This video exaggerates how bad traffic was before the M3 cityring opened. I disagree that we had to battle "constant gridlock". The cityring has made it faster to get around on public transit. It has likely not had much of an impact on road traffic and people who drive to work. If road traffic was slow during rush hour before, it is still slow now. Before the cityring, my commute to work on public transit was a combination of 5C (bus) and S-train. Now it's via cityring and maybe as much as 10 minutes faster. I think that's how the cityring has impacted most people. Copenhagen is discussing other (road tunnel) projects more specifically designed to mitigate road congestion.
@@martyminus90 It depends very much on specific areas of the city. Especially some central hubs are nowadays less traffic jammed as they used to, however due to old-fashioned road system there are still lot of jams on some roads. This is cause by the excessive amount of pedestrians and cyclist, which forced the implementation of traffic lights at nearly every intersection in the city. This creates significant traffic jams during rush hours and is not much affected by the new metro line in general. The people that use the metro now, were mostly using trains (S-train) or buses before. Mostly it improved the access to metro and public transport. Before lot of people were taking trains/buses or cycling to the stations and them used the metro, however now it is very easy to move around the center on foot.
@@martyminus90 I also disagree the traffic had been that bad before opening but it's great to live right next to one of those stations. Metro can get me anywhere within 15-30 mins as fast as a bike.
@@filipkozmer4429 The ultimate dream would be pedestrian and bike-only zones in the centre... Actually quite surprising they don't come up with some underground crossing on those main traffic streets like H. C. Andersens Boulevard.
Narrator said "innovative driverless trains will run" - somehow I think it would've been worth adding, for context, that the existing lines of Copenhagen metro already used the same driverless trains...
At first they didn't at all run as planned, but it took some time to actually make the trains run as intended, and at first the passengers didn't always arrive where expected.
To be fair, the new trains are much more advanced than the old trains. Whereas the old lines uses good old track sections to divide the trains, the new lines uses moving track sections that follows with the trains and are calculated based on speed and braking power, enabling trains to run much closer to each other.
28:15 The narrorator is describing thermite welding like it's this crazy sexy new technology when just about every railroad across the world has been using it for a hundred years.
And still, this metro has done nothing to reduce car traffic in copenhagen. Meanwhile, Copenhagen has scandinavia’s busiest bus line, which still hasn’t been upgraded to light rail. Metro is just an excuse for cars to continue driving in the city, trams take car lanes away, and remove cars from the city centre.
I’m surprised they didn’t cover tunneling under the Marble Church. As far as I understand there were some stability issues which led to that station in particular being the deepest one. The two tracks are on top of each other on different levels, I thought it might have been interesting to see how they managed that.
I live a stones throw from that church and it was indeed interresting during the construction. They froze the ground to prevent the groundwater from draining out and allowing oxygen to reach the wooden pillars many of the old buildings, including the church, is standing on. Most of this part of town is build on old bog/marshlands.
You make a good point, I was accompanying the filming team, also mining under Magasin du Nord where our TBM's passed only a few meters below was a very critical part of the project. They actually filmed a lot of footage but I guess the editor had to decide what was best for the final cut.
Interesting, even for one as myself living in Copenhagen. But the ticket halls referred to in 42:05 is a misunderstanding. Only offline option for tickets, is a machine near ground floor.
Some people now living on top of the tunnels complain that they hear and feel the trains below the old buildings. And that is sad but the price for living in a large city, with constant works and constructions. On the other hand they will now be close to public transport, with hardly any parking space ready to be used, unless extremely expensive and eventually far away.
@@nicolasblume1046 The Cph. Center is very old buildings on rather soft ground. The Christiansborg Castle (The Government building) is built on wooden pillars which may be damaged by lowering the water level? I haven't any experience but we must believe that the statements are true?
