Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania - Cosmonaut Quickie
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Nothing makes me more excited for a movie than it's major selling point being that it sets up other, possibly slightly better movies
Bruh i don't understand why mcu fans get hyped over the credits lmao. Like bruh it's gonna be the same shit all over again next movie, so funny 😂
@@VerticlSpoon Probably because Phase 3 was their brief glimpse of movies that were quite different and actually pretty damn good. But the new movies have kinda regressed to that ancient Phase 1 style in my opinion. 🤷♂️
@@CrowTRobot yea marvel has peaked at Endgame, and now they can't do anything new
they've forgotten the entire reason the Avengers was popular was because everything else at the time was X-Men and Spiderman, they did something new and cool, but now every new story has to have SOMETHING to do with the Avengers 😔
@@VerticlSpoon Because they’re marvel fans and of course they’re gonna be excited about sneak peaks for future installments
I mean infinity war sets up endgame and that turned out well
Watching Modok and kang on screen at the same time was like watching venom let there be carnage and infinity war at the same time
Lol, perfect analogy
I dont think he was THAT bad. I dont think he was bad at all! MODOK was a lot of fun and provided way more entertaining action than anything Kang did. Maybe I'm a troglobyte but he was genuinely making me laugh too. Just a fun character, if you took him out I think Id like it less.
They're starting to get into the weeds with these Marvel characters. It's great
@@pphillips4586it’s not “bad” per se, most of the movie isn’t, I quite liked it actually, but it’s hard not to see the missed potential, there’s a lot they could’ve done better just all around
@@pphillips4586 MY NAME IS DARREN had me on the FLOOR!
When you talk about the badly timed cuts, there's a super interesting quote from an interview with the CGI artists where they said that parts at the beginning and ends of shots were cut away because of unfinished CGI. All the CG artists deserve better.
It's me again, Mr. New Vegas, reminding you that you're nobody 'til somebody loves you. And that somebody is me. I love you.
That's really bad for them, hope they got better job
That must be why they've delayed a bunch of their films then!
The thing that bugs me after watching this movie is that the trailer sort of give off the idea that Kang promising Scott the time he lost with Cassie would become the foundation of their cooperation, and that Scott would comply on his own will due to Kang's reassuring manipulation (They did say in the movie that Kang is very convincing). Instead, their collab was a forced one simply because Kang threatened to kill Cassie if Scott won't comply. He did promise Jane time in a flashback later on, but that was also after she discovered his universal massacre. So I feel like the whole "Kang can promise you a place in time" was just brushed off in favor of letting the heroes triumphantly win over a cliche villain motivation when it could've been a better plot device in the movie.
Yeah, once again the trailer presented a much better movie than what Marvel actually made. Kang tempting people with time is a cool idea. Kang just being like "hey do what i want or ill kill ur daughter lol" is the exact same shit every saturday morning cartoon villain does.
Congrats marvel! You made a 250 million dollar saturday morning cartoon.
I'm so happy they didn't go down that route. It would've been beyond stupid for Scott to do anything like that. I'd take a cliche plot device done well rather than a nonsensical one
heh... bugs...
They def heavily rewrote the script. Pretty sure that was the original idea that Scott takes willing help from Kang. Its why he sounds so angry towards the end when hes big. They went thru a bunch of trouble that ends up being cut. Not to mention the movie was originally ending with Scott and Hope getting stuck in the quantum realm
That whole torture scene was so awkward. First he lifts her up with his force powers or whatever... then he turns her sideways.... ooooooooo >.>
I find hilarious that Cassie managed to rally the entire Quantum Realm into fighting against Kang, convinced a villain to turn into a good guy, and learn quantum mechanics in 20 seconds to open the portal back to Scott and hope. Not once did I think there was a sense of danger when everything was going well for the good guys
I was hoping for a heroic sacrifice or something to end the Antman trilogy. Oh well...
She’s a Mary sue
@@imulan -- If you didn't already like the movie having one of the heroes die probably wouldn't have fixed it.
Also, isn't killing one of the heroes pretty formulaic as well? Does every trilogy need to end with one of the heroes being killed? Can't help but feel like people would just rag on it even more if Scott died. Lest we forget that these are movies based on comic books where everyone has been the same age since their creation and anyone that's ever died can always come back.
@@StillTendoHere’s a tip for when you see someone using Mary Sue unironically: run away in the opposite direction!
@@incredibilistic i mean its not formulaic at all for marvel is the point, theyve stayed mostly away from heroic sacrifices especially within the smaller movies, the only two i can really think of are in Avengers 1 and in endgame when ironman stops a nuke, and when he does the snap. The iron man trilogy didnt end with him dying or even anyone close to him dying just his suits, captain america 3 doesnt kill anyone other than tonys and steves relationship and tchallas dad (which we never see properly mended theyve just kind of made up by endgame), thor 3 doesnt end with any of the main cast dying either unless you count hela, my point is just for marvel no its not formulaic, for basically every other superhero movie? yea
Can’t wait for Marcus to come back 6 months from now and turn his 5/10 to a 3/10
"I gave it a 5? I was on crack!!!" proceeds to give it a 4
@@Hyde_Lawrence “3”
On his partb2 updating his old reviews?
It's the circle of life.
