2:14 It's absolutely refreshing to hear the level of knowledge Jordan Shallow drops here. When was the last time something mentioned the pelvis when training lats?? Legend.
This is how I first learned these. The previous two videos I watched, thonight, said the exact opposite with the elbows with no hip drop. Thank you for clarifying.
I have watched almost a dozen videos on dumbell lat pullover . This is by far the most informative! TU for explaining in such awesome detail! Especially about shoulders being internally rotated for lat activation and great tip to use swiss bar ! Can’t wait to try my pullovers with swiss bar for better lat activation!!
Also using ribcage expansion (super deep breath on the lowering phase - eccentric phase is super useful as it will help increase the barrel chest development 👌🏾. Great video buddy..
I've been bending my elbows in the negative phase, which really works the triceps in the concentric phase. I will try more straight arms throughout, with the variations for chest/lats you describe.
Up early, watching videos trying to get myself out of bed. I did this elbows in/flared thing and contracted my muscles and I could feel the difference without any weight. Great video!
Very helpful video. I was trying to do dumbell pullovers in the gym for the first time yesterday but was only able to target my lats. This helps me a lot. Thanks!
What a great video on an exercise butchered by so many even the so called experts. I watched a previous video which only mentioned the hip variation when isolating chest or back no mention of the elbow positioning. Thanks Dr Jordan Shallow!
Dcotor Jordan sure knows what he is talking about. My question is, if both pec and lats are internal rotators, then why is it when the GH is in ER, would the lats be better activated?
My lower back was hurt in a work accident that hospitalized me; I work the back and core to strengthen the areas, but this exercise looks like it would aggravate my lower back. Can pullovers be done lengthwise along the bench versus perpendicularly to avoid such stresses?
Yeah they can. He was saying you can lie more table top/horizontally with the floor. Whether you're achieving this by suspending your hips up, or by laying length ways on the bench makes no difference.
Extremely helpful, I always thought of the pullover as just a chest exercise, had no idea about the elbow positioning for the Lats! Gonna start implementing this right away. Great info!
the position of the elbow to activate lats or pecs is the opposite of what he said. for lats u flare elbows out / internally rotate humerus. For pecs keep the elbows in tight/ externally rotate humerus
This video with Scott Herman advises doing the opposite with the elbows - flare out for lats and tuck in for chest: th-cam.com/video/5YStMv6m2g8/w-d-xo.html
What I have done to put more lat focus is use kettlebells. Holding the sides (horns) of a kettlebell seems ideal for the lat activation. I bet these days more people have access to them vs a swiss bar.
I am in total agreement with you. After trying many variations, the kettlebell is by far my favorite. I feel a great stretch in the lats and pecs without any shoulder discomfort. I like doing them on a decline bench or a stability ball for an even deeper stretch.
i find it more rewarding to keep your abs raised level instead of raising them during the exercise. by keeping them raised throughout the exercise you maintain tension on your midsection giving an overall workout, everyone to their own, but i find i get greater alround results .
My left shoulder rotator cuff move off the track and sits back there when ever I’m doing dumbbell pull over. it won’t hurt or dislocated completely but I don’t feel it’s safe to do this exercise. I followed the instruction and I use less weight yet this keep on happening.
for the lats option, he mentions using a swiss bar; could you just hold a dumbbell horizontally vs vertically the way he is to achieve a more neutral positioning? or is it not recommended bc it's less safe to hold a dumbbell that way over your head?
Can I do dumbbell pullover tge same way you showed the barbell pullover, putting your back on the bench instead of what you show on the clip? Thank you for your great videos and podcast!
His legs are tiny! But if they are his genes, the struggle is real... what it really emphasises is how unnatural his upper form is to what his normal body shape probably is. I really believe there will be a popular shift away from this sort of bulk, towards 'lean and defined on basis of body'. Dudes will always want to be larger, but the majority will eventually prefer to be comfortable and health within their frames.
Now I'm confused, renown athletes trainer Jeff Cavaliere suggests exactly the opposite, that is flare your elbows out to focus on the lats and tuck them in to activate more the pecs...which one should I believe? (Cavaliere's clip here th-cam.com/video/EFbifMHOXPc/w-d-xo.html go to 6 minutes and 15 seconds)
What's the best lbs for this excersize, like I just started the gym 4 months ago, and just was wondering how much pounds should be used when doing this exercise. Thx great video.