The Metro project had quite a lot of work accidents, the reason was that you had workers from all over the world who do not have the same experience or who have the same standard for safety as we have in Denmark. There have been many cases where they have underpaid workers from abroad, we call that slavery in Denmark. There are workers who have lived in small rooms with many others.. There are always 2 sides of a coin
Like any Danish big building project the metro was also a clusterfuck. Just look at the new super hospitals they are building, not so super now and i am sure all over budget and way over time, shit they cant even keep rain out of the places or the walls standing for that matter. If i was in charge i would never allow for such government builds, the country are simply too stupid and incompetent. And i shudder of the thought of the Fehmern tunnel and the energy islands
They are already building an extension :) And no the city is not small, it's actually quit large because there is a height limit to building in the center so you don't get ugly looking skyscrapers
large is very relative. cph may be big for scandinavia but compared to most capital cities and larger cities around the world it is quite small. but denmark is a small country.
You haven’t talked to many from outside the main parts of copenhagen😅the metro is insanely useful for people travelling in and out of copenhagen with its connections to the nearby actual train stations
not in a million years would i think I'd see a long ass documentary about the city ring, shit had taken forever to build and It's funny cuz its almost as if I couldn't remember life before it. Always used to cycle everywhere and I still did but it took the load off 14 year old me. Always admired the M1 and M2 due to it's frequency and constant opperation, the M3 like it's predecesors is an invaluable asset to the city of copenhagen, that easily bolsters the city's efficieny in transport non invasively. Furthermore I don't care if you walk thats good for you but the bike and rejsekort combo will get you anywhere quick and cheaply which this new line obviously reinforces.
I somehow doubt that the metro built in 2002 did not take into account coty growth or demand growth over the span of a decade. That seems like very poor planning for a modern country like denmark. It does sound really cool and urgent tho. Oh discovery/natgeo/historychannel, why do you always want to make it so flashy?
I doubt that as well, as the 2002 tracks were arms going from the centre, and out to the suburbs, while this new track connects these arms in a ring formation.
The "19 miles" referred to throughout are too short to be Danish or Swedish miles. In the description it's 15.5 kilometers so they can't be English miles either.
Poorly researched, badly written and over hyped. Full of errors and falsehoods. Cityringen was a huge project and made a big impact and there is a good documentary to be made about it. Sadly this isn't that documentary
I haven't finished watching the video yet so I don't know if it also covers the M4 line which has been opened at the same time with M3. The M4 isn't fully finished but most of it is and it runs through the same route as half of the M3 cityringen. One of the built ends of M4 is above the ground so I believe that's where they placed the trains on the tracks.
Never heard about any catastrophic floods in the metro or the building of it. But then again the American docs have a tendency to be "overdramatic " sooo.
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The engineers and builders who built this metro and its tunnels are very much appreciated by those of us who now commute on the M3.
Has the traffic reduced after the opening?
This video exaggerates how bad traffic was before the M3 cityring opened. I disagree that we had to battle "constant gridlock". The cityring has made it faster to get around on public transit. It has likely not had much of an impact on road traffic and people who drive to work. If road traffic was slow during rush hour before, it is still slow now.
Before the cityring, my commute to work on public transit was a combination of 5C (bus) and S-train. Now it's via cityring and maybe as much as 10 minutes faster. I think that's how the cityring has impacted most people.
Copenhagen is discussing other (road tunnel) projects more specifically designed to mitigate road congestion.
@@martyminus90 It depends very much on specific areas of the city. Especially some central hubs are nowadays less traffic jammed as they used to, however due to old-fashioned road system there are still lot of jams on some roads. This is cause by the excessive amount of pedestrians and cyclist, which forced the implementation of traffic lights at nearly every intersection in the city. This creates significant traffic jams during rush hours and is not much affected by the new metro line in general. The people that use the metro now, were mostly using trains (S-train) or buses before.
Mostly it improved the access to metro and public transport. Before lot of people were taking trains/buses or cycling to the stations and them used the metro, however now it is very easy to move around the center on foot.
@@martyminus90 I also disagree the traffic had been that bad before opening but it's great to live right next to one of those stations. Metro can get me anywhere within 15-30 mins as fast as a bike.
