And also for EVERYONE who is planning to get OneXGpu regardles of the comments. Its said on EVERY forum that 2 Magnets on the bottom that are CLOSER to Fan Has to be forcefully removed. Otherwise they will develop a " coil whine " very fast and will destroy the unit over time. Font worry, there are total of 4 magnets there so even with 2 magnets left SSD enclosure will be held in place - " ok".
This review needs some more work. Having both units. Few things are missing: - OneXPlayer cant output 4k 120hz via hdmi it needs displayport dongle, GPD G1 has only HDMI 2.0, revised GPD G1 should have HDMI 2.1 - GPD G1 has massive stability issues with 120W bios using with Legion Go so the stock is 100W. It is unclear which bios was used testing. - GPD G1 has massive issues with outputting enough wattage Legion Go will throttle down if it is not plugged in. This is why they are releasing revised version of GPD G1. - I also noticed that GPD G1 has more frame stability issues. Wattage fluctuates via usb 4. - OneXGPU is louder than GPD G1 but GPD G1 is unstable at 120W. The chips are the same, the difference is power management, throttling, software and cooling.
Did you mean NVME performance on the ONEXGPU? If so we tried a couple of older SSDs (we have got any new ones at the moment) on the ONEXGPU and AYANEO Slide via USB and got around 522MB/s on them.
Both devices were using 100W for the benchmarks to keep it fair. We mention the fan noise, heat and power usage towards the end of the tech specs. In comparison the G1 was around 63db so relatively quieter than the 72 on ONEXGPU, we have not tested thermals or power usage on the G1 but will likely do that on the new model when we review it.
@@jimpaolo123 I talk about it a little at the end the pros and cons of each. Personally I (Dave) prefer the G1 as it is a bit more portable with the power supply being integrated, I have taken this one home in the past. But honestly I alternate between using both and there is not much difference. Both are great and it comes mainly down to preference.
Great comparison. I was looking for exactly this. Also good to see user comments on real world experiences, like heat and stability issues, which may only be discoverable over time.
Yeah the fan noise is very loud. I think with some tweaks to the fan settings, OXP could lower the fan speed versus the temperature. and only have it going full whack when required.
To be fair, 2TB should definitely last you at least 2 Call of Duty's :) On a more serious note, I struggle to fill up 1TB (Get a game -> Finish -> Delete) -CS
@@DroiX_Store i only keep certain games on the win mini anyway, mostly stuff i can play mobile while wearing a pair of glasses so i can see WTF is going on. the G1 does double duty though i have a rizen9 mini pc it hooks up to as well when i need it. mostly though i find the two systems perform adequately without it.
I'm getting absolutely trash framerates with the GPD G1 on my Lenovo Legion Go on the LeGo's screen. It runs just fine on an external display, but I don't think the framerate on the LeGo's display are supposed to be around 2FPS. Any tips on what I might need to do to fix this?
We mention this in the video a little. If you are using an external monitor rather than internal, the data is travelling mostly one way i.e. HANDHELD > USB TO ONEXGPU > HDMI TO MONITOR. If you are using internal display, the data is going HANDHELD > USB TO ONEXGPU > USB BACK TO HANDHELD. So the traffic on internal display is going both ways on the USB which causes a bottleneck. It should not cause games to run at 2FPS if they are OK on external monitor. I would first check that the correct GPU is being used. Go into the games settings and check if there is a setting to change the GPU. It can vary between games, some it will be GPU, some will be Display etc. Try changing that and see if it resolves the issue.
@@DroiX_Store Thanks for the reply. It was something totally weird and random. In device manager, the Legion Go's GPU wasn't displaying the 780M like I see in some other youtube channels. I had to manually reinstall the driver in a non-standard way to get it to finally work.
I was gonna say you should loose about 10-20% running on internal screen, but it should still give you at least 2x performance than the z1 extremes gpu
I have huge issues with the noise of the G1. If I do not use the turbo mods on the OneXGPU, how loud will it get? I am speaking of 1080p/60fps gaming here, not running the GPU at its max performance.
Repaste your G1 with Gelid Thermal Pads and PTM 7950. It will massively reduce the noise and max out temps ~ 67C. I use 120W bios on Occulink and it is much quieter than 100W bios and factory paste job.
In terms of performance the 2024 should be exactly the same as the original model, so you can use this video for reference. The G1 2024 model has a switch to change between the lower power 60W and 100W original power. This will make the fans a little quieter. It also has improved HDMI video output.
Personally I (Dave) would choose the GPD G1. The performance is the same but I like the smaller overall portability of the G1 compared to the ONEXGPU. The ONEXGPU power supply is massive!