Wow,great advice about what angles to teach or explain how to different muscles depending on the angles of the elbow....need to remember for my pullovers home workouts
I am completely confused because the next video for this exercise states the total opposite from what you are instructing. you are instructing to keep elbows straight and in for lats, elbows bent and curved for chest. Video Scott Herman BSN is stating elbows straight and in for chest, elbows curved for lats. who knows which form is right for for this exercise for chest and lats?
Sir when i go lower in Pullovers then i had pain in the insertion of side delt in right arm, i mean insertin of lower side which is between bisecps n triceps,, it feel like pain on point. So can u help me in any way by video or some advise.. Btw u are doing nice stuff...
You may have been training with exercises which internally rotate your shoulders which causes damage If you dont externally rotate them check this out m.th-cam.com/video/U1hIHwLsiq8/w-d-xo.html , try incorporating some facepulls after a chest workout
I would have thought Dr. Jordan Shallow would be upset to have his name next to a title that reads, "Target Chest of Lats." The chest of lats is a new body part for me. Couldn't locate it in Netters. 🤣🤣🤣
2:14 It's absolutely refreshing to hear the level of knowledge Jordan Shallow drops here. When was the last time something mentioned the pelvis when training lats?? Legend.
When you watch a great Guru teaching another great, there is only one word and that is AWESOME!
Regards!
This is how I first learned these. The previous two videos I watched, thonight, said the exact opposite with the elbows with no hip drop. Thank you for clarifying.
I have watched almost a dozen videos on dumbell lat pullover . This is by far the most informative! TU for explaining in such awesome detail! Especially about shoulders being internally rotated for lat activation and great tip to use swiss bar ! Can’t wait to try my pullovers with swiss bar for better lat activation!!
Also using ribcage expansion (super deep breath on the lowering phase - eccentric phase is super useful as it will help increase the barrel chest development 👌🏾. Great video buddy..
The explanations and cues are money
I was doing this exercise wrongly for quite a while....Now I know the right way of doing it. Thank you guys for teaching me. I owe you plenty.
Wrong. Not wrongly.
@@Unrealistic-o9c Your comment is wrong! Where is the subject in either of your malformed sentences?
I've been bending my elbows in the negative phase, which really works the triceps in the concentric phase. I will try more straight arms throughout, with the variations for chest/lats you describe.
Thanks fellas I've always wanted to know the correct format for both👍👌
Up early, watching videos trying to get myself out of bed. I did this elbows in/flared thing and contracted my muscles and I could feel the difference without any weight. Great video!
Very helpful video. I was trying to do dumbell pullovers in the gym for the first time yesterday but was only able to target my lats. This helps me a lot. Thanks!
This was great! I really appreciated the mechanics being explained. Thank you both!
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“Pull from the elbows” game changer 👌🙌
What a great video on an exercise butchered by so many even the so called experts. I watched a previous video which only mentioned the hip variation when isolating chest or back no mention of the elbow positioning. Thanks Dr Jordan Shallow!
Most fitness channels would teach the compplete opposite. Elbows tucked in for more chest and elbows flared out more lats. I'm now genuinely confused.
That's a great tip! I'll definitely be applying it for my lats. Thanks guys! 👍🏽
Love every Mind Pump video! This really helped me correct and find the mind-muscle
activation. Thanks!
I love how he explains it so we can understand it too lol awesome vid guys
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Great video guys. Very detailed explanation.
super helpful !!!
Mannn life changing tips God bless you
Mind muscle connection is key
That was very informative and helpful.
that edit @9:20 was pretty smooth
Baie dankie mind pump,I can feel a pump in my workout....
Dcotor Jordan sure knows what he is talking about. My question is, if both pec and lats are internal rotators, then why is it when the GH is in ER, would the lats be better activated?
My lower back was hurt in a work accident that hospitalized me; I work the back and core to strengthen the areas, but this exercise looks like it would aggravate my lower back. Can pullovers be done lengthwise along the bench versus perpendicularly to avoid such stresses?
Yes
Yeah they can. He was saying you can lie more table top/horizontally with the floor. Whether you're achieving this by suspending your hips up, or by laying length ways on the bench makes no difference.
