Talib Kweli & Hopsin On 'Ill Mind,' Diss Tracks, Therapy, Religion, Tech N9ne | People's Party Full
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- In this episode of "People's Party With Talib Kweli," Kweli and Jasmin Leigh sit down with rapper, songwriter, record producer, and director :
HOPSIN
Here's what we got into:
• The low profile he's kept while making moves in the industry over the last decade.
• His song 'Lunchroom Cipher' being born from freestyle sessions at high school.
• Why Hopsin is proud of his old high school report card of F's and D's.
• The origin of his song 'Nollie Tre Flip' and letting skaters know he's down.
• The song 'Sag My Pants' dissing multiple mainstream rappers of the time.
• 'Kill Her' detailing his anger after a falling out with Ruthless Records.
• Dealing the the after-effects of his parent's domestic violence through therapy.
• The Hopsin persona being an embodiment of his true self with added sauce.
• Facing the irony of going to jail shortly after releasing 'Ill Mind 5'.
• His impression of Tech N9ne after meeting him for the first time.
• How making XXL's Freshman 2012 cover impacted his career.
• His song 'I Need Help' being a literal clear cry for help at the time.
• Walking out on a show in Fort Collins after reaching his boiling point.
• Dating and avoiding societal norms of pushes to settle down.
• Getting baptized into Christianity and moving away from the faith.
• Royce da 5'9" being a GOAT human being as well as an emcee.
• The feud with co-founder of Funk Volume Records, Damien "Dame" Ritter.
• 'Marcus' Gospel' stripping away the Hopsin persona revealing his true-self.
• 'You Should've Known' featuring DAX being one of his favorite collabs.
• Why he's been steering clear of releasing full albums and sticking to singles.
• The backstory to why he sports those signature white contacts.
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TIME STAMPS:
3:24 -- Hopsin speaks on the relatively low profile that he's kept while making moves in the industry over the last decade and that's why so many including Talib haven't had the chance to meet him until now. They also get into Hopsin's Panorama City upbringing and his song 'Lunchroom Cipher' being born from his days participating in freestyle circles back at James Monroe High along with rapper SwizZ. Jasmin goes on to tell us about the time she got stranded and broke her finger in Panorama City after a lesbian night in West Hollywood.
7:50 -- Hopsin's online post of his old high school report card of F's and D's is brought up. He gets into why he's proud of it today, his disdain for school throughout his years of attending, only having interest in skateboarding and hip hop, and being sent to special education. They talk about the lack of options in school for those that don't fit the norm and Hopsin's knowing early-on that school wasn't going to be an essential tool on his road to success. They also discuss if 12 years of school is really necessary and how early in life one could master a craft and join the workforce.
14:50 -- Hopsin explains the origin of his song 'Nollie Tre Flip'. They discuss his signature trick by the same name that he performs at his shows and the song's intention of proving that he's legit and shouldn't be labeled as a phony by the skateboarding community who haven't hesitated to call out others for not being down with the culture. Hopsin also speaks on his song 'Sag My Pants' dissing multiple mainstream rappers of the time, he tells if it was really all that personal and gets into his take on how a little bit of early ignorance is healthy for the growth of an artist.
21:08 -- Hopsin's song 'Kill Her' is brought up as they discuss it's context outlining his anger directed at Ruthless Records' CEO Tomica Wright. He speaks of his feelings of what a waste of time and energy it was as they (her) were constantly trying to take control of his persona. Hopsin is also asked about his song 'Story of Mine'. They discuss the song's illustration of his parent's cycle of domestic violence and the suicidal thoughts he experienced growing up. Hop explains how recent therapy has brought him to the realization of how those difficult formative years were the source of so many of the challenges he was dealing with.
31:15 -- Jasmin brings up how surprised she was of Hopsin's friendly demeanor, being such a stark difference to his rap persona. Hopsin goes on to talk about taking a gem from acting class when his teacher reminded him that if he wanted to be a successful rapper he would need to be a great performer. They go on to discuss the saying, "acting is like a lie that tells the truth", Hopsin being an embodiment of his true self with some sauce on it, Hopsin's happiest moments on his records as well as his 'Ill Mind Of Hopsin' series of singles and the coming final installment, 'Illmind X'.
