when you’re actually a pretty decent filmmaker though
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Let's check out how Rian Johnson used the techniques of Alfred Hitchcock to elevate the traditional whodunnit into a thriller-infused mystery movie for his film Knives Out.
Written & Edited by Danny Boyd
What’s your favorite mystery movie/TV show? Or one you just really recommend?
Memento and Se7en are my favorite out of being a mystery/detective but their own way. Memento has the twist of Teddy not being the attacker to Leonard while Leonard was going through amnesia. Se7en with its twist of Tracy being dead with her head of being "What's in the box?" They're all unique in their own setting like it's a Jigsaw Puzzle to solve like in SAW to figure out why John Krammer is doing these traps on innocent people where they're not innocent for their life. That's what got me from those movies.
Lot of spoilers there, but GREAT responses. Some really well-executed twists.
@@CinemaStix If I had to recommend a film for you to watch it would either be 2001 A Space Odyssey because the film was so ahead of its time with Kubrick’s camera angles as an illusion to his technique of using an image projected by the camera as well as if there's other life forms as well. Then if you're really into psychology with film, it would be Mary and Max because of the awareness of Asperger’s Syndrome on film where Autism has been talked about in Rain Man as well as The Accountant with Ben Affleck. They all portray Autism/Asperger’s Syndrome very well in their own way. If you haven't watched any of these films, I recommend them.
There will always be a special place in my heart for Clue. That poor singing telegram.
I really enjoyed Shutter Island
I’m surprised the influence of Columbo wasn’t mentioned. The whole “find out early on who the killer is and watch them try to cover their tracks” is definitely inspired by Columbo, just with a twist.
True, although with Columbo I wouldn’t even say it’s “early on”. It’s immediately. It’s a complete anti-whodunnit. In Knives Out there is an actual period of time where it remains in the traditional whodunnit format and you’re left wondering. Columbo is a cat and mouse game from the very beginning, and while Knives Out gives us a lot of information, Columbo is a total information game outside of how he eventually traps the killer into a confession. Still, yeah, the influences are inevitable within the genre.
… Columbo, by the way, is my favorite show of all time. So I’m just glad it’s getting mentioned in the comments :)
-Danny
@@CinemaStix columboheads gotta stick together 🫡
Haha, heck yeah. If I can get this platform strong enough, I have a dream of interviewing Spielberg about his work on the show. I think it’s be a super fun way to introduce a lot of people to the show who haven’t been exposed to it.
-Danny
@@CinemaStix could start with a video on the show! It’s been a while since i’ve seen it myself, it’d be nice to see someone talking about it after all this time.
@@CinemaStix - I don’t know if anyone has ever tried to replicate the Columbo structure.
This movie is, to me, not only about the twist. It is delightful to watch the family members turning on each other while the only really honest person wins.
Is she actually honest though? She's deceptive for most the movie.
@@ComeGetSome5297 Good question. And yes of course, she's trying to hide her "crime". I was mostly referring to what Benoit Blanc says to her at the end of the movie. She's maybe the only person who doesn't only care about herself...
@@ComeGetSome5297 She hid her “crime” to save her family. And she truly cared about Harlan as a friend. All the others are selfish people who turn on one another for money.
@@mhawang8204 The reasons don't matter. She was deceptive for most the movie. And it's funny that you put crime in quotes. Shes hiding her family's crime..
@@ComeGetSome5297lol sure whatever
Can’t help but feel as though you completely overlook the shift into the second act where we realize Marta had something to do with it and she’s positioned as the protagonist. THAT’s what makes this movie subversive.
Oh, for sure. All that is covered by the excellent video made by Just Write a few years ago. I’m trying not to step on anyone’s toes. The movie’s already been talked about a ton.
