No. Allah has the attribute of mercy. Allahs attributes are not dependent upon anything. And yet Allah can not give mercy if creation does not exist. That makes his Attribute of mercy dependent upon created things because without creation Allah is unable to be merciful. He may have the potential to be merciful but he only has the ability to be merciful if something else exists. You can't get out of this problem mate.
@@debunking_izlam You on the day of judgement: God I know you always have your attributes of mercy but to show mercy you have to show it to someone. There you go now take to me to paradise 💀.
@@adamherman460and apparently ur God let Moses slaughter little boys and take little girls for himself and let Lot sleep with his daughters and let Solomon have 300 wives and concubines 😂 don’t throw stones in a glass house.
He's conflating 2 different concepts: 1. The angels with magic as a test from Allah: In this case, people had the free will and ability to resist using the magic for temporary gain. The test was about their moral choice, not about acquiring new skills. 2. Acquiring a skill to pass a test (the Calculus example): A person must put in effort-using their time, intellect, and hard work-to learn the material. The test here is about resisting distractions and dedicating oneself to gaining the necessary knowledge. In both situations, those being tested understand the consequences. In the first example, the test is resisting the temptation to misuse magic, and in the second, it's about overcoming distractions to prepare for the exam. There's no contradiction. It's not about lacking ability but failing to use one's free will or effort. Christians need to work on constructing valid arguments.
@@debunking_izlami will let me destroy the first argument right the way about aisha here is aisha talking about her marriage with prophet Mohammad and if you are wondering about her age its called precocious puberty Sahih al-Bukhari 6971 Narrated `Aisha: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "It is essential to have the consent of a virgin (for the marriage). I said, "A virgin feels shy." The Prophet; said, "Her silence means her consent....
@@debunking_izlamand can you explain this? Numbers 31:17-18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves
Yeah the way he is phrasing it makes it seem as if the angels came to the people and gave them a test that humans can’t pass. Like for example shoot this arrow from India to Japan and hit this target with pin point accuracy or you go to hellfire and then forced all the people to line up for the test. I think the jahil realized he doesn’t have a contradiction but he just doesn’t want to give up any ground. For the sake of ignorance not looking for the truth. Honestly I feel kind of bad because he wants to be like his superior GL but he lacks the finesse to pull off the rhetoric.
@@irunsauce6437 me friend, faith in God is not GAME you Christian play! Blind faith without question and doubts is EMPTY! But you know more about this! BUT when Muslim begin explaining your misunderstanding points about Islam, what will you do!?!? Sit and listen to all or play games and try interrupt all time just like satan in flesh?!?
@@irunsauce6437 Okey, lets play!! Hadith: -Sahih al-Bukhari: Approximately 7,275 hadiths (including repetitions). Without repetitions: about 2,600 unique hadiths. - Sahih Muslim: Around 9,200 hadiths (including repetitions). Without repetitions: about 4,000 unique hadiths. - Sunan Abu Dawood: Approximately 4,800 hadiths. - Jami` at-Tirmidhi: Around 3,956 hadiths. - Sunan an-Nasa'i: About 5,764 hadiths. - Sunan Ibn Majah: Approximately 4,000 hadiths. -------------------- In addition to the Quran, Islam has a variety of texts that play important roles in religious teachings, law, and scholarship. 1. Hadith Collections 👆👆👆, 2. Fiqh (Islamic Jurisprudence) Books, 3. Tafsir (Quranic Exegesis), 4. Aqidah (Creed) Texts, 5. Sira (Biographies of the Prophet), 6. History and Theology Books! ------------------------- So!! Now tell me or give the name of your TH-camrs or TikTokers which is completely read at least, well half of those books and prove that Islam is evil and wrong!!! Name the channel of this person!
@@SanjarOtakhanov bro, this video should teach u, not to even bother with those kind of christians, its just a waste of energy, they will nevrr get an point, an ignorant person will be even ignorant if allahs shows him self personally, so where is the point in u debating him, dont do it, u know its a ignorant hater
Did watch his videos your whole religion is a lie very simple gospel of john AD 100 and islam AD 635 So how jesus is the muslim than debate of muslim is a waste of time because history will do the whole work 😂😂
@@adamherman460 the earliest manuscripts you have are ~400 A.D which is way after Jesus and it's in Konaic greek, not Aramaic. And by your logic Jesus came after Moses 1000 year later, does that mean the Torah is false?
This guy's logic is genuinely insane. The interpretation is simple. Allah SWT will not test you with something beyond your ability. For example, if on a scale of 1-100, my ability is at 50, Allah SWT will NOT test me with something at a level above 50. However, he WILL test me with something the same or below bc that is in my ability. He is conflating failing with never being able to do it. He lacks the basic common sense to see how flawed this mindset is. He is essentially saying "I failed once therefore I will never be able to do it" This is absurd. And in the case of the people in the verse, they were 1. Explicity said this was a test from God and to stay away 2. Could reject if they wanted to And don't even get me started on the calc test example he provided. It literally disproves his position lol. Edit: LOL THIS GUY STARTED ARGUING LIKE AN ATHIEST IN THE END
@@adamherman460 He doesn’t lol. His rhetoric is horrible, his logic is worse, and his understanding on the Islamic position is genuinely baffling. He regurgitates what his father DogLogic says, but somehow he’s worse💀
Erm... this 16 year old is the one challenging people (not me though) to get followers. But hey - what is the issue with a 16 year old? According to Islamic law he is a fully developed adult...hell, according to you an 8 year old was a fully developed adult!!! So now you admit 16 year olds are kids??? Ha ha. The double standards of Islam!
