I’ve been programming and running cnc millers/lathes now for around 3 years full time since finishing my apprenticeship in the UK (I’m 24). These videos really help out. I’ve never seen a machine like this before. Keep up the great work! Really appreciate it. Thanks again!
I am always amazed by your very advanced skills and the complexity of your parts and set ups. I am the foreman of a small shop here in CA where we do mostly turning and mill/turning on 2 to 4 axis MAZAK lathes. Thanks for the videos, keep them coming.
I think when you sold to Centerline you kept the most profitable machines for yourself. Also you kept the machines that allow you to do what you really want to do which seems to be high end machine work rather than worrying about P&L statements and who showed up for work today. Your skill as a machinist and as a business owner is impressive. Please keep up the good work.
Geez that machine is so F-N badass. Is there anything it can't do? Seriously? I haven't had a chance to thank you for the probing video yet, I was crunched for time when I watched it and need to go back and watch it again but it did help quite a bit watching you step through it as you did and would love to see more of it when your up to it. Thanks again great post! Really though is there anything that machine is not capable of?
Shotgun Reloader Back when I was a machinist, running without coolant would have been a fireable offence. Too much risk of damaging million-dollar machines! Plus the grinding wheel would probably be ruined and require replacement. Wheel replacement (or merely extensive dressing) would mean downtime and lost money. Also, any parts not scrapped would have grinder burn - which was quite hard to detect but would cause catastrophic failures in the field.
You know it's a serious machine when the tool changer changes the tool and the associated oil/coolant nozzles. Fun stuff. Anyhow, when you were reviewing the tool in the optical comparator device, there was a propane torch in the background. What is that used for?
Do the same thing. Just seemed odd. With all the high end machinery I figured an electrical heater device wasn't out of the question. But it may not make financial sense for you to have one - they do cost a considerable amount of money. Do you know if the torch adversely affects the life of the tool holder?
I think you have to be care full not to get the tool holder any hotter than necessary to release the tool. I have been doing this for years on some tool holders and haven't had any problems. I quite often make straight shank extensions that shrink hold the tool. Just bore the hole .001" under the size of the shank your good to go. I usually make them out of O-1 drill rod.
@@EdgePrecision If I may ask I have never understood why not cool the tool for insertion. Then heat to holder for removal. Granted I can see how that over complicates things.
i saw prob not checking for runout. chuck must be indicated good and still then what if there is a run out although tapper tool can be easily reworked but what if you are doing some tolerance (plus minus .0005) . greetings to grinders.
I'm not totally sure what you are saying. If it pertains to runout of the collet chuck. This chuck is indicated in to less than .0001" and the Schaublin collet is a super precision collet. The whole setup runs less than .0002" of runout. Plus minus .0005" is a biggish tolerance for this kind of grinding. I have worked to less than that.
I have a play list on a truing attachment for the Star grinder. It's called Star Grinder Wheel Truing Attachment. Look at those videos. I show how I do this.
That is my Speroni Tool Setter. I use it for setting the tool lengths on the horizontal mill. But it also works good for checking the tools off the grinder.
It’s also a lead time issue. If you order a custom grind from any of the major tool suppliers. It’s usually a five to six weeks or more before you get your tool. This is where I can be more competitive. Most people wait to the last moment to order tooling. Than they are into the job and are willing to pay a higher price.
Dave Strong , You typically dress a diamond wheel by grinding it true with a silicon carbide grinding wheel. You may have noticed the Aloris tool post on top of the A axis. I mount a tool post grinder on it to dress the wheels. That way I can rotate the B axis to dress angles on the wheels. This tool would be about $75.00 because of the low quantity of only 3 pieces.
Edge Precision thanks for the response, seem very inexpensive custom tool. Do you design the tool yourself? John Sanders showed (nyccnc) a shop that modified Haas machines to grind custom cutters pretty cool.
Dave Strong In this case the costumer gave me the drawing detail and said they wanted a .375 shank. They left the rest up to me. Sometimes they give me a sketch of the tools profile but I still have to design the tools clearance angles. I believe the person John refers to is Alfred Lyon (don't know if I spelled that correctly).