@@DroiX_Store That is certainly true the Power supply is large, which is a disadvantage I would like to buy the g1, do you happen to have a discount code on your website?
The laptop will need to have a USB 4 port to use one. Ideally for best performance it should have an OCuLink port, but fewer commercial laptops have this. Check your laptop manual or tech specs to see if it has USB 4.
For the benchmarks, we test many different devices from different generations so we have a base line to compare them with over different generation to show the increases. Some less advanced devices are not able to run at higher resolutions and graphics settings. This is why we later show games running at their best settings on the reviewed devices, in this video it is in the Final Thoughts part.
Hey, which one you think would be better for an ROG FLOW Z13?, i want some extra power in certain games, especially because the rtx3050ti in it its limited to only 40w and some AAA games run only at low settings.
According to benchmarks the 7600M is around 15% faster than the 305Ti. But once you factor in its USB and not Oculink connection you will loose some performance here. It can vary between game but overall I don't think you would see a massive increase in performance.
I would like a gpd g1 with an ethernet port I really don't need the storage on onexgpu and really dislike the power adapter but it has the ethernet which i need
yeah, its more bandwidth than USB 4 cables so you get the best connection possible with compatible devices. more info at droix.net/blogs/oculink-transforming-graphics-card-connectivity/
Can you test for this issue? Device overheats itself on Oculink when PC is not on. I don't know if I have a defective unit or its a design flaw. Its an easy miss though if you are not paying attention. th-cam.com/video/PLmXxL5esmM/w-d-xo.html
When you switch off the GPD, the ONEXGPU is still switched on (RGB LED still on). My guess is it charging the GPD battery. Try switching the ONEXGPU off with the button on the side and see if the heat changes.
@@DroiX_Store Seems to happen no matter the case if oculink is plugged in and the host is not on. I have to remember to unplug oculink when I have used it. USB4 works exactly as expected. It also occurs if the usb4 is not plugged in and just the oculink is, which would not attempt to charge the GPD.
I had a bit of time this morning to recreate the issue you reported. I can confirm that while Oculink and USB are connected and the for example Win MAX 2 is connected and switched off, there is still a considerable power draw up to around 28W. We thought it might be where its charging the device but once it was fully charged the power draw remains. We left it for a while and the temperature was a high as 77 degrees C which is very hot to touch, we stopped there in case there was any damage. We have provided the information and a thermal camera video of the issue and sent it to ONEXPLAYER for further advice. We will keep you updated here. It might also be worth you to contact OXP as well as it could be a wider issue.
external power supply makes onexgpu completely useless and not portable at all. much more weight and volume taken. This product is made for being portable. so i use it in trips so i can pack my PC to backpack and have a hand cabin luggage available to pick up in plane. so onexgpu is making everything useless. its not so portable and easy. by the size of onexgpu better buy standalone dock like Minisforum DEG1 for normal sized graphic card to use at home then.
THE ONEXGPU and G1 eGPU are designed with portability in mind, and are smaller than the DEG1. You don't have to take the eGPU with you, it's there as an option. I have taken both a gaming handheld and eGPU in a bag and had no issues with the weight, yes it will be heavier but more convenient than carrying a full-sized GPU. Also the ONEXGPU and G1 are enclosed GPU which means it wont get as much dust as the DEG1.
After 2 years of losing nerves got only one rules. No eGPUs at all! It's a trash in general. Are you a game?r Buy proper PC, better laptop or console. For me there is no more room for any discussion.
Bought the G1, its garbage and unreliable. It works so well and then it decides to not work at all. Its a shame as i bought it to compliment my Win 4. Safe to say i will be selling both devices as GPD products are unreliable.
@arthurdurham yeah. GPD is the only one in this space taking on producing small and full sized laptops with the win max line and their new duo line. The others are nowhere being serious laptop manufacturers, while GPD in Asia is slowly but surely becoming a household name, at least in the higher end of the space.
@arthurdurham yeah. GPD is the only one in this space taking on producing small and full sized laptops with the win max line and their new duo line. The others are nowhere being serious laptop manufacturers, while GPD in Asia is slowly but surely becoming a household name, at least in the higher end of the space.
This will flop massively. There is no explanation to what this is for newbs and how to use it and what its actual purpose is. Along with the accent which makes them sound a bit ‘simple’ it would be beneficial to illustrate ‘what this fun tech is all about’, connectivity, requirements etc. 👍🏻
It is a niche market. You have to know what a GPU is to understand what an EGPU brings to the table. In short, increases graphical processing power. i.e. video games play better.