@@debunking_izlam where does islam consider a specific age to determine if one is mature enough or not? According to my knowledge it depends on many factors and as such according to islam there is a chance for a 10 year old to be more mature than a 15 year old. No double standards here.
@@Adnan-gz4zk Cool. Would you like to discuss this in a live stream? Invite every Moslem you know. I'll provide all the evidence for every question you have and I'll educate you on the Shariah regarding when it is ok to have intercourse with a child. Hint hint....it is ok to have intercourse with a prepubescent child under Islamic law and NO....10 year olds are NEVER physically mature. You say this because Islamic law thinks they can be. Not that maturity is actually needed for consummation anyway. Also. Remember that Islam uses the lunar calendar. Aisha was actually 8 years 8 months when Mohammed.....
@@debunking_izlam no, the Quran lists mental age as a factor for adulthood, as well as those in authority from among you being the ones to specifically when exactly it is. He would be an adult in religious responsibility, but not one in terms of maturity when talking in the sense of debates. As much as you would you like to cope, you're man is still beefing with someone much younger than him. And I never called him a kid. Also "Erm... Actually🤓☝️"
@@Servant.Of.TheMost-Merciful Erm NO. The Koran DEFINITELY does not say a girl must be mentally mature to be married and to have intercourse. Mental and physical maturity or even PUBERTY is not required for marriage or intercourse in Islam. So. I challenge you to a live debate RIGHT NOW and let your fellow Moslems see how your anti Islamic diddydeen arguments get destroyed. I will give you Islam . Lets see what you have got. Are you ready? You can bring diddy deen if he has the ballz?
Unfortunately I think of this verse every time No Logic talks. Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur)
It’s interesting because to hold the position he’s trying to force into the conversation, he has to presuppose hard determinism. Which entails an unjust God. If he believes the action that happens is the action that was bound to happen, then even his own paradigm falls apart, because how could God be just if he punishes people for actions they had no choice in making? How can there be a test with only one possible answer? All of a sudden he has no standard to critique from.
My brother, you are wonderful. Of course, Only God know each one of us ability and limit. Who succeeds and who fails are only choices. God will not create a test that no one can pass or that is impossible to pass. It is simple and beautiful, God shows us his wisdom and mercy.
They've had 1400 years to come up with a good argument and this is the best they can come up with? Nothing theological like for millennia Jews promoted monthiesm and now god is telling them he's one of three? No calling out nonsensical bs like the trinity makes no sense No real contradictions like how did Judas die They lost, the moment our religion called them out
So by his logic they don’t have the ability to obey God because they decided to disobey God? Does he know us having the urge to do a sin doesn’t mean we don’t have the ability to resist the urge? Like he is mentally challenged or what?
9:55 this Christian himself said that those who were tested "gave in to their urges", so they did choose to fail the test after being told it was a test. Christians are just literal walking contradictions .
What a clown lol, the "ability to say no" they had it all the time, what took away their ability to say no or yes? They had it all along but choose to disbelieve, it's very simple, but here we have clown logic 🤡
@@nightnight3715 Well he clearly is doing live debates. However, as evidenced by him deleting my open challenge to him I gather he is scared. That's fine. It is just dissapointing. I debated deenresponds on instagram and honestly, he was embarrassing. He ended up deleting his video that we debated and ran. I mean...RAN. I am not active much but I'll debate this youtuber and Deen at the same time on Islam and its child marriage issue, Islam and the prepubescent status of Aisha, Islam and it's racism issue or we can debate the Korans biological and flat earth errors. Whatever they want.
@@debunking_izlam Who are you? Why should anyone debate you? What do you believe in? The earth doesn't revolve around you, if he chooses to not debate you, then why are you begging for his attention? Yes you can say he is running away, no one asked, if he runs, then he runs Keep giving him views and post more comments, it will help boost the algorithm and let more people discover his channel You commenting under his channel begging for attention shows your level and why he is not taking you seriously
What kind of stupid logic is that, Allah won't test a person beyond what they can bear, that test could be ilness, loss of job etc. anything. There's difference to a choice of test you are able to choose, yes or no, and a situation which happens to you beyond your control which Allah ensures you are able to handle! Does not mean he won't test them, life is a test to see who follows Satan or Allah. This dude is trying to say Allah made us like Angels, who can only do what they are commanded and nothing else!
There is so much hate and envy in this community it’s not how Jesus (God) would’ve handled things he came of this earth holy and perfect and he spread love throughout everywhere and as children of God we should be Christ like. You have to believe the Jesus is the son of God and confess you’re a sinner that needs a saviour and ask Jesus into your heart. Please pray and turn of your sins
So why did the so God sent Jesus pubh to "die for the sins" at the end and not just send Jesus pbuh right after Adam? Why would he make that a means of salvation but have 1000's of years pass before he sent him?
I believe He did that to prepare the world first through scripture, and to work in the peoples hearts before He sent Him. I really hope this helps but if it doesn't I'm sorry and I hope you have a good day
@@hannalieu4654 that still makes no sense why not just send Jesus " to die for the sins" as you believe right at the start no one would have to suffer no one would go to hell? It's an illogical belief no one dies for anyone's sins.
