It's a little ballsy to compare the two - most reviewers avoid it. I came away a bit disappointed from my Montblanc retail experience. The staff were falling over themselves to treat them as precious objects, and while I found the pens pleasant enough in hand, I didn't like the feedback. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't also turned off by Montblanc's antics - precious resin, white gloves et al. Many reviewers I watch had to return their MB's to be tuned out of the box, and owners are often reluctant to remove the stickers or post caps for fear of lowering the resale value. Where's the enjoyment in that? The Jinhao 159 was one of my first pens, before Jinhao upped their game about two years ago. It required a lot of work on the nib, but wound up being bouncy and smooth. You can also replace the nib with a nice Jowo. I like the solidity - brass, I think, (which hardly seems like a second class material next to plastic) and not having to worry it. PS. Nice to see a reviewer with big hands - I'm forever misjudging the size of modern pens, even when I know their measurements.
My MB needed some tweeking but I was planning on it going in. MB markets themselves as a high end brand that is recognized around the world & so those types of things are part & parcel with luxury branding/imagery. My 159 is a bit clunky & using it now a few times the nib hard starts and other things. I've heard people ask how does the 159 stack up to the 149 so figured why not give it a quick run down.
When reviewers talk a bout MB149 or any MB and how great, precious and a holy grail it reminds me of something a President once said in that if you tell a big enough lie and tell it often people will believe it. If you have the disposable cash fill your boots but otherwise pick up a quality Japanese fp with a little feedback or any other such as Pilot, Waterman or Pelikan at a fraction of the price. MB owners are just happy to know they have one of the most expensive in the daily user category. I would rather buy a box of lead pencils than any of the Chinese manufactured eye candy! JMHO.
@@richardc6932 I'm not sure how fair that is Richard to be completely honest. I've around 50 pens (mostly fountains), 18 of which are Montblancs. I began the momentum of Montblanc collecting only after I had taken my trusty Lamy to do my uni exams, experimented with Jinhaos with an open mind (simply didn't like them), and found that alongside MB I love Caran d'Ache and Faber Castells in equal amounts. I think it is easy to say MB collectors like myself chiefly want MB pens for the status. But we're forgetting something key here: our hobby of fp usage is incredibly niche. Whilst any fp enthusiast will know about MB and their prices, the vast majority of other people do not know what a MB is, will not recognise one, and has no idea of the pricetag. I use my MBs regularly because I love them and they are a beautiful pen to me- nothing more
Thank you for this video, now I have learned the size difference between Jinhao 159 and MB 149. I got a Jinhao 159 at a cost that is jaw dropping, cheaper than my Jinhao 8802, of course my Jinhao 159 is less beautiful, the writing experience is.... buttery smooth... even on cheap paper with dry ink - Pelikan violet... i was like writing on a piece of silk... unbelievable, and it worked out of the box!
You can't in all honesty really compare them. They are not the same pen, however, I agree with Dave Charvella, for the money you can beat it. Now if you have $800-$1000 to spend, go for broke and thoroughly enjoy your MB. I paid $4.99-$5.99 for my Jinhao 159s. My oldest 159 is about 9-10 yrs old, and I have had no problems with color loss. The nice thing about the 159 is the ease of nib exchange. If you want a flex nib, you can buy a #6 flex nib and exchange the nib in your 159.
Love the finishes on them, have an x450 in black and green, but does the 159's finish wear off as soon as the x450? that's the only concern I have about buying one in this purple
I have the 149 its not that smooth and its overrated, overpriced for the quality it offers, because of the name Montblanc people buy to show off, if you want quality writing pen buy a Pilot.
I have a 159 with a Bock 1.5 stub nib and two Jinhao X750s, one with the original medium nib which writes well, and the other with a 1.1 Bock stub nib. I prefer the X750s bucause they are snap cap and they don't dry out like the 159s tend to. Also the Jinhao X750s are lighter in weight and have some lovely colours I do have an expensive pen. A Pilot Custom heritage 912 with the falcon gold flex nib. Blows Montblanc away for £175. Pilot nibs are great. I have a Pilot Metropolitan that I have had for many years with the B cm stub nib. Great for £20.