You will flop massively. It's impossible for these to flop massively because it's a niche product and is manufactured in limited quantities with high mark-up. It's not for you, who has no grasp of basic economics or thinks that the company behind this actually sells this to "news."
Wait, Im a newbs so please tell me what is the risk here? I mean, I need a egpu in order to play games on my laptop - is rather simple plug and play no?
There is gameplay footage along with the details of graphics settings used after the benchmarks. Also check our youtube shorts for some videos of games running on the ONEXGPU
And also for EVERYONE who is planning to get OneXGpu regardles of the comments. Its said on EVERY forum that 2 Magnets on the bottom that are CLOSER to Fan Has to be forcefully removed. Otherwise they will develop a " coil whine " very fast and will destroy the unit over time. Font worry, there are total of 4 magnets there so even with 2 magnets left SSD enclosure will be held in place - " ok".
hold up what, why it needs to be removed?
This review needs some more work. Having both units. Few things are missing:
- OneXPlayer cant output 4k 120hz via hdmi it needs displayport dongle, GPD G1 has only HDMI 2.0, revised GPD G1 should have HDMI 2.1
- GPD G1 has massive stability issues with 120W bios using with Legion Go so the stock is 100W. It is unclear which bios was used testing.
- GPD G1 has massive issues with outputting enough wattage Legion Go will throttle down if it is not plugged in. This is why they are releasing revised version of GPD G1.
- I also noticed that GPD G1 has more frame stability issues. Wattage fluctuates via usb 4.
- OneXGPU is louder than GPD G1 but GPD G1 is unstable at 120W.
The chips are the same, the difference is power management, throttling, software and cooling.
I wouldn't mind seeing how the NVME slot performance is on the G1 over USB.
Did you mean NVME performance on the ONEXGPU? If so we tried a couple of older SSDs (we have got any new ones at the moment) on the ONEXGPU and AYANEO Slide via USB and got around 522MB/s on them.
Both devices were using 100W for the benchmarks to keep it fair. We mention the fan noise, heat and power usage towards the end of the tech specs. In comparison the G1 was around 63db so relatively quieter than the 72 on ONEXGPU, we have not tested thermals or power usage on the G1 but will likely do that on the new model when we review it.
So what do you prefer between gpd g1 or onexgpu?
@@jimpaolo123 I talk about it a little at the end the pros and cons of each. Personally I (Dave) prefer the G1 as it is a bit more portable with the power supply being integrated, I have taken this one home in the past. But honestly I alternate between using both and there is not much difference. Both are great and it comes mainly down to preference.
Great comparison. I was looking for exactly this. Also good to see user comments on real world experiences, like heat and stability issues, which may only be discoverable over time.
Yeah the fan noise is very loud. I think with some tweaks to the fan settings, OXP could lower the fan speed versus the temperature. and only have it going full whack when required.
TLDR : Both are within a margin of error and it comes down to ports and G1 is getting a revised design very soon.
With lower wattage sadly 😢
It will still have the original 100W though.
@@DroiX_Store but gpd g1 original can be bios flashed to 120w
there are stability issues with some devices at 120W, we recommend using 100W
G1. That PSU is ridiculous. Hopefully the 18th release date is true.
I'm not sure whether you mentioned it in the video (you probably did), but which eGPU is generally more quiet?
I dont think we measured the fan noise for the G1 but it is quieter than the ONEXGPU.
glad there is not so much difference, i love my g1
Yeah it mainly comes down to choice. Both have advantages and disadvantages in terms of features, design, size etc.
got the G1 cause it's a matching set with my win mini, and since i got the 64gig 2tb win mini the extra ssd wasn't a big deal.
To be fair, 2TB should definitely last you at least 2 Call of Duty's :)
On a more serious note, I struggle to fill up 1TB (Get a game -> Finish -> Delete)
-CS
@@DroiX_Store i only keep certain games on the win mini anyway, mostly stuff i can play mobile while wearing a pair of glasses so i can see WTF is going on. the G1 does double duty though i have a rizen9 mini pc it hooks up to as well when i need it.
mostly though i find the two systems perform adequately without it.
what is the max supported Refresh Rate using both display Ports. Will it work running 165Hz and 240Hz (which are my displays Refresh Rates I have)
I would love to test such a set with a VR headset. Don't you have a loaner for me?😁
Unfortunately not, we only have one. But we could try some VR games on it and do a video.
@@DroiX_Store Great, I would be happy about that.
I've added it to the list of potential videos. Any games in particular you would like for us to check out? Not Beatsaber though, I suck at it! :)
Wanderer, Green Hell, No Man Sky, F1 22 are a good benchmark.@@DroiX_Store
Thanks, will keep those in mind.
