Is a Stock VW GTI Fun to Drive?
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- A discussion about a stock 2017 Volkswagen GTI, are they fun to drive stock? I think it is my least favorite of the hatchbacks in stock form.. but modified, different story. What do you think?
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Bruh your gonna make it real big with this method
This channel is going to be massive...
Why? 🤔
I’m 16 and I have a gti and I’ve had so many people in their 50’s come up and tell me about how much fun they had in their gti 10 or 20 years ago
exactly hahaha
Im in high school and have a 2012 I had someone walk up to me like 2 weeks ago
Yo I’m 18 I’m getting my first car soon should I get the VW GTI for my first car
@@Dan330i I really like it but mine is not very reliable so I would look up what a good year is to get
@@willkaufman8208 how bout a 2021 model mk7.5 going to lease
"Dont associate stress with the things that are fun in your life." AMEN.
I've had my 2016 GTI for some time. Bone stock still. I love love love it as it is. I always get an itch for wanting to do some basic mods (rims, summer tires, tune, coilovers), but ultimately I have some financial goals that don't align with dumping more money into it. This is a great video because it highlights the strengths of the car, while admitting that you can get so much more out of it, if you'd like. In my opinion, in stock form, it is a great all around daily driver, with a little spice. Great video!
I’m in the exact same position with my 2015 6MT. Maybe someday, but for now I have other goals, and it’s a blast for now !
"Don't Stress yourself out." Words of wisdom
I can’t believe you addressed the SE and ST and GTI in this video. It’s really helping me with buying decisions
I would say go with the st but gti a close second due to it not being as aggressive stock
Go GTI the mqb platform is the most fun I’ve had modding a car!
Mazdaspeed3 gen 1 is the best for modding in my opinion I own a ST and I prefer my speed over the ST just my opinion
Gti is a better platform I had a st before and I can say they don’t compare
@@Vr30-rd7mn lol I was saying the speed3 is better for modding the ST honestly I dislike it 😂 driving experience and even modding just isn’t it lol
Hey man, nothing to do with the video but your series on building a Focus st is actually the reason why I went out and bought one. I love the car and I am so happy with the choice. Thanks for the amazing content!!!!
Me too man, got mine last weekend. Congrats👍
Yes same here, absolutely awesome car
st gang hell yes
ST gang....strength in numbers...except those from the dyno 😂
I’m so excited for this series
the amount of times i've watched your videos and have learned something new about VW is astonishing. Love the work you've been doing! also always need to hear to not be in such a rush to build my car to catch up to others. So far on my mk7.5 i've gotten new wheels and tires + an air intake: it definitely has made a difference in the way it drives.
as someone that uses their GTI for commuting 95% of the time this car is perfect. Its comfortable, has a great sound system and a easy shifting manual. I know there are more fun cars out there like Veloster N. But those cars look and feel like shit boxes. I can enjoy the GTI more of the time. For majority of the people I would think that the car would be used mostly stuck in traffic also.
This is actually very true. The Veloster N might seem cooler to look at and seem better, but it isn’t. I test drove one recently and it was kinda disappointing idk if it’s because the previous owner was harsh on it or what, but the brakes seemed like the were corroded already and was only at 8k miles. Keep in mind I do live in Alaska as well so perhaps that could be why, but I don’t think a new car should feel like that. It’s also hard to see out of the rear view window.
Met you at Jackson two years ago, keep on grinding you got this!!
GTis are the perfect all around car.
are they reliable?
@@imnotyou4830 yea there pretty reliable I’m getting a golf after buying a used STI I have a m3 2009 trade in for a sti and I’m trading in a evo for a GOLF R but gti’s are amazing cars
@@imnotyou4830 they are very very reliable
@@imnotyou4830 I owned a MK6 GTI no issues in 5 yrs. Currently have a MK7.5 and see no issues. They are good cars. Just need to keep up on maintenance. Maintenance is key to reliability 😎
You explained it in the best possible way, thanks for generalizing that thought that all owners of a gti feel 🚘
I was on the fence about tuning my Mk7. I’ve watched several of your videos, but this one video convinced me to get a tune. I’ll be getting an APR stage 1 & DSG tune as soon as I can be worked in
my best friend of 30 odd years has one. it running 300+ and scares the shit out of me.
yet, perfect for arriving to a business meeting about boring shit with people in suits.
I've had Hondas, c5 vette, fbodys and my 18 GTI is a blast stock. Just needs a tune for some more straight line power
Highly recommend: Unitronic stage-1+. Be careful with the clutch if a manual. Enjoy man...such a great ride!🚘
I had a C5 Corvette too. Thing was a screamer until I got tired of it in 5 years.