He's the one playing with word games though. It says the ability to pass the test not the probability that you will win no matter what just like what we consider this dunya as a test, we can choose to party, drink and do all kinds of things or to pray to Allah. So, in the end it's all on you because it is a TEST so of course there's a challenge and you have the ABILITY to do so.
Can i have Your thoughts on 3:7 contradiction that says some verses are unclear and nobody knows their meaning expect Allah while many verses say all verses are clear i am a muslim i am trying to debate my agnostic freind so perhaps he will be mindful
God logic is arguing for electism, that some people are predisposed to pass easy, it's manichean dogma of electi but also dogma of grace, so that you can't pass anything without a help of God so that you need christ to help you pass, you can't pass bc human is inherently si full in nature, you just don't understand each other, you both go into a loop bc of theological thinking differences.
😂 this guy is hilarious. Did he just try to say ability and having the ability to do something is different 😂 no logic 2.0 is another funny dancing jester
He's saying that the ability and being able to is different. For example having the ability to do smt means to have the skills and wtv for it, while being ABLE to is to have the skills for it AND being able to carry out the action in that moment
@ 😂😂😂😂😂 found another ignoramus. You just repeated yourself. Having the ability to do something is the same as having the ability to carry something out you genius. 😆 like seriously u guys need help. If you are able to do something then you also have the ability to do that thing lmaooo.
@ like the fact ur even defending this point by doubling down on the absolute failure of logic is outstanding. Lemme explain this to you easily cause u Christian’s can never admit ur wrong. If God send down a test like magic to the world, and people have the ability to not practice that magic, that means that indeed the people are able to endure that test and reject magic, since they have the ability to do so. If they were not able or did not have the ability, your statement would make sense, but that’s not the case here. So ur ganna have to explain to me how u don’t get this.
Allah said in the Holy Quran It is not permissible to talk about Islam and religion without knowledge. الإسراء - الآية 36 وَلَا تَقْفُ مَا لَيْسَ لَكَ بِهِ عِلْمٌ ۚ إِنَّ السَّمْعَ وَالْبَصَرَ وَالْفُؤَادَ كُلُّ أُولَٰئِكَ كَانَ عَنْهُ مَسْئُولًا (17:36) And follow not (O man., say not, speak not or do not or witness not, etc.) that of which you have no knowledge. And do not pursue that of which you have no knowledge. Indeed, the hearing, the sight and the heart - about all those [one] will be questioned. الأعراف - الآية 33 قُلْ إِنَّمَا حَرَّمَ رَبِّيَ الْفَوَاحِشَ مَا ظَهَرَ مِنْهَا وَمَا بَطَنَ وَالْإِثْمَ وَالْبَغْيَ بِغَيْرِ الْحَقِّ وَأَن تُشْرِكُوا بِاللَّهِ مَا لَمْ يُنَزِّلْ بِهِ سُلْطَانًا وَأَن تَقُولُوا عَلَى اللَّهِ مَا لَا تَعْلَمُونَ (7:33) Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to Allah, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about Allah of which ye have no knowledge. الحج - الآية 3وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يُجَادِلُ فِي اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَيَتَّبِعُ كُلَّ شَيْطَانٍ مَّرِيدٍ (22:3) And among men there is he who disputes and argue about Allah without knowledge and follows every rebellious Shaitan; الحج - الآية 8وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يُجَادِلُ فِي اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَلَا هُدًى وَلَا كِتَابٍ مُّنِيرٍ (22:8) And among men there is he who disputes and argues about Allah without knowledge and without guidance and without an illuminating book, لقمان - الآية 20 أَلَمْ تَرَوْا أَنَّ اللَّهَ سَخَّرَ لَكُم مَّا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَأَسْبَغَ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعَمَهُ ظَاهِرَةً وَبَاطِنَةً ۗ وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يُجَادِلُ فِي اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَلَا هُدًى وَلَا كِتَابٍ مُّنِيرٍ (31:20) Do you not see that Allah has made subject to you whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth and amply bestowed upon you His favors, [both] apparent and unapparent? But of the people is he who disputes and argue about Allah without knowledge or guidance or an enlightening Book [from Him].
How did you destroyed him, i think it was otherwise...if you don't have the will power to do something and allah puts you a test then that would mean that you are being setup to fail...allah also says in the quran that he is the one who guides and misguides and it is allah who seals the heart if disbelievers....
but they have the will power to agree or disagree 😂they choose not to plus god guide the people that choose guidance and misguides the people that choose the opposite it's about choice unless you don't believe free will
@@KallKall-b5h "Allah doesn't test you with something you can't fail" Implies that you aren't capable of failing the test. No matter how hard you try, you just can't fail. The modal verb "can't" posits it is an impossibility.
@@TheNeoTemplars that's another straw man where's can't or fail in the verse? 2:286 Allah does not charge a soul except [with that within] its capacity. It will have [the consequence of] what [good] it has gained, and it will bear [the consequence of] what [evil] it has earned.
Ok Doglogic, here is the same argument fit on you, let's see how? Allah created us all of us including me and you (Doglogic) for a test and the test is that " You have to believe that there is none worthy of worship and Muhammad SAW is His final prophet", now those who believe in this it means they pass the test and those who reject this ,it means they failed the test. Now Mr Doglogic you have the ability to believe in the above and pass in the test or disbelieve (which you are already doing) and fail the test.
@@aaa-dl9rt Easy. Allahs attribute of mercy is dependent upon creation. Without creation Allah cannot give mercy. If you disagree then provide me just one example of Allah giving mercy that did not require the existence of something else.
