Canadian regulations do not yet cover OTC hearing aids. So, many makers put checks into their software, that prevents it from working in Canada. When I tried buying a pair of Sony OTC aids in the US, the Android control app refused to install on my phone, saying that it was a Canada-based phone. Grrrrrr . . .
I tried APP 2’s, first problem, have to recharge every 4-5 hours, they are horrible in crowds or restaurants, I thought my 10+ year old HA’s were bad, these were worse. After using the APP 2’s, I thought newer technology wasn’t ready for prime time compared to my old HA’s, I almost cancelled my Phonak order. My Phonak’s are leaps and bounds above my old ones, and significantly better than APP 2’s. The only person happy with the APP 2’s was my wife, she wears them to listen to music.
I think that's called occlusion. I have that too, from my vented domes. It is much like talking with my fingers in my ears or with earplugs, yet I can hear better. I discussed that with my audiologist, and she explained why these domes were selected by the Phonak fitting app. I'll probably get used to it like I have with my tinnitus, which I only notice when I think about it.
Can't afford $3000-$7000 for hearing aids from an audiologist, bought Apple Pro 2 AirPods, they may not be perfect, but for $250 I am extremely satisfied.
I have the eargo7 and a prescription Signia. Eargo7 works for me. Not very good washing out my tinnitus but it works just fine running exercising and at work. Audiologist even tested it for me and it nearly matches my mild hearing loss. Clearly my prescription is better but I get plenty of quality use with the Eargo7.
I think AirPods Pro 2 are generally very good. I find them excellent in quieter situations. Ambient noise reduction is very nice, but this comes at the expense of also quieting conversation. Like many hearing aids, they struggle in hearing conversation in noisy environments, and with quiet talkers. Will Apple iterate (hardware/software) over the months and years or will they stagnate? Time will tell.
Apple has a lot of work to do if they actually want their Hearing Aid feature to be competitive with some of the top hearing aid brands out there. Even with these new improvements, independent testing barely has them cracking the top 50% in performance. A lot of hype without the performance to back it up. Basically, Apple just being Apple.
the thing with AirPods is that socially its going to look like you're listening to music and you may come off as being rude for not removing them when talking to someone. not everyone is going to know you're using them to hear.
@@earthmoonstars2013 So far that hasn’t happened to me. I suspect that they’re going to become more and more socially acceptable. I remember when the ubiquitous use of cell phones was considered socially unacceptable.
If there is any way you can afford them, just get the best. I'm a month into my third set of hearing aids, the Phonak Audeo I90 Sphere and the Roger On 3. It took some return adjustments but the improvement in hearing in noise blows me away. While the Roger On is optional, I strongly recommend it.
Brick & Mortar, otherwise stay under a price point that won't hurt your retirement plans. Apple Pro2 are great for music, good for noise reduction, ok for deer hunting, but excellent at nothing.
Pity !! Hearing aids companies and retailers are ripping off elderly & the senior citizens of their hard earned savings in the later years of their lives.
I've spoken to 40-50 at this point and have personally setup ~20 individuals with the AirPods Pro 2 with very poor outcomes. How many people have you personally spoken with abou their AirPods Pro 2 hearing aid performance?
Apple AirPods are not supported as Hearing Aids in Canada
Canadian regulations do not yet cover OTC hearing aids. So, many makers put checks into their software, that prevents it from working in Canada. When I tried buying a pair of Sony OTC aids in the US, the Android control app refused to install on my phone, saying that it was a Canada-based phone. Grrrrrr . . .
I tried APP 2’s, first problem, have to recharge every 4-5 hours, they are horrible in crowds or restaurants, I thought my 10+ year old HA’s were bad, these were worse. After using the APP 2’s, I thought newer technology wasn’t ready for prime time compared to my old HA’s, I almost cancelled my Phonak order. My Phonak’s are leaps and bounds above my old ones, and significantly better than APP 2’s. The only person happy with the APP 2’s was my wife, she wears them to listen to music.
Dr Cliff I had molds made for my hearing aids & it caused everything to sound like I was in a tunnel, is that normal?
I think that's called occlusion. I have that too, from my vented domes. It is much like talking with my fingers in my ears or with earplugs, yet I can hear better. I discussed that with my audiologist, and she explained why these domes were selected by the Phonak fitting app. I'll probably get used to it like I have with my tinnitus, which I only notice when I think about it.
Can't afford $3000-$7000 for hearing aids from an audiologist, bought Apple Pro 2 AirPods, they may not be perfect, but for $250 I am extremely satisfied.
I have the eargo7 and a prescription Signia. Eargo7 works for me. Not very good washing out my tinnitus but it works just fine running exercising and at work. Audiologist even tested it for me and it nearly matches my mild hearing loss. Clearly my prescription is better but I get plenty of quality use with the Eargo7.
I think AirPods Pro 2 are generally very good. I find them excellent in quieter situations. Ambient noise reduction is very nice, but this comes at the expense of also quieting conversation. Like many hearing aids, they struggle in hearing conversation in noisy environments, and with quiet talkers. Will Apple iterate (hardware/software) over the months and years or will they stagnate? Time will tell.
Apple has a lot of work to do if they actually want their Hearing Aid feature to be competitive with some of the top hearing aid brands out there. Even with these new improvements, independent testing barely has them cracking the top 50% in performance. A lot of hype without the performance to back it up. Basically, Apple just being Apple.
I hate the way they work as hearing aids. I find it hard to follow a conversation with them. I live them as a streaming device with my audiogram.
the thing with AirPods is that socially its going to look like you're listening to music and you may come off as being rude for not removing them when talking to someone. not everyone is going to know you're using them to hear.
@@earthmoonstars2013 So far that hasn’t happened to me. I suspect that they’re going to become more and more socially acceptable. I remember when the ubiquitous use of cell phones was considered socially unacceptable.
@@earthmoonstars2013 Exactly.
The Air Pod Pro 2 used as a hearing aid are terrible.
What is your opinion of Miracle Ear?
Locked Sivantos devices. No thanks.
@@DrCliffAuDand some of them are locked Starkey devices too
@@demure.SH00T0UT yep
If there is any way you can afford them, just get the best. I'm a month into my third set of hearing aids, the Phonak Audeo I90 Sphere and the Roger On 3. It took some return adjustments but the improvement in hearing in noise blows me away. While the Roger On is optional, I strongly recommend it.
Brick & Mortar, otherwise stay under a price point that won't hurt your retirement plans. Apple Pro2 are great for music, good for noise reduction, ok for deer hunting, but excellent at nothing.
Well said.
@DrCliffAuD just trying to help. There are so many ecommerce sellers that can not support the sale. Damm shame.
Pity !! Hearing aids companies and retailers are ripping off elderly & the senior citizens of their hard earned savings in the later years of their lives.
I guess he hasn’t spoken to anyone that uses the AirPods as hearing aids.
I've spoken to 40-50 at this point and have personally setup ~20 individuals with the AirPods Pro 2 with very poor outcomes. How many people have you personally spoken with abou their AirPods Pro 2 hearing aid performance?
Which hearing aids would you recommend for teams calls in an open office ?
I guess Apple didn’t grease Cliff’s palm enough because he used to love the AirPod pro 2!!!
Good with hearing health, good with seeing the future??
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