The controversy behind Turkey's move to reconvert Hagia Sophia into a mosque, explained
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- Turkey’s top administrative court on Friday annulled a 1934 government decree that converted Istanbul’s iconic Hagia Sophia into a museum, paving the way for the iconic building to be turned back into a mosque.
Built during the Byzantine empire, the Hagia Sophia was at the heart of Christendom for some 900 years before being converted to a mosque during the reign of the Ottoman Empire.
Now, Turkey’s current president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, is pushing to have it reverted to a place of worship in a move that has triggered outrage around the globe.
To understand the controversy, we need to go back to its origins in the sixth century.
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They did...
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Whataboutsm doesnt help the wrong
I don't know if Global News was around back in 1967 when Israel invaded East Jerusalem because Jordan along with other Arab countries instigated a war to conquer and destroy Israel. Yes, it was a capture of territory, but if you think that was an injustice, then so was the Ottoman Turkish aggression against the Byzantine Empire.
Oh yes, Jerusalem, the historically Jewish city right.
Lol there was Kingdom of Israel with Jerusalem as capital than any semblance of a political entity called palestine 🤣😂🤣 which itself means "invader" in Hebrew n Phoenician
To Global news: The Agia Sophia was built on european soil before it was stolen by turks.
You can also said that American continent are "stolen" instead of "conquered", it's not like the Turks just came and said "hey dude, this land is mine now"
hagia Sophia was built before Islam even existed
Irwin Russell yeah i know but why are christians angry at it being a mousque its their country what can we do about ok but when it was a museum nobody really questioned anything about it to become a church
Faris theGamer50 ... Probably because the decision to change the building to a mosque was a political one, when I was in Istanbul last year the changes were already being made, the court decision was just a rubber stamp. I can ask the same question of you, why did so many people want the church changed to a mosque when there are plenty of mosques in Istanbul?
@Zakaria Ali no, merely observant
All I’m saying is if the Uk started something like this there would be massive outcry of rage even though it’s their sovereign right like what everyone is saying about this current situation
What are you talking about, UK invaded all the Muslim world?? And gave away the holiest site in the Muslim world Jerusalem to Israel?? 😅😅 I am amazed that ppl write things like this as if they never read a history book
Pls tell something about Spain converted mosque's into Church?
It belongs to orthodoxy
Deal with it
@@iaintgivingumyname9481 lol
Funny
It belongs to the true God of Abraham… The Vatican is next! God is with us
In your dream!!
The Great Cathedral of Hagia Sohia. You can change everything but not her past.
Muhammad Al-Fatih bought it and there are still the papers in akara making Islamic property even the christians agreed to sell get your facts straight
Keep the history and keep thinking about it too. lol
@@kriboikal1717I say Europeans should reclaim Anatolia
I have expressed my reservations about this decision because I feel that it is not in keeping with the times. In any case, it will not help to ease tensions with the Orthodox, especially the Greeks and Russians. For almost 100 years the Hagia Sophia was a museum and therefore neutral and everything was good. The Muslims also had the blue mosque right next to it to pray and many other mosques around the city.
Istanbul not Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Oh Constantinople
Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night
Michelle Michelle like you go mad over a plus sign? ➕ 😂
@Michelle Michelle skin worshiper detected
Leo Marrone hahahahahhahahahahhahahah WIN !!!!!
Michelle Michelle come on plus sign worshipper. U can do better. Don’t run away now lol
@@syahvai You have pedo for a prophet.
Calm down mate
How would muslims feel if the dome on the rock was converted into a church
That would be “Islamophobia”.
Jerusalem occupied by zionist..the great mosque of cordoba converted to church by crusaders..stfu
You mean like when the crusaders turned it to horse stable when they conquered Jerusalem?
Irwin Russell that happened numerous times and we know how it feels no worries. plus, this wasnt an act against christianity you see, if there was such an intention numerous churches wouldn’t be protected as they are and kept safe and available to pray in. hagia sofia symbolises turkish sovereignty in istanbul and most people in turkey would love to be able to pray there that’s just why
she.exehasstoppedworking ... I understand what you are saying, Istanbul already has so many beautiful mosques available for prayer, you don’t need Hagia Sophia, it’s a power thing pushed by politicians. Ps I was in Istanbul last year during Ramadan & thought it was amazing, the people were kind & open, sadly situations like this only give ammunition to those who would spread hate
Talk how Spain converted mosques into churches too.
Spain did a good job, in comparison to Turkey!!!
@@Aluminium11 Plz dont cry. You can only talk. You can only cry while Turks invade europe.
You guys are being played by Erdogan, you were viewed as a strong secular country by the world, now you look like the radical fanatical stereotypes we have come to expect, next you’ll have sharia law & the descent into chaos will begin.
You're just deflecting with "whataboutism." Even if Spain were to hand back all the mosques which were converted to churches back in the Middle Ages, you would just point to some other injustice done against Muslims at some other place and time in history to justify the Hagia Sophia becoming a mosque. This kind of logical fallacy can be used to justify virtually anything! You don't have a good argument if the best you can do is appeal to a Medieval precedent from a less tolerant age to justify Turkey's actions in 2020.
@@irwinrussell1356 don't worry nothing will happen to you and your loved onces because Turkey's govt is not like your loving Israel govt who kills thousand of peoples and childrens every day and destroying their homes in palestine and still going but i know you all will not want hear it
In Spain many mosques were converted into churches some masjids were also converted into horse stables 😭😭😭😭but no one talk about that
That's true brother the islam is truth. How fast they get to now it's better for them.
Lots of people do talk about it as something that happened long ago. There's a massive difference between a Spanish mosque being converted into a church in the year 1236, as the Grand Mosque in Cordoba was, and the Hagia Sophia being converted to a mosque in 2020. Something that happened nearly 800 years ago is rather stale news today. If appealing to a Medieval precedent to justify's Turkey's current actions is the best you can do, then your argument is rather weak. But as long as you're deflecting from the topic at hand with "whataboutism," we could also talk about the Greek Orthodox churches which were converted into masjids (and others into horse stables) in North Cyprus following the Turkish invasion in 1974. That's far more recent than what happened many centuries ago in Spain.