Exactly after MCU phase 6 will get over and multiversal saga gets over with that he will definitely gonna make a video on reviewing all the multiversal saga movies and definitely gonna give this movie 3/10
I didn't realize until this moment that Quantumania has the words Ant and Man in it. Thanks, Cosmonaut
I'm so glad you mentioned the issue with no one wanting to talk about Kang for like a third of the movie (or more). Like, I get the "let's be vague about the villain/problem at first for drama" thing but then it just went on WAY, WAY TOO LONG. And you're right, the decision to keep withholding information about Kang from everyone not in the know was absurd. From Pfieffer's perspective especially the decision to avoid talking about Kang and what was up with him was directly in conflict with her excuse that she's trying to protect Wasp and Hank. Not telling them prior to getting sucked into the Quantum Realm made a little sense, but once they were already sucked in and in Kang's territory, not telling Hank and Wasp what they were up against *actively put them in more danger.*
It was clear that the writers wanted to keep building Kang up until they were ready for him to walk on screen, but it was so artificial and contrived that it just annoyed me. Majors did a great job in his role, and Paul Rudd is always fun to watch, but it was also distracting how much of the movie was clearly shot inside the Well of Doom or whatever they call that 360 No Scope CGI prison. It was clear that they had limited camera angles to work from, so a lot of it was shot up close to the actors, and it felt like several of them were clearly uncomfortable with it. It just called even more attention to how fake it all was, which was a shame because I like the weirdness of the Quantum Realm.
My theory is that the original story had Kang and Janet form a romance during their time stuck together in the quantum realm. The whole movie makes more sense this way. It would justify kang being introduced in an ant-man movie. It would explain why Janet tried so hard to keep him a secret, even when that secret was becoming a liability to her family. It would explain the pointless inclusion of bill Murray for one scene where he reveals his fling with Janet and then just dies. It would explain the opening scene of the movie being kang and Janet alone together. It would have added some tasty drama to the story. It probably didn’t test well with pre-screening audiences or something, so they panicked and retooled things and created the bill Murray scene
I wish they just pulled a Voldemort and had Kang (through tech or something) be able to sense when Janet talks about him.
Or really just anything to justify why she did what she did. Instead, we just got her being dumb for no real reason?
Jonathan Majors back is gonna hurt after carrying these next few phases
At least he has variants
I mean, have you SEEN his back? Dude's built like Atlas, he'll be fine haha
Yes very eloquent, Mac.
He can pay for surgery with Marvel's paycheck
@@thekrogg137I was literally about to comment this. Man is built to carry anything he damn well pleases
Out of all of the Ant-Man movies, this was certainly one of them.
It’s Ant-manin’ time
@@heynowur9146 “Got room for one more?” *entire female cast of the MCU shows up behind Ant-Man*
You mean the most movie of all time
No it wasn't
It's sad that antman got 3 movies but the dceu Superman only got 1
Micheal Douglas's acting in Quantumania consists of going around in a crazed daze talking about ANTS! And I loved it.
I do like that he brings some genuine feeling nerd energy to the character. like hank pym got bullied in high school for being way too enthusiastic about science class.
Hank was probably my favorite of the side characters, mostly cuz he actually feels like he’s undergone serious character development and genuinely loves his wife
Glad for you, i hated it
I like his moments as you know; he is Antman. Ants.
@@jeremytewari3346 yea but they make his wife so unlikable that i feel like it makes hank unlikable for liking her
I love how your cat is like "Stop pointing that lethal thing at me!"
Cats are little mischievous creatures love them ❤ 🥰
I thought his cat was grey? Or maybe he has another one we haven't seen before lol
@@raptorjesus9054 Pretty sure he's had more than one cat for a while, but I haven't been track either admittedly.
@@WSendam cats are cowardous bastards
For a movie called antman and the wasp, you’d think the wasp would actually be in the movie, but no she doesn’t do anything and only shows up when the script needs her to show up. The only bit of new information we get from her is in the beginning when Scott is talking about his life and just brings up that Hope is the CEO of her dads old company, and that’s it. We never go back to it and it’s never gets mentioned again. You think as the owner of a company she’d be more preoccupied than ever, instead of just hanging out w/ Scott.
The wasp feels like Tails in a sonic game, just kind of there unless you really need them.
Honestly she wasn’t needed for this story. It should have been Antman and his daughter alone in the quantum realm
To be fair, this is such a problem in comics in general.
How does Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne possibly have time to be saving the world and keep their respective companies afloat?
It's a similar issue to the child super genius in this film where both Riri and Cassie are unrealistically smart, they probably graduated with a PhD before they turned 13 in our world
"only shows up when the script needs her to show up."
Send me your script please i must read.
@@ahmadkaien It is fiction. They are super heroes. FFS you all are the worst kind of children.
Jonathan Majors was so good it made me even more apathetic to the rest of the movie than I already was. It just felt like he deserved to be in a much better film.
I feel that's what usually happens in these movies nowadays. I felt the same with Christian Bale. He didn't deserve to be in that dumpster fire called Thor Love and Thunder.
If thanos was introduced in captain Marvel movie I would have said the same thing for Thanos 😭😂💀
Lol he was mid at best
@@skychieftain which is, sadly, still above other actors performance in the movie (at least that's how I feel)
@@hafirenggayuda well you have a point
I had similar feelings about this movie. I was really disappointed that the movie didn’t really focus on the loss of time between father and daughter I.e Scott and Cassie. I thought this could have been great way to show how much Scott has missed being a father and wanted to get back the lost time he didn’t get to spend with Cassie. Like did he miss her high school graduation or anything?Real missed opportunity.
You want Scott to end up endangering the multiverse cause he really hated that he missed 5 years with Cassie?