Yeah that's AB Tool, they have a pretty good IG page too, kinda cool to follow. I thought $75 sounded very reasonable also for a custom cutter, especially on run of only 3. I thought custom tooling was way out of my reach unless there was just no other way, but now..... I think I'll give EP a call next time
I do some special for a few customers in my area. These tool in this video are for a shop near me. But mostly I grind special tools for myself and Centerline here. If I need to coat a tool there is a business here in town ANC Ion that does these type of coatings. I just send them the tools to get coated..
What you saw is a PC connected to the machine. So to answer your question the cam software could be run on a separate PC. The computer on the machine gets feedback from the machines control such that the PC actually runs the machine. There are actually two programs on the PC one that runs the machine and the cam software Numroto. But the machines control and servo systems are made by Num controls. When you make a program iin Numroto you upload it to the machines control all on the same PC.
Interesting at my old job the cnc plasma was that way the PC ran the machine. I didn't think any commercial machines operated that way, just the diy hobbyist machines.
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Pretty cool that the tool changer includes specific coolant manifolds for each tool
I’ve been programming and running cnc millers/lathes now for around 3 years full time since finishing my apprenticeship in the UK (I’m 24). These videos really help out. I’ve never seen a machine like this before. Keep up the great work! Really appreciate it. Thanks again!
I am always amazed by your very advanced skills and the complexity of your parts and set ups. I am the foreman of a small shop here in CA where we do mostly turning and mill/turning on 2 to 4 axis MAZAK lathes. Thanks for the videos, keep them coming.
Nice cutter. great vid. Thank you Peter.
I think when you sold to Centerline you kept the most profitable machines for yourself. Also you kept the machines that allow you to do what you really want to do which seems to be high end machine work rather than worrying about P&L statements and who showed up for work today. Your skill as a machinist and as a business owner is impressive. Please keep up the good work.
Geez that machine is so F-N badass. Is there anything it can't do? Seriously? I haven't had a chance to thank you for the probing video yet, I was crunched for time when I watched it and need to go back and watch it again but it did help quite a bit watching you step through it as you did and would love to see more of it when your up to it. Thanks again great post! Really though is there anything that machine is not capable of?
Thanks for running without coolant just for the video. Amazing work.
Shotgun Reloader Back when I was a machinist, running without coolant would have been a fireable offence. Too much risk of damaging million-dollar machines! Plus the grinding wheel would probably be ruined and require replacement. Wheel replacement (or merely extensive dressing) would mean downtime and lost money. Also, any parts not scrapped would have grinder burn - which was quite hard to detect but would cause catastrophic failures in the field.
Binge watching your channel. Cant get enough
Very nice machine! Again.....thanks for your vids!
Man you get to play with all the toys! Awesome videos - I think you've got the best content I've seen so far on machining.
Thank's for the video like the sound track also!
I also do the same kind of work.
I respect you
You know it's a serious machine when the tool changer changes the tool and the associated oil/coolant nozzles. Fun stuff. Anyhow, when you were reviewing the tool in the optical comparator device, there was a propane torch in the background. What is that used for?
Mārtiņš Zinbergs ,You have a keen eye. I use the propane torch fore heat shrink tools. Sort of the poor mans way of heat shrink.
Do the same thing. Just seemed odd. With all the high end machinery I figured an electrical heater device wasn't out of the question. But it may not make financial sense for you to have one - they do cost a considerable amount of money. Do you know if the torch adversely affects the life of the tool holder?
I think you have to be care full not to get the tool holder any hotter than necessary to release the tool. I have been doing this for years on some tool holders and haven't had any problems. I quite often make straight shank extensions that shrink hold the tool. Just bore the hole .001" under the size of the shank your good to go. I usually make them out of O-1 drill rod.
@@EdgePrecision If I may ask I have never understood why not cool the tool for insertion. Then heat to holder for removal. Granted I can see how that over complicates things.
Andrew York because the tool (carbide) won’t shrink enough to go into the tool holder. There is more temperature change with heat than cold.
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th-cam.com/video/tdJebb63LSg/w-d-xo.htmlm17s Hello, Tell me the model of the device, please.
I will be happy to answer your question if you could give me more information. Are you talking about the machine, tools or something else?
Numeroto has the best software. Is that a Star CNC Cutter Grinder?
Yes it is a Star grinder.
very good
Awesome!
Your videos make me want to come work you.
i saw prob not checking for runout. chuck must be indicated good and still then what if there is a run out although tapper tool can be easily reworked but what if you are doing some tolerance (plus minus .0005) . greetings to grinders.