Thank you for this i was so confused . Saw many videos but this one is very useful.
Extremely helpful, I always thought of the pullover as just a chest exercise, had no idea about the elbow positioning for the Lats! Gonna start implementing this right away. Great info!
You guys got it mixed. Its flared elbows with back and close elbows with chest.
That's totally correct!
Cause by watching this video I got confused!!! It's backwards all the explanation. Really misleading
Foreal I was doing the exercise and wondering why I felt my lats more the other way. @@donatascervinas2830
Great explanation - i have always wondered whether it's pecs or lats with this exercise.
It's still hits both bo matter which wYyou perform it ...
the position of the elbow to activate lats or pecs is the opposite of what he said. for lats u flare elbows out / internally rotate humerus. For pecs keep the elbows in tight/ externally rotate humerus
This video with Scott Herman advises doing the opposite with the elbows - flare out for lats and tuck in for chest:
th-cam.com/video/5YStMv6m2g8/w-d-xo.html
Yea idk which is which anymore 😂
What I have done to put more lat focus is use kettlebells. Holding the sides (horns) of a kettlebell seems ideal for the lat activation. I bet these days more people have access to them vs a swiss bar.
I am in total agreement with you. After trying many variations, the kettlebell is by far my favorite. I feel a great stretch in the lats and pecs without any shoulder discomfort. I like doing them on a decline bench or a stability ball for an even deeper stretch.
@@brianlyle7017 Yep, I actually do them decline on my inversion table.
Absolutely fantastic info guys! Thanks for such insight into each exercise and movement variable.
Very informative video. I have pullover coming up in Phase 2 of MAPS Anabolic - will try both techniques each session.
Same here!!! Currently doing my phase I and studying movements for phase II
i find it more rewarding to keep your abs raised level instead of raising them during the exercise. by keeping them raised throughout the exercise you maintain tension on your midsection giving an overall workout, everyone to their own, but i find i get greater alround results .
My left shoulder rotator cuff move off the track and sits back there when ever I’m doing dumbbell pull over. it won’t hurt or dislocated completely but I don’t feel it’s safe to do this exercise. I followed the instruction and I use less weight yet this keep on happening.
What is the correct positioning of the legs and feet? I've used an elevated bridge pos but not seen the feet behind the knees before. Thank you!
for the lats option, he mentions using a swiss bar; could you just hold a dumbbell horizontally vs vertically the way he is to achieve a more neutral positioning? or is it not recommended bc it's less safe to hold a dumbbell that way over your head?
I think he doesn’t do that because he wants some separation between the hands. However you could just use two dumbbells
Is it recommended to always be perpendicular to the bench as opposed to laying flat on it?
i guess u can stretch the pelvis then
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Amazing video, thank you so much!
You're very welcome!
Interesting. Good stuff!!!
Mans has the chest of lats!!!
Thanks guys, great job
What's the difference between doing them off the bench and on the bench
Best video I’ve seen for this. I was going it wrong for chest.
So going by the external / internal rotation guide for lat / chest, on my cable lat prayers it would help to use a swiss bar?
Great! video. So well explained. Jeff CavaLIERe would have taken 90 min to explain this in a two part saga.
Glad you liked it!
Instead of any fancy Swiss bar, why not just use two dumbells for a neutral hand grip?
This was great thank you! Doing it for back
Can I do dumbbell pullover tge same way you showed the barbell pullover, putting your back on the bench instead of what you show on the clip?
Thank you for your great videos and podcast!
These are great pieces of information...amazing
Amazing video
this helps so much didn’t know i had to pinch my elbows
When you have to buy 3xl shorts to hide your straw legs
I didn't even realize this until I read your comment! XD
His legs are tiny! But if they are his genes, the struggle is real... what it really emphasises is how unnatural his upper form is to what his normal body shape probably is. I really believe there will be a popular shift away from this sort of bulk, towards 'lean and defined on basis of body'. Dudes will always want to be larger, but the majority will eventually prefer to be comfortable and health within their frames.
He's def hiding them
Geezuz lmao
He be skippin leg day 💀💀
I Hurd my neck crack badly when doing this , I feel fine tho but is that safe?