@@Adnan-gz4zk So you can't give me an example of Allah displaying his attribute of mercy without needing creation to do it. So you agree that Allah is contingent? Point proven. I will not ask you to explain what is the thing that makes Allahs foot different to his hand. As for this topic. To be honest - I did not watch the video. I'll happily watch it and if I think there is a point being made I'll comment however, if the Moslem wins the debate I have no problem with that. I have never claimed critics of Islam are right on everything or that Moslems are wrong on everything.
Debunked: Allah chooses who he will guide and who he won't so it is not our choice. Even in Islam, Allah confused and misguided the Christians to believe in the resurrection.
When talking to an abdul: Q. How many qurans? A. One quran Q. Is hafs quran a quran? A. Yes Q. Is warsh quran a quran? A. Yes Q. Is doori quran a quran? A. Yes Q. How many qurans? A. One quran Q. Are all qurans around the world same? A. Yes Q. Do the Sana manuscript and Birmingham manuscript have variants? A. Yes Q. Are qurans preserved word for word, letter for letter? A. Yes Q. In sura 37.12, one quran says "you", another "I"? A. They are different accents Q. How many ahrufs did muhamad recite? A. 7 Q. How many ahrufs did uthman destroy? A. 6 Q. How many ahrufs today? A. 7 Q. How many qiraats did muhamad recite? A. None Q. How many qiraats today? A. 10, 15, 20, 50 Q. Is Bible preserved? A. No Q. Is muhamad prophesied in the Bible? A. Yes Q. Did muhamad marry a child? A. No Q. How old was aisha? A. 6 Typical illetrate Muslims following illiterate Messenger prophet Muhammad pubh (police be upon him)😂
@@Muhammed-l1k yes but the heart is deceitful and the eyes are easily blinded by lies because we often time limit a all powerful and knowing God. Most people on this channel do anyways, however, that statement of yours had absolutely nothing to do with what I said. By definition, that’s not lying to anybody or anything.
@@christianserrano5130 Crazy how you talk about deceit but you are being one of the worst here. Surely you have enough mental capacity to understand he referred to you not being honest with what you said, anyone thinking this guy's argument is right in any way needs to work on their critical thinking skills. You're just a liar though in this case, which is worse than being ignorant btw
Man these Christian apologist are just trolling now. Next argument will be oh look god created heaven and earth but what about the ozone layer
Im imagining some disbeliever reading this and going "thats a solid point" 😂
Ozone is a part of the earth lol 😂
And it is referred in the Qur'an, as the protective shield over the earth.
Lol
This is one of the worst arguments I’ve ever heard. Christians are running out of ideas
They ran out long long ago
brother you are well learned and may allah continue to bless you and grow in wisdom
He can't say he is wrong because he can't stand getting humbled by a kid 😂😭
For example, I have the ability to not lie but I choose to lie.
No. Allah has the attribute of mercy. Allahs attributes are not dependent upon anything. And yet Allah can not give mercy if creation does not exist. That makes his Attribute of mercy dependent upon created things because without creation Allah is unable to be merciful. He may have the potential to be merciful but he only has the ability to be merciful if something else exists. You can't get out of this problem mate.
@@debunking_izlam You on the day of judgement: God I know you always have your attributes of mercy but to show mercy you have to show it to someone. There you go now take to me to paradise 💀.
he didnt show mercy when he let Muhammad married nine year 9
@@adamherman460Why did your god allow Isaac to marry 3 year-old Rebecca?
@@adamherman460and apparently ur God let Moses slaughter little boys and take little girls for himself and let Lot sleep with his daughters and let Solomon have 300 wives and concubines 😂 don’t throw stones in a glass house.
He's conflating 2 different concepts:
1. The angels with magic as a test from Allah: In this case, people had the free will and ability to resist using the magic for temporary gain. The test was about their moral choice, not about acquiring new skills.
2. Acquiring a skill to pass a test (the Calculus example): A person must put in effort-using their time, intellect, and hard work-to learn the material. The test here is about resisting distractions and dedicating oneself to gaining the necessary knowledge.
In both situations, those being tested understand the consequences. In the first example, the test is resisting the temptation to misuse magic, and in the second, it's about overcoming distractions to prepare for the exam.
There's no contradiction. It's not about lacking ability but failing to use one's free will or effort. Christians need to work on constructing valid arguments.
Ah ha. Here is another one who ran from a debate on his claims about Aisha pubescence and Allahs attributes! Offer of a debate i still there.
@@debunking_izlami will let me destroy the first argument right the way about aisha
here is aisha talking about her marriage with prophet Mohammad
and if you are wondering about her age its called precocious puberty
Sahih al-Bukhari 6971
Narrated `Aisha:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "It is essential to have the consent of a virgin (for the marriage). I said, "A virgin feels shy." The Prophet; said, "Her silence means her consent....
@@debunking_izlamand can you explain this?
Numbers 31:17-18
But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves
@@Burger-2.0-iYou won't get an answer from this loser. He gone.
Yeah the way he is phrasing it makes it seem as if the angels came to the people and gave them a test that humans can’t pass. Like for example shoot this arrow from India to Japan and hit this target with pin point accuracy or you go to hellfire and then forced all the people to line up for the test.
I think the jahil realized he doesn’t have a contradiction but he just doesn’t want to give up any ground. For the sake of ignorance not looking for the truth. Honestly I feel kind of bad because he wants to be like his superior GL but he lacks the finesse to pull off the rhetoric.
