Decino hunting for secrets : analysis of the map, looking at suspicious areas, running around the level to check on everything Me hunting for secrets : constantly hug wall, use/open key spam, listen to doomguys "UM UM UM UM UM UM UM"
Ha! I cheat and use the IDDT+Noclip cheats to find the secrets. I do try to find the stuff legitimately, but once I give up I try to find out how do you get a secret the right way after "illegally finding the secret.
"If it's just imps, I don't mind." "...That's a lot of imps." "WHOA, that's a lot of imps!" "You can stop spawning in now!" That gradual change of reaction. Probably my fave part of the video, haha.
For future reference, if a button lets you switch it off and on and off and on over and over again like that mystery button, it's a one time use button. There's buttons like that in Doom 2
Good job figuring out the secrets! During testing we did full 100% runs of every map (including 100% items) on every skill in PrBoom+ and GZDoom to make sure it was achieveable - this map confused the hell out of me every time I played it, and it was still a puzzle to figure out some of the secrets even when looking in the map editor :P
@@decino Thanks! That switch being repeatable was a mistake on my end, and usually the kind of thing I never do, so I have no idea how it slipped through. Glad you enjoyed it, regardless
About that switch you were asking. It just rises a bridge to the yellow key area. You can see it lowered at 26:50 and elevated at 26:58. Now. Why can you activate it many times? Idk, maybe it was an overlook. Great series decino.
@@RomanOrekhov Add the intro and trim out me booting up and exiting the game. While it's rendering I usually watch the video in case the recording messed up.
@@decino As far as I'm aware, if the switch was doing something after the first time, you couldn't flip it on and off as fast as you were. Repeatable switches only let you re-flip them once the action has completed, which in practically all cases will be at least some delay.
i was loving and hating watching you continue pressing that switch hated i couldnt just tell you that it raised a bridge that wouldnt help you with a secret :p
I love the glitching monitors in these maps. Mappers who take the time to do custom techbase textures that look really good (glowing circuit traces, glitching monitors, interactive pieces) really make me happy. Heck you could almost emulate Quake II - and look better than it in a few places - with this megawad's techbase textures.
You will love Putrifier (www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/m-o/ma_put) and Dimension of the Boomed (www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/92574-dimension-of-the-boomed/), a couple of Quake 2 and Quake 1 themed maps, respectively.
Wow indeed! One of the things I loved about the original Doom were the aural clues. You'd hear something in the distance opening and closing and then you'd try to figure out where it was. Beautifully designed map with very well-hidden secrets. Kudos to decino for finding them all. Playing blind is a whole different ballgame, a nasty surprise around every corner. Hell for the player but a real blast for the viewer!
I was afraid you were gonna be upset about how long the video was going to be because of those secrets but I'm glad that you had fun because I'm not very good at secret hunting in these old school shooters and it was interesting to see you go through the whole process. It was nice
Just watched this after some of the valiant maps. You have leveled up since this, Decino! You prob knew that but we can see it too. All that sunlust paid off
Super - really good job - this map so complex, but you finally find all secrets! I really started worried when you become low on health in that damaging floor areas, and that's was funny, that last shotgunner ates a bfg blast - looks like he pay for all of this.
I know this situation so well. Running around for ages just to recognise then a missed switch that was so cIearly there and I passed it a thousand times before. Thanks decino for playing this beautiful map.👍👊🤘❤
You know, with the way the bases look and all, it kind of reminds me of how it looks in Doom 64; only not as dark. I also love the flickering monitors. It reminds me a bit of Doom 3.
I don't know much about DOOM CHEATS but I do know there is a "God Mode" in there somehow. There's also Berserk and Semi-Invisible and Invulnerable. Can't say that I certainly KNOW any more...... But @ 2:32 the clever Mr decino has invented "headless chicken" mode! GENIUS! 👌 Hilarious! 🤣 Well done, Sir. 👍
It's fun trying to figure out the secrets along with you, and you definitely had a better eye for it than me, because you noticed the hidden switches before me, haha.