@@photios4779 in april 1204 the 4th crusader army looted constantinople and burned hagia Sophia the symbol of orthodox christianity but today all Roman catholic Christians are concern about hagia Sophia 😂😂😂😂
@@zaidshaikh4935
Good point! Somebody knows their history 👌
@@zaidshaikh4935 orthodox are not Roman catholic lol you know so much
Bad idea. Will be very divisive between Christians and Muslims the effect of which will be felt in a long time. It was built by and for the Christians until the Muslim ottoman defeated constantinople. It was unlawful for Turkey to convert a Christian Church into a mosque. It better remain neutral as a museum, free from politics, a symbol of separation of theocracy and politics.the museum is a symbol of a secular turkey. Otherwise, complacency is like taking back steps comparative to the Current Iran regime.
You’re crying that Haja Sophia become a mosque, but don’t forgot what is happening in Palestina, Kashmir or what the western did do a historical city like Aleppo. The reality is when a Muslim country do in their country what others don’t like everyone start crying.
@@ashrc1889 You may be the dumbest person I've seen in this comment section. Now imagine if Christians conquered Saudi Arabia by force and decided to rebuild the Kabba as a church. It's clearly wrong.
@Abdirahman Idris typical to think that you are a Muslim but your history tells that your ancestors were Christians who were forced to convert to Islam just like what isis did. Generations after thank think they are Muslims but in fact their great great great grandparents were Christians who were forcibly converted otherwise they would have been killed.
they can only criticize but they themselves never go to church 😂😂😂. Blank
EARTHQUAKE
It should've stayed as a museum. It brought a great income.
@Cincinnati Reds Do you think tourists will want to visit a working mosque, with all the frescoes covered? Nope.
By Islamic law , we - as True Muslims - we must not convert or seize any Church ⛪️ into a Mosque 🕌 , Prophet Mohammed ( PBUH ) and his successors never ever done that nor made a recommendation regarding that and I believe in the contrary of that; prophet Mohammed was very wishful towards the freedom and liberty of others religions .... yet Allah has mentioned clearly in the Qur’an that ; there’s no compulsion in religion ! :
Holy Quran 2:256
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لَا إِكْرَاهَ فِي الدِّينِ ۖ قَد تَّبَيَّنَ الرُّشْدُ مِنَ الْغَيِّ ۚ فَمَن يَكْفُرْ بِالطَّاغُوتِ وَيُؤْمِن بِاللَّهِ فَقَدِ اسْتَمْسَكَ بِالْعُرْوَةِ الْوُثْقَىٰ لَا انفِصَامَ لَهَا ۗ وَاللَّهُ سَمِيعٌ عَلِيمٌ
“ No compulsion is there in religion. Rectitude has become clear from error. So whosoever disbelieves in idols and believes in God, has laid hold of the most firm handle, unbreaking; God is All-hearing, All-knowing.”
So , as Muslims, our constitution are the Qur’an as well, what Prophet Mohammed had said or done ✅
Therefore; Hagia Sophia has to be given back to the Christians , period!
This is absolutely not a complement nor a hypothesis or hypocrisy , this is the truth and the reality !!!
Sam Shraim Thank you, a lone voice of reason in a desert of hate, have a blessed day
I am glad that there are folks like you. The truth though, as hard as it may be to admit it, is that your founder did his fair share of invading, pillaging, and oppressing Christians. His followers just carried on in the same way after his death. This is really the history. If Muslims truly learned the history and how their religion spread with the sword, no one in their right mind would consider the founder a prophet. BUT, most Muslims are unaware of the atrocities he committed. If the founder of Islam had been peaceful, then Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Syria, Egypt would all be Christian countries even today. I invite you to read the history how the Christians in these countries were forced to convert to Islam.
Sam Shraim Thank you brother ❤️
Irwin Russell @
You’re very welcome
Sincerely thank you
Eufrosnia D @
Truly speaking; I can easily smell and see the hatred in between your words! So I am gonna briefly reply to your hatred by the following verse:
Holy Quran 3:119
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هَا أَنتُمْ أُولَاءِ تُحِبُّونَهُمْ وَلَا يُحِبُّونَكُمْ وَتُؤْمِنُونَ بِالْكِتَابِ كُلِّهِ وَإِذَا لَقُوكُمْ قَالُوا آمَنَّا وَإِذَا خَلَوْا عَضُّوا عَلَيْكُمُ الْأَنَامِلَ مِنَ الْغَيْظِ ۚ قُلْ مُوتُوا بِغَيْظِكُمْ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ بِذَاتِ الصُّدُورِ
Ha, there you are; you love them, and they love you not; you believe in the Book, all of it, and when they meet you they say, 'We believe,' but when they go privily, they bite at you their fingers, enraged. Say: 'Die in your rage; God knows the thoughts in the breasts.'
* Lastly, in very fewer years ( mainly a couple) you’re going to see The Who truth ! Only Islam will fill up the earth with justice, stability and peace as it has been filled up with injustice, oppression and tyranny ! Soon a Muslim leader from Prophet Mohammed ( not as you described as founder ) linage will do so .....
Do you think you praying in Hagia Sophia will bring you to heaven ? İt's means nothing if you still have envy.. greedy.. sex abuse .. hate.. liars .. children marriage (there's a lot children marriage in Turkey) etc
This wouldn't bring anyone closer to heaven. But this is another stab to the Heart of the Christian world by using this great church as a symbol of Muslim Supremacy and not of Compassion or tolerance of the foe they defeated.. very strange when islamics five years ago asked the Turkish president to make Aya Sofia mosque. He said first why don't you fill up the Blue Mosque and we'll see about Hagia Sophia
Religious sentiment has always been used as a political tool. Kings, conquerers and presidents no different.
There is a Great Grand Mosque of Cordoba, Andalusia, Modern Spain.
The Christian King Converted it into A church in 1236AD ,
When that Mosque Will become a Mosque again?
Oh? What was it before it was a Grand Mosque? Do tell.
Soyab Mostofa ... True
@Cincinnati Reds Which pagan temple? Dedicated to whom? Pagans that converted to Christianity and re-dedicated the temple to a church?
Throughout history we only had a few rulers tolerant and accepting of all and allowing all to be preserved as it originally was but the Turkish president isn’t one of them he isn’t a Saladin he is like the bad Christian/Muslim/Jewish and so on rulers who oppressed and went against everything which wasn’t theirs.