Now I'm confused, renown athletes trainer Jeff Cavaliere suggests exactly the opposite, that is flare your elbows out to focus on the lats and tuck them in to activate more the pecs...which one should I believe? (Cavaliere's clip here th-cam.com/video/EFbifMHOXPc/w-d-xo.html go to 6 minutes and 15 seconds)
Thank you for the good instruction!
With the chest being a main mover for the humerus across the body, wouldn't elbows in close engage more pecs?
i really hurt my right shoulder when doing this? idk what i done wrong
That was great, going to try the lat version tomorrow as they are on the menu anyhow!
This is so B.A.. Thank you for sharing this technique.
The guy wearing black shirt speaks perfect English but I can't understand what he is trying to say at all.
Why?!
It’s his growling and vocal fry.
According to the internet, only women and the Kardashian's use vocal fry. lol
文武四夕 yea true, but the guy in the bench also said it, let me let the viewers know what your saying
That guy is wearing Kevin ferderline shorts. Wow the 90s - never forget.
😂😂😂😂
Fantastic instruction on both variations of the pullover!
quality. thanks.
Awesome I needed this coaching 🙌🏻❤️
Can someone tell me why I feel a click in my rear deltoid when I rotate my wrist with my thumb pointing toward my back
What's the best lbs for this excersize, like I just started the gym 4 months ago, and just was wondering how much pounds should be used when doing this exercise. Thx great video.
Canal Caribeño as heavy you can go for 8-12 reps
@@caseyrobinette805 k thx.
I'd start pretty light 10 or 15 pounds seeing as you're newer to the gym.
I experience elbow pain when doing this exercise - any cues that can prevent that?
Excellent help here.
However, how does this exercise affect the rotator cuff?
Bill Ziss i really hurt my right shoulder when doing this? idk what i done wrong
@@sidj3018 same here right shoulder hurt
Finally a perfect explanation
Clutch!! Finally I understand thank you!!
Good stuff guys, well presented explanation .
great video guys
Wow,great advice about what angles to teach or explain how to different muscles depending on the angles of the elbow....need to remember for my pullovers home workouts
Beast!
First
can they both be mixed
I have bad knees is there a diff way to do this.
Tree trunks as arms. Dayum 🔥
I am completely confused because the next video for this exercise states the total opposite from what you are instructing. you are instructing to keep elbows straight and in for lats, elbows bent and curved for chest. Video Scott Herman BSN is stating elbows straight and in for chest, elbows curved for lats. who knows which form is right for for this exercise for chest and lats?
Do both and feel it
I use an EZ-Bar and a close-grip for this. Any comments on how to focus on lats. Same principle. Keep arms tucked in?
if you were the grip it will be easier to keep the elbows in.
I like keeping my elbows bent and not just turned in, because it keeps my triceps from joining in.
How many pounds LBS was that dumbbell that you were Demonstrating
And should I go heavy on this particular exercise
Good video
Glad you enjoyed it!
Watching in 2024 😊 so informative
3:57 even him thought for the lats elbows should be flared. This is confusing comparing to most pullover videos i’ve seen.
Can you do this with a plate too when doing it for lats?
Yes
Sir when i go lower in Pullovers then i had pain in the insertion of side delt in right arm, i mean insertin of lower side which is between bisecps n triceps,, it feel like pain on point. So can u help me in any way by video or some advise.. Btw u are doing nice stuff...
You may have been training with exercises which internally rotate your shoulders which causes damage If you dont externally rotate them check this out m.th-cam.com/video/U1hIHwLsiq8/w-d-xo.html , try incorporating some facepulls after a chest workout
Good explanation.
I would have thought Dr. Jordan Shallow would be upset to have his name next to a title that reads, "Target Chest of Lats." The chest of lats is a new body part for me. Couldn't locate it in Netters. 🤣🤣🤣
It's better on a decline bench, because it puts more of your range of motion against gravity..
Dr. Jordan “Intent” Shallow
How do I train my arm chest?
Amazing! Very informative. Thank you
Bro my right shoulder hurt like never before I can’t do these
When i do this for the lats, my delts get fatigued. That normal?
Excellent Video.
Its Soo confusing. This video says keep elbows in other channel video says keep elbows out for lats
Do both and see what muscle gets sore after each set