I'm getting absolutely trash framerates with the GPD G1 on my Lenovo Legion Go on the LeGo's screen. It runs just fine on an external display, but I don't think the framerate on the LeGo's display are supposed to be around 2FPS. Any tips on what I might need to do to fix this?
We mention this in the video a little. If you are using an external monitor rather than internal, the data is travelling mostly one way i.e. HANDHELD > USB TO ONEXGPU > HDMI TO MONITOR. If you are using internal display, the data is going HANDHELD > USB TO ONEXGPU > USB BACK TO HANDHELD. So the traffic on internal display is going both ways on the USB which causes a bottleneck.
It should not cause games to run at 2FPS if they are OK on external monitor. I would first check that the correct GPU is being used. Go into the games settings and check if there is a setting to change the GPU. It can vary between games, some it will be GPU, some will be Display etc. Try changing that and see if it resolves the issue.
@@DroiX_Store Thanks for the reply. It was something totally weird and random. In device manager, the Legion Go's GPU wasn't displaying the 780M like I see in some other youtube channels. I had to manually reinstall the driver in a non-standard way to get it to finally work.
I was gonna say you should loose about 10-20% running on internal screen, but it should still give you at least 2x performance than the z1 extremes gpu
I have huge issues with the noise of the G1. If I do not use the turbo mods on the OneXGPU, how loud will it get? I am speaking of 1080p/60fps gaming here, not running the GPU at its max performance.
Fan noise is towards the end of tech specs along with thermals and power usage.
Repaste your G1 with Gelid Thermal Pads and PTM 7950. It will massively reduce the noise and max out temps ~ 67C. I use 120W bios on Occulink and it is much quieter than 100W bios and factory paste job.
Which one is better the new Gpd G1 2024 or ONEXGPU
In terms of performance the 2024 should be exactly the same as the original model, so you can use this video for reference. The G1 2024 model has a switch to change between the lower power 60W and 100W original power. This will make the fans a little quieter. It also has improved HDMI video output.
Hi Which one would you recommend the onexplayer with carry case price is €595 or the new gpd G1 2024 for 675€
Personally I (Dave) would choose the GPD G1. The performance is the same but I like the smaller overall portability of the G1 compared to the ONEXGPU. The ONEXGPU power supply is massive!
@@DroiX_Store okay Thank you
@@DroiX_Store That is certainly true the Power supply is large, which is a disadvantage I would like to buy the g1, do you happen to have a discount code on your website?
Hi, can you tell me what size is the pin from the power supply. Is it 5.5mm x 2.5mm?
Yeah that looks about right.
Hello i am new to egpu things. Can i use them with a laptop which has a decent cpu.
The laptop will need to have a USB 4 port to use one. Ideally for best performance it should have an OCuLink port, but fewer commercial laptops have this. Check your laptop manual or tech specs to see if it has USB 4.
But why run games at lowest graphics settings? The point is to show how much you can push them, not how low.
For the benchmarks, we test many different devices from different generations so we have a base line to compare them with over different generation to show the increases. Some less advanced devices are not able to run at higher resolutions and graphics settings. This is why we later show games running at their best settings on the reviewed devices, in this video it is in the Final Thoughts part.
Can it be connected to a PC and do audiovisual editing work?
A desktop PC? Yes you could connect if it has USB 4 port. But you would likely be better off using an internal graphics card.
Hey, which one you think would be better for an ROG FLOW Z13?, i want some extra power in certain games, especially because the rtx3050ti in it its limited to only 40w and some AAA games run only at low settings.
According to benchmarks the 7600M is around 15% faster than the 305Ti. But once you factor in its USB and not Oculink connection you will loose some performance here. It can vary between game but overall I don't think you would see a massive increase in performance.
can i use this with my intel nuc 15 laptop? 11th gen
Does it have a USB 4 port? If so, then yes.
I would like a gpd g1 with an ethernet port
I really don't need the storage on onexgpu and really dislike the power adapter but it has the ethernet which i need
What about the noise? Which is quieter
And what about charging
@@ams_3101 The ONEXGPU was definitely louder than the GPD G1.
So who won?
Not much difference in performance, check the end of the video for my thoughts.
what is oculink is that a type of cable
yeah, its more bandwidth than USB 4 cables so you get the best connection possible with compatible devices. more info at droix.net/blogs/oculink-transforming-graphics-card-connectivity/
Can you test for this issue? Device overheats itself on Oculink when PC is not on. I don't know if I have a defective unit or its a design flaw. Its an easy miss though if you are not paying attention. th-cam.com/video/PLmXxL5esmM/w-d-xo.html
When you switch off the GPD, the ONEXGPU is still switched on (RGB LED still on). My guess is it charging the GPD battery. Try switching the ONEXGPU off with the button on the side and see if the heat changes.