Sounds like you really enjoy & use your pens! Great to hear, thanks for checking out my vids. I did a vid in the 912, do you have the stock feed or after market one?
I was very surprised by the resemblance of the 159 to the 149. Also very taken with its juiciness. All the same, I like your analogy: Why go with the Corolla when you have a Beamer in the garage? The 149 was my grail pen for fifteen years. Based on journey alone, it kind of has to be my favorite pen.
@@dannythemedic more or less, yeah. It was a pen I really wanted for 15 years, but didn’t manage to get one at a price I could live with until last year.
An equal amount of blueberries in each muffin. You know how long that's going to take? I don't care how long it takes, put an equal amount in each muffin.
Greetings from Australia. Good video and I love the cigar box idea. (Vintage cigar boxes) I have 2 of the Jinhaos on order from Shanghai. And if the nib is good its a big bonus. For the price it can't be beaten. Good video.
Thanks for watching my video! Definitely a good buy especially for the price. I like using them if I want to grind a nib & play around. I might make a batch of the boxes for sale as well if I get good responses. Have a great holiday season 🎄
If you find any for $6, I'll buy one, just to say I have one. Had my hands on a MB 149 recently, and it did not write any better than my $30 Picasso Avignon. I will say that the 149's gold nib was a disappointment for the money my friend had to pay for the pride of saying he had one to show off.
Maybe i have luck to buy an Bugatti Veyron for 10k its the same like an kia it drive forward and backwards same shit only other price . Both drives you Form a to b .
I have the black jinhao 159, and I posted my cap. Don't it scraped off the black. Love my jinhao 159. I hope one day to buy the real MB 149. If I can ever afford it.
Love the finishes on them, have an x450 in black and green, but does the 159's finish wear off as soon as the x450? that's the only concern I have about buying one in this purple
I didn't use this pen much and just gave it away after I ground the nib. It is a challenge with pens like this that paint their pen bodies. The paint tends to wear off
@@Doodlebud ahh, yeah, it's a shame, for 6 usd it's a great pen, love the medium nibs on these and the finishes look pretty darn good too, won't get another if the finish will come off like it started to on my x450
They look similar, but that's about it. The 159 has a brass barrel and cap. The 149 is resin or Celluloid. The 159 is considerably heavier, but, it should last for at least a couple hundred generations thanks to the brass construction. The 149 should last at least 3 or 4 generations. The 159 is a Cartridge Converter pen. The 149 isn't. It is either a piston fill or vacuum fill, I forget which. Montblanc does make a cartridge-converter pen, I don't know the model number. 139? Wouldn't a comparison of that pen to the 159 or the new X159 (resin barrel and cap, uses N°8 nib, rather than the 159's N°6 nib) Oh, the 159 is under $10. The X159 under $15 on Amazon. The 149 is what? $900 ~ $1,150 or more? All things considered, I can live without the white star on the cap finial. I'll never own a Montblanc or other "luxury" pen unless someone gifts it to me, and the chances of that are less than one in however many protons there are in the universe ... cubed ... If I ever NEED a 14K gold nib, there's one on my 1940's Waterman's Dauntless lever fill. I don't need a Montblanc or other "luxury" pen to "impress" anyone. Truth be told, no one I know would be favorably "impressed" if I spent that much money on a pen. They might try to convince the court I'm incapable of handling my own finances, in fact. My spending that much for a pen on my income would give them a mighty strong case, too. I might buy the X159 sometime next year, just to try the fine Number 8 nib. See if it writes any better than my fine number 6 and number 5 nibs.