-Danny
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"Alfred Hitchcock would probably be making THIS face" is such an underrated gag holy shit
:)
i think what makes this movie really interesting is how it was advertised as a 'who dun it' and it was in the first act
in the second act there's a shift, more information is revealed and you realise: oh no this isnt a 'who dun it' its a 'how's she gonna get away with it'
then by the third act it returns to 'who dun it' and you realise it was always a 'who dun it' and your mind is blown
It’s a double subversion of the whodunnit. And that’s what makes it brilliant.
lol love this. a lot of RJ haters roll their eyes and call it "gimmicky" or "subversion for subversion's sake." and while all his choices are rooted in story/character, this one in particular is kind of a no-brainer. once Marta is established as the protagonist, we experience the story from her perspective. that's only a subversion if you insist on watching the movie incorrectly. centering her perspective necessitates the narrative shifts, and what makes it great movie is that it's her perspective that is centered.
@@brianbourque7411 I called the entire movie because it was utterly obvious. That is why people say it is subversion for subversion's sake.... it was so utterly obvious and predictable.
I saw the 'twists,' and subversions a mile away. My sister made me watch this because she loved it, and thought I watched it before when I called what would happen barely 25% of the way through.
The common trend that I've noticed among people that like this movie is that their collective IQ seems to be slightly higher than average, but not that high.
@@pyropulseIXXI so cool bro they should put you in the newspaper or something
@@pyropulseIXXIhow to respectfully roast your sister😂
You do realize that before star wars, rian directed one of the greatest tv show episodes of all time, ozymandies, breaking bad.
Yes but he didn’t write it. That’s his flaw as a moviemaker. His scripts are terrible.
@@benvids wot? he wrote this film, and he wrote Looper - both are which critically accaimed. Even his debut, which is also written by him, is a cult classic.
@@simonbright2975 I personally think Looper, Last Jedi and Knives Out have bad scripts. I did like Brick which I believe he wrote.
@@benvids yes he did write Brick, great film
@@benvids You did not just call Brick a terrible script
Knives Out is one of the few modern films that I really enjoyed and have viewed multiple times. And your video has now moved it back to the top of my “to watch” list again. Cheers!
For anyone that liked Knives Out and never cared for Star Wars, check out Johnson's other film Brick (2005) with a great, early performance by Joseph Gordon-Levitt
I second that. Great recommendation
As do I.
Looper also a great movie
After I watched Memento, I became obsessed with noir and neo noir genres. I watched Brick around that time, and I gotta say, I was not impressed. First time I tried watching, I actually fell asleep. Second time I forced myself to stay awake, but the boredom was too much, and I ended up never finishing.
I very rarely give up on a movie, Brick was just too boring and unimpressive.
@The Creator After two collaborations, I'm surprised J Gordon-Levitt didn't get a look in for either knives out.
I don't appreciate the subtle slight directed at Glue. :D Classic movie.
And a couple of years after knives out we got "See How They Run " which was done in a similar style.
Knives out also has an argument to make; a theme. Most who/why dunnit stories have the same theme over and over, or a variation of a small number, and it's very vague and usually have very little to actually argue. Knives out actually had something to say, and it was consistently expressed in all the characters and threads. Glass Onion did the same thing. This is why the new Poirot films kind of land flat.
Glass Onion was crap and the actions of it characters not only don't make sense but are irrational. The structure of the first is really solid but my be a bit predictable, with Glass Onion it's bad writing with a cover "surprise".
I want to see more knives out movies… but everybody nit picking Glass Onion. Because they can’t “forgive” Johnson.
Can I just say, Clue is a perfect film and a gem that is not found by a lot of people
My friends and I met Tim Curry after a show in the late 80's. We told him how much we loved "Clue" and he said "Thank you! I do too!" 😊
Clue is my cult classic film favourite. That singing telegram lady scene still cracks me up 😂😂
This channel is quickly and consistently becoming one of the most entertaining and informative movie channels on the whole sight. Big props to you man.
I really appreciate it :) It’s definitely doing better than I could’ve hoped, that’s for sure. It’s great having all the support I can get.
Thanks again.
-Danny
Hear hear! I agree!
