A lot of people don't realize that all Taunts come with a certain chance in % to be targeted. Obviously against no taunt whatsoever, even a small % chance for taunt always wins but among taunts, it's still chance based rng as to who gets targeted more likely, but everyone still has a chance based on their taunt's %.
I think that is because when an enemy uses taunt, there is no chance involved. You CAN'T target anything other than the mob that is using taunt. Maybe Lasengle needs to start being more consistent with how the rules work with the players verse the mobs. So this isn't a fault of the player, they have no reason to imagine that taunt works any differently when they use it. This is a developer problem with making taunt be RNG based when the player uses it for no reason and not doing a good job of informing the player that their version of taunt isn't as good as what the mobs get to use. Or just fix taunt so no RNG is involved when the player uses it.
Thank you for this because I previously thought the wording meant it was a 60-80% chance that he got the additional guts stack, but once he got it, he could more or less revive endlessly.
Buff Success Up never worked like that though. We had Astolfo for years and we knew it doesn't work on him. It only ever works on buff application, not trigger.
They really could've just max the Chance Base to 100%. It won't make him absolutely broken with his Nature as an Alter Ego, but it will give him something unique of his own. An Unlimited Guts for a Goddamn Wall that gets stronger the more he dies for CQs
Fact: If somehow Rasputin’s Gut doesn’t procs the way you want it to be. You can just restart the game before the turn ends(some call it Re:Zero’ing), choose the different order of cards, use different order of skills, with how this game works you should be guaranteed to survive with max limit of his gut(which is 3 turn).
It will not work. Bcs the chance guts result is determined at the start of the turn, so actions like skill uses, cs.. will not affect if the gut procs or not
@@mmlaughing6458 Skill activation always rerolls the RNG in a turn. NP activation also does it for the rest of the turn. For card order it doesn't affect anything, but it can change stuff if it triggers debuffs or kills an enemy. I don't know if the critical chance increase of a quick card changes RNG or not though.
Buff Success Chance Up increases the chance of the buff landing on the Servant, but it does not affect the chances of the buff triggering. The random chance Guts has a 100% chance of landing on Kirei, so it will always land unless you have another Guts effect blocking it, there's a Buff Success Chance Down on Kirei and you get bad RNG (which can be countered by Buff Success Chance Up) or Buff Block is currently active on Kirei. Once it has landed, you will have to gamble everytime it has to trigger, with a 80% chance of winning the gamble at max level.
FYI: 1. Buff success rate-up only applies to active skills that have random chances like IP. His guts most likely have very different calculations. 2. Only his 1st guts that can be stacked. 3. If all units have taunts, what do you expect?
To put it simply, buff success rate only works to make sure that the buff icon(s) is placed on your servant's buff list. Skills like IP have chance of failing to put the buff icon up. So the buff success rate will works on it by making sure the buff icon show up on the list (means it's active). But once the buff icon itself is already there, buff success rate won't do anything. The buff itself is already active after all. I think Kirei's guts works just like Necromancy. The buff is the guts chance itself. The guts proc is the effect of the buff. And it doesn't put any new buff icon to the list. So buff success rate won't work.
It’s still too bad necromancy doesn’t stack with chance guts. It’s not like it would realistically make it that much more likely to trigger, but it would be funny
The guts buff is the same as Astolfo and Fionn’s skill, it cannot be increased by buffs, CEs, whatsoever. Just to clarify because a lot of people are thinking otherwise. A necromancy skill and a stackable guts makes it a strong skill on its own already, 100% chance will make him busted.
Given the current state of the roster absolutely requiring pay to win as in SQ to obtain servants of higher rarity to even have a remote chance of getting to pass the challenge quests and events I would much rather Aniplex see the end of a barrel if that is what it takes for them so that FGO can have characters that are legitimately relevant I am looking at Geronimo, at Shakespeare, at Kojiro, at fucking Astrea, Blavatsky, there are more high rarities than there are lower ones, which an increasing number of them are LOCKED and o ly able to be summoned in the Story gacha, even the lower rarities Honestly, the whole summoning system can eat my ass
@@YouGottaShootEmInTheHead > pay to win as in SQ to obtain servants of higher rarity to even have a remote chance of getting to pass the challenge quests and events just watch honako green videos and you will see how wrong you are
This is assuming that is RNG for whether the buff lands rather than a chance for the skill to proc. If it is the latter then no amount of buff success rate is going to help.
The order of guts used (by my own experiment) Guts that are removable (without square frame) > guts that are irremovable (with square frame, e.g. CE buff); and among removable guts, guts that is cast earlier is used first This explains why Kirei uses the stackable 1-time guts first and then the unstackable infinite by-chance guts
Wish its 100% but limit it to 12 or 10 times...or increase its chance to 95%....20% miss kinda unreliable...most of the time i can only survive for 2 turn but at last turn its mostly fail....