36:04 -- Hopsin facing some backlash from listeners with the release of 'Ill Mind 5' is discussed, with him stating "A real n*gga stays out of jail". Hopsin gets into the irony he was faced with when he ended going to jail a few months after making the song and realizing then how truly messed up the system was. They go on to debate if the majority of rappers who talk about doing jail time are perpetuating for record sales or simply reflecting back the lifestyle that they're living, born out of their environment.
40:24 -- Hopsin tells about his first meeting with rapper Tech N9ne during his visit to the Strange Music headquarters in Kansas City and finding him to be the kindest rapper he's met aside from Logic. Hopsin's making XXL's Freshman 2012 cover is also brought up as he's asked if that exposure helped or hindered his career. They go on to discuss Hopsin's song 'I Need Help' being a literal clear cry for help expressing the pain he was going through at the time as well as his song 'Fort Collins' about his walking out on a show in Colorado when his depression reached a boiling point.
48:30 -- Hopsin's song 'Dream Forever' is brought up as Hopsin gets into how his perspective on love and relationships has evolved over the years. He gets into the issues he's run into while dating while he fully enjoys the freedom he has touring the world and talks about his wanting to deprogram himself from societal norms and avoid any pushes to settle down. He also gets into his experiences attending a ping pong show in Thailand not being what he expected and they all discuss if people should continue using the word 'p*ssy' derogatorily.
54:57 -- Talib brings up 'Ill Mind Of Hopsin 7' being similar to his own 'Give 'em Hell' with their paralel themes of criticizing organized religion. Hopsin speaks on his getting baptized into Christianity back in 2012 as well as his moving away from the faith when he realized he couldn't live his life by those rules. Hopsin talks about keeping his ears open to those that want to speak about their religion and how his spiritual beliefs have always been a constant evolution of thought. They also discuss the negative history as well as the positive roles that Christianity has played in the black community.
1:02:22 -- Hopsin gets into his take on Royce da 5'9" being not just a GOAT emcee but a GOAT all-around human being. They discuss Royce's wisdom and Talib's process of considering how Royce would approach every situation. Hopsin's lyrics to 'Ill Mind of Hopsin 8' is explored as they get into the feud and falling out he experienced with co-founder of Funk Volume Records Damien "Dame" Ritter. Hopsin talks about how the label he founded with Damien is unfortunately now defunct due to egos clashing and communication breakdowns between the two owners.
1:06:07 -- Hopsin speaks on his song 'Kumbaya' and the music video being shot during his visit to Thailand. They also get into the deep level of honesty that he shows on 'Marcus' Gospel', as it remains to be the only song in his catalog that strips away his Hopsin character completely and reveals him speaking from the standpoint of his true self "with no sauce added". They go on to discuss 'You Should've Known' featuring rapper DAX, that track being one of his favorite collaborations to date and they talk about Hopsin directing essentially all of his own videos.
1:08:46 -- Hopsin gets into why he has been steering clear of releasing full albums and sticking to singles. They discuss the short attention span of listeners these days as well as Hopsin's desire to eventually make an album that is structured in a way that it prompts the listener to hear it in it's entirety with each song serving a special purpose. He also speaks on the blood, sweat and tears put into every self-produced single he releases and how it's difficult for him to accept help from others on his projects. The interview closes out with Hopsin giving us the backstory to why he sports those signature white contacts.
can you interview jarren benton
He doesn't know me
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I’m the best in your lunch
Absolute legend for adding time stamps! Will definitely listen to the whole thing, but it’s nice being able to skip around as well.
How was his collaboration with NF not mentioned??
Salute to Talib for shouting out Lunchtime Cypher! Im the last verse on that song. Salute to my bro Hopsin 👊
“I’ll eat a rapper, fitted cap first then I spit out his tennis shoes”
Lunchtime was Ill vibes. Reminds me of highschool and that's kinda how I found ya gmo. Loved that song for years now.