He can't Honestly think that was a good argument 😂
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when Christians begin loosing, they just change topic, turn to another points! No logical reason at all!
Good one brother!
You mean muslims not christians???
@@irunsauce6437 me friend, faith in God is not GAME you Christian play! Blind faith without question and doubts is EMPTY! But you know more about this!
BUT when Muslim begin explaining your misunderstanding points about Islam, what will you do!?!? Sit and listen to all or play games and try interrupt all time just like satan in flesh?!?
@@SanjarOtakhanov are you sure about that
@@irunsauce6437 Okey, lets play!!
Hadith: -Sahih al-Bukhari: Approximately 7,275 hadiths (including repetitions).
Without repetitions: about 2,600 unique hadiths.
- Sahih Muslim: Around 9,200 hadiths (including repetitions). Without repetitions: about 4,000 unique hadiths.
- Sunan Abu Dawood: Approximately 4,800 hadiths.
- Jami` at-Tirmidhi: Around 3,956 hadiths.
- Sunan an-Nasa'i: About 5,764 hadiths.
- Sunan Ibn Majah: Approximately 4,000 hadiths.
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In addition to the Quran, Islam has a variety of texts that play important roles in religious teachings, law, and scholarship.
1. Hadith Collections 👆👆👆, 2. Fiqh (Islamic Jurisprudence) Books, 3. Tafsir (Quranic Exegesis), 4. Aqidah (Creed) Texts, 5. Sira (Biographies of the Prophet), 6. History and Theology Books!
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So!! Now tell me or give the name of your TH-camrs or TikTokers which is completely read at least, well half of those books and prove that Islam is evil and wrong!!! Name the channel of this person!
@@SanjarOtakhanov bro, this video should teach u, not to even bother with those kind of christians, its just a waste of energy, they will nevrr get an point, an ignorant person will be even ignorant if allahs shows him self personally, so where is the point in u debating him, dont do it, u know its a ignorant hater
Doglogic’s side chick fails again 🤣🤣
coward
Did watch his videos your whole religion is a lie very simple gospel of john AD 100 and islam AD 635
So how jesus is the muslim than debate of muslim is a waste of time because history will do the whole work 😂😂
@@adamherman460 is this really an argument?🤦🏻, using that same logic the gospels came way after the Torah, so now your religion is also false…
@@goldrush6071yes it is
@@adamherman460 the earliest manuscripts you have are ~400 A.D which is way after Jesus and it's in Konaic greek, not Aramaic.
And by your logic Jesus came after Moses 1000 year later, does that mean the Torah is false?
I thought dog logic was stupid, but this 2nd version proved me wrong. It’s like a new Bible 😂
@@1sosukeaizen1 Even a dog has more Logic than this clown
This guy's logic is genuinely insane. The interpretation is simple. Allah SWT will not test you with something beyond your ability. For example, if on a scale of 1-100, my ability is at 50, Allah SWT will NOT test me with something at a level above 50. However, he WILL test me with something the same or below bc that is in my ability. He is conflating failing with never being able to do it. He lacks the basic common sense to see how flawed this mindset is. He is essentially saying "I failed once therefore I will never be able to do it" This is absurd.
And in the case of the people in the verse, they were
1. Explicity said this was a test from God and to stay away
2. Could reject if they wanted to
And don't even get me started on the calc test example he provided. It literally disproves his position lol.
Edit: LOL THIS GUY STARTED ARGUING LIKE AN ATHIEST IN THE END
He destroy more muslims in the debate than your brain cells
@@adamherman460 He doesn’t lol. His rhetoric is horrible, his logic is worse, and his understanding on the Islamic position is genuinely baffling. He regurgitates what his father DogLogic says, but somehow he’s worse💀
@@adamherman460 And your mother, correct?
@@adamherman460he never has won a debate in his entire life keep coping and trying to make ur own victory
@@strictlypineapple9308children satan hate the truth
The problem with this pepole they think they are smart
Is this grown ass man beefing with a 16 yo??
Erm... this 16 year old is the one challenging people (not me though) to get followers. But hey - what is the issue with a 16 year old? According to Islamic law he is a fully developed adult...hell, according to you an 8 year old was a fully developed adult!!! So now you admit 16 year olds are kids??? Ha ha. The double standards of Islam!
@@debunking_izlam where does islam consider a specific age to determine if one is mature enough or not?
According to my knowledge it depends on many factors and as such according to islam there is a chance for a 10 year old to be more mature than a 15 year old. No double standards here.
@@Adnan-gz4zk Cool. Would you like to discuss this in a live stream? Invite every Moslem you know. I'll provide all the evidence for every question you have and I'll educate you on the Shariah regarding when it is ok to have intercourse with a child. Hint hint....it is ok to have intercourse with a prepubescent child under Islamic law and NO....10 year olds are NEVER physically mature. You say this because Islamic law thinks they can be. Not that maturity is actually needed for consummation anyway. Also. Remember that Islam uses the lunar calendar. Aisha was actually 8 years 8 months when Mohammed.....
@@debunking_izlam no, the Quran lists mental age as a factor for adulthood, as well as those in authority from among you being the ones to specifically when exactly it is. He would be an adult in religious responsibility, but not one in terms of maturity when talking in the sense of debates. As much as you would you like to cope, you're man is still beefing with someone much younger than him. And I never called him a kid.