What Turkey's business within their own country is of no concern to me, likewise should be for other countries.
chλrles .... sure & what Adolf Hitler did in his country was no concern of anyone’s?
You think Istanbul belongs to turkey?
@@cantagiousca5220 When Istanbul was conquered by the Turks, America had not yet been discovered.
@@_Redronin_ ... & when Hagia Sophia was built Islam didn’t exist! 🤷♂️
@@irwinrussell1356 It's none of my business, I don't believe in religion.
Seriously, how it's a controversy?
Turks a muslims who are proud what they are, they fought mongols and defeated them where as crusaders supporting cruelty of mongols. We are ONE all muslims as ummate Mohammadi. May Allah bless us all ummah.
Stop this maniac before it is too late.
Who ?
I BET.... it’s a toss up between Trump or Erdogan
You maniac ,1453 Fatih sultan mehmet Aya sofia mosque..
Unknown Queen that would be Turkey your majesty
Then stop it. Insyaallah Allah Will stop you before your first step
Ataturk didn't make hagia_sophia museum to respect religious heritage but to develop or promote secularism in turkey.
Though it was also his political move/decision but world of some Muslim and majority non Muslims didn't see any politics there.
they only can find political benefits when it comes to Islam or to the Muslim ummah. what a hypocrite so called moderate world we have!
😂😂😂😂
It not only respects the orthodox christians but also the muslims if it stayed a museum
Why erdogen converted this in 2020
Is this not something fishy?
Also if erdogen is saying he did it for islam
Then i have a simple question to erdogen, instead of converting hagia sofia, he should stopped the intaking of alcohol which u find in turkey and many muslims drinks it
Also he should quit nato
These r basics things which he needs to do for islam
But instead he converted hagia sofia
100%true
... & now he wants to convert Chora Church ... another UNESCO site... to a mosque, does this guy know how badly this reflects on Islam which condemns the conversion of holy places to mosques?
Spot on bro!
@Abdirahman Idris The Chora Church was built in the 6th century BC. and was converted by the Ottomans into a mosque in the 16th century.
It has been operating as a museum since 1945, however, after the decision of the Council of State in 2019, it was turned into a mosque. Chora church was not bought, Islamic law is a joke
@Abdirahman Idris you should check your facts, Hagia Sophia AND Chora church have been converted to mosques all to suit Erdogans political ambitions
On CBC do you suppose this story would have comments disabled? Anything other than the weather report is too controversial for the CBC to allow public opinion on.
I see Hagia Sophia makes the world cry but Jerusalem,Palestine,Kashmir are invisible cus it’s alright to demolish Muslim structures isn’it
They have demolished too, so it is expected that people don’t care
Yeah bcuz there are just selfish with themselves
Well Jerusalem was originally Jewish so idk but at the same time all three faiths have done terrible things especially over Jerusalem so idk what to say about that
Alright alright
First since the jewish community came into Israël NOTHING has heen destroyed in Jerusalem no mosque no church no anything, second people are fighring in kashmir so don't worry about that
Final
Hagia sophia was a Byzantine church, and everyone could visit muslims Christians everyone! But now it is becomming a mosque, no Christians can come there to pray so just keep it for everyone so everyone is happy!
Lord McQuakIt no there is a part still for Christians open for them to visit ok ? Search for it and also yh people r fighting in Kashmir throwing harmless rocks against the Indian army because they have no other choice and the Indians are taking advantage of this finally the Jewish actually have tried to take over the dome of the rock because it is natural that they would want to rebuild their temple again but it’s not Muslim people fault it was destroyed so they have no right to occupie Palestinian territory
The reporter forgot to mention that most of the Byzantine people converted to Islam and prayed in it as a mosque, and it's up to these people to use their buildings as they wish, because if it stayed as a church it would be empty.
Prussian Hamster wrong innocent people weren’t targeted
Prussian, absolutely not true most of them even had healthcare and financial aid, so they had a choice to live in a city with healthcare and safety or go live in barbaric Europe 😅 anyone would choose Islam at that time
@@prussianhamster one more thing Mohammad AlFatih brought Christians from out side of the city to pray in its churches but they simply didn't and those churches remained empty and this is why it was changed to mosques.
@@grey4205 we never did conquer other countries but we never forced them to follow our religion they just followed it on there own.
Janissaries began as elite corps made up through the devşirme system of tribute, by which young Christian boys, notably Albanians, Bosnians, Bulgarians, Greeks and Serbs, were taken from the Balkans, enslaved and converted to Islam, and incorporated into the Ottoman army.
As long as there is Quran-Hadith in the world, there will be no peace in the world .....
As long we have so called Christ followers we’ll not find any peace in the world
Ummi Wahidah unlike Islam, christianity doesn’t encourage you to become terrorists and we don’t believe in a pedophile “prophet”
@@kintaman6396 he didn’t treat her as a wife all that happend is she lived with him and he never held her above his own daughters
As long we have hate mongers like you, there will be no peace in the world
dont disrespect islam, the religion is built on peace and mutual respect. I am a christian but demonizing an entire group of people because you dont like them is not at all a good, christian thing to do. god bless
No mention of Unesco. The place was falling apart and Ataturk begged Unesco to preserve it. That's why it was converted to a museum.
I'm Turkish, and I don't agree with Erdogan. Hagia Sophia should be available for muslims on Fridays and Christians on Sundays. This way it would be fair.
wow that would be ideal, chirstians and muslims sharing a holy site like that, would love to see that one day
Worship Allah and tomorrow worship Jesus in the same place ?!!! are your brain is OK ? It’s a mosque since 1453 shame on you
@@FidoDido-2000 No one in Turkey wants the country to be a religious one, because as we all see every country run by Islamic law is dying in ruins, Thx u come again, and I hope we can send all refugees home and return to the good old days :)
Lol Isn't mixing worship?
B. Ozd. There are many beautiful mosques in turkey, could this not have been shared with all people as a museum. Next people will complain about the images & they will be covered.
I am not a Christian nor a religious person, but I am a History buff and i have no problem with Turkey converting it back to a Mosque unless it begins covering up all the remaining Byzantine mosaics and not allowing people to enter, other than that i am fine but a thing that outraged me was they saying Mustafa Kemal Ataturk conversion to a Museum was unlawful, Are you out of your minds, the most outrageous thing i heard that is both stupid and wrong, literally Turkey's government has betrayed their founder's principles and policies of a Secular Turkey and of the idea of Turkey being a Republic. This isn't the Ottoman Empire, this is Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's Republic of Turkey.