Yo! I been unitronic stage1+ for a bit now. I highly recommend doing yourself the favor now. Just do it, get yourself a downpipe, Fmic, ( what ever other supporting mods you want) and go stage 2. Stage 2 is what you’re lookin for. Trust me. Much love to everybody, drive fast but be be cautious!
MK7.5 6mt owner here, also had a MK5 6mt. I agree with most of your thoughts, but if you drove a 6MT I think you would be more positive about the performance. Yes, this is no super hatch, yes, it is underpowered, is it fun? Hell yeah man! Do I have to row the gears more to stay in the power band on back roads? Of course I do, but that is what makes this car fun. Can I get a Stage 1 tune? yeah, will I no. The car is fine the way it is for me with the exception of the exhaust note, and that will be changing with a AWE track back. All in all a GTI is a culture, a car for enthusiasts who want performance yet want practicality. I am 50 and I do agree with how this car transcends generations based on my experience of meeting younger and older then me folks who have one or have had one and we just talk. about the cars.
Saying that these cars are underpowered is wild.
Dope video. First time GTI owner. 2020 MK 7.5 GTI SE, unitronic stage 1+, Firehawk Indy sticky summer tires and hitting up dragons tail in NC for fathers day. I'm hooked and enjoying the VW GTI Community. Keep up the great work and you have a new subscriber!
loved today's video very informative. Love how almost anybody can get into the car community.
Coming from a focus se to a gti the gti feels amazing when you throw it in sport mode and in drive its decent at saving gas
This man is dropping straight bangers
Very wise advice! Take your time. I have a golf R and I slowly bought items to go stage 2... worth it! The MQB platform it’s so fun tuned!
excited to see what you do to the GTI!
friend just picked one up cant wait to see this build
I’m getting my GTI on the weekend and it’s already booked in for stage 1 and an induction kit
I’ve never been so excited for a series before. I’m a Mk7 GTI owner and if I was hoping you’d pick one up! The 6MT is super fun stock and that’s likely how I’ll keep it. I think when I get all my “ducks in a row” I’ll get a mk7-7.5 Golf R with a DSG and mod it. Great advice and a great video! Can’t wait to see this channel go through the moon.
Would love an R but.. that's some mad cash. I went for the long term project. 2019 Golf Sportwagen 4motion. Drop the parts in ( IS38 is a direct bolt in) get the tuning, and you have a sleeper edition of the R for a lot less money. Plus much less attention from the police as long as you are not acting a fool.
@@lnrbry yeah. It’ll be a few years out for me. Hoping to see some depreciation with the Mk8 R coming out. It should be a real upgrade with the rear diff IMO
I have a 2020 GTI and perfectly happy with it all stock, but I’m much older and did all the tuning stuff with my Si 20 something years ago 🙂
The excitement about the car is the potential. It has the potential to make a lot of power with only a couple stuff. It has the potential to look and feel good. With high power and a good tune, tires, and an LSD it will perform well. Also, it offers a lot for the money you pay.
Vdubs as a brand are like Jeeps. They have their following. You either like them or you don't. You "Get" them or you don't. Owners of these cars will understand what I'm saying😎
Nice video. I to went from an STI to a golf. I won't lie I miss my Sti and it was everything I expected. But having I had and Evo, two different mustangs, a Fiesta St, and the Sti. And honestly this my golf I feel is the most complete daily driver car. And there's a huge amount potential. Great videos keep posting.
Wanted one a wile ago and was tempted to get something else but now you got one and are gonna walk through the process definitely getting one lmao
This is the perfect series at the perfect time. When you made the 350z series I was 16 working at Wendy’s trying to buy a 350z now I own a Miata as something cheaper but still fun now I’m upgrading to a gti and actually in the position to do so and your making a series about it crazy to think about
Love to hear this! I appreciate you being here
I used to have a 2008 GTI, then I moved too a 2017 GTI honestly been décision I’ve ever made the 2017 was a dsg and it felt as if I was driving something way better it could drive super smooth in traffic and when you would want to hit it would throw you in your seat a little bit now I have a Subaru STI but I do love the Subaru in traffic or driving Around town it’s very jerky can’t drive slow and you won’t be able to drive smooth at all, I’m considering going back to a GTI that’s how much I love them !