Exactly what kind of cartridge converter is it? Is it a standard international or 2.3mm bore? Is it like the one that comes with the jinhao 599 'safari homage/clone'? Thanks
When i put Sketch Ink in the 159 i really didn't like it. Too much flow. But then i put Diamine ink in it and it works soooo nice. For the price i paid a few years ago i am not disappointed in this pen. And i really like the weight in my hand. And you can easily change the nibs if you don't like the one on it. It's not like you can complain about having to change the nib at this price level, most brands convertors cost more than i paid for the 159 and it came with a convertor. I'm now thinking of getting me an X159.
The subtle differences do not justify the price difference, MB 149 is at least 100 times more expensive ... Yes, it has a gold nib, and that's half the price ... other than that, the MB149 is nothing special. A light plastic that can easily be scratched. It also has a simple plastic thread that looks cheap ... In my opinion, the Jinhao feels more expensive in hand than the MB 149. MB149 may write better, but I still don't understand the love people show him ... I don't understand why people are so excited ... Kudos to MB managers for creating the cult !
Ideally a store where you can see it, feel it, & try it out. Not a cheap pen, and nothing worse than dishing out big cash to only wish you got a different pen, nib, colour, etc.
I might do a video on it. Bought a router, made a setup on my table to cut the slots in a wooden base plate I cut to size. Then do a little sewing & glue to the base plate.
Great idea with the pen boxes very environmentally friendly. Very nice. I have a Mont Blanc 149 superbly comfortable like no other pen & I always keep it posted when writing . Not my favourite writer by any means. However my ultimate holy grail pen is the 149 Meisterstuck with Mont Blanc’s calligraphy nib. A fan of flex nibs this one has it all. Phenomenal nib fabulous looks and comfort. Maybe one day!
@@Doodlebud Great. It is a nice addition and improvement. Nice number eight nib. Much lighter, which some will like, and some hate. Better section, which is closer to MB. Really only fly in the ointment is the three turns to uncap, and it is still cartridge convertor pen, but still oodles less than MB. Only the flexy MB nibs tempts me, but the price on that is high even for MB, so not anytime soon.
I think you can. Montblanc is a standard international size & I belive jinhao is the same. But I coukd be wrong so maybe google it & see what you can find
My experience with the Jinhao are 450 & 750. I had about 7 of them, changed out nibs to Goulet nibs. Tried making silk purses out of sows ears. They dry out way too quickly, and the rings down by the feed/nib section always got ink under them and no matter how well i wiped them off, later tbey would tranfer ink to my fingers. Ya, they do function as a fountain pen, and they have a great variety of colors and designs. Plus, they are cheap, er, inexpensive. I just put 5 of them in the good will bag, kept 2 of the 750s. Can't speak to the 149, but from where I sit, another Jinhao junk. I'd sooner wast $10.00 on any other pen then Jinhao. My opinion only, as some love them. Still, I try to never miss the chance of calling them crap at every opportunity I can. I'm no FPen snob, but I enjoy better pens, and I'm willing to spend the extra to be able to use them. I buy Ben & Jerrys ice cream in their pint size containers at the price they cost, not the 5 gal. container of vanilla sugary swill that tastes horrible. Same cost, two way different products. Save your dollars, buy a quality fountain pen, enjoy the experience, not just endure it! You want to write with crap, go get a feather cut a point, and start dipping... .
@strshooter being true to his username lol. Yeah, they are cheap, nibs are hit or miss. This 159 does dry up sometimes. Good pens to practice nib grinds on, or modify, or make frankenspens. You can get a basic TWSBI, lamy, or others for a bit more & get a WAY better pen!
@@Doodlebud I have purchased 3 of the Kaweco Sport line, a Navy blue, a transparent green, and just now, the AL limited edition in brown (almost 3x the cost of the plastic models). I'm taken with how well these write and work. It's an old design (1911) from a German company. It would be nice if converter and clip were included, but not a large cost if you want those items. They seem like a bargain to me, the plastic ones for sure, the AL one, eh? ... it's Christmas, I wanted one. :-) .