@@filipkozmer4429 The ultimate dream would be pedestrian and bike-only zones in the centre... Actually quite surprising they don't come up with some underground crossing on those main traffic streets like H. C. Andersens Boulevard.
Narrator said "innovative driverless trains will run" - somehow I think it would've been worth adding, for context, that the existing lines of Copenhagen metro already used the same driverless trains...
Yes. TBMs and the track laying machines are also referred to as "innovative" but then we see that they operate just like any other.
At first they didn't at all run as planned, but it took some time to actually make the trains run as intended, and at first the passengers didn't always arrive where expected.
Also, Cityringen opened in 2019, so it's a bit weird to see this uploaded more than three years later as if the line was brand new.
To be fair, the new trains are much more advanced than the old trains. Whereas the old lines uses good old track sections to divide the trains, the new lines uses moving track sections that follows with the trains and are calculated based on speed and braking power, enabling trains to run much closer to each other.
@@flotfyr14 I see. So the trains on M1 & M2 can't run on M3 & M4 and vice versa.
Sydney Metro also uses moving block (CBTC).
28:15 The narrorator is describing thermite welding like it's this crazy sexy new technology when just about every railroad across the world has been using it for a hundred years.
And still, this metro has done nothing to reduce car traffic in copenhagen. Meanwhile, Copenhagen has scandinavia’s busiest bus line, which still hasn’t been upgraded to light rail. Metro is just an excuse for cars to continue driving in the city, trams take car lanes away, and remove cars from the city centre.
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I’m surprised they didn’t cover tunneling under the Marble Church. As far as I understand there were some stability issues which led to that station in particular being the deepest one. The two tracks are on top of each other on different levels, I thought it might have been interesting to see how they managed that.
I live a stones throw from that church and it was indeed interresting during the construction. They froze the ground to prevent the groundwater from draining out and allowing oxygen to reach the wooden pillars many of the old buildings, including the church, is standing on. Most of this part of town is build on old bog/marshlands.
You make a good point, I was accompanying the filming team, also mining under Magasin du Nord where our TBM's passed only a few meters below was a very critical part of the project. They actually filmed a lot of footage but I guess the editor had to decide what was best for the final cut.
Amazing project, impressive achievement. So easy now to get anywhere in Cph. Wish my country could do such things.
Thank you for uploading this, really interesting!
Interesting, even for one as myself living in Copenhagen. But the ticket halls referred to in 42:05 is a misunderstanding. Only offline option for tickets, is a machine near ground floor.
Some people now living on top of the tunnels complain that they hear and feel the trains below the old buildings. And that is sad but the price for living in a large city, with constant works and constructions. On the other hand they will now be close to public transport, with hardly any parking space ready to be used, unless extremely expensive and eventually far away.
Many residences have underground garages for their tenants
But parking is probably not the reason why trains are better, in Copenhagen like in every city, its the traffic.
That's just very bad planning, they wanted to cut costs.
Usually tracks are mounted on a damper system in sensitive areas
@@nicolasblume1046 The Cph. Center is very old buildings on rather soft ground. The Christiansborg Castle (The Government building) is built on wooden pillars which may be damaged by lowering the water level? I haven't any experience but we must believe that the statements are true?
Thank you sharing. Beautiful City Ring in a beautiful city like Wonderful Copenhagen ❤
thanks for this upload.
The Metro project had quite a lot of work accidents, the reason was that you had workers from all over the world who do not have the same experience or who have the same standard for safety as we have in Denmark.
There have been many cases where they have underpaid workers from abroad, we call that slavery in Denmark. There are workers who have lived in small rooms with many others..
There are always 2 sides of a coin
Like any Danish big building project the metro was also a clusterfuck.
Just look at the new super hospitals they are building, not so super now and i am sure all over budget and way over time, shit they cant even keep rain out of the places or the walls standing for that matter.
If i was in charge i would never allow for such government builds, the country are simply too stupid and incompetent.