I just got my recent 2017 Volkswagen GTI its my first car and boy I love it
I’m 65 with a ‘21 GTI S; have owned just about very fast car from ‘72 to current. For calibration sake one of my motorcycles is a Kawasaki ZX14, I raced cars and motorcycles (street and motocross) successfully. I agree, for the most part, with your GTI overview. However the GTI is a momentum car, not a dragster; having said that it actually quarters with the same ET and a bit higher terminal speed than my ‘70.5 Z28 LT-1 Camaro with an M22 rock crusher 4 Speed. Go figure... I can’t possibly know your driving capabilities nor you mine, but, I assure you were I to take you, or most any enthusiast for and all out run, street or track, the last thing most would say post ride (especially on the street) is “that car needs more power”. Perhaps they’d complain of the plaid seat material ingested by their sphincter, a well driven GTI can do that. Depending on how you use it it might not have as much power as you want (who would argue that, I’ve modified my ZX14 for more power), but far more than needed for sane street work for the vast majority of owners. Want and need are two completely different things of course. The GTI only needs light wheels, sticky performance tires, and maybe better brake pads (~2.7K) to induce said pucker factor. So the GTI is a truly balanced street performance car design for those who understand the goodness baked in over a many years of continuous, well researched, refinement; there is a bit of 911 in its genes. I’d suggest for those who measure a cars worth by pull victories buy any of the wonderful super charged muscle cars, leaving the GTI’s to those desiring a complete, and balanced, highly capable all around enjoyable package. A bit of a MVP. Thanks for sharing an entertaining video and continued success with your channel. Subscribed. Ciao.
Fantastic video! I'm a 47 year old guy with his 7th GTI, a 2015. I'm just in the starting process of modifying the car and have booked in my Unitronic tune next week! The Mk7 has been my favourite GTI so far, and I think I'll keep this one permanently.
As someone with a lot of experience with the Gti, is there any reasons for me to be worried about reliability on a low mileage or even new?
@@atypical_blk_guy I wouldn't say there's any reason to be worried - I've been happy with my Mk7 that's just passed 100k. Just keep up on maintenance, and the car should treat you well. I haven't blown an engine on a Golf in close to 30 years :)
I had a MK5 but she needed so much work so i traded it in. The 7.5 i got feels caged even in sport mode and sport dsg mode. Can't wait to get some mods into it.
Just picked up a 2021 a couple weeks ago. Just subbed for some upgrade tips👀 love my stock GTI coming from a MK6 TDI hatch. Traded massive torque for a more sporty feel and better upgrade abilities.
Do you have any issues with warranties with your upgrades?
Sweet vid. I just got a gti a couple of months ago and it drives so comfortably. I’m looking at getting a 2021 911 soon but I’m not selling the gti. Gti for the win.
I think this guy is the only car guy I don’t get sick of this guy is chill asf
Very well spoken. Nice video man
You’re making me fall in love w the mk7
Ah man just wait it gets so much more tempting here soon😫
@@CameronAlford oh man I’m so ready for this
Love my FoST (ST3) but the reason I bought it was because GTI's in my area were abought $4k more expensive. No doubt a great first sports car if it's in your budget
Bro u r right about age demographics...I'm 65 and own a '17 that's got a Unitronic stage-1+ tune and a DKM stage 2 clutch. It is f*in quick and has astonishing top end pull - 130+... I have a blast EVERY TIME I plunk my ass on the plaid. Good vid. Keep'er between the lines.
My gti still stock and dsg and im loving it..im planning ecu flush apr stage im sure is gonna be more fun..👍👍
I had an 09 Gti manual and it just had an apr stage 1 tune. It was so fun honestly more enjoyable to drive than my new mustang GT
Trade the mustang for the gti if that's the case 🤷🏽♂️
@@interceptingfist5682 eh I’m gonna get a new one for a daily but I’m gonna be boosting the GT soon. I just said that because they’re really underrated fun cars but rn I just want something fast if you know what I mean
I drive a 2011 gti only has an intake and exhaust (i bought it with them already on) the car drives like an absolute dream.
Its had a focus se with the dual clutch, thing drove so oddly. Now i have an st and the difference is absolutely insane.
worst dual clutch transmission ever made
I’m enjoying myfirst car ( 2.5l golf stock ) and I am really curious about gti they are pretty cool and I think lots of people want them cause they had fun with a basic cheap golf and they want to see the better version of it
I have an SE and I honestly couldn’t love it anymore. It does have its flaws tho. Not as fast as I’d like stock but if you’re looking for speed a stock GTI isn’t what you should be looking for. The DSG is lovely but mines a little “off” at times. The pros outweigh the cons for me. Great interior and great tuneability. Sport mode is literally where it’s at.