@@racool911 if wanda can do it with her fake children, Tony + bruce can do it with ultron, and dr Strange can do it to "protect" spiderman, then yes?? especially when it fits scott SO MUCH more and it's what they've been trying to build to all this time. his character is not a walking quip machine to serve marvel's comedy quota or an annoying narsacistic celebrity who doesn't care about issues. he's an ex con who lost way more time than just the blip years with his daughter who would/should do anything to get it back. when kang mentioned it, scott didn't know anything about him yet since the exposition machine (janet) was separated from them, he knew that he was waring with the quantum people that's it. he didn't know kang's past or future intentions just what they can do for eachother, but no scott had to say something dumb, which made kang start threatening them, when he could have just manipulated them in a way to show how scary he actually is highlighting his intellect (which the film did reallyyy bad at) also would have given actual payoff for the "kang, we had a deal" line once he double crosses him, not just keeping cassie which we all knew he would do after the negotiation went violent already lol. moral of the story is if you're going to put it in the trailer as a selling point and then just not do it at all in the film, you better have something better planned NOT what we got..
Cassie was 15 when Scott reappeared. He didn't skip her high school graduation.
I like that the movie ends with Scott being super paranoid and uncomfortable the way Iron Man was after being in space in Avengers. It'd be really cool if they did something with that the way Tony was having panic attacks and just losing it in Iron Man 3 and Age of Ultron.
The movie starts with Scott living a great life, with his daughter a bit disappointed at him for not being an activist. And the movie ends with Scott living a great life with Scott still not being an activist.
I like the part where Scott learns nothing, faces no personal consequences to his own life, doesn’t get conflicted with any ethical choice, does not get to do any sacrifice and gets to continue living his life as if nothing happened.
Also loved the constant amount of Deus ex machina, exposition and plot contrivances scattered all throughout the movie.
10/10 movie. Go watch it!
Yeah that last scene really said “Well this movie was basically pointless but at least we also didn’t really defeat Kang!”
I feel like Scott getting Cassie a birthday cake and saying he missed too many birthdays was a nice emotional button on a different version of the movie where their relationship actually mattered to the rest of the plot… but it certainly meant next to nothing in the version we got!
Actually based
Actually based
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or if it's actually so dumb that it's worth watching
@@LeadHerring Ant-Man movies are framed to be so dumb that they're actually worthless, but they usually can pull it off. Quantumania feels sort of inconsequential.
Cassie being another Stark level genius doing quantum shit in her room and the ant army thing where the worst parts for me.
When ant man said it’s ant manin time and anted all over them I felt that
I quantuhmanianed all over theater
@@heynowur9146😂 thank you you’ve actually made my day. I had a pretty shitty day thank you I genuinely love you commenter ❤ you made me smile 😊 I needed a good chuckle
Seems illogical.
Came here to comment this. We were given no context before that shes this smart, and all of a sudden she can do all the same stuff that took Hank his whole life to research lol. Ok movie. Ok
I remember a time where I was most excited for Doctor Strange 2, Thor 4, Ant-Man 3, and Guardians 3. Please James Gunn, don’t disappoint.
I really hope James Gunn doesn’t fuck this up. EVERYONE thought Taika Waititi was going to cook with Thor 4, then he proceeded to serve us crap
He didn’t
@@Sonic-hq9zz lmao what movie did you watch?
@@captainpancake8177he's talking about James gunn and how he didn't disappoint.
I also noticed no on screen chemistry of Katheryn newton and Paul Rudd. It definitely pulled me out of the movie more than it should have. I think it would have been cool for Kang to bring up the recast as this Cassie being a variant, something along the lines of "Scott, you've been gone so long, you did not even notice...this isn't your timeline." With Kang producing a shot of all the actresses who played his daughter, interspliced with Scott in End Game, showing that the new universe was already created because they DID succeed and the branching timeline scene with Banner and the Ancient one was true and even returning the infinity stones still caused branching timelines.
I think some nods towards the multiverse of madness would have spiced up the bland world that the quantum universe had. Felt like I was watching frickin star wars.
if what you said happened, kang would have been my fav villian for sure
Oooo, that would've been so cool! Sadly we'll have to file this under "youtube comments that had better ideas for the movie than actual Marvel writers".
wait, that’s actually such a great idea, marvel should hire you
@@papercut1724 they wouldnt, because he has a great idea
@@masterofnone-mm8df yeah you’re right
"It may be the worst Bill Murray performance" is a real slap in the face to Ghostbusters: Afterlife.
Garfield?
@@ggt47Garfield two a tale of two kitties 9/10 ign has a little something for everyone
@@WSendam ...What?
@@ggt47 it has a little something for everyone - Ign
@@ggt47 Garfield is a 10/10 masterpiece idk what you're talking about
Saying this was better than the first Ant-Man is insane to me, I definitely liked Quantumania but the first Ant-Man is such a fun story with a lot of heart and some of the coolest action in any MCU movie
100% agree. I actually enjoyed Quantummania, but the first Ant Man was so actually funny, I was actually a tad disappointed this didn't go slightly funnier (not quippy)
yeah idk why Markus said that nor do I think he even believes that
this one is easily the weakest ant man movie
@@mk6rfc1 Nah, the second would be the weakest. This is just slightly better.
@@A_Random_Ghost 2nd one is easily the best
100% agree the most annoying thing ever is when someone refuses to explain things for no reason. Janet (and the quantum realm dwellers) do this constantly, probably to create some kind of tension/mystery but the answers to the mystery are pretty much exactly what you would expect.
This even happens for small things where a normal person might provide like one more sentence. Like before Janet fights the first guy they meet, she just says "let me do the talking" or something without mentioning that they're friends and just going to play-fight. Or when Scott is terrified of the alien language speakers making him drink ooze, Cassie does say "drink the ooze" but could also have explained what it does in two seconds.
Not to mention the opening scene basically tells you what she's hiding. So really it adds zero tension/mystery for the audience, just annoyance.