Also you could have stated that the thriller part was not overshadowed by the mystery because we the audience thought that we already KNOW whodunnit. Making the end reveal even better while still keeping the emotional connection throughout the entiremovie
People just reveal their ignorance when they call Rian Johnson a bad or untalented filmmaker. It''s totally fine if you dislike some or even all of his movies as it's all subjective, but to say he doesn't understand cinema is an objectively stupid thing to say.
How do you like "The hateful eight"?
It seems you put a lot of work in this and it's good -- why change it to unlisted?
I stopped this video then watched the movie and finished the video after the credits.
:)
It's like one person takes the legacy of another person to revive the work that they've worked so hard for to get people hooked from in the beginning. The picture is what we imagine but can it be made as a reality from one setting to a future setting. It reminds me of what Stanley Kubrick said a long time ago.. “Never say no to an idea - you never know how that idea will ignite another idea.”- Stanley Kubrick. That's what Rian Johnson had with Knives Out. It's also why Steven Spielberg made Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade as an apology to Temple Of Doom. Similar situation Rian Johnson did from Star Wars. You can bring back a genre that was long forgotten but with a twist and that's what Knives Out did (but without M. Night Shyamalan with his never ending twists).
Actually Knives Out sucked. Mostly because of the worst foreign accent attempt of all time.
@@paul_warner that it? Really bruh
LewdLeaf no, that’s just the easiest one to explain
@@MrAtroncoso I agree
The force awakens was basically just a remake of the older Star Wars movies. Almost exactly. Just sort of swapped some aesthetics.
Please talk about Brick sometime
Knives Out is my favorite murder mystery since Rear Window or Clue.
Open to more recommendations!
Fun fact about Rear Window, there's a poster of Rear Window in The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) in Peter's bedroom.
I will be the minority and vote for Dirk Gently (canadian series) a little beyond realism, but the approach on getting the final clues are satisfying
Not really a who dunnit type, more like whose the one hiring Dirk to do his weird investigation?
Memories of Murder is a crazy one, definitely recommend. way darker than the ones you list though so watch out for that. under the silver lake is definitely a mystery type of movie but it’s not a murder mystery exactly. blue velvet is a cool one. the long goodbye goes nice with the big lebowski if you like that. kiss kiss bang bang, the nice guys, lethal weapon, the long kiss goodnight, and three days of the condor are all great and probably more up your alley based on the three films you recommend, they’re more light hearted, fun, funny. also all set during christmas.
The movie Death on the Nile is great.the book ten little Indians or and then there were none (it goes by two names) by Agatha Christie is really good
@@isaiahvoss that’s more of a fun fact about TASM rather than Rear Window, still a cool fact though
What is the animated show in 0:42 ??
Late to the party, I know, but I hope that CinemaStix will join Nebula.
I wish. It’s an invite only sort of thing, so I’m just sort of waiting and hoping :)
This may be one of my least favorite comment sections of all time.
You should see the one on my latest video..
@@CinemaStix what happened lol
@@Falllll The comments were automatically disabled by youtube. He theorises it may be because TH-cam identified the video as “featuring a minor” (because of the little boy), or specifically a minor put in a dangerous situation. (this info was taken from his discord)
@@Sebastian_Espinoza13 Gotcha thanks
"star wars didn't work out so you direct a murder mystery instead"... and it was f**king Amazing!!!
:)
But he also directed the best movie out of 9 Star Warses
XD@@kapsi
@@kapsi Dude wtf are you smoking?
Although he already was planning on making Knives out.
Hitchcock would've loved Columbo
Has Hitchcock ever made another face?
What I really liked about Knives Out, is the fact that it presents itself as a "false mystery" kind of thing.
We, the viewer, saw the ending of Harlan Thrombey, convinced that Martha did in fact inject the wrong thing, and that Harlan commited suicide to protect her. It's not up to us to find who's done it before the end of the movie with clue gathering and all that jazz.