I got mine a month ago , has intake, turbo inlet and TCR axle back, most likely getting a DP next month and tune or jb4. Probably going jb4 to try and save the warranty lol I only have 2500 miles on the thing
And he keeps it real no stupid intros and pointless talking gets straight to the point
To your knowledge Cameron is there anything you can do to focus SE. It's treating me well so far I've had it for a year and a 1/2. I know your audiences more favourable to Turbo charge but what about naturally aspirated engines. And what I've seen on mountains website as they have stuff you could buy for a duratec HE but it's not much but I want to know from you what you think whether you do a comment or separate video. Thank you for your time buddy
Would you say that this is better to drive stock than a focus st?
I've had my '15 GTI since it was new. Threw in a is38 turbo, UM tuned/tcu, dp, ic, intake, etc. Car pulls like a freight train now.
You must have never had a quick car
I think I disagree. At least in part. I love my gti. I don't have the dsg though. I do think the car is fun stock though. Now I do agree that you expect more, because of ask the hype and the history. But the GTI history is that it's a great riding and driving hot hatch. Comfortable, smooth, easy to drive car for everyday. But then also plenty capable and quick ENOUGH, when you're ready to play.
they still make the focus models but only in Britain sadly , the designer took his ownership of the hatchback model back
Is there a specific year model you would recommend owning? looking for a somewhat reliability fun car to purchase.
If you can afford 2017+ you’ll kinda get the best of everything! Apple car play and all the goodies
GTI is great but try the difference and tune a *Golf R* man, *AWD*
They can do a lot, seen some crazy high whp drag R builds too! I have an MK7 I daily now and only have had it for a short time and already tuned and modded it to 400 buffhorses it’s nutty and I’m not even done yet hahaa
Where is a better handling ? Gti or Mazdaspeed 3 ?
I’ve had my gti since last august sadly she’s still stock but I still have my fun in it
Loser
@@gustavopaulette3496 lol whatever you say Gustavo
@@allan8524 😂😂😂 I feel u bro I spent all my money on my mk7 gti 6 speed and just have a rev9 catback but still fun
@@allan8524 solowerks s1 and tune + downpipe next
if you are a 19 year old and want a sick car with lots of room fore even more fun i highly recommend i recently got a 2007 gti 2 door the amount of fun i have had is unreal dont under estimate this cars size and cant wait to mod it.
Which would you pick; a 2020 STi or a GTI? I am between the two and a camaro SS. At least the GTI gets pretty dang good MPG and they are quicker than an STI. Really it takes a lot of mods on an STI to keep up with a GTI with lesser mods. Plus the EJs from everything I am reading seems to be very unreliable. I would love an STI but I hate reading the posts every day on FB that someone blew up their STI. Granted the one I am looking at has the stock powertrain warranty left for 4 years and 35,000 more miles, but it would greatly suck if it blew and I was down for a while. I do have an F150 and Jeep wrangler, but that is back at home and not here with me at graduate school (well I can't have two vehicles at one time). I take very good care of my cars but I do drive them pretty hard at times.
APR is the move
Getting my stage 1 soon
@@wesgreen2812 I’ve drove my friends GTI it was Stage 2 and my god bro it just made me wanting to buy a GTI and just made the car 10x more fun
Im getting a 2010 Volkswagen gti, and just wondering what should I do for a tune first? Nothing too much, as I am on a lower budget.
a easy and quick way to make some more power without touching anything is the ecu tune. u can get a easy 20hp from a stage 1 without doing any other nodding or damaging the engine at all
My guy has owned almost all the hot hatches
I thought this video would Have over 500k views ????? Only 20k Man U will blow up good vidro
4:57 is bang on
A tune Is all the car needs, even just a small one. It really shows what it was meant to do. Test drove my bud's my mk6 gti cobb tuned and it was an absolute menace. Fun as fuck to drive and felt more connected to the car. You could say that about any car but I think with the GTI a tune feels like it's needed if you're trying to find what you're looking for in a GTI
Facts facts facts listen to this man. I had a all black limited WRX not the sti 🤮🤮🤮 stocked. Horrible experience real talk You must modified the doors off that car minds was a stick shift never again 💯☮️
I am in high school and have the same car but the performance pack and would totally agree it’s boring af stock. then when I went apr stage 2 and the car got 10x better the stock
Calling me out on that Affirm rant man 😅😅😅
Please stay until the end, he’s speaking FACTS!
What’s the price for a tune I got a mk7 tsi 2015 se????
Yo question. So I’ve been seeing a lot of ur stuff. Watching ur mods and everything. I’m getting a golf s. Can I do pretty much all these mods on that as well?