@@countlitmogaphil392 I’m going to stop running Jinhao fountain pens down. It’s apparent they work very well for some folks, and for that I’m glad. The didn’t work for me, but hey, there are so many fountain pens out there and they don’t have to be expensive to be special for someone. I’m using a Kaweco Golden Expresso AL Sport as a eye dropper (F) and it just works so well for me. I’ve got a bunch of way more expensive F pens, but this little gem is my go to pen everyday. Who knew?? Good luck with your selection of your favorite pens 🤗👍😎.
@@strshooter7399 nahh, ofcourse you can express your own opinion, don't need to stop doing that bcos I said something, cos for me they have been working fine but not everything is meant for everyone
It's a little ballsy to compare the two - most reviewers avoid it.
I came away a bit disappointed from my Montblanc retail experience. The staff were falling over themselves to treat them as precious objects, and while I found the pens pleasant enough in hand, I didn't like the feedback. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't also turned off by Montblanc's antics - precious resin, white gloves et al. Many reviewers I watch had to return their MB's to be tuned out of the box, and owners are often reluctant to remove the stickers or post caps for fear of lowering the resale value. Where's the enjoyment in that?
The Jinhao 159 was one of my first pens, before Jinhao upped their game about two years ago. It required a lot of work on the nib, but wound up being bouncy and smooth. You can also replace the nib with a nice Jowo. I like the solidity - brass, I think, (which hardly seems like a second class material next to plastic) and not having to worry it.
PS. Nice to see a reviewer with big hands - I'm forever misjudging the size of modern pens, even when I know their measurements.
My MB needed some tweeking but I was planning on it going in. MB markets themselves as a high end brand that is recognized around the world & so those types of things are part & parcel with luxury branding/imagery. My 159 is a bit clunky & using it now a few times the nib hard starts and other things. I've heard people ask how does the 159 stack up to the 149 so figured why not give it a quick run down.
When reviewers talk a bout MB149 or any MB and how great, precious and a holy grail it reminds me of something a President once said in that if you tell a big enough lie and tell it often people will believe it. If you have the disposable cash fill your boots but otherwise pick up a quality Japanese fp with a little feedback or any other such as Pilot, Waterman or Pelikan at a fraction of the price. MB owners are just happy to know they have one of the most expensive in the daily user category. I would rather buy a box of lead pencils than any of the Chinese manufactured eye candy! JMHO.
@@richardc6932 I'm not sure how fair that is Richard to be completely honest. I've around 50 pens (mostly fountains), 18 of which are Montblancs.
I began the momentum of Montblanc collecting only after I had taken my trusty Lamy to do my uni exams, experimented with Jinhaos with an open mind (simply didn't like them), and found that alongside MB I love Caran d'Ache and Faber Castells in equal amounts.
I think it is easy to say MB collectors like myself chiefly want MB pens for the status. But we're forgetting something key here: our hobby of fp usage is incredibly niche. Whilst any fp enthusiast will know about MB and their prices, the vast majority of other people do not know what a MB is, will not recognise one, and has no idea of the pricetag. I use my MBs regularly because I love them and they are a beautiful pen to me- nothing more
Thank you for this video, now I have learned the size difference between Jinhao 159 and MB 149. I got a Jinhao 159 at a cost that is jaw dropping, cheaper than my Jinhao 8802, of course my Jinhao 159 is less beautiful, the writing experience is.... buttery smooth... even on cheap paper with dry ink - Pelikan violet... i was like writing on a piece of silk... unbelievable, and it worked out of the box!
I have both pens. They're similar in size ... that's where it begins, and that's where it ends! But, Jinhao's, for the money, can't beat em!
Yeah I agree with that lol. They're both big pens & that's about it.