BUT that doesn't mean that other characters in the movie have that same perspective. To everyone except Martha, that's very much a who dunnit, and therefore gets all the codes from it. The movie then turns into us following Martha that is trying to get away before Benoit Blanc finishes the who dunnit mechanic, it's absolutely not the same kind of movie, and we aren't in that clue gathering thing.
Then Benoit Blanc sloves the thing, exposes Ransom as the true culprit of the whole thing and then your brain (that haven't really been used much cause you weren't paying attention) clicks ans all the things that happened in the movie make sense. And there you have your dopamine hit without even knowing you were in a who dunnit from the start.
What it does well is tell you *exactly* whohunnit almost from the start.
I think the only thing I want to add is that I just don't think Hitchcock was right with his assessment of whodunnits. It feels like an opinion based on short stories that are meant to be one and done affairs (for the most part) and movie adaptations of mystery novels (don't know how many there were at a time but they do often run into the issue Hitchcock mentioned) rather than full novels and original movies.
We want information, Imformation!
Also johnson was- once again- caried by his BRILLIANT cinematographer steve yedlin
Dude, you're undervalued
I certainly appreciate it :) But I dunno. My stuff’s doing better than I ever could’ve hoped.
Bro why did you choose this music?
Great analysis and storytelling Mr. Stix! :}
Thanks so much!
-Danny :)
Wait… Ryan Johnson did this? How is he doing such a great job but then so utterly fail Star Wars?
It was an interesting choice to use the B&W footage from The Big Lebowski when you were intro'ing the idea of whodunit in this video.
Does it work though ?
The movie isn't just inspired by Agatha Christie's Hercule Poirot, it's also very much inspired by the Pink Panther's Jacques Clouseau. Benoit Blanc is a clueless detective who is genuinely very good at his job, blending both styles of character. He also has the French name, of course.
that's a movie that i can watch and rewatch anytime and still can enjoy it
This movie was a complete abomination. Just incredibly stupid and terribly written at every turn. I dont know why people like his movies...
I appreciate the title change for this video
Honestly, I'm enjoying the slight resurgence of mystery films, a very fun genre
Hitchcock was always making that face.
I think you should do a comparison to Foyles War. The writer made it because he was tired of whodunnits and wanted to make a show with more to say for itself
Columbo *thunderous applause
Oh he directed Brothers Bloom?! It all makes sense now!
Will you make a video about the glass onion?
It's a damn shame that Star Wars has tarnished the perception of this man's talent. Okay, he fucked up The Last Jedi, but pretty much everything else he's done is golden. He even directed what's widely regarded as the best Breaking Bad episode.
Which one? Is it the Crawl Space?
@@dentangaji6161 No its Ozymamdias
he didn’t fuck up the last jedi
@The Creator why are you riding Sam Mendes throughout this entire comment section? Under every comment you’re talking about franchises and Sam Mendes. Just give it a rest
@The Creator Idk who these people are who supposedly hated Skyfall. In my experience it's generally agreed upon to be one of the best bond films. Spectre, on the other hand, despite being made by the same team, was hot garbage.
He’s a good director, he just wasn’t a good director for Star Wars.
Star Wars just isn’t narratively designed in a way that works well with the mystery stories that Rian Johnson is used to writing; it focuses more on world
building and visual storytelling than dialogue and character depth.
Rian Johnson is really good at making movies.
rian johnson made "brick" and it was the last good movie he made. he has style and sometimes clever dialogue but that's it.
I think when you look at the last Star Wars trilogy in the Skywalker saga, The Last Jedi is the most explorative of character, philosophy, and theme of Star Wars (which is good vs. evil).
The other two movies are cliche regurgitations of the genre. Just saying.
it certainly did much more than the other two that bookend it, but it still isn't good. Knives Out though is a total masterpiece from start to finish
@The Creator The difference is, Skyfall kills off M as a conclusion to her own arc and to the three-film relationship Bond has with her (With resonations even to the boss-agent relationships non-connected M’s that Connery to Brosnan had - Yes, Craig Bond’s M is not the same character as Brosnan Bond’s M). TLJ was like putting M in a clown outfit and having her slip on a banana peel and break her skull doing it, and if anyone cries foul, IT’S SUBVERSIVE YOU RACISTS.