Senator Constantine Byzantius Caesar, true
Adults with imaginary friends are dangerous...
And what? Atheistic men have caused more deaths than all religions combined, look at the 20th century look at stalin castro Mao North Korea Argentina, etc They killed millions upon millions
Daniel Kepler adults with imaginary friends are dangerous and need help...
@@epiccollision Ignoring his evidence and you keep on screeching.
@DistriktA what's the difference if the outcome is the same Mr big brain?
@Jack Black Fine, name any good atheist leader who didn't commit genocide or murder.
If you want to insult someone's intelligence, at least have the courtesy to write a correct sentance.
Spain and Portugal converted old mosques into churches = acceptable
Turkey converted museum int mosque = unacceptable
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Well said 👍😅
Ok you have a point but what happened in spain and portugal was before international rule, and that time they weren't considered a world heritage site, if Israelis take over al masjid al aqsa and turn it into suleiman's temple would you find it acceptable? Would the world see it as acceptable?
False analogy. You meant to say the Spanish converted their mosques to churches that were churches before they were forcibly made mosques. The Mezquita, for example, was previously the Basilica of Saint Vincent.
@@Notatroltrustme bla bla bla
Yes bro!
Spain & Portugal reconverted their churches and basilica built before islam even exists = unacceptable
Turkey converted a ROMAN era basilica in which turkey wasnt even exist into mosque by occupation = acceptable
😂🤣😂
Lol muslim historical understanding in a nutshell....
cordoba cathedral was built by muslims tho
@@pu1317 taken from the Iberian-Gothic Christians who already had Basilica of St. Vincent in the area. While Hagia Sophia was indefinitely taken by people who didnt even exist when it was built.
The difference: Iberians managed to retake their treasure, while the Greeks didnt.
Might add that the current structure of the cathedral was based on the Visigothic architecture, famed for its horseshoe arch. In fact, the pale marble pillars (the unpainted one) were from the the St. Vincent's, remnants of mosaics beneath the umayyad structure, and decorative sculptures depicting biblical scenes that were used as patches during the umayyad rule, now all are available to see on the museum inside the cathedral.
@Dapper Canuck Muslims like to use other religion's sacred places as their foundation. The Hagia Sophia was a mosque until Mustafa Ataturk built modern Turkey on being secular and turned it into a museum. Erdogan, in his pursuit to bring back the middle ages, is turning it back into a mosque.
وَقُل لِّلَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ اعْمَلُوا عَلَىٰ مَكَانَتِكُمْ إِنَّا عَامِلُونَ (١٢١) وَانتَظِرُوا إِنَّا مُنتَظِرُونَ (١٢٢) هود
And say to those who do not believe, "Work according to your position; indeed, we are working.
And wait, indeed, we are waiting." (Quran 11 :121,122)
Mohamed Ameen
1 Corinthians 15:33
Do not be deceived: “Bad company ruins good morals.”
It's very common in every Muslim majority country, not happening for the first time.
What about mosques in Israel, India, Spain getting converted ?! ...... won't talk about that .... won't you ?!
@@recaitheshrewd Well people from every religion hold faiths and believes. We are no one to question someone's faith or believe. Religions don't have scientific proves but still religious peoples believes in them. So if at any place many religions living together then every religion must respect other religions also. If you have honesty then do little bit of Google search and you'll find now entire EU is against peace loving religion. WHY? Because peace lovers are so stubborn and extremist that they believe and respect only their religion and always try to convert peoples from other religions. Let me give you some proves -
1. In 1947 Pakistan had almost 22% Hindu population but now it has less than 1% Hindu. Have you ever tried to find the answer or show me a single person from peace loving community who has raised his/her voice for it.
2. In 1971 Bangladesh has 30% Hindus and now they have only 7%. I believe it sounds good to you and you will never speak about it.
3. what peace lovers tried to do with Israel in 6 day war we all know that. There are 6 peace loving countries which are constantly trying to finish the existence of Israel but as usual when those peace lovers won't get success at their cruel missions then they start playing victim card game at which they are best.
4. A lot of peace lovers were saying killing of Samuel Paty was justified but I have never seen anyone from peace loving community who has opposed it.
5. Why Babri mosque was converted into a temple in India? Because it is already proved that before mosque there was a temple and peace lovers demolished that temple and built mosque on it. Hindutva ideologues claim that 60,000 temples were demolished under Muslim rule. Like I said you cannot question anyone's religious faith. So if Hindus claimed there was a temple in a Hindu majority country then you have to believe it. Hindus are not requesting for land in Saudi to build a temple.
Like the above five points I can give you a lot of points. So what exactly I'm trying to say here? My point is go through history and you'll find every where peace lovers stared the extreme religious activity and when other religions fight back they start playing victim card. So don't hurt anyone's sentiment first and no one will convert a mosque. I believe I have talk about your question and I'm expecting logical and evidence based answer from you for my above five points.
@kell casd Good, who is stopping you to do so? Only thing which I would expect from you and your entire community is that whenever the same thing will happen elsewhere in the world and some country's government convert a mosque into a church just don't start playing VICTIM CARD game. It's my only request to you and your community.
make the Hagi Sophia into a church.
@Turk Kartal Make turkey into a prostitution ring.
@Turk Kartal
Oh really ! Did your religion or your mama not teach you how to respect "women"'. and how to behave like a civilized human being?
If you are living in Europe I suggest you leave asap or better still don't come.
Remember, spain, and phalisten mosques....
Tayyab erdogan lion of islam ❤
Pakistan always with turky 😎❤
Why there's nothing ever heard about the Great Mosque of Cordoba??
Where's the Catholic Pope or high rank official stand about this??
Claims it (Mosque of Cordoba) as one of your holy church, yet try to turn the heat on Muslims while they do the same as yours??
Lol exactly, they forget the fact how they converted people through bloodshed
It's criminal act of turki
Nah it's just what u hypocrite deserve. Masjids in non Muslim countries are being demolished and converted into bars and club ... No one bats an eye ... Hagia Sophia REVERTED to a mosque and everyone loses their mind.