You can't in all honesty really compare them. They are not the same pen, however, I agree with
Dave Charvella, for the money you can beat it. Now if you have $800-$1000 to spend, go for
broke and thoroughly enjoy your MB. I paid $4.99-$5.99 for my Jinhao 159s. My oldest 159
is about 9-10 yrs old, and I have had no problems with color loss. The nice thing about the 159
is the ease of nib exchange. If you want a flex nib, you can buy a #6 flex nib and exchange the
nib in your 159.
@Zaid Weston Why would anyone want to do that?
Love the finishes on them, have an x450 in black and green, but does the 159's finish wear off as soon as the x450? that's the only concern I have about buying one in this purple
I have the 149 its not that smooth and its overrated, overpriced for the quality it offers, because of the name Montblanc people buy to show off, if you want quality writing pen buy a Pilot.
I have a 159 with a Bock 1.5 stub nib and two Jinhao X750s, one with the original medium nib which writes well, and the other with a 1.1 Bock stub nib. I prefer the X750s bucause they are snap cap and they don't dry out like the 159s tend to.
Also the Jinhao X750s are lighter in weight and have some lovely colours
I do have an expensive pen.
A Pilot Custom heritage 912 with the falcon gold flex nib. Blows Montblanc away for £175.
Pilot nibs are great.
I have a Pilot Metropolitan that I have had for many years with the B cm stub nib. Great for £20.
Sounds like you really enjoy & use your pens! Great to hear, thanks for checking out my vids. I did a vid in the 912, do you have the stock feed or after market one?
@@Doodlebud Con 70 and stock feed
@@neilpiper9889 oh wow lucky you, mine could barely write with zero pressure uisng the stock feed
Great fabric inserts....Reminds me of a Crown Royal bag. 🍹🖋⭐
I always thought the crown bags are classy. Definitely was a bit of an influence. Want to see about adding my doodlebud logo to it as well
@@Doodlebud Great idea.....I always used the bags to store all the mixed song CD's I made...Have tons. No need for cases. The influence was noticed. 💜
I was very surprised by the resemblance of the 159 to the 149. Also very taken with its juiciness. All the same, I like your analogy: Why go with the Corolla when you have a Beamer in the garage? The 149 was my grail pen for fifteen years. Based on journey alone, it kind of has to be my favorite pen.
@@dannythemedic more or less, yeah. It was a pen I really wanted for 15 years, but didn’t manage to get one at a price I could live with until last year.
An equal amount of blueberries in each muffin. You know how long that's going to take? I don't care how long it takes, put an equal amount in each muffin.
Such a great movie!
Greetings from Australia.
Good video and I love the cigar box idea. (Vintage cigar boxes)
I have 2 of the Jinhaos on order from Shanghai. And if the nib is good its a big bonus.
For the price it can't be beaten. Good video.
Thanks for watching my video! Definitely a good buy especially for the price. I like using them if I want to grind a nib & play around. I might make a batch of the boxes for sale as well if I get good responses. Have a great holiday season 🎄
and.... how is the nib?
Thank you very much for posting this!
No problem
Nice comparison. If I ever get the chance to purchase the MB 149 for $6 I will not hesitate. : )
If you find any for $6, let me know too I'll buy a couple 😉
If you find any for $6, I'll buy one, just to say I have one. Had my hands on a MB 149 recently,
and it did not write any better than my $30 Picasso Avignon. I will say that the 149's gold
nib was a disappointment for the money my friend had to pay for the pride of saying he had
one to show off.
Maybe i have luck to buy an Bugatti Veyron for 10k its the same like an kia it drive forward and backwards same shit only other price . Both drives you Form a to b .
I have the black jinhao 159, and I posted my cap. Don't it scraped off the black. Love my jinhao 159. I hope one day to buy the real MB 149. If I can ever afford it.