@@DroiX_Store Seems to happen no matter the case if oculink is plugged in and the host is not on. I have to remember to unplug oculink when I have used it. USB4 works exactly as expected. It also occurs if the usb4 is not plugged in and just the oculink is, which would not attempt to charge the GPD.
I had a bit of time this morning to recreate the issue you reported. I can confirm that while Oculink and USB are connected and the for example Win MAX 2 is connected and switched off, there is still a considerable power draw up to around 28W. We thought it might be where its charging the device but once it was fully charged the power draw remains. We left it for a while and the temperature was a high as 77 degrees C which is very hot to touch, we stopped there in case there was any damage. We have provided the information and a thermal camera video of the issue and sent it to ONEXPLAYER for further advice. We will keep you updated here. It might also be worth you to contact OXP as well as it could be a wider issue.
@@DroiX_Storeplease keep update us with this, i just orderer the onexgpu with tu x1 handheld and this seems to be a big issue if not resolved
@@ramontrevino3170 Yeah we will update when we get more information.
external power supply makes onexgpu completely useless and not portable at all. much more weight and volume taken. This product is made for being portable. so i use it in trips so i can pack my PC to backpack and have a hand cabin luggage available to pick up in plane. so onexgpu is making everything useless. its not so portable and easy. by the size of onexgpu better buy standalone dock like Minisforum DEG1 for normal sized graphic card to use at home then.
THE ONEXGPU and G1 eGPU are designed with portability in mind, and are smaller than the DEG1. You don't have to take the eGPU with you, it's there as an option. I have taken both a gaming handheld and eGPU in a bag and had no issues with the weight, yes it will be heavier but more convenient than carrying a full-sized GPU. Also the ONEXGPU and G1 are enclosed GPU which means it wont get as much dust as the DEG1.
After 2 years of losing nerves got only one rules. No eGPUs at all! It's a trash in general. Are you a game?r Buy proper PC, better laptop or console. For me there is no more room for any discussion.
What is trash about them exactly?
Bought the G1, its garbage and unreliable. It works so well and then it decides to not work at all. Its a shame as i bought it to compliment my Win 4. Safe to say i will be selling both devices as GPD products are unreliable.
What was the issue with the G1? We have a guide at droix.net/knowledge-base/article/gpd-g1-egpu-docking-station/ with some troubleshooting etc.
Sounds ridiculous. GPD makes the most reliable products in this space.
Probably OneNote spam comment, they've basically done this whenever they were releasing a competitor product to an existing GPD one
@arthurdurham yeah. GPD is the only one in this space taking on producing small and full sized laptops with the win max line and their new duo line. The others are nowhere being serious laptop manufacturers, while GPD in Asia is slowly but surely becoming a household name, at least in the higher end of the space.
@arthurdurham yeah. GPD is the only one in this space taking on producing small and full sized laptops with the win max line and their new duo line. The others are nowhere being serious laptop manufacturers, while GPD in Asia is slowly but surely becoming a household name, at least in the higher end of the space.
nice but seams very over priced.
For a portable eGPU in a small form factor it is a good price for convenience.
@@DroiX_Store True. But I'm fairly good DIY guy.
This will flop massively. There is no explanation to what this is for newbs and how to use it and what its actual purpose is. Along with the accent which makes them sound a bit ‘simple’ it would be beneficial to illustrate ‘what this fun tech is all about’, connectivity, requirements etc. 👍🏻
If newbs ain't got a clue what a docking station with a gpu does, maybe it ain't for them. Website very clear on whats inside the box.
It is a niche market. You have to know what a GPU is to understand what an EGPU brings to the table. In short, increases graphical processing power. i.e. video games play better.
Look this kind of tech is not really for simpletons like you.
You will flop massively.
It's impossible for these to flop massively because it's a niche product and is manufactured in limited quantities with high mark-up. It's not for you, who has no grasp of basic economics or thinks that the company behind this actually sells this to "news."
Wait, Im a newbs so please tell me what is the risk here? I mean, I need a egpu in order to play games on my laptop - is rather simple plug and play no?
This whole video is just charts but no actual gameplay. Very disappointing. I dont care for charts when i can see the actual use of this gpu
There is gameplay footage along with the details of graphics settings used after the benchmarks. Also check our youtube shorts for some videos of games running on the ONEXGPU