@@mohdhamza770 Babri masjid destroyed in india and we are building our ram temple over it...Because previously our temple demolished
@@nikhil5680 there's no clear evidence that the structure beneath was "Ram Mandir" could be anything. The report provided by archeological authority of India was highly vague.. But I'm just glad the case is closed now.
@@mohdhamza770 Can you please prove this? send just 1 link.
@@Alex.kpc. will you give us proof that thier was a temple🙃🙃🙃🙃
Ridiculous and shameful to let down such a museum!!
Hagia Sophia is part of the Historic Areas of Istanbul, a property inscribed on UNESCO’s World Heritage List.
A WORLD heritage.. got it Erdogan!?
Islam has always been about conquest.
Do u think the christian will give hagia sophia to muslim peacefully? Sure we have to conquer it 😄👍😝
BREAKING NEWS!!!!! Greek Government in talks to convert Kemal's birth house in Thessaloniki into a brothel. And reconvert all Turkish mosque into a Christian church.
For those who do not know .. Sultan Mehmed II, known as (Muhammad Al-Fatih) after the conquest of Constantinople, offered the priests to purchase the Hagia Sophia building from his own money and not from the state’s money or from the Muslims ’money house, and a personal deal was done that has nothing to do with his job in the state The transaction was documented through a purchase and waiver contract, and the payment was proven by payment vouchers. Immediately, he established a waqf (association), gave up the association on his estate, and the name of the waqf was beatified This rocked Turkey a few weeks ago, so a manual review of 27,000 documents was found, among them was an original title deed (Tabu) clearly showing private ownership of the property. Thus, the owners of the property submitted an application to use the property with absolute freedom as it is their private property, and their request was to return the building to a mosque They have also used it since the day it was purchased
Yeah after being stripped of their citizenship in what you call dhimmitude where a non believer has no right to do otherwise
Once a person is a second class citizen they have no other way but to do so and not to mention the jizya they had to pay them but of course none of this is ever mentioned you always cry wolf we know you by your fruits molded and decayed and filthy absolutely filthy
@@aliceinwonderland610 Truth hurts for them....double standards....🤔
Cause religion of piss
@@aliceinwonderland610 first of all, this "second class citizen" are happening anywhere, had the Catholic conquered the Constantinople, the same thing will happen, orthodox Christian will become second class and hegia Sophia will be in possession of the pope disregarding the patriarch, secondly jizya is just a tax, obviously you will have to pay it in order to live in the country, pretty sure all European kingdoms back then collect taxes from peasant,
@@trihermawan9553 oh and now you need to cover up because the key words were mentioned and you need to attract attention on other parts of history
😁😂 European countries crying
Using international media
Rip European
It has a title deed as a mosque and reinstated. Its open for all. The building changed hands through conquest and revolution but was preserved and maintained by the king and president. Turkey never denied it was a historical church for 800 years then a mosque another 700 . Indian government confiscated 1000 years ancient mosque from its worshippers and awarded hindu community and there was zero international condemnation - that ruling open the gates many underlying issues
first: that was nowhere near 1000 year old it was made by babur
second: babur destroyed Ram Temple to construct a masjid in name of his gay lover the hindus just fought back for it
third: you muslims like are a plague breaking and destroying our Christian churches may it be Istanbul or jerusalem y'all are the most cruel demons on this planet
I just noticed that the video is heavily... what's the word? Oh yes; biased. There are more layers to this than the video has covered. Firstly; just because Hagia Sophia is being converted into a mosque again does not mean that other religious people can't see it. Literally no one will push you out the door because you'r an orthodox. Second; the reason why the law made in 1934 was banned is because of many things, it is not just a political statement. Number one reason was that there are conspiracies about the signature of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk being fake. Long story short, it's because he officially gained his surname later to this event and his signature contained his surname. Number Two; is because in the Sultans will he stated that he did not wan't Hagia Sophia to be converted to anything other then a mosque. Because it is his official will even if people wanted it to happen out of respect, techinally it had to be done because like I said it is indeed his dying will.
Third; A lot of people in Turkey ALSO don't want it to be converted. Both muslim and non muslim ones. So if it is indeed just a political statement; then I can assure you it wasn't exactly %100 bullet proof. Erdogan or AKP won't won the elections just bc they did this.
Lastly; I want people to actually read Hagia Sophia's history, look at multiple news coverings and THEN form an opinion. The things some people barfed in this comment section make me want to both laugh and cry. Good day!
N.A. I don’t disagree with you but how would you feel if Christians & Jews were allowed to pray in Mecca?
@@irwinrussell1356 To be completely honest; I wouldn't care. If me a budhist, a jew or etc. came and prayed there while respecting each others religion and boundries why would I be hostile? I understand the opposite ends both have wants and needs in this situation; but I think Hagia Sophia being converted into a mosque as a better thing then it staying a museum. This way every religion is allowed to pray in it; the only requirements being wearing proper attire and respecting boundries. Sorry for the long answer but TL;DR as long as people respect me and allow me to be free then I WILL respect them as well. Not only is it a requirement in Islam; but it is also my personal value to be kind and respectful towards people regardless of their sexuallity,race or religion.
@@n.a.1781 sorry but what is your faith?
@@n.a.1781 but u can't pray in hagia sophia if your anything but a Muslim how is that fair if it was open to both Christian and Muslims then that would be ok but its not
You know what some day hopefully all things originally Jewish all things originally Christian and all things originally Muslim will be returned to what they rightfully belonged to which means I hope Hagia Sophia will become a Church again.
Agia Sofia, spoke. One year after it’s second sacrilege, already said a lot. Let’s just think how turkey was one year ago, and how it is today. I respect wholly wisdom. Through that last year i was just observing the words, and so I respect wholly wisdom more, now.
I don’t understand the controversy. Visitors of all faiths are still allowed to visit. I was there this past summer. Christian pictures have not been removed. What is the issue? If Muslims want to pray there then allow them. Christians should be more concerned with the thousands of churches around the world being closed due to non-attendance.
Earthquake!
That earthquake must have been Jesus Christ saying muslims tainted his house
Churches of non-attendance are a concern in the West, not in the rest of global Christendom.
Today i eat one kebap 🤗 taste good.
Wash it down with some bacon enjoy
@@aliceinwonderland610 According to the Bible, Jesus will punish you for eating bacon. Have a good day.