Yay, those blind runs are really fun to watch, it's much more entertaining to see You surprised and forced to instant action. Secrets in this lvl was really hard to find. I just couldn't get one with reverse tp, since i'm not used to getting in from different sides. That was nice catch. On 21:22 You can actually run there (took me few tries tho), but sadly there is nothing hidden here. I get fixated on that area like You on that button. :p Nice run, i really like that. :)
The secret hunting was indeed fun, which is one of the reasons I hope you'll do Arcane Dimensions one day. Those maps are absolutely riddled with secrets and they're all very clever and fun.
All the comments were valuable insights to me. Well I did say I was new to gaming somewhere in your videos. Oh, and Hi, mate. I love your videos they rock.
Hahaha i was going crazy trying to get to the supercharge too. Finally realized you need to hit another switch first before getting access somehow. Nice job!
The heaven episode is impressive, for sure. I'm actually looking forward to seeing decino take on episode 5 a bit more, though; it's a real quality episode, and there's just something about good old Heck levels that I really enjoy.
i played this map first time today - really complex structure. Interesting to see you do it blind, and hunt for the secrets that i missed.. :P But i've gotta enable my Automap to show more detail for modern secret hunting. Brilliantly done! Congrats.
I would guess I'm in the minority but I don't like the blind runs as much. I enjoy being shown the games as though I'm with a knowledgeable guide, this is more like "go exploring with me". It isn't bad but I don't like it as much. Maybe it'd be neat to see both or have separate playlists/channels for the two approaches.
That mystery switch raises the brown bridge nearby, that connects to the area with the yellow key. Don't know why it's a repeating switch, though. Also, there seems to be no way to reach the alcove with the rocket boxes near the exit. Or is there?
The Mancubus hallway being followed up by TWO, count em, TWO Archviles was absolutely cruel and unusual. Especially with how those pillars are designed. I actually think I found that Supercharge Secret and Arena by complete accident or I thought it was part of the normal level progression
To think it wasn't the Icon of Sin or the Spider Mastermind, not the Cyberdemon the Arch-viles or even the Barons of Hell that were the true Devil in Doom, it was that one Mega Sphere the whole time.
I need to adopt your mindset for hunting secrets. Idk why, but I SUCK at finding secrets in classic Doom. In Doom 2016 I think I missed 3 secrets in the entire campaign, yet I still miss half the secrets in Doom II after playing it for over 20 years smh...
So I wonder if you do extermination day + brtual doom v21 ?? (edit) Back again after 1 year I never believe you was joking about that .. i thought you're planning what you gonna play on this channel for a long time but here we are Congratulations on the 100k
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Decino hunting for secrets : analysis of the map, looking at suspicious areas, running around the level to check on everything
Me hunting for secrets : constantly hug wall, use/open key spam, listen to doomguys "UM UM UM UM UM UM UM"
"Nah, screw that. Doom Builder, come here, sweety"
You and I have the same strategy.
That's how you had to do it in the Wolf3D days. Luckily, by Blake Stone, they figured out how to reward you for your hour of wall hugging.
Ha! I cheat and use the IDDT+Noclip cheats to find the secrets. I do try to find the stuff legitimately, but once I give up I try to find out how do you get a secret the right way after "illegally finding the secret.
Wallhump til ya find all the secrets!
"If it's just imps, I don't mind."
"...That's a lot of imps."
"WHOA, that's a lot of imps!"
"You can stop spawning in now!"
That gradual change of reaction. Probably my fave part of the video, haha.
This is technically a let's play.
Decino: Just this once.
For future reference, if a button lets you switch it off and on and off and on over and over again like that mystery button, it's a one time use button. There's buttons like that in Doom 2
Good to know, thanks.
whats the point of using this kind of buttons?
@@kernelbug2294 it could be used to reopen something that has a trigger to close behind you
Good job figuring out the secrets! During testing we did full 100% runs of every map (including 100% items) on every skill in PrBoom+ and GZDoom to make sure it was achieveable - this map confused the hell out of me every time I played it, and it was still a puzzle to figure out some of the secrets even when looking in the map editor :P
I have never found the button after the tech pillar and archvile jumped this secret lol. One of the puzzliest maps Ive seen
17:43 Caco wallhumping, trying to help decino find all the secrets
Awwwww
I haven't watched the video yet, but playing this blind? You absolute madman. I apologise in advance if things are too confusing for you lol
Other than that repeatable switch it was pretty logical. Great map!