Also "Erm... Actually🤓☝️"
@@Servant.Of.TheMost-Merciful Erm NO. The Koran DEFINITELY does not say a girl must be mentally mature to be married and to have intercourse. Mental and physical maturity or even PUBERTY is not required for marriage or intercourse in Islam. So. I challenge you to a live debate RIGHT NOW and let your fellow Moslems see how your anti Islamic diddydeen arguments get destroyed. I will give you Islam . Lets see what you have got. Are you ready? You can bring diddy deen if he has the ballz?
Unfortunately I think of this verse every time No Logic talks.
Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur)
Masha-ALLAH brother, I just watched this video of yours, and SoubhanALLAH, you've had a lot Sabr with this guy. May ALLAH bless you.
If the word DUMB was actually a person 💀
Why put logic in Ur name then began to be illogical 😂
It’s interesting because to hold the position he’s trying to force into the conversation, he has to presuppose hard determinism. Which entails an unjust God.
If he believes the action that happens is the action that was bound to happen, then even his own paradigm falls apart, because how could God be just if he punishes people for actions they had no choice in making? How can there be a test with only one possible answer? All of a sudden he has no standard to critique from.
بارك الله فيك اخي
My brother, you are wonderful. Of course, Only God know each one of us ability and limit. Who succeeds and who fails are only choices. God will not create a test that no one can pass or that is impossible to pass. It is simple and beautiful, God shows us his wisdom and mercy.
bro I liked this so much,, he is trying to fool the wrong guy!.. continue showing us how fraud these people are.. may Allah reward you
Christians taught me how to win a argument even after being dumb and having zero knowledge
They've had 1400 years to come up with a good argument and this is the best they can come up with?
Nothing theological like for millennia Jews promoted monthiesm and now god is telling them he's one of three?
No calling out nonsensical bs like the trinity makes no sense
No real contradictions like how did Judas die
They lost, the moment our religion called them out
Bro would become a great scholar one day Masha’Allah
So by his logic they don’t have the ability to obey God because they decided to disobey God? Does he know us having the urge to do a sin doesn’t mean we don’t have the ability to resist the urge? Like he is mentally challenged or what?
"Hmmm, aaaaa, I don't know, I hear you, It makes perfect sense, But I don't agree, I just love to talk and argue"
Inshallah your channel blows up
9:55 this Christian himself said that those who were tested "gave in to their urges", so they did choose to fail the test after being told it was a test. Christians are just literal walking contradictions .
DogLogic does so much research. May Allah forgive and guide him
Strawmanning the way to defeat, islamicapex slammed badly
Dog logics chick got bodyslammed by Islamic apex
What a clown lol, the "ability to say no" they had it all the time, what took away their ability to say no or yes? They had it all along but choose to disbelieve, it's very simple, but here we have clown logic 🤡
No way they stoop to arguments that are this stupid 😂
I watched this live and realized how ignorant GL 2.0 is
Tell me why this kid is running from a debate with me like Deenresponds did.
@@debunking_izlam wait for him to be live
@@nightnight3715 Well he clearly is doing live debates. However, as evidenced by him deleting my open challenge to him I gather he is scared. That's fine. It is just dissapointing. I debated deenresponds on instagram and honestly, he was embarrassing. He ended up deleting his video that we debated and ran. I mean...RAN. I am not active much but I'll debate this youtuber and Deen at the same time on Islam and its child marriage issue, Islam and the prepubescent status of Aisha, Islam and it's racism issue or we can debate the Korans biological and flat earth errors. Whatever they want.
@@debunking_izlam just wait for his livestream
@@debunking_izlam
Who are you?
Why should anyone debate you?
What do you believe in?
The earth doesn't revolve around you, if he chooses to not debate you, then why are you begging for his attention?
Yes you can say he is running away, no one asked, if he runs, then he runs
Keep giving him views and post more comments, it will help boost the algorithm and let more people discover his channel
You commenting under his channel begging for attention shows your level and why he is not taking you seriously
They are so desperate to find anyyyything to justify their corrupted book😂😂😂
This matters so much, what you are doing bro, SUBBED!!! May Allah grant you the best success and all good both in this world and the next, Ameen.
What kind of stupid logic is that, Allah won't test a person beyond what they can bear, that test could be ilness, loss of job etc. anything.
There's difference to a choice of test you are able to choose, yes or no, and a situation which happens to you beyond your control which Allah ensures you are able to handle!
Does not mean he won't test them, life is a test to see who follows Satan or Allah. This dude is trying to say Allah made us like Angels, who can only do what they are commanded and nothing else!
Who is the reciter during the intro bro?
There is so much hate and envy in this community it’s not how Jesus (God) would’ve handled things he came of this earth holy and perfect and he spread love throughout everywhere and as children of God we should be Christ like. You have to believe the Jesus is the son of God and confess you’re a sinner that needs a saviour and ask Jesus into your heart. Please pray and turn of your sins
Doglogic having the weakest argument 🥴😂😂
So why did the so God sent Jesus pubh to "die for the sins" at the end and not just send Jesus pbuh right after Adam? Why would he make that a means of salvation but have 1000's of years pass before he sent him?
I believe He did that to prepare the world first through scripture, and to work in the peoples hearts before He sent Him. I really hope this helps but if it doesn't I'm sorry and I hope you have a good day
@@hannalieu4654 that still makes no sense why not just send Jesus " to die for the sins" as you believe right at the start no one would have to suffer no one would go to hell? It's an illogical belief no one dies for anyone's sins.