@@Illyrian_Warrior and God will punish you for eating shell fish because according to the real tanakh you are eating something just as dirty as pig
Funny how you think you worship the true God but go around killing and doing Gods work have a nice day cheers
@@Illyrian_Warrior oh yes hypocrites!!!
@@aliceinwonderland610 And replying to the shellfish thing, it is allowed in the Quran, God says in the Quran you can eat from anything from the sea. God says in His book that He forbade good things for the Jews as a punishment for them. God have only forbidden anything that was already dead when you found it, pig, blood, animals that has been mistreated while alive, or stabbed to death, or not slain in the name of God, and intoxicants.
India demolished a mosque and converted to temple no one speaks and suddenly the world is awake🤣😂
Babri moque was built by destroying ram temple and more such acts of reclaiming all the temples will be carried.
We have nothing against muslims but they cant break my temples. Hinduism is a ten thousand years old continuing culture. Our stuff precedes everything
@@Shiva-bq5oz oh ok then its a battle of abrahamic religions stop poking noses. If usa can give jarusalem to israel this is nothing.
Yes! Let these people know the truth!
Abdullah Arshad india never demolished Taj Mahal..
@@abdullaharshad5052 you know that your whole religion is based on Christianity and Hinduism right? Your self-proclaimed "prophet" traveled a lot and was inspired by the holy Bible to make his own religion.
This building was a CHRISTIAN cathedral when built 900 years ago. Now not only is it no longer that, but the 17 year Turkish President has converted it into a Mosque for Muslims. Unbelievable.
Hagia Sophia will be a Cathedral of Christian again one day! Amen!
In your dream
Spain will be Muslim again, ameen.
🥱 even not in 1000 years
Look at Israel/Jerusalem the Jews need 1000+ years to get it back! Finally they get it back!! We will get Constantinople again that is our place you Turki attacked it!! That is not the Turkish land!! Constantinople is not a Turki land!!
@@robinhood8663 Look at Israel/Jerusalem the Jews need 1000+ years to get it back! Finally they get it back!! We will get Constantinople again that is our place you Turki attacked it!! That is not the Turkish land!! Constantinople is not a Turki land!!
One thing this channel didn't say that When it was church ottoman emperor bought from Christian. So, there can't be any debate about why it's turning into a Mosque.
Istanbul will soon be Constantinople again. There is a storm coming.
In your dream?
@@melihsahin4448 Nope. It's prophesied that turkey will get annexed by greece and russia.
It is in our lands, our country, in İstanbul. This situation is nobody's business.
But it was a church first darling ! And i am not christian
@@joenroute9646 so whats the matter? It is in turkey teritorry. We can do everything we want 😊👍
Israel put smile on you while thinking of Al Aqsa.
*But the Turks*... I'll leave now.
@@rainbowbabe984 Lol! If Christian turned Mosque in to Church in UK, you would say its Islamaphobia...
Just saying
Europe again defeated by tayyab ordagan
If conquer convert formula is ur bravery than Islam got defeated literally
Europe defeated by Erdogan 😂😂😂😂
Good jop Turkey ❤️👍
PAKISTAN ,SAUDIA RAB , QATAR ,DUABAI , OMAN AND BAHRAIN , AND YEMEN
***STAND WITH TURKEY***
***great work***
the true. Ooh, I wonder why?
Insallah 24 July with jamaaa I'm.pray in hagia Sophia mosque thank u Allah wait me istanbol ☝️
Long live Christianity ,
@@coreykendell4803 It won't last much longer. Look at the statistics.
@@coreykendell4803 a Swedish convert greeting u
@@NoName-ys7co lol
I want to pray in Mecca 🕋 they need a bit of Christianity ✝️ there
I'm a Muslim myself and I'm disappointed about what happened on the Haga Sophia museum, I don't support the divide by the Erdogan political disgusting move.
@@jaydenlobo940 nop I live in Tunisia and it's a secular country that have all kinda of religious people, women rights and freedom of speech.
Churches places are respected here !
Heresy!
how is orthodoxy heresy if its a catholic commenting this just a reminder that the Catholic Church is heretic their pope is satanic and if its a protestant like bruh your church was built by a monk who created it just cuz people had to give money to the Catholic Church and the protestant church give no importance to Mary wanna have a debate
The Vatican is next… God is with us!
Okay if Turkey thinks this is morally okay then they can not say anything when Israel turns the al-Aqsa Mosque into the 3rd temple.
Muslims didn't break your temple. So u can't turn Al Aqsa mosque into temple
Of course they can. It’s their “sovereign” right, just like Erdogan said.
@@farhanmohammad4807 Which was built first, Solomon's Temple or Al-Aqsa Mosque? By the way I'm Christian. but I want the 3rd temple to be built for the return of Our Lord Jesus.
I’m a fan of what the Chinese are doing. Ripping down mosques in Xinjiang, and replacing them with public toilets. Whether or not god exists?….”You get what you give” is a rule of this world, one way or another.
This is nothing but a declaration that turkey is not secular anymore....... What a shame.....
To appreciate what just happened we need to envision St. Peter’s Basilica in the Vatican as a Mosque.
You dont have to make a fake example to prove your point for Catholics to understand. Just look at the mosque of Cordoba that was turned into a Cathedral (and still is) in Spain. I see you are Greek so we can even look closer to home for you. Fethiye mosque in Athens is now expo hall. Tzisdaraki mosque in Athens is now a ceramics museum, Hamza Bey Mosque in Thessaloniki is now a museum, Yeni Mosque in Thessaloniki is an expo hall etc etc etc. You guys only whine when it happens to you despite you guys doing the exact same thing forever
You will see.
God Willing
@@FaDeFaKiEe You're comparing the past to current day actions.
I mean, I understand that your ideas, and lifestyle are very primitive compared to the West. But seizing holy grounds and converting them to another religion is not something civilised people do.
"We", grew out of it. Time for you to grow up also.
@@pkz420 well to be fair; it was a church, the a mosque then a museum. It was holly grounds; and it will be again. So technically it's not converting it to another religion. It WAS a mosque before. Also considiring that it was a church before and they should change it to that you may be correct. But considering that Turkey is a mostly muslim country and they were the ones who fought for Hagia Sophia to be a mosque again; I think this was the smartest thing to do.