You killed that! Sheeesh
🔥 verse always loved that one , I bought a dozen eggs from Safeway thru em at the fuckas the same day you can get it the same way 😆
Bro I been bumping that joint since it dropped, your verse goes hard 🔥
This is the best Hopsin Guest appearance on any show, Talib and Hop mixed really well and they both listened and responded great to each other I'd love to see another one
NoJumper one was great as well
Amen to that .. thinking the same thing
This is the dude that poses as Gucci Maine...
@@melonlovesyou He admitted it. And it's obvious..He is the guy who poses as Gucci Maine..
It would be dope to get a Hopsin X Talib Kweli feature collab tho 👌
Love Hopsin, his lyrical structure is so solid its hard to find holes in it. His word play is sensational and Talib said inspiring, I absolutely agree. I wrote some of my best lyrics after absorbing his vibe. Great interview.
That dude is real as f***, and that was an excellent conversation. I wasn't familiar, definitely a fan now.
said the same thing after I saw his NoJumper interview, and now this just adds to that. Check out that interview as well
Start with the 'RAW' album, and Gazing at the moonlight' then just go from there, you can really see his evolution heavily. This funk volume days where the best, because he brought the world Dizzy Wright, who was like my second favorite rapper ever for a while, he's for that old soul, you'll catch on to him as well.
I feel his vibe.
@@toxicbreez4277 I was trying to find his first album and emurge came up, is that not his first album?
@@unknownx7252 nahhh emurge is a project hopsin was never gonna release, his friend or something leaked it. Talks about it on the song You Are My Enemy. Start with Gazing at the moonlight
I'm satisfied Talib said Sag My Pants is our generations How to Rob 🤣🤣🤣 I love that shit
There is ALMOST no way to get too close to Hopsin. He is just simply U and I. Toooo dope. I love Hopsin.
Homie showed me hop's "Ill Mind of Hopsin 3" back in 2013. When Knock Madness came out, i started followin him and fucked with him ever since. Loved when people at my school who either didn't know Hop or said he was corny turned up on his "Ill Mind of Hopsin 8".
Keep it up Hopsin, hope you are and will stay in a better place 💯
Love and respect from Switzerland 🙏🏻❤
Big fan of Hopsin, when he breaks down any specific subject matter the execution is extraordinary, dude is not just a wordsmith, he’s a great thinker and applies it to his rhymes.
Love Hopsin. Love him even more for the fit looking like he came from a C&C Music Factory video
🤣🤣🤣
Good vibrations!!!!!!🤣🤣🔥🔥👍🏾👍🏾
pahahahahahahah
Hopsin is so ill.
One of my favorite rappers of all time.
This is such a beautiful, insightful interview. Shoutout Hop 🏆
gotta love Hop's energy here, dude is smiling the whole time
hopefully he will invest in that album idea, singles and videos have been dope and all that, but I feel like an album well structured would put him in more conversations
HE SMILING BECAUSE HE KNOW HE DA FAKE GUCCI MAINE..
The silver lining of the attention span of Singles vs. Albums is that now if you create or "direct" a body of work, it doesn't need to have a concrete length or a concrete number of songs. A 4-song, 7-song, or 9-song project that runs 13-25 minutes (or an hour if it all blends together) can be just as powerful as a classic 16-track album from yesteryear. There is a blessing and a curse of the streaming, consuming listener. You no longer need to fill every second of a compact disc to give the listener their money's worth.
This the Best Hopsin interview ever! You can tell that Talib is actually a fan as well 💯
I like this dudes music and he seems like a humble dude as well... Glad to finally see him in an interview.
I really really enjoyed tf out of this! Lots of laughs!! 🤣😂 Love Hop! Marcus Gospel is 🔥.
Amazing interview! This and the NoJumper one made me a big fan of him as a person, very genuine dude.