@The Creator Oh of course you can.
It’s just that auteurs under the correct conditions can fuck up (especially middle pieces in franchises) in wholly different ways than the producers’-bitches corporate-shills do.
@The Creator "The Last Jedi is to the franchise the same way Skyfall & Spectre were to Bond: franchise films made by auteurs who went beyond blockbuster conventions by doing their own thing, staying true to their directing style and artistic visions."
An obvious flaw in your comparison (and believe me, I've seen people try to compare these two, and fail) - Bond was an adaptation of a novel, and reinvented numerous times, by numerous actors and directors, an as a franchise based in our world (if a little unrealistic) it had to adapt with, and reflect, our times as they changed. It couldn't continue to be misogynistic and racist. And as a franchise it's simply a spy thriller, and never had aspirations beyond that.
On top of that, Casino Royale rebooted that franchise with a new actor, and new tone, heavily inspired by the popularity of the Bourne movies. As such, anything that came after associated with Craig had earned a certain amount of leeway, given how Casino Royale was a breath of fresh air from the stale and ridiculous tripe of the later Brosnan movies - just as Brosnan's own Goldeneye debut also reinvigorated the brand. Still, in many ways they fall short of the charm and glamour of the earlier movies, with their taut and unapologetic approach. The later Craig movies are equally pretentious and bloated as the Brosnan & Moore movies were ridiculous.
This of course, has fuck all to do with Star Wars, except for your desire to berate viewers and fans of the franchise for not giving the requisite reverence you think these directors deserve. And the obvious counterargument to that is this - you have to earn that, not expect it.
Now, you can't make arguments about nuance and try to put these franchises in the same camp just because you subjectively like these directors. That makes no sense, except as a disingenuous comparison.
@The Creator No, no you misunderstand.
You claim that the fandom is the problem for the perception of directors who 'did their own thing' - when this is purely your subjective opinion on why those movies were divisive.
As I've pointed out to you, Marcia and Hirsch, who worked on some amazing movies, and certainly not merely 'franchise movies' both intensely disliked TLJ.
That means it's legitimate to dislike TLJ for a number of reasons, beyond 'artistic expression', and when you imply that it isn't, that's disingenuous.
As for your claim that Lucas is 'a hack director' - he has both THX and American Graffiti in the NFR, and it would appear that they have ZERO Johnson movies.
That leads to the conclusion they didn't consider any of his movies, "culturally, historically or aesthetically significant", or at the very least there were 25 more worthy alternatives for each the years he released a movie.
I would also point out that Coppola was prepared to buy out the studio to release AG as it was cut - indicating that he thought it a valid enough work, and certainly a good financial investment.
So I don't see the basis for your rather aggressive stance in the comments section that Johnson is as significant as you want to claim.
While Mendes has a much more critically acclaimed career than Johnson, critics weren't exactly enthralled with Spectre.
And again, your insistence that Bond and Star Wars are comparable in this context is deeply flawed - Bond is not one continuous story - a notable example being the way Felix Leiter has died at least twice, if not more.
"If Gerwig and Bong did IP-oriented films the same way Mendes and Johnson did theirs, you would have trashed on them in an instant because franchises and IP’s matter more to not to just you but to also the entirety of close-minded fans than directors and their visions; and that is the bleakest thing in the world."
No, dude. It's another example of how you have fuck all idea what I think.
Given that Brosnan made Bond look rather naff, the Craig reboot was necessary in a world with Bourne movies.
I thought Skyfall was fine - rather convoluted plot to just attempt to shot M with a gun, but whatever. Spectre was rather dull as were QoS and NTtD.