Also. With the unitronic stage 1 tuning that u did. There’s not one just for the golf s. But for the engine of the mk 7 which is the same for the s I guess
the 1st time you drive a GTI...should be with a Manual...just saying...my 1st manual was a Mazda protege5 and when I 1st drove a gti I was impressed...i don't really get the whole love for dsg unless u get the dsg tune to match..then its a blast
Three pedals till I die 🤘
Have you done the dsg tune ? It's a night and day difference
In Italy, you remap the dsg map
Dsg tune? How different is it?
My stock MK6 GTI is plenty fast for me! Straight line speed doesn't matter to me. It's carving up a twisty mountain road that I enjoy! Drive mode should be called "bog" mode. I drive in manual mode most the time because I like the engine to rev up when I'm getting up to speed and once I'm just cruising along I put it in high gear to let it get max MPG.
I had a older guy in a Kia Stinger stop and ask me about my acid green sti calipers 🤣
I used to work at a Kia dealer. Stinger customers always complained about the smallest stuff and half of it can never be duplicated.
Now after owning my MS3 for 5 years, the GTI being comfy and more restrained IS the hype. I'm certain if I would've bought one over my MS3, I probably wouldn't be looking to replace it like I am my MS3! Moving into a different stage of my life, I really wish I had something that wasn't unbearable for my passengers, and that wasn't as visually... loud? Happy? I still don't know how to describe the MS3 haha.
I had a 08 MS3 - with only an intake and 128K on the odometer, it felt faster than my 16 Golf R right after I bought it in late 2015. Fortunately I was able to rectify that with an APR Stage 1 two weeks after taking delivery of my Golf R. That was an instant cure for my buyer's remorse. Now with an APR Stage 2, the car is now the fastest car I have ever owned or driven.
Just skip stage 1 and go stage 2
I went jb4 then stage 2 6 months later
So much faster got the pops and bangs also from Integrated engineering with a dsg tune
I live in Seattle, GTI is great for city drive, curb parking isn’t much of a problem with the hatch either. My car is stock so I don’t dare drive it like I stole it cuz I might get gapped by any late 2020 model sedans Lmao.
Has the CEL come on yet?
I really like your videos, I started watching you with the focus ST cause I own a fiesta ST, I’m hoping one day you can get the chance to work on a fiesta, it will surprise you, and they’re cheap to buy used, I’ve seen some go for 10k-12k hope you see this comment and keep up the good work ! Cant wait to see your old subie build finished !
My vw rabbit is stock and that thing is hella fun to drive
Is this a mk7 or mk7.5
Will the podcast reach podcast apps like Pocket Cast?
Cam you the GOAT
I wanted a gti but with my new family and baby, finances and everything… i got a Tiguan. 2013 for $6k in good condition, base model fwd auto.
I did stage 2 and it’s faster than my friends stage 1 mk 6 gti in straight line 😂 with car seat in back for 1/2 the price
Bro you drove right past my house in this vid
only mods you really need is a stage 2 and a Downpipe. Prolly an intercooler too if you really wanted. These cars max out at 350hp for the stock turbo. No point in spending a ton of money on an exhaust, intake, etc... all these manufacturers want now a days is money so of course they are gonna try to sell you mods that you don’t even need.
im looking between a c6 vette and a 2015 gti, and im struggling in a decision because i need a daily but i want something fast
If you need a daily I'd definitely recommend a GTI. Much easier on your wallet (gas and insurance is probably cheaper) and it's got plenty of space. A Corvette would make a great weekend car though
@@AqwAndRandomstuff thank you man im really torn between the 2
a c6 is a much better sports car but not a good daily. If you live in places that get snow don't even think about it
im thinking of getting a mk7 GTI or mk7 golf r
If ur gonna tune u gotta think do I wanna do dig races or roll races. For dig races pick golf r. Roll races = gti. They have the same engine but the golf r had beefed up internals and a bigger turbo.
Affirm the devils magic, Afterpay is worse, I caught myself paying 700 bucks every two weeks for like a year & a half straight.. Payed my CTR off and didn’t enjoy the fact not having a car payment because I was spending 1400 a month on parts payments, as soon as I payed it off boom my dumb self started another order. Thank god that’s over
Would you say the gti or the 350z was faster stock?
a 350z would be faster stock
@@joelbuck5033 yeah i own a 350 but never driven a gti
I really want a starter car but in Alaska there’s not much. Lots of WRX
Subie gang
Used Golf R for AWD. That will be fun, but I don't know if there are Golf R's for sale there lol
@@Dcc357 Nah gotta ship one from lower 48
stock is fun, but tuning mine changed the beast.
I think we need that 16/17 minute video upgrade on the gti
At the end :)
In comparison to my last car, a 2018 Mazda 3 hatch, yes it's fun. Lol
Great