Great interview!!! This was so interesting!!! That "Ant" analogy was genius!!! I used to be into Hopsin right when I got back into Underground/Indy Hip Hop!! Although I haven't really listened to him in years, he's got mad skills and created a entire empire for real!!! He put his team on the map, this man deserves his flowers for sure!!! Very intelligent, down to earth soul!!! S/O to Talib!!! Killing the game with these interviews!!
This man’s a *Vietnam Lyrical Vet* Thank you Talib Kweli-One Half Of The Best HIP-HOP Underground Group Ever Black Star 💫 ☺️ 😊 🙏🏿
Hopsin might've had a hard time (at times) but with his rhymes. He transcends time. Keep on pushin baby.
This was mad entertaining lol. It was super dope to actually see hop.
Thanks Hop. Skateboarding brings people together. Fundamental force.
Much Love brother... HOPSIN...🔥🐐🔥
#THEBLACKEMINEM
Mad love to Hopsin. Hopsin rules. Been a fan since Hop was on Ruthless Records. Favorite album from Hopsin is Gazing at the Moonlight. Pans in the Kitchen is forever a DOPE ass song and video. Not only Hopsin is a awesome rapper and a awesome lyricist, he is an entrepreneur, a Father, producer and businessman. From Funk Volume and Undercover Prodigy, Hopsin is the truth. The Greatest of all time. Hopsin is a Rap Genius, an music artist in his own right and still doing Frooty Loops on the studio and beats. An avid skateboarder and living an extraordinary life that is straight edge lifestyle. I wrote a poem about Hopsin called Hopsin: Funk Volume King, and it's all love as a fan. Of all of the Rap Artists in the Rap Game, Underground or Mainstream media from Bone thugs-n-harmony, Esham, Tech N9ne, 3rd Bass, Wu-Tang Clan, Beastie Boyz, Fred Durst, Everlast, Ice-T, Insane Clown Posse ICP, 3 6 Mafia aka The Mafia 6ix, and Kid n Play etc. Hopsin is my number one choice, I can relate to Hopsin because I come from a poverty struggle and mental health issues but listening to Hopsin, Esham, Dizzy Wright, and Bone helped me cope with my mental health, but still have to take medication for my bipolar disorder, Autism, paranoia. Hopsin is an and still is a huge influence as a Afro-American male at the age of 36 and in my mid-30's. Hopsin is the King in my opinion in the Hip-hop movement and nation. Stay Up. Undercover Prodigy rules. Hopsin is forever Crunk and he is the truth. Uproxx TV rules and Talib Kweli rules. People's Party with Talib Kweli rules. U need to do Necro next after the Rap legends Bone thugs-n-harmony. Uproxx TV and RoxxxTV rules. I am a Underground Cat who loves Rap and the Hip-hop movement. Doesn't matter if u are Underground or Mainstream in the culture of Hip-hop as long as its ill and fiery DOPE. Mad love to Hopsin. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥. God bless Hopsin. Thank God for Hopsin. Peace, love, and Soul Brotha.
Dude don’t front like that lmao. You have not been a fan THAT long because no one new who he was when he was on ruthless
@@jtv199513 , true dat. But I been a fan of Hopsin because he is ill on the lyricism and as an Underground Cat, I been bumpin' Hopsin since Funk Volume days and today as an independent Rap Artist of his own label Undercover Prodigy. His last album he did called "No Shame" is DOPE. He even made fun of Mainstream Mumble Trap Rappers get a taste of their own medicine. No offense to Trap music but Hopsin rules. The only Mumble Trap Rappers I would listen to is Ouija Macc and Jarren Benton. Jarren Benton is a mix of Rap lyricism and Trap. But I also like Beat producers like Kato on the Track and Mike "Seven" Summers. Word is bond.
I almost choked reading this. beautiful poem my friend 🙌
Chill 😄
Absolutely incredible interview. Down to earth and 100% relatable. Thank you for having Hopsin on and @hopsin thanks for just being you.
Fit look like: backup dancer for Janet Jacksons Rhythm Nation video.