@@decino Thanks! That switch being repeatable was a mistake on my end, and usually the kind of thing I never do, so I have no idea how it slipped through. Glad you enjoyed it, regardless
About that switch you were asking. It just rises a bridge to the yellow key area.
You can see it lowered at 26:50 and elevated at 26:58.
Now. Why can you activate it many times? Idk, maybe it was an overlook.
Great series decino.
Yeah, I figured it out while editing the video. It was driving me nuts!
@@decino what kind of edits did you perform on this video? I thought it was a no-edit VOD.
@@RomanOrekhov Add the intro and trim out me booting up and exiting the game. While it's rendering I usually watch the video in case the recording messed up.
@@decino As far as I'm aware, if the switch was doing something after the first time, you couldn't flip it on and off as fast as you were. Repeatable switches only let you re-flip them once the action has completed, which in practically all cases will be at least some delay.
i was loving and hating watching you continue pressing that switch hated i couldnt just tell you that it raised a bridge that wouldnt help you with a secret :p
Decino & the mystery of the 8 secrets.
I love the glitching monitors in these maps. Mappers who take the time to do custom techbase textures that look really good (glowing circuit traces, glitching monitors, interactive pieces) really make me happy. Heck you could almost emulate Quake II - and look better than it in a few places - with this megawad's techbase textures.
You will love Putrifier (www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/m-o/ma_put) and Dimension of the Boomed (www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/92574-dimension-of-the-boomed/), a couple of Quake 2 and Quake 1 themed maps, respectively.
@@wallyhackenslacker Oh yeah, I saw Icarus' review of that one a while back. Simply gorgeous.
Wow indeed! One of the things I loved about the original Doom were the aural clues. You'd hear something in the distance opening and closing and then you'd try to figure out where it was. Beautifully designed map with very well-hidden secrets. Kudos to decino for finding them all. Playing blind is a whole different ballgame, a nasty surprise around every corner. Hell for the player but a real blast for the viewer!
Nice run! That hunt for secrets really spices it, even more with final full BFG shot for a single shotgunner as topping.
"Map 19.. not sure if that ones gonna be fun"
Buckle up bois.... its time...
I want to see decino's face when, after he's made his practise run, he remembers he needs to record a video for it.
It did happen in the past that I beat a tough level and forgot to hit the record button. More than once.
Ahh, Map 19: Dehydration. AKA "Sewer Level: Eternal Torment"
@@vvcq S.E.W.E.R
Its impossible to make an FPS game without this famous word
@@decino hopefully you hit record during Nirvana... err wait...
The more I watch decino's videos, the more I realize he's the Bob Ross of Doom gameplay videos.
Love these blind playthroughs, reminds me of my own type of DooM playstyle. Confused and lost AF :P
The first two minutes of the run are basically what it feels to play Fallout 76 right now.
Also, [3:30]: decino.wad has stopped working
I was afraid you were gonna be upset about how long the video was going to be because of those secrets but I'm glad that you had fun because I'm not very good at secret hunting in these old school shooters and it was interesting to see you go through the whole process. It was nice
10:10 this part alone explains why blind runs are so fun to watch
Why does Decino run like a headless chicken? He's hunting secrets.
1:15 "Can I get out of here?"
I guess no, you can't.
Blind runs are so much fun. Please do more. (and I wasn't expecting all secrets, thought you would just exit with half)
Just watched this after some of the valiant maps. You have leveled up since this, Decino! You prob knew that but we can see it too. All that sunlust paid off
*GASP* "SWITCH!... This better be a secret!" XD
That last minute of the map was intense!
Decino 2019: “Switches are good”
That's funny, because switches are betraying him now in Valiant xD
Just started watching this series this week. The quality of this mega wad is unlike anything I've seen, glad to be able to play it. Thank you, decino!
Loving these blind runs. The horror in your voice as you struggle to figure out what to do makes it very entertaining.
Super - really good job - this map so complex, but you finally find all secrets! I really started worried when you become low on health in that damaging floor areas, and that's was funny, that last shotgunner ates a bfg blast - looks like he pay for all of this.
I know this situation so well. Running around for ages just to recognise then a missed switch that was so cIearly there and I passed it a thousand times before. Thanks decino for playing this beautiful map.👍👊🤘❤
Decino Presents: _The Joy Of Tearing_
Blind runs are super comfy. Stream of consciousness into Decino's brain.