The problem is not that TLJ was an 'artistic expression', the problem was that it was not interested in answering any of the dull mystery boxes that TFA nearly bothered to actually set up. And as such I lay the blame permanently at TFA for establishing a dull trilogy in the first place. TFA couldn't be any more generic, because Lucas' movies each took risks (and many more than TLJ took).
And while subjectively you may want to claim TLJ has more 'nuance' or 'deeper themes' etc it fails to be Star Wars on several levels.
1. It isn't actually fun.
2. It relies on false suspense.
3. It's so busy explaining what the OT meant to the audience, to the audience, it forgets point number 1.
There's plenty of deeper themes and nuance in the saga Lucas made, it's just that (typically) Johnson fans are snobs and fail to even notice it.
Johnson fans tend to prefer their themes overtly labored for the audience to see, and don't even recognise that they themes they are so excited about are already demonstrated better in Lucas' saga.
By all means cite something from TLJ that has transcended the fandom and become as recognisable and popular as what Lucas created.
In case you don't get it, the Lucas saga is a big budget independent movie series.
All Johnson did was tack on something derivative for Disney. There's nothing special about that.
4:22 Hey, Clue is great.
Cool video but the title pisses me off so much
He’s always been a good director, you star wars dorks are just one-dimensional
glass onion
In my opinion, if Rian Johnson was given free-reign to the entire sequel trilogy - we might've gotten something truly beautiful and thought provoking.
The problem with The Last Jedi is that Johnson came in, crammed all his crazy ideas into one movie, and didn't leave any room for the following movie to do anything.
You'd have a point if The Last Jedi wasn't singularly awful.
“Didn’t leave any room” IMO he blew the door open for the next movie to go anywhere. They had an entire galaxy but JJ brought it back into a corner.
0:45 anybody know where this is from?
I need to watch Rian's other movies
Did _you_ dunnit, Stix? 👁
If you’re referring to any cake that’s been eaten…… my lips are sealed.
-Danny
@@CinemaStix _hmmmmmmmmmm_
@@jerrycoob4750 I had to translate with google to figure out ur comment
1:35 song name?
I’ve always said that Rian Johnson is a good director. Brick is one of my fav directorial debuts from a filmmaker
I begrudgingly admit that the first one was solid ... But that second one was overcooked dog shit.
The true tragedy is the hard work of people that know their craft that went into it and is now muddied by the idiocy of those who didnt put in the same effort
After the first seconds I immediately stopped and watched the whole movie. Damn what a good one that was … and now having the deep explanation of you makes it so much better
This is such a good movie
this is so fire!
This video perfectly encapsulates the difference between a film-maker like Rian Johnson, and one like J.J. Abrams. Props for not spelling it out for us though.
Then he does glass onion which is garbage
Hoping Glass Onion will be good
@dehydrated plant awesome
Hitchcock's bomb also works the other way around though. Let a bomb go off unexpectedly at the start of a movie and for the rest of the movie the audience will be on the edge of their seat worried about another bomb. Like Children of Men, or Syriana.
All I see is duality
Didn't know McLovin had a TH-cam channel
Because I have a lisp?
My only question to the director is how to you fuck up an entire franchise and then make this movie. Which is fucking good.???!
@The Creator corporate america would disagree, that's why Johnson lost his next Star Wars films. Source material is far more important which he knowingly threw away.
@The CreatorWhat are you president of his fan club? calm down lol
So hyped for his trilogy, I think the “Rian shouldn’t do franchise films” thing is a cope from those who have seen that he, in fact, is a great director with a great filmography. Like it or not Last Jedi was critically and commercially acclaimed, it was a success, so I can’t wait to see what he does with his new set of films.
Knives out is peak
Last Jedi was not critically acclaimed, it gets an extremely heated reception to say the least, and was hated by a lot of the fans of the franchise (it sits at 42% on Rotten Tomatoes, even with the site purging negative reviews).
Also, of course it was going to be a commercial success as it was the next entry after Episode 7 which gets a way better reception, so people were going to see no matter its quality, it's revenue is not saying much.