Ill Mind 7 really helped me ask the tough questions! Thank you!
I can agree on 1000000000% with this dude! Hopsin have been one of my favorite rappers among Masta Ace, NF, Eminem, Dr. Dre, etc. But what he said about relationships, that he accepted the idea that he can die alone, because he likes his freedom and the life for him is to travel and exploring new cultures... respect!
Greetings from Bulgaria!
I’m a big fan of Hopsin I met him in Philly and told him “nocturnal rainbows” was one of my favorite songs. Hope I get to work with you one day Hop. Love ya.
"...bitch you shoulda known" sent me...Appreciate kweli and his intros
Hopsin is ridiculously underrated as a giant in the hip hop community. This was very eye opening and salute to Talib, for having the dude on the show and open up a bit about his history and dig a bit into his ill mind. One of the greatest right there.
Hopsin have been my close icon in music industry. Lots of Love from Nigeria
When I heard Hopsin on a tech nine song it made me go back and listen to sag my pants and it sounded different. Like him getting that co-sign made Hopsin music sound better. Shit is crazy.
Talib: "Aliasha"
Jasmine: "I said that first guys"
Talib: "Good job Jasmine, another around of applause for Jasmine"
😭😭😭
Fantastic interview! Felt like I was there chillin with yall.. 👏👏👊
Woww this made me so happy! Shout-out to Hop for giving me a soundtrack in high school 🙏🏼 Jazmine a fool too 😂
Pretty good interview. One of your best.
never heard of that dude, but I'm glad I watched this. Totally a respectful guy.
For a legend like talib to say hop inspires him shows that hip hop legends such as em and him respect hop’s pen game even if he decides to keep to himself and stay underground thats big props
On the topic of Religion that took place here, Ras Kass said it best “what you need to know is that you’ll never know it all”
Finally an interviewer that actually ask questions about specific songs and meaning of lyrics!
Best Hop interview I've seen. Very informative and Talib done his research big time before coming into this - Asking questions covering his entire question and in depth catalog. Loved it 👌
Great interview . The insight is real! 💪💪🙌🙌
New subscriber here. From Black Star to now, i'm happy to see Talib and Yasiin still doing great things.
This is one of the best interviews i've seen - it introduced me to more of Hopsin's music. Hes so genuine that he over-explains so no one will confuse what he's said or twist his words.
Beautiful interview man! Damn!
Talib, you’ve really been surprising me with these guests this year so far. Been listening to Hopsin since Ill Mind 5. One of the realest in the game.
Another Dope Interview!!!! Great to see and hear the backstories, growth, and evolution!
For some reason, something told me to search up Hopsin on TH-cam. Didn't find new music but I came across this interview that just dropped yesterday 🤘
Hopsin has a super genuine smile. (No homo) His angry music is what I listen to at work to get through the day. Kind of funny how he had such low grades but still speaks with proper grammar unlike the straight A students I knew.
Hope I get the chance to meet him in my lifetime.
Never change, Hop. We fuck with you because you're you.
Wow Talib did amazing work with this interview. Top notch research.
But undermined his co-host the whole time. Ish kinda crazy
Hopsin is the true essence of hip hop ….I relate to em so much for so long I just hope the best for him in all his endeavors 🙏
Awesome ❤ I love Hopsin. He doesn't get enough shine. People don't really rap bars anymore or spit flame, I really appreciate him doing it the way he does, it reminds me of the way rap used to be, I grew up on Black Star, and Wutang, that was an amazing Era. It's funny, he had me thinking about Lupe Fiasco, I'd actually like to hear them both on a track with Talib.
Panorama City !!! Love seeing this dude
A Hopsin and Cappadonna song might be dope!! Great interview.
Hopsin has such a Gorgeous smile 😊
We all gotta reset at times, but owning it and making up for it makes you a better man for it.
Hopsin is actually a very likable dude
Respect from U.K. Hopsin is so damn entertaining and talented.
Fuck yes this was a beauty... Thanks for doing' it ya'll!!!