Bruh you must admit, even if you were a Christian, that this is a silly argument
Casual Anas W
Godlogic is bankrupt now
He's the one playing with word games though. It says the ability to pass the test not the probability that you will win no matter what just like what we consider this dunya as a test, we can choose to party, drink and do all kinds of things or to pray to Allah. So, in the end it's all on you because it is a TEST so of course there's a challenge and you have the ABILITY to do so.
This kid is sharp.
He ran away 😅 😅😅😅😅
This is stupid.. the test is whether you studied or not... the exam at the end is just a way of determining whether you pass or not
The new version is even worse than the already worthless original.
Harut and marut did technically gave them the answer
Alhamdulillah all they have is nonsense like this.
He thought he cooked
Can i have Your thoughts on 3:7 contradiction that says some verses are unclear and nobody knows their meaning expect Allah while many verses say all verses are clear i am a muslim i am trying to debate my agnostic freind so perhaps he will be mindful
جزاك الله خيرا استمر
God logic is arguing for electism, that some people are predisposed to pass easy, it's manichean dogma of electi but also dogma of grace, so that you can't pass anything without a help of God so that you need christ to help you pass, you can't pass bc human is inherently si full in nature, you just don't understand each other, you both go into a loop bc of theological thinking differences.
😂 this guy is hilarious. Did he just try to say ability and having the ability to do something is different 😂 no logic 2.0 is another funny dancing jester
He's saying that the ability and being able to is different. For example having the ability to do smt means to have the skills and wtv for it, while being ABLE to is to have the skills for it AND being able to carry out the action in that moment
@ 😂😂😂😂😂 found another ignoramus. You just repeated yourself. Having the ability to do something is the same as having the ability to carry something out you genius. 😆 like seriously u guys need help. If you are able to do something then you also have the ability to do that thing lmaooo.
@ like the fact ur even defending this point by doubling down on the absolute failure of logic is outstanding. Lemme explain this to you easily cause u Christian’s can never admit ur wrong. If God send down a test like magic to the world, and people have the ability to not practice that magic, that means that indeed the people are able to endure that test and reject magic, since they have the ability to do so. If they were not able or did not have the ability, your statement would make sense, but that’s not the case here. So ur ganna have to explain to me how u don’t get this.
this guy, ...first u need to study what Islam says about URGE and FreeWill and WILLPOWER and then u know when to keep quiet and not make fool out of u
Akhi if you want I can edit a intro for your channel free ofcourse may allah swt bless you 😊
The intro is already good
11:30 they forget the concept of free will when their hatred blinds them.
Allah said in the Holy Quran It is not permissible to talk about Islam and religion without knowledge.
الإسراء - الآية 36 وَلَا تَقْفُ مَا لَيْسَ لَكَ بِهِ عِلْمٌ ۚ إِنَّ السَّمْعَ وَالْبَصَرَ وَالْفُؤَادَ كُلُّ أُولَٰئِكَ كَانَ عَنْهُ مَسْئُولًا
(17:36) And follow not (O man., say not, speak not or do not or witness not, etc.) that of which you have no knowledge. And do not pursue that of which you have no knowledge. Indeed, the hearing, the sight and the heart - about all those [one] will be questioned.
الأعراف - الآية 33 قُلْ إِنَّمَا حَرَّمَ رَبِّيَ الْفَوَاحِشَ مَا ظَهَرَ مِنْهَا وَمَا بَطَنَ وَالْإِثْمَ وَالْبَغْيَ بِغَيْرِ الْحَقِّ وَأَن تُشْرِكُوا بِاللَّهِ مَا لَمْ يُنَزِّلْ بِهِ سُلْطَانًا وَأَن تَقُولُوا عَلَى اللَّهِ مَا لَا تَعْلَمُونَ
(7:33) Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to Allah, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about Allah of which ye have no knowledge.
الحج - الآية 3وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يُجَادِلُ فِي اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَيَتَّبِعُ كُلَّ شَيْطَانٍ مَّرِيدٍ
(22:3) And among men there is he who disputes and argue about Allah without knowledge and follows every rebellious Shaitan;
الحج - الآية 8وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يُجَادِلُ فِي اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَلَا هُدًى وَلَا كِتَابٍ مُّنِيرٍ
(22:8) And among men there is he who disputes and argues about Allah without knowledge and without guidance and without an illuminating book,
لقمان - الآية 20 أَلَمْ تَرَوْا أَنَّ اللَّهَ سَخَّرَ لَكُم مَّا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَأَسْبَغَ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعَمَهُ ظَاهِرَةً وَبَاطِنَةً ۗ وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يُجَادِلُ فِي اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَلَا هُدًى وَلَا كِتَابٍ مُّنِيرٍ
(31:20) Do you not see that Allah has made subject to you whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth and amply bestowed upon you His favors, [both] apparent and unapparent? But of the people is he who disputes and argue about Allah without knowledge or guidance or an enlightening Book [from Him].
How did you destroyed him, i think it was otherwise...if you don't have the will power to do something and allah puts you a test then that would mean that you are being setup to fail...allah also says in the quran that he is the one who guides and misguides and it is allah who seals the heart if disbelievers....
but they have the will power to agree or disagree 😂they choose not to
plus god guide the people that choose guidance and misguides the people that choose the opposite it's about choice unless you don't believe free will
Absolutely Correct. Failing a test which is designed for everyone not to fail is a paradox.