@@yopyopboumboum9505 It’s sitting at an A- on cinemascore, a 7/10 on imdb, 90% on RT, with average user ratings of 3/5. It’s a critical success per these aggregate sites, despite what a viral TH-cam video might tell you, and most audiences have actually enjoyed the film, despite rumblings from the internet.
And yeah regardless of its comfy spot as a financial success, it was still wildly popular at the box office and people still talk about it passionately half a decade later. Point being, there’s no indication the film was some objective failure that people kind of assume it was, and it makes perfect sense why he’s getting his own trilogy.
you are talking about scores from "professional" critics, which are always praising any high budget movie as there are lot of financial stakes behind the scenes.
The audience score says it all.
So no, not most audiences enjoyed it, far from it, but I guess it indeed had a more welcomed reception from younger audiences which tend to naturally gather around every "big geeky thing" as it creates a sense of community (and that's normal and great).
And yes it seems people are still 'passionately' talking about it a (not yet a) decade later, but maybe not in the sense you implied.
But what it this trilogy you are talking about ? Never heard about it.
Cope or not, would you sit by while someone shat on your favorite franchise? Would you still try to be critical? You'd like to say that you would, sure, but at the end of the day, people have emotions. They want the next installment of their favorite franchise to be earthshattering and everything they wanted. When it's average, they might give it a pass. When it's bad enough tens of thousands of fans call it a trigger to losing faith in a beloved and old franchise, they've got a right to be pissed. When they learn it was all a fluke? They have to justify it all somehow. And maybe it is a cope. Fine. You know what I say? I'm mad enough to say this dipshit shouldn't have a career over what he did to star wars. I hope you can cope with that.
@@yopyopboumboum9505 you do realize that something being critically acclaimed means that critics are the ones praising it, right? it's literally the operative word
Excited to see this on efap
Great video! Really makes me wanna watch the film, without spoiling anything! :D
Ok now I want to see it.
I may be uncultured, but... didn't Hitchcock himself rely on a surprise twist in Pyscho?... Is he just a hypocrite, or is his somehow different?...
I don’t really understand it, but I agree
For anyone interested, this video essay goes over the same thing, possibly it was the inspiration behind this video. From youtuber channel Behind The Curtain interviewing Rian Johnson:
th-cam.com/video/Jd4XUCIqoFU/w-d-xo.html
Sorry, but I still can’t believe people haven’t recognized the terrible writing in this film 🤦🏼♂️
Every film Rian has made is great, I honestly believe that. The Last Jedi has flaws, but they are only blown up because Star Wars fanboys can't get over the fact that Luke Skywalker isn't Jesus. I love watching our heroes have flaws, I love watching our heroes crack and get angry. I absolutely loved Luke in the Last Jedi. Sure, I wish he had more to do with Rey and Ben, but man, his final moments were amazing. Brick is amazing, Looper is amazing, Knives Out is amazing. Rian Johnson is amazing. The internet needs to chill with it's bandwagon hate. The amount of death threats and cruelty directed towards Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson is despicable.
That being said, the title of this video is so childish, but it certainly gets the clicks.
I've never understood why fans found it so impossible for Luke Skywalker's character to turn so sour. Did they even actually watch the original trilogy? Luke was always impatient and looking for quick and easy solutions. It was always in his character.
@@PhilMoskowitz His character arc in the first three films was largely about growing out of that mindset, which is exactly why the fans have so many issues with him in tlj. I've never been a huge star wars fan, so when i first watched the film I felt that Luke's arc worked -- at least as a standalone film -- but it kinda does fall apart upon closer inspection in the context of everything that came before.
It didn't help most of the other plotlines in the movie were both boring and full of holes. It just wasted so much time without going anywhere. Plus, not having Rey join Kylo after that honestly brilliant twist about her parentage was just a wasted opportunity. Especially considering they had a whole nother film to really allow her to figure out what kind of person she wants to be now that get foundations have been pulled out from under her. It was the perfect setup to give such a bland character a decent arc and payoff in the end.