You know who has an awesome “rap hands” thing he does? R.A. The Rugged Man! That thing he always does always makes me laugh. If you know what I’m referring to you prolly just smiled or laughed too!
The growth is real I love to watch your character development. Been a fan since 2012 always been the realist 💕🖤👑
Hopsin used to bother me so much. I always knew he was a dope lyricist, but the dissing and negative shit used to be so off putting to me. I really appreciated this interview and his take on sag my pants and all that. Good shit. Whoop whoop.
So intresting watching a legend as specific as Talib poke into various eras of pop culture and directing the figures in it. Fucking great
super dope and fun conversation! real people
That's awsome to know Hospin was in Special ed class because I was in Special ed class I can resonate with what he is saying in primary school I got mostly e's on my report class so yes the education system is fucked up lets just say how it is I dropped out of high school too same here in 8th grade the stuff they treat you in school is not practical love this interview Daya from Australia
Really great interview. I was absolutely locked in.
This is a Dope interview 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I am a huge fan of hopsins work.. but to start off with kweli saying that hop inspires him.. damn what an honor that must be. Soooo.. when are you guys hoppin on the track together?
Really awesome interview. I relate to him on so many levels
Has some interesting tracks, but never gave his projects a full, complete listen. This interview should be informative
Same here
Great interview. Hopsin's smile though. It's so contagious 😄😄
I know Hopsin is super dope, I know some of his songs but I can’t say I really bump his music but I def will get on it after this interview. Smart dude. One of the best interviews of people’s party in my opinion
I remember Hopsin posted his number up and i called it and he answered we talked for 20mins it was around the time the 1st illmind of Hopsin came out
Marcus fucking Hopsin… ya did it again. I’ll follow you till the day I die. Too much of the same wave we share. Thank you for being you and be FOREVER Ill, STAY UP!!
Hop is full underrated and the guy in fact is DOPE!!
Why hopsin didn’t promote this, I just stumbled across this interview
This was a great interview, very dope an chill vibe
GREAT interview with HOP LOVE HIS BARS AND PERSONALITY KEEP IT UP HOPSIN
Im listening to this school conversation. I went to high school in NYC in the 80s and I was able to pick a (magnet) school with a major. You only went to a zone (general) school if you couldnt get into the "magnet" schools. NYC had a high school for EVERY area of careers you can think of (including the arts). I think Talib is in my age range and grew up in NYC, so Im not sure if he missed that experience. Jay-Z, Busta Rhymes, Biggie, Wise (from Stetsasonic) all when to my Engineering high school (even if they dropped out). Big up Westinghouse !!!
Dope Interview......Hopsin music is Real 🔥
Didn’t know to much of Hopsin, this interview helped…dope, cheers
Panorama City stand up!! 818 in the building!!
818 💯
818 baby
How am I just finding out about this interview now?
Hop praising Royce and Will Smith aged great 😂😂
As a core fan I love album songs nobody knows so I can put them on some of his slept on stuff u have to hear a couple times but then they b fire
Like The fiends Are knocking at my door, Nocturnal Rainbow etc some great music
This should have more views 😮
This is a great interview with an interesting guest!
Thanks for this !!!
How are teachers not being paid more by now?? Blows my mind. It's 2022 dammit. Let's get it together
Bro hop looks genuinely happy. Proud of you man :)
(Another) awesome episode! Thanks.
Patiently waiting
Hopsin needs to put out this album.....!!!!
This interview is SWA-EEEEEET❣️❣️❣️LOVE IT❣️Ole girl story was interesting too!😅Love you Hop❣️
yoooo I would've never guessed they would have Hop up here...then again...it's Kweli
Lots of laughs this interview. I loved it.
I'm on my husband's TH-cam so you can't see who's his fan, but hopsin sees at the skate park, that'll be where I listen to him. Let out all these feelings, I'm so glad to release, everything I built up, all this sorrow in me.
even tho I know barely anything about rap because of how young I am, I just love hearing emcees talk their experiences when off the mic
Lol