@Jay How do you think Turkey, which was a vibrant Catholic city, became predominantly Muslim? Do you think they went door to door and said 'would you like to believe in our prophet and his book?'. No, they oppressed, forced, and eventually committed genocide in 1915-17. A genocide that the Muslims Turkish leaders deny to this day.
Constantinople not turky
Can’t understand why other countries would dare to interfere Turkey’s souvereignity rather than fixing their own problem. It’s their homeland, let them decide what they want to do with it. Very sure non of the outside countries would like anyone from outside to interfere their domestic issues.
I would be fine with this if they didn’t cover every previous writing on the wall with marble and quartz, they locked the higher floors and stuff so only the middle part is possible to enter, I was there today and I was upset because they literally covered the walls and erased writing, it would have been fine if it were a mosque, but at least leave a part of history there and some stairs available
Precisely,and then to speak about respect, pure blasphemy!
@@jappiehogenberg1656Islam has no respect for anyone...
Constantinople will rise again
Mehmad : 🤣🤣 i destroyed it...hundred years ago
... you will find fossils of constantinople
@@shekhferoz1035 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂ooo bro insane reply
@Fahad Ahmad what a reply
We not converted to Mosque ,
Hagia Sophia Always a Mosque ,
And today will be opened again ...
It was a Cathedral and then converted to a mosque before being converted into a museum
Lol.. Guess who built it 🤣😂😂😂.. Fkn
notorious ros Roman’s 😂
İ said for Victory time later’s 😂💪
YOU people are morons who do not know history! Go ahead and do whatever you want. One day, we will take it all back and Islam will be no more :)
hagia sophia is older than your religion
Turkey makes history again
NopalNasty ... Nazi Germany also made history
Ayasofia is still open to everyone , now it is the house of Allah , it's even better now , free entry , just need ablution before going in and a praying carpet . This move is a step for peace around the world
Your going to damage and plaster over the artwork and frescoes, that’s the biggest concern. If you Muslims are truly a religion of peace and justice, you’ll allow the Christian community in turkey to share use of the building and not damage the icons.
Jokester30 sure, allow us to pray in the Mosque of Córdoba in Spain.
Areeb's Mad Science I’m not the Pope, if you want to have a similar sharing arrangement with the Córdoba cathedral ask them.
@@jokester3076 islam is the only religion bro I invite you to join islam by reciting there's no god to worship but Allah alone and Muhammad pbuh is his last and final messenger.
Jesus Moses Abraham were also prophet of Allah. Jesus was not the son of God as it's strongly condemned in the final book of Allah The glorious Quran
@@jokester3076 that's idolatry and it's a big sin
Yess turkey 💪🇹🇷🇹🇷
MAKE TURKISH EMPIRE GREAT AGAIN!
Turkic Noker, Turkey was stolen from Christians, there were 4 days of pillage & rape after Constantinople fell including boys under 10. You are a nation of shame
@@irwinrussell1356 I'm backing you.
Turkic Noker ...sure & we can reintroduce slavery to help it along!
Saudi (Wahabi) and Iran (Shia) says: Hold my beer! 😜
ray naissance 😂😂😂😂
People never understood the problem and those who understood the problem are called islamapobic
Really? Then tell us about the mosques that are converted to Churches in old Europe.
@@youssefrabiea3900 right. MEDIEVAL TIMES.
Right bro
Those who understood the hypocrisy and double standard are called radical Islamist, political islam and salafist.
Youssef Rabiea that’s like saying that Islamic jihadis are a problem and then bringing up the crusades which happened in a time where everyone was incredibly violent and barbaric and just flat out stupid.
Sophia, not just a church, was the last defensive fortress of the Byzantines!
Following the conquest of Constantinople, Sultan Muhammad the Conqueror's religious tolerance and unwavering zeal have been hailed by all European historians as exemplary of the conqueror's character and morals during the medieval religious wars.
Was Sophia not just a church? It was the last defensive siege of the Byzantines. That is why at the time of the conquest of Constantinople, the Byzantines gathered in Sophia for their last defense. Sophia was a center of the nation for them, and within the Crusaders. It created a sense of defense and protection, not as a place of worship but as a defensive fortress. That is why Sultan Muhammad the Conqueror called all the Christians who had migrated from Constantinople to one side and returned to Constantinople with happy packages. He renovated and renovated all the churches in New York, set up a new system, exempted them from taxes, gave them the same powers as the governor and included them in his cabinet, and on the other hand demolished Sophia and built a mosque there. If the Sultan was opposed to the churches, how could he announce all the above-mentioned privileges for all the Christian community and churches?
Of course, this was because the Sultan also knew whether Sophia was more of a defensive fortress and a center of Christianity than the Senate, so it had to be demolished, and a contract or price paid to build a mosque there.
The real abuse of Sofia was committed by Kamal Ataturk, who, like a secular dictator, turned a Muslim synagogue into a museum, deviating from the so-called secularist policy (religious tolerance).
The real problem for our liberals is not the restoration of Sophia or the mosque, but the conquest of Constantinople. If they can, they will not only re-establish Sophia as a church, but also replace Istanbul with the descendants of King Constantine. The restoration of the Sofia Mosque is a great and historic achievement of Tayyip Erdogan, and it will be the starting point for breaking many other locks in the future.Not like the Christians of Andalusia who forcibly occupied it and turned it into a mosque. If it is so captivating, return it to the nearest mosque and return the price of Sofia and make Church...if hundred of mosque in spain can become church .....why cant hagia sofia be a mosque???
I’m sure all of those churches in New York were very grateful... Another Nut Job
Agia Sofia means holly wisdom. Literally. Wisdom ( not knowledge), is something universal, hasn’t sides that can be read this way or that way or another way. Wisdom, also speaks. One year after, words were spoken. Just think how turkey was one year ago, compared to now. Words were spoken.
Then can you give back our masjeed in spain that use for crouch and museum???? And we give your hagia sophia than give back all masjeed in europe that use for crouch, cathedral, and museum.