You know, with the way the bases look and all, it kind of reminds me of how it looks in Doom 64; only not as dark. I also love the flickering monitors. It reminds me a bit of Doom 3.
I don't know much about DOOM CHEATS but I do know there is a "God Mode" in there somehow.
There's also Berserk and Semi-Invisible and Invulnerable. Can't say that I certainly KNOW any more......
But @ 2:32 the clever Mr decino has invented "headless chicken" mode! GENIUS! 👌 Hilarious! 🤣 Well done, Sir. 👍
It's fun trying to figure out the secrets along with you, and you definitely had a better eye for it than me, because you noticed the hidden switches before me, haha.
Shotgun guy: I’m finally free!! Now I can go and visit my zombi family!!!
Decino wielding a BFG: “K, one more kill, and thats... YOU”
Yay, those blind runs are really fun to watch, it's much more entertaining to see You surprised and forced to instant action. Secrets in this lvl was really hard to find. I just couldn't get one with reverse tp, since i'm not used to getting in from different sides. That was nice catch. On 21:22 You can actually run there (took me few tries tho), but sadly there is nothing hidden here. I get fixated on that area like You on that button. :p Nice run, i really like that. :)
Secret hunting rocks. I saw the hidden switch for the last secret a few minutes before you saw it which was maddening!! Keep doing videos like this.
MAP18 : Where is the super shotgun?
Those secrets were tricky! But so satisfying to see you find them. Can't wait to see you play map 19.
The secret hunting was indeed fun, which is one of the reasons I hope you'll do Arcane Dimensions one day. Those maps are absolutely riddled with secrets and they're all very clever and fun.
aww, your enthusiasm at the end was really quite touching. thanks for sharing that with us. :)
Great video! I am playing through this at the moment as well trying to stay ahead of you, but it's hard without prior secret and layout knowledge!
All the comments were valuable insights to me. Well I did say I was new to gaming somewhere in your videos. Oh, and Hi, mate. I love your videos they rock.
Blind runs are the best! super satisfying ending too. great vid as always
That's such a trolling level, I love it! The secret placing is both odd enough and good enough. And really rewarding.
Love this map. Very tight design. Great lighting. Appropriate amount of frustration awesome.
That was fantastic viewing! Your blind runs are far better to watch than the practised levels :)
Great video. I think I felt the same way you did after hitting that sneaky hidden switch for that final area with the nightmare demons.
Cyber Baron: Exists
Decino & Me: Oh these are the real bad news bears!
Hahaha i was going crazy trying to get to the supercharge too. Finally realized you need to hit another switch first before getting access somehow. Nice job!
Not sure but I think that button brought up the beige/brown bridge across to where the cyberboy was.
Blind runs + heart monitor would be pretty interesting to see. Could even incorporate it with dynamic doom guy faces as you approach 200 bpm :P
Just got done beating the last level of Eviternity 5 minutes ago. Boy, that one's a real doozy.
UV-Maxed it in one try with no saves, of course. Not.
yeah, can't wait for decino's take on final, "heaven" episode.
The heaven episode is impressive, for sure. I'm actually looking forward to seeing decino take on episode 5 a bit more, though; it's a real quality episode, and there's just something about good old Heck levels that I really enjoy.
i played this map first time today - really complex structure. Interesting to see you do it blind, and hunt for the secrets that i missed.. :P But i've gotta enable my Automap to show more detail for modern secret hunting. Brilliantly done! Congrats.
I would guess I'm in the minority but I don't like the blind runs as much. I enjoy being shown the games as though I'm with a knowledgeable guide, this is more like "go exploring with me". It isn't bad but I don't like it as much. Maybe it'd be neat to see both or have separate playlists/channels for the two approaches.
I swear those Nightmare Demons were laughing at you while you were looking for a way into that final area. So nice to see them BFG'd.
This was amazing. Great stuff. Keep it coming. Many laughs!!!
That mystery switch raises the brown bridge nearby, that connects to the area with the yellow key. Don't know why it's a repeating switch, though.
Also, there seems to be no way to reach the alcove with the rocket boxes near the exit. Or is there?
Rockets: which ones?
@@decino they are up on a ledge close to the exit, and they are indeed unreachable; we missed those items during testing. But so did you :-)
Oh yeah, I see them now. I thought they got lowered after pressing the switch.