What I got from the Ooze scene is that Cassie only told him to drink the ooze because that is what the crowd was chanting. So she was just chanting with the crowd.
I’m baffled you gave this movie such a generous score. This was the most soulless and mind numbing entry yet
The whole time I was watching this movie, I had one thought: can this move just fucking be over already
he gave MoM a 7.5.......are you surprised? he gets distracted by marvel dangling keys in front of him.
@@diegokaqui60 He also gave both Deadpool movies a 5.5
@@JustanotherNPC8454he also has called many marvel movies INCLUDING this one bad. Take off your tinfoil hat, he just likes different shit than you.
Ngl i think with marvel he shits all over it (typically pretty fairly) but then is generous with the scores. I think thats fine, im not watching just for a number.
Kang really saved this movie for me, but I still didn't like it very much.
My big issue with Kang, is that I am now attached to THIS Kang. If the idea is to keep switching his variant, eventually I am just going to stop caring. Loki Kang was intriguing as he was a bit fucking cooky, like he really had been all alone dedicated to a mission that no one other than him really understands. Ant man 3 Kang is intimidating and sells the threat of what the Loki variant of Kang was trying to spare the multiverse from. If Kang winds up being a flavour of the week, he is going to be really hard to like.
... But what happens when we get the fucking comic relief dumbass Kang variant that we KNOW is coming because the MCU cannot help themselves.
The Kang from this movie is 100% not dead. He is Kang the Conqueror and there is only one of him. I think Scarlet Centurion, Immortus, Rama Tut, and Kang the Conqueror are going to be the important ones and all of the others are just fodder.
Oh and by the way in the comics the council of Kang actually exiles Kangaroo the Conqueror who is a variant of kang thats a Kangaroo. So making comic relief dumbass Kangs is called respecting the source material. If someone watchs a comic book movie they cant get mad at it for being like a comic book.
I mean they essentially did that with Thanos. In Endgame he had no connection to almost any of the people he fought. AND we never got the Hulk rematch in any way.
They rushed Kang WAY too quick. Remember it took a literal decade to build up to Thanos and now right off the bat of Phase 5 we're immediately introduced to a multitude of Kangs watering down what development and build up of the character we could've had. Hard to get attached when we know already there's a billion of them already. I'm not asking for another 10 years or anything but c'mon man.
they should've went for doom instead of kang. doom is a superior character in every way
We wuz kangz...
The multiple kangs isn't really as threatening a villain as marvel wants it to be right now. But Deadpool style of Kang is probably coming at some point like you said marvel can't help themselves.
Modok should have been the main villain for this movie considering he is retconned to be yellow jacket, using him as kangs henchmen is fine but the way it was done was a pathetic joke. As a main villain he could have been beaten by the lang gang while still making Kang look strong for avengers Kang bang or is it dynasty.. who cares at this point it will just be a cheap infinity wars rip off since I have zero faith in Hollywood coming up with creative ideas or storylines anymore. It's always lather rinse repeat the same stuff over and over again.
Marvel has a few problems, one is the joking and another is not building up a credible threat in a villain by having a MCU with no real threat of death, the good guys always win, nobody really dies, and everything is supposed to be tied together
Wow, from almost giving it a 2/10 to bumping it to a 5/10 almost solely off of Jonathan Majors almost makes me want to see the movie
I gave it a 2/10 and that 2 is soley for majors. Carried the entire and I mean ENTIRE film on his back
People are overhyping his performance, like he’s good but the movie is still dogshit so it doesn’t even make a difference
It’s at least a 7/10 based on Kang, idk why people are giving it such low ratings, it’s actually good
@@danoreilly2985 I agree. They nailed a lot of his mannerisms and dialogue, and Majors is great in the role but that can only go so far when the rest of the movie is garbage. Kang deserved to be in a better movie
Appropriately lower your expectations, but Majors is really really good in this
Also Cassie's original actress was cut last minute. Which is unfortunate cause its said that she had a hand in the design of the uniform and other stuff. Could explain why there's not much chemistry between the actors
Why was she even recast 😭?? The og actress was so much better tbh. At least with the chemistry imo. She made a better impact in the 5 minutes she was on screen in like one movie
Ant-Man 1 is still by far my favorite of the 3 they’ve done.
It’s like to opposite of guardians franchise where they get better with each entry the Ant man movies get worse
The old Cassie actor had more chemistry with Paul Rudd in Endgame, and they only had one scene together
Also the og Cassie just had such fantastic chemistry, I was immediately sad when I realised she'd aged out the role
Which is funny as it is sad. She also seems younger and more immature.
She didn’t even know she wasn’t in the movie until we the audience learned they recasted her.
@@bloke1330 I meant the really young actress from Ant Man 1 & 2
@Edward Vincent Laybourn Waller TWENTY EIGHT??? isn't cassie supposed to be a teenager???
Kang is like poochie in this movie. Every time he’s not on screen, everyone’s asking “where’s kang?”
The scenes with Kang are the only scenes in the movie where I wasn't counting down the minutes until the movie is over.
Jonathon Majors makes me like everything he’s in, his performances are just always so good. I’d highly recommend Lovecraft Country for anyone that hasn’t see it yet, that was my first introduction to him
I'm like that with Giancarlo Esposito. Even if he's in something that's complete garbage, he at least makes it watchable. That's a sign of a great actor. If they can make you enjoy something that you otherwise wouldn't, they got it.
The first thing I saw him in was Da 5 Bloods.