I'm not totally sure what you are saying. If it pertains to runout of the collet chuck. This chuck is indicated in to less than .0001" and the Schaublin collet is a super precision collet. The whole setup runs less than .0002" of runout. Plus minus .0005" is a biggish tolerance for this kind of grinding. I have worked to less than that.
What I would do to apprentice with you for a month or two. I really appreciate your demand for precision and accuracy.
That tool changer is realy spesial
Thanks for sharing !!
Wooow Peter! you are a master Jedi, can you train a Padawan?
diamond wheels have to be conditioned periodically do you manually do it or machine does it?
I have a play list on a truing attachment for the Star grinder. It's called Star Grinder Wheel Truing Attachment. Look at those videos. I show how I do this.
That's so cool! thanks for sharing :)
thank you for your help keep going
Would you be as kind as to tell me the optical device that you used to check the tool? ( the one that looks like a shadowgraph ) ? Thank you very much
That is my Speroni Tool Setter. I use it for setting the tool lengths on the horizontal mill. But it also works good for checking the tools off the grinder.
@@EdgePrecision Thank you very much
So not fair, you have to buy a tool from a certified tool manufacturer at a tenfold price.
It’s also a lead time issue. If you order a custom grind from any of the major tool suppliers. It’s usually a five to six weeks or more before you get your tool. This is where I can be more competitive. Most people wait to the last moment to order tooling. Than they are into the job and are willing to pay a higher price.
@@EdgePrecision It was a political joke.
The equipment that you use is intended for the manufacture of tools and machines of automatic machines.
nice edits and composition!
How do you dress the wheels. What machine is this? What's a custom tool like this cost? Great video keep them coming.
Dave Strong , You typically dress a diamond wheel by grinding it true with a silicon carbide grinding wheel. You may have noticed the Aloris tool post on top of the A axis. I mount a tool post grinder on it to dress the wheels. That way I can rotate the B axis to dress angles on the wheels. This tool would be about $75.00 because of the low quantity of only 3 pieces.
Edge Precision thanks for the response, seem very inexpensive custom tool. Do you design the tool yourself? John Sanders showed (nyccnc) a shop that modified Haas machines to grind custom cutters pretty cool.
Dave Strong In this case the costumer gave me the drawing detail and said they wanted a .375 shank. They left the rest up to me. Sometimes they give me a sketch of the tools profile but I still have to design the tools clearance angles. I believe the person John refers to is Alfred Lyon (don't know if I spelled that correctly).
Yeah that's AB Tool, they have a pretty good IG page too, kinda cool to follow. I thought $75 sounded very reasonable also for a custom cutter, especially on run of only 3. I thought custom tooling was way out of my reach unless there was just no other way, but now..... I think I'll give EP a call next time
What you have for chiller and filler cooling nozzles?
I'm not sure I understand this question. If you mean the coolant nozzles on the grinder. They are just copper tubing.
@@EdgePrecision Im about sistem for cooling grind process and spindle. The included with machine?
There is a chiller unit for the spindle. This machine doesn't have a chiller on the coolant but the coolant tank holds about 300 gallons of oil.
You product (grind) tools just for self manufacturing or for sale too? If u need coat him, where you do this? (sorry for my english))
I do some special for a few customers in my area. These tool in this video are for a shop near me. But mostly I grind special tools for myself and Centerline here. If I need to coat a tool there is a business here in town ANC Ion that does these type of coatings. I just send them the tools to get coated..
why 41deg?
meocats , That's what the customer wanted 41 deg or 20.5 deg per side. The drawing had 20 deg + 1 - 0
Is the CAM software custom for the machine? Very interesting everything used looks $$.
What you saw is a PC connected to the machine. So to answer your question the cam software could be run on a separate PC. The computer on the machine gets feedback from the machines control such that the PC actually runs the machine. There are actually two programs on the PC one that runs the machine and the cam software Numroto. But the machines control and servo systems are made by Num controls. When you make a program iin Numroto you upload it to the machines control all on the same PC.
Interesting at my old job the cnc plasma was that way the PC ran the machine. I didn't think any commercial machines operated that way, just the diy hobbyist machines.
The control on the Integrex (and most other Mazak machines) uses a PC-based HMI running on Windows which interfaces with a Mitsubishi CNC control.
This music is actually really awesome, what is it? I want it on loop playback for the rest of my life.