Love the finishes on them, have an x450 in black and green, but does the 159's finish wear off as soon as the x450? that's the only concern I have about buying one in this purple
I didn't use this pen much and just gave it away after I ground the nib. It is a challenge with pens like this that paint their pen bodies. The paint tends to wear off
@@Doodlebud ahh, yeah, it's a shame, for 6 usd it's a great pen, love the medium nibs on these and the finishes look pretty darn good too, won't get another if the finish will come off like it started to on my x450
They look similar, but that's about it. The 159 has a brass barrel and cap. The 149 is resin or Celluloid. The 159 is considerably heavier, but, it should last for at least a couple hundred generations thanks to the brass construction. The 149 should last at least 3 or 4 generations.
The 159 is a Cartridge Converter pen. The 149 isn't. It is either a piston fill or vacuum fill, I forget which. Montblanc does make a cartridge-converter pen, I don't know the model number. 139? Wouldn't a comparison of that pen to the 159 or the new X159 (resin barrel and cap, uses N°8 nib, rather than the 159's N°6 nib)
Oh, the 159 is under $10. The X159 under $15 on Amazon. The 149 is what? $900 ~ $1,150 or more?
All things considered, I can live without the white star on the cap finial.
I'll never own a Montblanc or other "luxury" pen unless someone gifts it to me, and the chances of that are less than one in however many protons there are in the universe ... cubed ...
If I ever NEED a 14K gold nib, there's one on my 1940's Waterman's Dauntless lever fill. I don't need a Montblanc or other "luxury" pen to "impress" anyone. Truth be told, no one I know would be favorably "impressed" if I spent that much money on a pen. They might try to convince the court I'm incapable of handling my own finances, in fact. My spending that much for a pen on my income would give them a mighty strong case, too.
I might buy the X159 sometime next year, just to try the fine Number 8 nib. See if it writes any better than my fine number 6 and number 5 nibs.
Exactly what kind of cartridge converter is it?
Is it a standard international or 2.3mm bore?
Is it like the one that comes with the jinhao 599 'safari homage/clone'?
Thanks
The nibs are pre-stamped with the 18k before they plate them in gold. So the nibs will always say 18k, regardless if they have gold plating or not.
Well if its stamped on there it MUST be real 18K LOL. Can't blame them for trying I guess
When i put Sketch Ink in the 159 i really didn't like it. Too much flow. But then i put Diamine ink in it and it works soooo nice. For the price i paid a few years ago i am not disappointed in this pen. And i really like the weight in my hand.
And you can easily change the nibs if you don't like the one on it. It's not like you can complain about having to change the nib at this price level, most brands convertors cost more than i paid for the 159 and it came with a convertor.
I'm now thinking of getting me an X159.
The subtle differences do not justify the price difference, MB 149 is at least 100 times more expensive ...
Yes, it has a gold nib, and that's half the price ... other than that, the MB149 is nothing special.
A light plastic that can easily be scratched.
It also has a simple plastic thread that looks cheap ...
In my opinion, the Jinhao feels more expensive in hand than the MB 149.
MB149 may write better, but I still don't understand the love people show him ...
I don't understand why people are so excited ...
Kudos to MB managers for creating the cult !
Where do you recommend buying montblanc pens?Cuz i really want to buy one.
Ideally a store where you can see it, feel it, & try it out. Not a cheap pen, and nothing worse than dishing out big cash to only wish you got a different pen, nib, colour, etc.
So ..
Have you used the jinhao a lot? Is the finish coming off?
I gave it a away in a channel giveaway a while back. I have another Jinhao that hast the same type of section and that was worn of a fair amount
Ok; thanks for the reply (o:
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Such an epic movie!
How did you make the insert for the cigar box?
I might do a video on it. Bought a router, made a setup on my table to cut the slots in a wooden base plate I cut to size. Then do a little sewing & glue to the base plate.
Great idea with the pen boxes very environmentally friendly. Very nice. I have a Mont Blanc 149 superbly comfortable like no other pen & I always keep it posted when writing . Not my favourite writer by any means. However my ultimate holy grail pen is the 149 Meisterstuck with Mont Blanc’s calligraphy nib. A fan of flex nibs this one has it all. Phenomenal nib fabulous looks and comfort. Maybe one day!