Love how I was waiting to see Marcus review this so I can see what he thinks of modok and just for him to not even acknowledge his presence in the movie itself
Majors killed it in this role. Kang is so menacing in this film, and I really can’t wait to see what he has to bring for Kang Dynasty
The only thing he lacked was two scythes and a signature whistle
Bro what! He sucked major ass as Kang
@@-Scrapper- also funny how the best thing they could come up with for 30th century technology was like normal laser beams and a force field. Which already exist in the mcu
Kang wasn’t menacing at all 😂
@@StillTendo disagree, him losing to antman did kill a lot of that menace though I’ll give ya that
Disney mathematically predicted how good this movie will be as well as MODOK mathematically predicted how good he is at fighting
At least he died a Avenger... 😬🤔🤨😤🤯😶
The most frustrating part of Janet withholding the truth. Is the fact that the audience knows Kang. From the trailer and from Loki. Everyone refers to him as “Him” but we know exactly who he is.
I genuinely don't remember anything about Detective Pikachu, so my only thoughts about Kathryn Newton come from the Blumhouse horror-comedy "Freaky", in which she actually excelled. Most of the movie she was a serial killer in a teenage girl's body, and she was a blast to watch on screen. I wish the quality of her performance in that awesome movie transfered at least somewhat to this one.
She’s also in Three Billboards, and was pretty solid in that
Another 2 hours of McDonald's cinema. It plays it safe on every level. I got to give it to kang though that actor is amazing watching Lovecraft country just because of him
Very nice now let’s see Ronald’s McDonald’s Morbisus
I'm going to start using the phrase "Mcdonald's Cinema." Thanks for sharing.
Ok I’mma steal that shit, that’s a good one
@@jackgirard7289 McDonald's Cinematic Universe
Hey Marcus, I’ve been watching your videos for a while now and I’m not sure if this is something you have control over, but quite a few of your videos don’t have closed captions as an option, and I like watching your videos with my little sister who is deaf, but she can’t watch them without captions. Just wondering if that’s something that could be added to your videos in the future? All love and support though
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So kind of you
please let marcus read this
Boosting for our deaf friends!
Jonathan majors is my new favorite actor. Every role he plays is just perfectly executed.
Bro are you stupid? The dude is C grade at best
@@bperez003 I'm actually a genius, and he is certainly an A+.
@@bjf5027for sure an A+ for domestic abuse
@@kachow2461 that's a positive if you ask me. Finally a real man to put a woman in her place.
They really dropped the ball on the ending of the film.
This is how I would've done it. Have Scott walking down the street all happy and jokey and then have him remember Kang's words and start to freak out and then cut to the Council of Kangs planning their next step. Imagine how ominous and tense that could've been to help get people excited for the story of this saga.
Also, the idea that Scott would be able to beat Kang with an army of ants is laughable. This is a guy who's wrecked entire Avengers teams before. In one case it pretty much took the whole planet to fight him off and that didn't even defeat him, it just drove him away.
This would be like Thanos getting beaten up Rocket in GOTG 1 and then expect him to be scary in Infinity War.
Ants kill more humans then sharks.
@@LANDBACKbyANYmeans And? Kang has taken out whole armies of Avengers on his own before.
@@StephenLeGresley You greatly underestimate the ant family. Hank Pym has also taken out the avengers. Regular size ants kill more humans then sharks.
In the comics the Ant-man is right up there with Iron-man and Cap. He is a very powerful character and the MCU characters are no different. They are consistently shown to be highly capable.
In Civil war Scott carries Team Cap at the Airport holding his own against BP, SM, IM,WM, and BW. Only Vision gives him problems and like; Vision is OP.
@@StephenLeGresley But more importantly like you Kang over estimates himself constantly. That is why he got trapped; that is how he failed to kill Janet and escape; That is why he loses in the end... Because he thinks he is better then everyone else. You are criticizing the movie for its accurate characterization. For comic book accuracy.
In the comics Kang loses all the time. His whole thing is the fact that he is just one of an INFINATE amount of Kangs. An endless army of time traveling super genius madmen from the future.
Also trapped in the QR he has lost his greatest weapon; his ability to go back in time. He is trapped in time meaning he can not go back and correct his mistakes.
@@StephenLeGresley More importantly now you want to see Kang more then ever to see how they correct what you wrongfully view as an error in characterization. You know he is going to become more and more of a threat and want to see what he does.
This entire movie felt like SpyKids mixed with Star Wars
I don't know how else to explain it.
Money 💴 💰💸💸💵💶💷💴🤑🤑💰💰💰💰💰💰 the way I can describe this movie is money 💰$$$$$$ 💲
The bad parts of both
My friends aren’t hardcore MCU fans, (They don’t read comics or watch the shows) but after watching this movie, they all thought Kang was the most interesting villain they’ve seen in a while.
Non-hardcore MCU fans went to see this movie? That's crazy. I feel bad for them.
Me and my friends also went and while I’m the crazy marvel nut they’re just casual movie goers who just want to have a good time. We left and they thought it was fun + got them excited for Kang in the future. Some people are easier to please than others
I was a hardcore MCU fan. I didn't find Kang interesting.
Just to add in even more variety into the mix here, I'm a hardcore MCU fan AND I liked the movie.
I still agree with the general sentiment that the MCU's been declining in quality though. Thor 4 might be my alltime least favorite MCU project
Not a hardcore fan but He is one of the worst villains I've seen a while more I think about it, I like him even less and less
I love the thumbnail. I thought it was for something Metroid related as it kind of looks like Samus. Wonderful work with these quickies. When I watched the movie I was confused because for a lot of it, they don't seem to use perspective properly to show the difference in size for a lot of things.