@@TheNeoTemplars that's a straw man the test is designed for everyone to have the ability to pass it
@@KallKall-b5h "Allah doesn't test you with something you can't fail" Implies that you aren't capable of failing the test. No matter how hard you try, you just can't fail.
The modal verb "can't" posits it is an impossibility.
@@TheNeoTemplars that's another straw man where's can't or fail in the verse?
2:286 Allah does not charge a soul except [with that within] its capacity. It will have [the consequence of] what [good] it has gained, and it will bear [the consequence of] what [evil] it has earned.
Great job bro ❤
Ur the same child that tried to lie and make dyer argue what you wanted him to argue. U defeated no one. Never will.
Beating ur fav Christian debaters
he didn't defeat them he destroyed them
Well done brother
Yoooo bruh it is comment before i watched the video. keep goin and gain knowledge
بارك الله فيك
Jesus still loves you bro
He knows 😮
That kid is Scrappy to doglogics scooby
Ok Doglogic, here is the same argument fit on you, let's see how?
Allah created us all of us including me and you (Doglogic) for a test and the test is that " You have to believe that there is none worthy of worship and Muhammad SAW is His final prophet", now those who believe in this it means they pass the test and those who reject this ,it means they failed the test. Now Mr Doglogic you have the ability to believe in the above and pass in the test or disbelieve (which you are already doing) and fail the test.
He doesn't have any prophets. He is just the figment of Puppet Momo's imagination.
Bro you probably as old as me and you destroyed him
Simple English and God logic doesn't understand
Why didn't you give sam the source
hahahah sam got owned hahahah hahahhahahhahaha he got out of control this sam
is dog
why did sam keep interrupting him and kick him out and couldnt wait after he finished?
Why didn’t Sam wait until he finished his point?
u are missing something
W anas ❤
I think thr christian might be on drugs😂
Allah brought down a sin to test them. That in itself is a contradiction of Gods will.
well, alot missing
What did he cut out? If you can tell me the debate I'll go watch it.
W
I feel sorry for you Muslim
feel sorry 4 urself ,as we worship Our Creator while you worship the worshipper . Kev
ClownLogic
Allah needs creation to actualise many of his attributes. That makes him a contingent entity by the way.
Example?
@@aaa-dl9rt Easy. Allahs attribute of mercy is dependent upon creation. Without creation Allah cannot give mercy. If you disagree then provide me just one example of Allah giving mercy that did not require the existence of something else.
Nothing to do with the topic being discussed by the way
@@Adnan-gz4zk So you can't give me an example of Allah displaying his attribute of mercy without needing creation to do it. So you agree that Allah is contingent? Point proven. I will not ask you to explain what is the thing that makes Allahs foot different to his hand. As for this topic. To be honest - I did not watch the video. I'll happily watch it and if I think there is a point being made I'll comment however, if the Moslem wins the debate I have no problem with that. I have never claimed critics of Islam are right on everything or that Moslems are wrong on everything.
@@debunking_izlamnobody taking you serious with a name like that I’m sorry 😂😂😂
Debunked: Allah chooses who he will guide and who he won't so it is not our choice. Even in Islam, Allah confused and misguided the Christians to believe in the resurrection.
Allah didn’t misguide the christians. they misguided themselves
When talking to an abdul:
Q. How many qurans?
A. One quran
Q. Is hafs quran a quran?
A. Yes
Q. Is warsh quran a quran?
A. Yes
Q. Is doori quran a quran?
A. Yes
Q. How many qurans?
A. One quran
Q. Are all qurans around the world same?
A. Yes
Q. Do the Sana manuscript and Birmingham manuscript have variants?
A. Yes
Q. Are qurans preserved word for word, letter for letter?
A. Yes
Q. In sura 37.12, one quran says "you", another "I"?
A. They are different accents
Q. How many ahrufs did muhamad recite?
A. 7
Q. How many ahrufs did uthman destroy?
A. 6
Q. How many ahrufs today?
A. 7
Q. How many qiraats did muhamad recite?
A. None
Q. How many qiraats today?
A. 10, 15, 20, 50
Q. Is Bible preserved?
A. No
Q. Is muhamad prophesied in the Bible?
A. Yes
Q. Did muhamad marry a child?
A. No
Q. How old was aisha?
A. 6
Typical illetrate Muslims following illiterate Messenger prophet Muhammad pubh (police be upon him)😂
You are very ignorant
damn assss 3 in 1 Burger aaah stupid aaah relgiiioon.....Don't make me Mock your Pagan God😂
@@gamingwithff2823 looool, he provided a valid argument and all you can do is say he's stupid. I'm praying for ya'll seriosuly❤
Bro beat you and you still think you won 💀
Remember
You cant lie to God
@@Muhammed-l1k yes but the heart is deceitful and the eyes are easily blinded by lies because we often time limit a all powerful and knowing God. Most people on this channel do anyways, however, that statement of yours had absolutely nothing to do with what I said. By definition, that’s not lying to anybody or anything.
@@christianserrano5130 you think GL2.0 won the debate?
@@christianserrano5130 Crazy how you talk about deceit but you are being one of the worst here. Surely you have enough mental capacity to understand he referred to you not being honest with what you said, anyone thinking this guy's argument is right in any way needs to work on their critical thinking skills.
You're just a liar though in this case, which is worse than being ignorant btw
@@christianserrano5130 if we say one can go away with saying I don't have enough willpower every criminal on Earth will get away