THE verses Spain was Christian before Islam came and it was all reclaimed by Christians Turkey was originally Christian before muslims came but has yet to be reclaimed back to Christianity
Even though Spain was originally Christian like turkey difference is that Christians reclaimed it unlike turkey which they have yet to. If I could, out of sheer kindness I would give back all of the Islamic stuff in Spain in return for Hagia Sophia. That sheer kindness comes from the fact that Jerusalem that had many different rulers has many buildings from all three abrahamic faiths even old Jewish stuff that remains Jewish and it was originally Jewish.
All Christians must wake up and be united and be brave and have a Spirit of POWER and fight and take back All Christian lands and properties and Churches which the Muslims invaded and conquered and converted to mosques.
what about mosques turned to churches? the christians started this way before. when arabs entered levant palestain and jerusalem they protected the churches and they stil working till that day. peace
The more places where God is worshipped the better!
Don't be afraid, The Church Hagia Sophia Will Be Back Into A Church, We Are Christians We Have LORD JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY.
Ayia sofia is Greek
Church 🇨🇦
Then why did Atatürk convert it into a museum anyway?
Beacuse at this time Turkey was secular state
Because he is dumb and dictator
SkyWalker Well, it's sad that secularism is decaying in favor of Islam in turkey
Because he is freemason member, he is one of the elite. His task is to destroy Islam and he did.
Komnenit gotta admit rather have it Christian then Islamic even Jewish over Islamic but secularism was the best choice but now it is stuck in the worst way possible. A mosque
Alhamdulillah. The Hagia Sophia was built as a Greek Orthodox church. During the Crusade, it was conquered and converted to a Roman Catholic church. It was converted again to a Greek Orthodox church during the Byzantines. In 1453, Sultan Fatih conquered Constantinople. He bought the Hagia Sophia (yes he purchased the Hagia Sophia) and there are documents to prove it, even though he had a right to get it for free since it was a military conquest. After the purchase, he converted it to a mosque. See the difference? Non-muslims simply destroyed mosques after every conquest (some are converted to nightclubs). So, kudos to Erdogan for setting it straight by converting it back to a mosque.
Mehmet the conqueror reminded me of Aegon the conqueror of game of thrones
Global news idea of modern society is secularism, isn't it backwards to think other ideas are backwards. May God Protect Turkey and Islam. Ameen
The west😭😭😭🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯!!! Its hilarious 😂!! God bless the Turks!!
Hmm, do you live in the “West”?
@@G-lighted Her name is Jenna...
@WorldVoices Israel is also none of your business
Jenna, God bless the Turkish people, please make better decisions in future
reasonable thing aya sofia as a mosque after sultan fatih conquer constantin, because prince isabela also in spain was changing mosque to church. I think this is logical reasonable when a civilization rise and fall.
So by your logic since the jews conqured Jerusalem they can do whatever they want with it...right??
anhar syahrial true but mosques converted into churches in spain is not as famous as the hagia sophia
.People forgot that Mr. Erdogan turn back site of tourist St. Gabriel first into cathedral in 2014, it already stand there for 1.600 years.
.People forgot that Muhammad Al Fatih before war did dialogue first with Roman Leader to solve problem between them, when Roman choose physical war and Al Fatih become leader there all churchs can stand still, people can pray with their own way, he just turn one building into mosque (Hagia Sofia) plus as place of political meeting.
What ?! I didn't understand what u just said.....
Good job Turkey , from UK 😘
No annexation, but Sultan TURK Al FATIH had bought HAGIA SOPHIA. So now HAGIA SOPHIA is LEGITIMATE for MUSLIMS
Hagia Sophia is never turkish or muslim's !
Cordoba Mosque
It...It is?
Cordoba mosque
@@riseofasia7683 was built as a church of St. Vincent in 380s, enlarged as a basilica in 500s AD 🤣😂🤣
@@riseofasia7683 a building built by invaders in 784 AD 😂🤣, retaken by Spaniards 1236 AD 😂🤣
3 World Factions: Mosque/Church/Museum | 2 World Factions: Religions/Secularism
You forgot synagogue
The more we know, the less sense the religions give
You didn't talk any more about mosques converted to bars in israel and mosques converted to churches in spain.
For Spain: They were originally Christian... the people that were invaded by the Muslims just reverted it back.
@@prussianhamster so...can native american reverted everything in US into theirs too?
@@prussianhamster does the term reverted it back also meaning the mass genocide of the Granadian and the Moors Muslim ? And also there's a lot of Spanish Muslim being expelled during reconquista, and fyi reconquista is not happened in 1 night, reconquista happened in 800 years long
cilla jendar they do have the right to do it
It has been Mosque from 1453 till the 1920s...Converted to a museum from the 1920s till the 2000s..so stop whining it has been a Mosque for more than 500 years. Do not politicize the situation. They all worshiping the same God as the Christians do. There is an onion layer thick difference between Islam and Christianity. Muslims also accept Mary, Jesus, and all his disciples in Islam. If people worshiping the same God you all do, what is the difference if it is Mosque or Church.
P.S.: It has been built as a Church, so what? I can show you plenty of Mosques in Europe which converted to Churches and nobody is talking about them. Stop whining and research first. Politics and worshiping God are different things. in fact, politics is more devil's side rather than God's.
EARTHQUAKE
There are still many churches in Turkey But how many mosques are there in Europe and other countries? We also know how mosques were transformed into churches in Spain Or how mosques were destroyed in Greece So let's not be two-faced
Garcia zarate .. we have hundreds in South Africa 🇿🇦 that’s because we have freedom of worship & respect the beliefs of others
Irwin Russell same in Turkey! Christians have their own churches too, and the bells ringing but nowhere in Europe can we have our ezhan and they wanna hate on us?
How would the Turks feel if the Christians occupied Turkmenistan and converted their largest mosque into a church??
The church would be empty after 1 month btw, christian is not relevant anymore
Religion belongs in the past, museum it is.
Yes, Museums are un bias.
Hagia Sophia is a church and she should stayed like that all iligal mosque in Europe and Balken should be destroyed...
EUROPE IS SO ATHEIST THAT IT WILL STAY QUIET.
It would be hypocritical to hear any complaints of mosques being taken over for sure.
Go Türkiye🇹🇷
Dont forget Cordoba Mosque converted become Church, we never protest about it
ekichandra , Most of these posts are whining about it, two wrongs don’t make a right
Man the only thing I wish that God or the creator of heaven and earth will left the hagia Sophia in ruins for good so that religions will never ever fight again for good. Someday, you'll see.