@@marisbury Effectively making it impossible to resist, which is its intended purpose. I mean, what use are buffs if the Servant's in permasleep anyway?
Each guts after the 1st one only has an 80% chance to work. This is for 3 turns but happen infinitely until you hit that 20%. It's honestly a meme skill.
i dont get why they disallow guts chance to work with actual guts- like why? is it really that important to not let him have 1 turn of guaranteed guts and 2 of 80%? this isnt even a good play, since its way better to use that guts before using the skill, or after, so i dont get why it simply cant override the chance for the turn it lasts even if it was 100% rasputin wouldnt be suddenly broken, so i dont get why they'd stop it from working with guaranteeds
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A lot of people don't realize that all Taunts come with a certain chance in % to be targeted. Obviously against no taunt whatsoever, even a small % chance for taunt always wins but among taunts, it's still chance based rng as to who gets targeted more likely, but everyone still has a chance based on their taunt's %.
I think that is because when an enemy uses taunt, there is no chance involved. You CAN'T target anything other than the mob that is using taunt. Maybe Lasengle needs to start being more consistent with how the rules work with the players verse the mobs. So this isn't a fault of the player, they have no reason to imagine that taunt works any differently when they use it. This is a developer problem with making taunt be RNG based when the player uses it for no reason and not doing a good job of informing the player that their version of taunt isn't as good as what the mobs get to use. Or just fix taunt so no RNG is involved when the player uses it.
@@GeorgeMonet the mobs can't target anyone other than the taunt users either. The chance stuff comes up when there are *multiple* taunts used at once
Thank you for this because I previously thought the wording meant it was a 60-80% chance that he got the additional guts stack, but once he got it, he could more or less revive endlessly.
I really thought the Buff Success Rate Up would work but guess he can't be THAT broken isn't it?
If it works then you would be stuck in that loop
@@har-v246 at least its better than oberon vs skeleton A loop
@@har-v246 you can leave the game and then open it back up to leave the mission
Buff Success Up never worked like that though. We had Astolfo for years and we knew it doesn't work on him.
It only ever works on buff application, not trigger.
Plushie just casually flexes his Koyan and Vitch with the taunt test lol
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They really could've just max the Chance Base to 100%. It won't make him absolutely broken with his Nature as an Alter Ego, but it will give him something unique of his own. An Unlimited Guts for a Goddamn Wall that gets stronger the more he dies for CQs
It will softlock you in the werewolf quest tho. I doubt they thought of this however its likely they just put the code for necromancy for it
Issues of softlocking aside, maybe we’ll see it changed from 80% max chance to 100% max chance in a strengthening quest.
@@digitalnative5678 That or they could start at 100+% and have a -10% rate debuff everytime it triggers.
@@anal9653 Wouldnt that be a nerf after 2 guts procs?
@@char1194 yeah that's stupid
Prob not gonna be 100% ever just so when they make quests like these and it bugs out and softlock u
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Fact: If somehow Rasputin’s Gut doesn’t procs the way you want it to be. You can just restart the game before the turn ends(some call it Re:Zero’ing), choose the different order of cards, use different order of skills, with how this game works you should be guaranteed to survive with max limit of his gut(which is 3 turn).
I'm calling it Bite the Dust, and I always imagined that it's just MC having unique time rewind magic😂
It's called savescumming
It will not work. Bcs the chance guts result is determined at the start of the turn, so actions like skill uses, cs.. will not affect if the gut procs or not
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@@mmlaughing6458 Skill activation always rerolls the RNG in a turn. NP activation also does it for the rest of the turn.
For card order it doesn't affect anything, but it can change stuff if it triggers debuffs or kills an enemy. I don't know if the critical chance increase of a quick card changes RNG or not though.
Buff Success Chance Up increases the chance of the buff landing on the Servant, but it does not affect the chances of the buff triggering. The random chance Guts has a 100% chance of landing on Kirei, so it will always land unless you have another Guts effect blocking it, there's a Buff Success Chance Down on Kirei and you get bad RNG (which can be countered by Buff Success Chance Up) or Buff Block is currently active on Kirei. Once it has landed, you will have to gamble everytime it has to trigger, with a 80% chance of winning the gamble at max level.
I guess, Mahanaga may be the Worst possible enemy mob for Rasputin: Knight Class and likes to spam Goddamn Buff removal
Imagine if Necromancy was 80% success.
He will be both standing and death standing
No matter how much he fall from damage or extra hot spicy mapo tofu
FYI:
1. Buff success rate-up only applies to active skills that have random chances like IP. His guts most likely have very different calculations.
2. Only his 1st guts that can be stacked.
3. If all units have taunts, what do you expect?
It's like sword Liz 3rd skill
To put it simply, buff success rate only works to make sure that the buff icon(s) is placed on your servant's buff list. Skills like IP have chance of failing to put the buff icon up. So the buff success rate will works on it by making sure the buff icon show up on the list (means it's active). But once the buff icon itself is already there, buff success rate won't do anything. The buff itself is already active after all. I think Kirei's guts works just like Necromancy. The buff is the guts chance itself. The guts proc is the effect of the buff. And it doesn't put any new buff icon to the list. So buff success rate won't work.