I completely agree with you that the movie dragged on for too long without addressing the issue of Kang, and that it didnt make sense for Pfeiffers character to withhold information about him from Wasp and Hank once they were already in his territory.
A friend and I talk about the plot of the movie with Pfeiffer not telling everyone what is happening, and we came with one conclusion, if everything was " She don't want to tell everyone, because know everyone is gonna jump into action, and she saw all the Lines of Time with Kang killing all the different Avengers, Scott, Hank and Hope, it could have more sense"
i just felt it was part of her ptsd
shes too ashamed that she helped kang rise to power and countless died cause of it
@@mk6rfc1makes no sense
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For me the biggest problem with the new MCU is that Endgame felt like the finale
It is literally called "endgame" and then they expected people to still care. They should have called it Infinity War 1 and Infinity War 2 or something to that effect
I watched this movie high as hell in an almost empty theatre. I can confidently say I enjoyed the colours, they scratched my brain.
I liked it, it was fun and kang was all I wanted really 6.5/10
I agree, the script sucked but everyone else was fine or great. Scott and Hope were great in this movie. I think if they ended the film with Scoot and Hope stuck in the quantum realm would have been the perfect ending, and would have been perfect with the character development for Scott.
I'm tired of MCU movies being just "fun". I want actual good movies that are high quality like the Winter Soldier
@@Karlach_ Ironically, winter soldier is well made but also the least fun of the Marvell filmsa d I really don’t want this movie’s performance to make marvel shy away from the weird cuz the bland winter soldier movie got the best reviewss
Wow. Another "fun" MCU movie. Great...
@@poeschmoe6499 Well every opinion is valid, even the wrong ones like yours
I felt that Michelle Pfeiffer did a really good job despite the CGI/green screen (which lowers the bar of everyone, as you mentioned). Her monologue in the ship when she finally reveals what happened was emotion-packed - not Angela Basset level, but still good.
Also Kang literally says that the other versions of him exiled him because he was a conqueror (which saw examples in flashbacks), and he wants to escape to get revenge - but also because they’ll need him as a necessary evil for “how it ends.” He was def the best part of the movie.
Liked the Jet Set radio music in the background for the manscaped ad bro
5/10 is very, very generous my dude. The acting was like an indie-film.
It's a Star Wars movie that properly introduces Kang as a threat. The end credits start to show who he really is (kind of like Thanos going to gather the stones himself)
Wow I can’t believe Anakin revealed he was actually Spider-Man’s father all along
Properly introduces him as a threat? He got beat by Antman and dumb writing lmao. It’s just not a very threatening intro imo.
@@calebsalazar5268 Kang is not one person, he's all of his variants. Think of this as a low level Kang
@@kylespevak6781 no i know, but if we want to hype up a variant of our future villan, let’s not make him THAT weak yk.
i wish he couldve came off more imposing, which in turn would make his variants that much more of a threat.
The first 30 minutes of the movie was so hard to get through 😂😂😂
I almost walked out the theater when Cassie told Modok just don't be a d!ck and that solved his entire arc
@@cmath6454 oh no…it’s the “You gotta do better Senator!” curse
@@fr0ck360 Not even close, at least with Cassie and Modok, it's meant to be humorous (as is Modok in general in this movie).
The Senator speech was so awful entirely because a) within the movie Sam was 100% serious and b) outside the movie, you could tell the director wanted the audience to take it as seriously.
Like come on, Modok dies caressing Scott's face with his baby arm thinking he's the dude's sworn brother and an honorary Avenger and the second he dies, the entire family just turns around and goes back to focusing on what's actually important.
So much potential, I feel like an Ant Man story arc could have easily been a transport to telling a story you can't get away with in the marvel universe so it sucks to see it constantly squandered
everytime he does an ad i find myself watching it all because he sells it in such a way it feels entertaining like a good super bowl ad or something
I give it a 7/10 for the vibe and Jonathan Majors!
I agree! I give it a 7.5/10.
“The vibe” what a very insightful criticism, thanks for contributing.
"For the vibe" seems like a proper and incomprehensible praise for an MCU fan
It was crap but it passed the vibe check hahaha
@@murdockfiles9406 all the cinema nerds nut over A24 movies "for the vibe". Let's not be pretentious
This video has been a great manscaped add. Cosmonaut, you've done it again 👏
the art for the thumbnail he used is actually dope as hell
They did explain what Kang wants but it was like one line which I think they did on purpose to hide it from most audiences
spoiler
He said he needed to destroy timelines because they keep growing and they're crashing into each other, the word he used was "incursions" which is a very loaded word in the marvel universe
Oh golly that's how they're bringing in the X-men isn't it
@@alepenagorbe9135You might just be right
Also, I’m kind of surprised that you guys didn’t mention, but that word was also set in Doctor Strange at the end when he meets the girl with white hair
This movie was all over the place. It’s so painfully obvious that they needed to cut lots of stuff during the editing process. It felt rushed and poorly cut together. A weird mix of other franchises without a proper identity.
For me the biggest problem with this movie was the ending. The rest of the movie was fine to enjoyable but the ending just really dragged it down for me. The two things I think needed to happen to properly set up the stakes of Kang in Phases five and six was that Scott needed to die and Kang needed to win. Marvel needs to prove to us why we should be scared for the heroes when they fight Kang and as it is, they have done a terrible job with that. Kang was literally beaten up by a bunch of ants (yes I know they were sci fi advanced ants or whatever but it doesn't make it any less dumb) and Ant-Man who, not to diss him, is on the lower end of the power spectrum. If Ant-man can beat this Kang that made all the other Kangs so afraid then why should we be worried at all when he fights against heros like Doctor Strange and Thor?
killing off paul rudd would have been kinda dumb though, i've never understood people wanting this
@Julianjulesr1361Yeah and they made it worst.