Well perhaps time to revisit this with the Jingao X159.
Have one on the way
@@Doodlebud Great. It is a nice addition and improvement. Nice number eight nib. Much lighter, which some will like, and some hate. Better section, which is closer to MB. Really only fly in the ointment is the three turns to uncap, and it is still cartridge convertor pen, but still oodles less than MB. Only the flexy MB nibs tempts me, but the price on that is high even for MB, so not anytime soon.
What are the open pen weights?
Don't have the Jinhao anymore so not sure
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can i use a montblanc ink cartridge on the jinhao 159?
I think you can. Montblanc is a standard international size & I belive jinhao is the same. But I coukd be wrong so maybe google it & see what you can find
Yeah try the 149 MB ink cartrige🤣🤣🤣🤣
swap out the nib of the 159 for a stub 1.5! Big nib for a big pen.
I’m a cigar box haha
Do you know how long that's going to take?
How long what will take? 🤔
@@Doodlebud ...to put an equal amount of blueberries in each muffin.
@@kickbillcom LOL I totally forgot about my writing sample 🤣.
@@Doodlebud hahahaa
@@kickbillcom "I don't care how long it takes, but an equal amount in each muffin!"
A Bmw compared to a Toyota is junk 🤣
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My experience with the Jinhao are 450 & 750. I had about 7 of them, changed out nibs to Goulet nibs. Tried making silk purses out of sows ears. They dry out way too quickly, and the rings down by the feed/nib section always got ink under them and no matter how well i wiped them off, later tbey would tranfer ink to my fingers. Ya, they do function as a fountain pen, and they have a great variety of colors and designs. Plus, they are cheap, er, inexpensive. I just put 5 of them in the good will bag, kept 2 of the 750s. Can't speak to the 149, but from where I sit, another Jinhao junk. I'd sooner wast $10.00 on any other pen then Jinhao. My opinion only, as some love them. Still, I try to never miss the chance of calling them crap at every opportunity I can. I'm no FPen snob, but I enjoy better pens, and I'm willing to spend the extra to be able to use them. I buy Ben & Jerrys ice cream in their pint size containers at the price they cost, not the 5 gal. container of vanilla sugary swill that tastes horrible. Same cost, two way different products. Save your dollars, buy a quality fountain pen, enjoy the experience, not just endure it! You want to write with crap, go get a feather cut a point, and start dipping... .
@strshooter being true to his username lol. Yeah, they are cheap, nibs are hit or miss. This 159 does dry up sometimes. Good pens to practice nib grinds on, or modify, or make frankenspens. You can get a basic TWSBI, lamy, or others for a bit more & get a WAY better pen!
@@Doodlebud I have purchased 3 of the Kaweco Sport line, a Navy blue, a transparent green, and just now, the AL limited edition in brown (almost 3x the cost of the plastic models). I'm taken with how well these write and work. It's an old design (1911) from a German company. It would be nice if converter and clip were included, but not a large cost if you want those items. They seem like a bargain to me, the plastic ones for sure, the AL one, eh? ... it's Christmas, I wanted one. :-) .
@@strshooter7399 dunno man, i am enjoying my jinhaos... diff of opinions
@@countlitmogaphil392 I’m going to stop running Jinhao fountain pens down. It’s apparent they work very well for some folks, and for that I’m glad. The didn’t work for me, but hey, there are so many fountain pens out there and they don’t have to be expensive to be special for someone. I’m using a Kaweco Golden Expresso AL Sport as a eye dropper (F) and it just works so well for me. I’ve got a bunch of way more expensive F pens, but this little gem is my go to pen everyday. Who knew?? Good luck with your selection of your favorite pens 🤗👍😎.
@@strshooter7399 nahh, ofcourse you can express your own opinion, don't need to stop doing that bcos I said something, cos for me they have been working fine but not everything is meant for everyone
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