dimond Brothers are Feeneyites who believe Baptism of Blood and Baptism of Desire are heretical. As such, you shouldn't give them much credence, as they misunderstand and mistreat the Magisterium just as the SSPX and FSSP do, albeit from a different direction: introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2018/01/the-source-of-problem.html?m=1
ok so at 1 hr 4min 28 sec he gives about 20 seconds to the central question of the entire discussion - did vatican II make a substantial change to the teachings and liturgy. he mentions that vatican II did not provide specific definitions for ecumanism, religious liberty, collegiality etc. and that means the pope did not intend to define anything, and so therefore, what, vatican II doesn't matter then? I hope you'll bring in a Sed priest or bishop and have a real discussion about this. In the meantime i ask, what if there was a substantial change? How do you reconcile it/
Great points Naomi
Send this to Jerry Matatics somebody?? and Taylor Marshall?
Dr. Marshall is not a sedevacantist. Not necessarily defending his positions as a whole, but I feel that should be clarified.
@@dominusvobiscum333 good point, still a bit wacko...there are nuts on the RIGHT too
This was a good discussion. However I do think that on some points they are beating up a straw men. Like claiming SVs don't have hope. I think that's ridiculous. They might be wrong but they are clearly holding on to a hope of a restoration.
I pray for our Pope. I want him to be holy and may God correct his bad ideas. But I have watched a video of V. Fulton Sheen and he explained very well when the pope his statements are infallible and are just like the guest has said. I read holy scripture and I believe in the promises of our Lord. So, I trust him and do not worry. We have to pray.
muchas gracias
I do not believe it is right to attend SSPX Masses according my experience at the beginning of the pandemic. I believe there are real consequences of sin involved.
I also watched the video of Cardinal Burke from 2017 and I think this clarified it
Does anybody know the name of the gregorian chant at the opening?
Ave Maris Stella