And i shudder of the thought of the Fehmern tunnel and the energy islands
They are already building an extension :)
And no the city is not small, it's actually quit large because there is a height limit to building in the center so you don't get ugly looking skyscrapers
large is very relative. cph may be big for scandinavia but compared to most capital cities and larger cities around the world it is quite small. but denmark is a small country.
No local I talked to took Metro regularly, they ride a bike. Insanely convenient in Copenhagen.
You haven’t talked to many from outside the main parts of copenhagen😅the metro is insanely useful for people travelling in and out of copenhagen with its connections to the nearby actual train stations
Also, the tunnels cannot be "4.6 feet wide".
That made me do a double-take too. I'm sure it's meters.
not in a million years would i think I'd see a long ass documentary about the city ring, shit had taken forever to build and It's funny cuz its almost as if I couldn't remember life before it. Always used to cycle everywhere and I still did but it took the load off 14 year old me. Always admired the M1 and M2 due to it's frequency and constant opperation, the M3 like it's predecesors is an invaluable asset to the city of copenhagen, that easily bolsters the city's efficieny in transport non invasively. Furthermore I don't care if you walk thats good for you but the bike and rejsekort combo will get you anywhere quick and cheaply which this new line obviously reinforces.
Weird to see it finished, pretty much grew up with tall green walls outside my home.
Good to see an Australian in charge there fitting the rails
"each station will be unique" quess he has never been there after it opened. they are Identical except for a few stations...
Now build one to Dragør *PLEASE.*
They have already built one more metro line and are now building yet one more
I somehow doubt that the metro built in 2002 did not take into account coty growth or demand growth over the span of a decade. That seems like very poor planning for a modern country like denmark. It does sound really cool and urgent tho. Oh discovery/natgeo/historychannel, why do you always want to make it so flashy?
I doubt that as well, as the 2002 tracks were arms going from the centre, and out to the suburbs, while this new track connects these arms in a ring formation.
Yeah, to connect Amager (the Southen part of Copenhagen) to the rest of the city already existing train network.
01:53 - " have to battle constant gridlock" .. What is he even talking about? There is NO constant gridlock in Copenhagen.
"Cityringen" simply means "The City Circle".
Maybe "City Ring" would be more precise?
Why are the subtitles in ALLCAPS?
It's because of all the accents.
What show is this?
Watch the video and it tells you.
it's called building giants
The "19 miles" referred to throughout are too short to be Danish or Swedish miles. In the description it's 15.5 kilometers so they can't be English miles either.
There are two tunnels, one in each direction.
15,5km x 2 = 31km =19,3miles
@@nicolasblume1046 Of course!🧏♂ Apart from car tyres and chainsaw bar lengths, inches and miles are just a distant memory.
@@peterelvery Even English Rails are now measured in kilometers, I have observed.
Poorly researched, badly written and over hyped. Full of errors and falsehoods. Cityringen was a huge project and made a big impact and there is a good documentary to be made about it. Sadly this isn't that documentary
Typical US Infotainment
@@nicolasblume1046 ja det skal jo være vildt pg voldsomt . Ellers fænger det ikke de gennemsnitlige amerikaner.
how do you get the train down there?
I haven't finished watching the video yet so I don't know if it also covers the M4 line which has been opened at the same time with M3. The M4 isn't fully finished but most of it is and it runs through the same route as half of the M3 cityringen. One of the built ends of M4 is above the ground so I believe that's where they placed the trains on the tracks.
building an entrence
Who made this video?
the metro is really usefull acually i think
@ 16:27 This man is clearly Bane from Batman (The Dark Knight Rises)
Never heard about any catastrophic floods in the metro or the building of it. But then again the American docs have a tendency to be "overdramatic " sooo.
It may be the Storebælt incident, which is behind? Luckily no one was hurt during that.
Lol. I doubt the tunnels are 4.6 FEET wide. I'm sure it's meters.
Some notches to much on drama! 😕
its no toxit in this the had dril so that its a nonsen
Thumbs down for the fake drama. Everything is a risk for these documentary makers, even things that are calculated to be safe.