Man
If the ingame immortality mechanic were this good.
Imagine how busted the lore and his enemy version mechanic at LB 7.5
A good Musashi would take him down, buff removal AND bonus damage against alter egos? Kirei will have eaten his last mapo tofu
So basically 3 turns of 80% guts can determine someone's luck
1 turn: cu
2 turn: artoria
3 turn: Gil
Imagine havin to deal with that fucking Guts skill on hiss boss fight
FUCK
Just remove his buffs, bro. Unless they intentionally make it extra obnoxious with unremovable crap.
It’s still too bad necromancy doesn’t stack with chance guts. It’s not like it would realistically make it that much more likely to trigger, but it would be funny
Great hero design. Let's add more gacha into your gacha game. Except there is lesser chance of you dying and getting replaced by a better dps
Even put Anra Mainyu in your team? Way to please Kirei.
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Yes i think its the same as necromancy
The guts buff is the same as Astolfo and Fionn’s skill, it cannot be increased by buffs, CEs, whatsoever. Just to clarify because a lot of people are thinking otherwise.
A necromancy skill and a stackable guts makes it a strong skill on its own already, 100% chance will make him busted.
Given the current state of the roster absolutely requiring pay to win as in SQ to obtain servants of higher rarity to even have a remote chance of getting to pass the challenge quests and events
I would much rather Aniplex see the end of a barrel if that is what it takes for them so that FGO can have characters that are legitimately relevant
I am looking at Geronimo, at Shakespeare, at Kojiro, at fucking Astrea, Blavatsky, there are more high rarities than there are lower ones, which an increasing number of them are LOCKED and o ly able to be summoned in the Story gacha, even the lower rarities
Honestly, the whole summoning system can eat my ass
@@YouGottaShootEmInTheHead I'm just going to say I disagree and leave it there. 😂
@@YouGottaShootEmInTheHead Just use herc and some tidy bowl cubes
@@YouGottaShootEmInTheHead > pay to win as in SQ to obtain servants of higher rarity to even have a remote chance of getting to pass the challenge quests and events
just watch honako green videos and you will see how wrong you are
So you did see my comment on the ms. Bai conundrum!
I'm happy you tried the theory, disappointing it doesn't work though 😞
look... *PUCCI* and *DIO* work together
ah so each time he dies there is a 80% to revive, ok good misunderstood
This is assuming that is RNG for whether the buff lands rather than a chance for the skill to proc. If it is the latter then no amount of buff success rate is going to help.
honestly not even herc can be as strong as that
he trully is chen gong favorite ammo
How so? You need more NP batteries coming in to keep the Gong train rolling. Seems like someone with a bunch of guts is the last thing you want.
Infinite = 2
The order of guts used (by my own experiment)
Guts that are removable (without square frame) > guts that are irremovable (with square frame, e.g. CE buff);
and among removable guts, guts that is cast earlier is used first
This explains why Kirei uses the stackable 1-time guts first and then the unstackable infinite by-chance guts
Wish its 100% but limit it to 12 or 10 times...or increase its chance to 95%....20% miss kinda unreliable...most of the time i can only survive for 2 turn but at last turn its mostly fail....
Well if that happens game will be broken
Maybe once it goes over 100 it loops back down. Like a 148% chance would turn into just 48%
No that is not how it works I’m pretty sure
The maximum chance is 500%. Buffs and debuffs from Master have a 500% chance.
@@seekinganswers4785 Man, the game is so RNG that they need 500% chance for sure-buff lol
@@seekinganswers4785 Oberon's last skill have "1000% Chance to remove their buffs."
@@marisbury Effectively making it impossible to resist, which is its intended purpose. I mean, what use are buffs if the Servant's in permasleep anyway?
Does this work with the Necromancy CE?
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Oh my god, Jesus Christ, what the fuck
Wait, what? What happened, why did his guts stop working?
Each guts after the 1st one only has an 80% chance to work. This is for 3 turns but happen infinitely until you hit that 20%. It's honestly a meme skill.
Can it stack with Necromancer CE tho?
No
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How are you doing the Fate/Requiem event? That’s been long over?
i dont get why they disallow guts chance to work with actual guts- like why?
is it really that important to not let him have 1 turn of guaranteed guts and 2 of 80%? this isnt even a good play, since its way better to use that guts before using the skill, or after, so i dont get why it simply cant override the chance for the turn it lasts
even if it was 100% rasputin wouldnt be suddenly broken, so i dont get why they'd stop it from working with guaranteeds
its a shame they do this, it nukes any chance of meme fun bullshit
Can still try to run him against Cernunous and play a little bit of gacha :)
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