This was really satisfying lol
34:15 - I would have run right past that without even noticing that one of the lights is off.
35:55 - My question would be "how did you even see that?!" That's super well hidden, I'd never have found it.
That was a very satisfying ending. Well done.
That one switch only raised a platform over the nukage. I hate switches that reset for no reason.
Panic run my favorite part.
*LETS FREAKING USE IT!!!*
Mandatory nukage was a bane to my existence. I haven't played doom in 10 years. Reinstall, it is time.
Good hunt, you've the rank of Venator Supremus.
"pushed some walls here..."
This isn't Wolfenstein/ROTT!
Kills a million things
"How many kills are left? 40???"
Decino 30 minutes into MAP19: "How many kills are left? 400???"
Literally me 30 minutes ago while doing my first MAP19 run.
@@decino hahahahahaha!
@@decino Literally you, lol, so true!
@@decino Do we have to wait til tomorrow for that run? Everyone wants the goods, Dinodude.
35:55 that gasp was awesome lol!
No I wouldn't recommend doing Dehydration as a blind run! Having already watched it twice it is long, almost exhaustingly so
At least you can't blame that level for being misnamed.
7:53 "YOU NEED ALL THREE KEYS TO OPEN THIS DOO"
"you can stop spawning in now" 😂
That switch behind the pillar was evil.
Good one. Nice work and it was fun.
The Mancubus hallway being followed up by TWO, count em, TWO Archviles was absolutely cruel and unusual. Especially with how those pillars are designed.
I actually think I found that Supercharge Secret and Arena by complete accident or I thought it was part of the normal level progression
The last shotgunner was f***ing destroyed.
That was cool to watch.
7:53 Hey, you need all three keys to open the doo!
Decino looking like jonah j jameson with that switch and the poor lonely shotgunner caught the dead end of the bfg for no reason
Witnessing Decino getting confused at the exact same spots I did made me feel oddly validated.
To think it wasn't the Icon of Sin or the Spider Mastermind, not the Cyberdemon the Arch-viles or even the Barons of Hell that were the true Devil in Doom, it was that one Mega Sphere the whole time.
Decino having 333 bullets in the 36th minute very doom fitting since when you double it it makes 666 .o.
31:00 actually you can glide through there :) though it's of course not the intended way.
30:55 Doomguy looks like Decino saying "That sucks"
I need to adopt your mindset for hunting secrets. Idk why, but I SUCK at finding secrets in classic Doom. In Doom 2016 I think I missed 3 secrets in the entire campaign, yet I still miss half the secrets in Doom II after playing it for over 20 years smh...
@decino you should do interactive play throughs cos I was talking/yelling at my monitor "No! It's THERE!"
Omg, that was impressive!
Nice you won it as first time you play it even hard secrets
I like the BGM for this stage
Buckle up folks, time for Map 19.
Will all your runs be blind from now on? Or is it just a change of pace?
He said it will depend on the maps - he will certainly practice the larger ones, but he will also play smaller ones blind at times.
If the map's short and the blind practice run was successful I'll upload it.
@@decino Gotcha
Making someone wait 7 minutes for a Super Shotgun is practically a human rights violation
At 10:18 somebody decided to add some Serious Sam to Decino’s Doom.
Decino, master of using the single barrel, is distressed for lack of a super.
I wish we could see your practice run for map19, just to hear you saying "the heck am I supposed to go now" a few dozen times :D
I find MAP19 to be kinda linear actually!
haha, this was amazing... I ate a lot of chocolate watching it lmao
no stop im at work right now :(
where you are at decino at 35:00, when you press it repeatedly that switch does not work anymore. just saying.
Don’t worry, Zero Master probably ran straight past the shotgun too, haha.
Keep going, blind runs are cool ;-)
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“Switches are good” hahahah
Maybe it's just me, but I'm not a fan of the blind runs. I'd rather see runs after at least one practice.
So I wonder if you do extermination day + brtual doom v21 ??
(edit)
Back again after 1 year
I never believe you was joking about that .. i thought you're planning what you gonna play on this channel for a long time but here we are
Congratulations on the 100k
At 100k subs.
That's a long road but I'll wait
@@decino the wait end here