The correct move was to kill off Cassie and send Scott into a dark place where he levels up his power usage, showing how terrifying and powerful he could be.
@@MuskyPickle I don't think necessarily killing her off would've been good but something more akin to her being captured again by kang and him getting away. The entire movie they tried to show us how much scot cared about her and trying to find his purpose after the events of endgame. Having kang win would show why the other kangs wanted him exiled and wouldve given Antman a new motive other than just being a... good guy?
Agreed. Or at least zap antman into the void or something. Make us, the audience, feel that our heroes can actually die or be removed and it builds suspense for what the Kangs can really do.
Terrible ending honestly
As a layman I'm pretty sold by Kang, however, the whole council of Kang thing also looks like a "we are too lazy to create more villains so here's one guy who'll be doing all the jobs from here on out" kinda thing.
“I don’t have time to explain why i don’t have time to explain” in a nutshell 😅
Ant-Man & The Wasp: Quantumania is basically Spy Kids or Shark Boy & Lava Girl with better CGI. Interpret that as you will.
This movie doesn't touch Spy Kids
And yet spy kids was a better move lol
one is a timeless classic everyone loves and the other is antman 3
Literally Spy kids 5
Your cat almost bapping the shaver made my day a good one, thank you
When the ad is like 20% of the entire video and is also directly up in front.
A few things.
1. Kang is not nearly as threatening as he should be, he is called the conqueror , basically a time lord of infinite universes and we are constantly told why he is so great and intimidating rather than actually showing how and why he is feared. He should not be defeated by antman or his squad by any fluke or marvel nonsense. He says he is an avenger killer yet he gets beaten by ants and somehow gets remotely hit by antman in a 1v1 fist fight. Frankly I wouldve loved if he just systemically killed the antman crew and it was revealed that it was a different universe, that way it shows how much of threat Kang is and it allows the antman crew to come back with no issues.
2.Cassie simply cannot act, there was a certain point when it legitemately felt like I was watching a spykids movie. I'm not trying to be funny , the suits and the scene where she tells MODOK to stop being a dick.
3. Johnathan Majors was phenomenal.
4. There is too much time spent on weird family drama, I completely dead world that completely doesn't matter , its just a random world. This movie should've been focused on Kang.
I felt like it didn't know what tone it wanted to set, they went from super dark to super lights and funny. I didn't mind Kathryn as Cassie going into it, but she was better than I was expecting (I did like her in Big Little Lies but I wanted the other girl from Endgame to play Cassie)
Always quickies man. I want more marky
The worst thing about bad edits is everyone KNOWS deep down that the flow is off. even if you can't explain it you can feel it. We've all accumulated enough visual mediums to understand how satisfying a well thought out and unnoticeable edit can do to a film.
Nothing brings more joy than seeing that the cat doesnt understand razors
7:41 I personally would love to see this video, I’ve been feeling the same way about the MCU lately and I wanna hear your thoughts on all of it. What they should do now, what they could have done better post-endgame to start this new chapter, what’s going wrong and why, and where you think it’s headed both if they continue like this or if they improve the quality. Id personally wanna hear your thoughts about the whole 4 movies & 4 shows a year plan and what it’s doing to movies/tv in general (both good and bad).
Manscaped is an appropriate sponsor because this movie is balls
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Jonathan Majors is the only reason I’m even watching the MCU at this point.
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Him and Loki.
At this point I'm more invested in waiting for what you have to say about superhero movies than the movies themselves
Gotta say your Manscape sposorship ad is the best I ve seen yet. Cause cute cats make everything better.
I can confirm that Catherine Newton is actually a very talented actress after seeing this year's "Lisa Frankenstein". That movie slaps and she slaps in it
The biggest problem with the movie is honestly how one of the title characters is hardly in it. Wasp gets like two cool scenes and in both it’s her showing up at the last second to help Antman.
Knowing that the entire third act was reshot a month before the movies release makes me think her scenes were on the biggest changes they made. That they realized she didn't have anything to do so they needed to give her a few badass scenes.
I really wish they kept hope and Scott in the quantum realm at the end and didn't zap them up. At least then there is a heroes sacrifice of some sort and Cassie has a plot point for the next movie to get her family back.
The first half of film felt so much like star wars, when Kang showed his telekinesis, the person beside me said "he is using the force now ?"
6:35 yeah, exactly, that's a must. Especially when we're going to literally see _a lot of him_ and probably watch him have important deaths at least six more times
I was going to skip past the sponsored section, but I had to watch the few seconds with the cat.
I disagree, Marcus. I mean, yeah, ant man helps to steal the thing in that one scene, but besides that the entire movie is much more centered around Kang and Jennet's relationship than anything else. They move the story forward, they have a history together and an emotional connection. Scott is mostly there hanging around, not getting what's happening around him and punching things. He doesn't get a character arc or anything, the movie literally ends just like it stated for him. But hey, just my opinion
I agree with 5/10. I saw it a second time and it was a lot better. Like, I think the ships relied on harnessed electrons to get around? That's super cool.
They had some neat micro-world stuff. Probably should have leaned more into that instead of using a villain they weren't going to get to finish with.
"the model is small, they won't be able to tell" 2:40 lmao
I'm digging the Jet Set Radio bed music
The ending pissed me off
*Spoilers, obviously
There was absolutely no reason Kang should have lost that fight besides plot. I think they made him too powerful in the scenes hyping his power up, and then were like “Oh shit, how do we make him lose?” And then just nerfed him. Made me mad. Though, obviously, he’s not actually dead.