Thats such a disingenuous take of TLJ critics, theres far more problems than Luke being out of character. Could literally talk for hours on how bad the film is, and only half the time would be lore related.
You were about a quarter of the way to a good point... and then the video just ended.
You just say that Rian Johnson uses information and that's why Knives Out is successful. No examples from the movie; no counter-examples of other movies that don't do this, and why they're not successful because of it; no qualifier as to WHY this is better, other than the Hitchcock quote that we've all heard a million times before.
Even the title is just clickbait, which worked on me I guess, but ultimately the entire video just says... Absolutely nothing.
I came into the video intrigued, but I won't be coming back.
Why does it work? it doesn't. the "surprise" fell flat, a great opportunity for a real surprise was missed, and Rian Johnson is NOT "actually a pretty decent filmmaker".
Nice video bro. He's a good director but I think he mostly looks through a key hole instead of the broader picture
That’s a really interesting observation! Could you expand on that at all?
@@CinemaStix lol ur response sounds like a teacher when a kid says something totally dumb on a book report
You’re not wrong there. Let me clarify: that was NOT a dumb question, and I am genuinely interested. Or I truly wouldn’t have asked.
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@@CinemaStix I'm not saying it was dumb just saying u sounded like what a teacher would say to a student that said something dumb
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Deep appreciation for the Masterpiece Mystery cameo!
Hitchcock was right. Mystery novels and mystery movies are dreadfully dull and the payoff is always a let down. That's why I love "Columbo" and don't really like other detective shows, because it's a "How Catch Em?" We know everything and we get to see him figure it out.
You win a billion.
Made over a billion dollars and is the third best film in the Star Wars series, think it worked out quite well. Sure, some incels got upset, but that’s fine.
Tbh it wasn't just the incels that hated it... It just wasn't very good - and was exceedingly poorly planned for movie 2 in a trilogy. Knives Out however was fantastic film. Sometimes good directors make bad movies, his Star Wars film was one of them, and that's ok.
@@KaeEbonrai incels and people who don’t understand Star Wars. Think we can agree that’s a fair way to describe 99.999999% of the people who cry about TLJ.
If that's what helps you sleep at night...
@@KaeEbonrai having a healthy attitude about movies I like and dislike means I don’t need help sleeping. Unlike the incels who are still angry about a half decade old movie in a franchise that was batting .500 until 2015
@@johnnymizanin4835 you've neatly categorised everyone who doesn't like the film as incels... Or people who simply don't know anything about it - like, mate. That's kinda a shit take.
yeah it was only rubbish whodunnits that forgot character. Sherlock Holmes is a case in point where Doyle had to add Watson as Sherlock was too removed from emotion and lacked a dimension of character.
RJ is a good filmmaker, a million star wars manchildren be damned
Woah all of our objective arguments against his trash movies are gone
People who say he is a bad director haven't watched his movies or is exclusively a Star Wars fan. You could question his writing (there are good criticisms against it), but his directorial skills are top class.
Sadly, I figured out who did it about half way through. Not because I'm that intelligent, but because I've worked in the industry and have a writing background and (for SOME unknown reason) a sudden injection of a trope gave away the gag. As a result, the second half of the movie simply felt "by the numbers".
I don't know how or why this was done, but my guess is someone came in and said, "Nope. Don't like that. Change it." and just took over the writing/production. I've seen it many times in movies where you can actually SEE the change in writing quality when the studio takes over and it's ruined many potentially great movies.
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Not related but, when rian johnson haters find out he directed the best episode of TV of all time 😱
Which was Breaking Bad's Ozymandias.
@@isaiahvoss yep
it makes you realize what he did was not of out sheer stupidity, but of pure malice
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I hated the last Jedi, and from what I’ve seen of the Rian I don’t really like him either. I loved Knives Out however, and after having read through these comments I will seek out and watch Brick.