I like how everyone is a super genius scientist or doctor. It's funny to see this trope play out in every movie and tv series.
See, I like they kept Scott lang as an every day man. But, Cassie becoming a teen genius solving quantum realm mysteries before the blip, literally saying the line " I was going to get you out of the quantum realm no matter what" when the only reason Hank came back to help her with the device was because he came back? So...she became a teen genius? How? She never, ever displayed any ounce of that when she was a child.
And in endgame, sure...that version of Cassie didn't get any lines but they could have set her up as a teen genius by helping the hulk and them try to solve for time travel as a teen. At leas then, we as the audience, would know where and how she got inspired to learn more about the quantum realm to get to a point to build a teleportation device.
Or at least if the actress portraying Cassie had some maturity.. but she didn't have that portrayel still acting like a young teen but also teen genius. Like the only fast forward child to teen genius I can believe is going to be Morgan because at least the resources, notes and genius hereditary traits are all there with a generation of starks. That's been established. But, Scott Lang isn't related to the pyms nor hope. So, there is nothing to establish that Cassie would become a teen genius to solve for quantum realm teleportstion when even Janet couldn't figure it out (or didn't want to). And if it was that easy, then the entire plot of antman 2 wasn't needed. Just build a little teleportation device and beam Janet up. It's very, very contrived
This movie doesn't make sense if you stop and think about half of the plot. However, the most annoying part was seeing Kang be so powerful when he's introduced only for him to watch his own base be destroyed, jump down and just shoot people one at a time, then refuse to get into the portal to punch scott more. Him losing to these incredibly intelligent ants by being run over by them was soo underwhelming. What's the point of Kang or the ants being "intelligent" if he just gets run over by them like a car accident. For a guy who's sole goal was to leave the quantum realm, he really did everything he could to NOT leave.
Majors performance was great, but if we're supposed to believe he's this intelligent being from the future, the writers need to actually be smart enough to write him. Kang didn't do clever or intelligent things. He had magic future technology and then he fought people after his stuff gets destroyed.
I loved how Kang (a guy who's said multiple times that he killed multiple universes of avengers plus conquered multiple others) gets beaten in the end by the most irrelevant of the avengers
Why so mean to Darren?
@@LANDBACKbyANYmeanslmao
@@LANDBACKbyANYmeans lmao took me a while that one
It’s annoying how some people expect MODOK to not be MODOK
I had a good time in this movie and I would give it a 7/10 I didnt like a lot of the supporting cast but Kang is him and he is a monster Jonathan majors is taking over Hollywood and I now see why he is really good at his job but overall I'm excited to see what happens next this is just the beginning and can't wait for guardians of the Galaxy vol 3
I saw this movie in 2010. It was named TRON: Legacy
That thumbnail is FIRE
I think this is another one I'll watch on Disney Plus. Glad to hear Kang is good, He Who Remains was interesting but we saw so little of him it's difficult to get a picture (and according to Majors the two characters are incredibly different anyway). Considering he is the only part of the movie that actually matters, it's good to hear they got that right.
I do think the ball was dropped on making Kang really scary. This Kang variant was the one who was so terrifying the council of ricks I mean Kangs banished him. And then he prepped a whole army that he intended to use to destroy worlds. And then team Antman wrecked his army, undermined his plan, and at a minimum essentially banished him from the quantum realm. That doesn’t really do much to establish him as the next “big” threat.
This Kang isn't the real threat though. That's kind of the point.
Not really. This Kang was meant to be so intense to the entire council of Kangs that he was exiled and potentially the one who become he who remains / tames alioth.
If he's not that, then...why bother? Strip him of his tech and then he's just a man that the other kangs can control
I think this film could have done with a rewrite to involve the side characters (scenes showing them missing Scott and Cassie, trying to get them back would have done it) and set some higher stakes (again more scenes on the surface might have helped us fear Kang getting out) and especially the heist aspect. It could have actually worked if Hank and Janet were left behind as she has all the knowledge of Kang so when Scott and Hope (much earlier in the film than we actually saw) agree to help him steal the thing Janet had hidden away there’s more intrinsic drama. Similarly we can see the characters left on the surface start to fall out and argue amongst themselves for more drama. Hope could feel more involved especially as she can solve clues Janet may have left behind that Scott alone could not because he doesn’t have that relationship with Janet.
Also not sure how I feel about Scott only helping Kang because he was blackmailed, I think I would have preferred it if he made a genuinely selfish decision (as the trailers gave the impression, that can’t have just been me?) because Kang offered him time with his daughter. While Cassie is helping the rebels he is working to release Kang until he realises his mistake and joins the fight against Kang giving up his selfish desire and just deciding to help these people and accept that he needs to make the most of the time he does have with Cassie and the rest of his family
But what we got was fine too I suppose
I’ve never seen a singular actor carry an ENTIRE movie by himself quite like Jonathan Majors did here.
He was the best part yes, but he didn't carry the movie. The other characters were interesting to and cosmunaut and everyone else are being way too harsh on this movie and phase 4.
@@liplip-yr8vx nah that shit sucked but I appreciate your positivity
@@joyajohnson2216 in your opinion sure
I'm surprised more people aren't talking about how little the Wasp actually does in this movie, even though the movie is called Ant Man AND THE WASP
I mean they have to shoehorn her name in so the woke folks can shut up about woke shit, even if her role is literally one scene
@@ShadoryKaine You are both feminists and it is so cute.
@@LANDBACKbyANYmeans wot how so care to elaborate
@@ShadoryKaine even if her role is literally one scene
8:02 was some Fant4stic level shit.
Made me laugh way harder than it should have