What if the Crimean War never happened? | Alternate History Special

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  • In today's Special 20-Minute long alternate history scenario we ask what if the Crimean war simply didn’t happen? Would the Ottoman Empire survive? Would this affect the alliance systems of Europe following the unifications of Germany and Italy? Would those unifications even occur?
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  • @DeanMonsieur
    @DeanMonsieur  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Do you guys enjoy long form videos or shorter videos?

    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Always long! Suggestion: What if Rudolf, crown Prince of Austria didnt commit S*icide?

    • @Seeker0fTruth
      @Seeker0fTruth 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      A good mix of both!! Some subjects require more in-depth analysis, others are just as enjoyable using a shorter version. Enjoying the great content!

    • @peterdicak9133
      @peterdicak9133 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Longer are better, more details and longer timelines are always welcoming

    • @user-kt8yp5ho2y
      @user-kt8yp5ho2y 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Longer videos are best of all :)

    • @nl396
      @nl396 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Long.

  • @pascalbaryamo4568
    @pascalbaryamo4568 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    “The Slavs were all orthodox” - angry occupied Poland noises

    • @anvos658
      @anvos658 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Yeah.
      Also not sure about any Austrian agreement that lets Russia have a chance to expand its influence into Ottoman lands without demanding their Polish buffer state.

    • @youthoughtaboutit6946
      @youthoughtaboutit6946 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Also angry Croatian, Slovenian and Czech noises

    • @CowboyMikeShow
      @CowboyMikeShow 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I'm assuming he meant the ottoman slaves

    • @CowboyMikeShow
      @CowboyMikeShow 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Slavs* fucking autocorrect

    • @Silver_Prussian
      @Silver_Prussian 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      We will convert them

  • @romeosgs1452
    @romeosgs1452 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    France would absolutely never join with the german because of the brits.
    They would immediately, instantaneously join Russia and Austria.

  • @hotchocolateconnoisseur
    @hotchocolateconnoisseur 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    I LOVE BULGARIA 🇧🇬

    • @singoller3749
      @singoller3749 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      LONG LIVE BULGARIAA🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬❤️❤️❤️❤️☦️☦️☦️💪💪💪

  • @user-kt8yp5ho2y
    @user-kt8yp5ho2y 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    What if Russia expands their territories to North America(British Columbia, Alberta, Sasktwachan, and Washington) in Peter the Great?

  • @leigon.
    @leigon. 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    what if Catherine the Great's plan of (essentially) a greek Tsardom of Byzantium was succesful?

    • @DeanMonsieur
      @DeanMonsieur  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Check out this channel’s first video

    • @singoller3749
      @singoller3749 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Russia created greece

    • @leigon.
      @leigon. 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @DeanMonsieur oh awesome didn't see it, thanks for pointing it out

  • @nl396
    @nl396 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I can't imagine Bismark letting Germany grow this close to Britain and France if it meant making the empire more liberal, same for Wilhelm I. And Wilhelm II would never accept an alliance unless Edward VII didn't go out of his way to antagonize him, which he wouldn't. The German Empire would have begrudgingly grown closer to Russia via Austria.

    • @Pebble3007
      @Pebble3007 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Edward VII was enjoying himself too much in Paris, but his Government was more interested in an Anglo-German Alliance.

  • @Seeker0fTruth
    @Seeker0fTruth 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Yessssss!!! Fresh upload!!

  • @pedrem0
    @pedrem0 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your edition is impeccable. Absolutely love it

  • @epiccrusadr8583
    @epiccrusadr8583 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Unfathomably based timeline

  • @rustr01
    @rustr01 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I heard an interesting phrase about the Crimean War:"The price is too high to write on Wikipedia "the defeat of Russia." Because apart from the neutralization of the Black Sea, there have been no other major changes.

  • @wind5938
    @wind5938 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This was a great video I enjoy the longer type of content and maps. A part two would be very cool going over a Great War in this universe and possible outcomes

  • @asgard13
    @asgard13 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What if Russia industrialized earlier?? Just like Britain or Germany in the 19th Century??

  • @zaukonig6265
    @zaukonig6265 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really love how these videos aren’t just 90% obscure history lesson, but actual content

  • @swedichboy1000
    @swedichboy1000 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What if The German empire and Austro-hungarian empire merged?

  • @SretroOfTheNortheast
    @SretroOfTheNortheast 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I demand part 2!!!!!

  • @user-yl8cx9iq2d
    @user-yl8cx9iq2d 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What if Napoleon Bonaparte decide to return to corisca and decide to conquered all italian territories

  • @xwinner4432
    @xwinner4432 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    You made mistake in video and called Aleksandr 2 Nicolas 2

  • @josephharrison5639
    @josephharrison5639 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    What if Japan became an American territory post ww2

  • @user-xz5xy6pk6q
    @user-xz5xy6pk6q 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is this your second channel?

  • @redwater1995
    @redwater1995 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Cool video though I think there was a misspoken part about 1min in where you say all slavs are orthodox which of course isnt true with people like the poles being primarily catholic and bosnians having large if not majority Muslim followers.

    • @bumblingbureaucrat6110
      @bumblingbureaucrat6110 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think he was just explaining the panslavist view of Russia which has always attempted to impose Russian Orthodoxy upon their Catholic Polish and Ukrainian subjects. So in the eyes of the Russian Imperialists attached to Panslavism all Slavs *were* Orthodox or at least would be soon

  • @anvos658
    @anvos658 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Okay with the longer format, but feels like Austria would have demanded more, such as their Polish Buffer State, to let Russian Friendly rebellions happen on their Balkans Border.

  • @msgaming2007
    @msgaming2007 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Could you explore the idea of Dusan nemanic living longer

    • @lunalingo4461
      @lunalingo4461 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      we would probs see a neo serbian eastern roman empire

    • @msgaming2007
      @msgaming2007 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@lunalingo4461 Probably

  • @randomguy6152
    @randomguy6152 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What if Crassus conquered Persia

  • @MappingLore2024
    @MappingLore2024 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What if the ottoman empire didn't joined ww1 and remained neutral or idk what if they didn't joined germany

  • @carterfield8150
    @carterfield8150 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Imagine this as a HOI 4 mod.

  • @DR.CONDOM-BREAKER445
    @DR.CONDOM-BREAKER445 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great video if you dont mind whats a good map maker

    • @DeanMonsieur
      @DeanMonsieur  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Paint 3D is great for high quality maps, Paint.net is a great free alternative, and for pre made maps you can edit, you can always use Map Chart or a similar website

    • @DR.CONDOM-BREAKER445
      @DR.CONDOM-BREAKER445 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@DeanMonsieur thanks 👍

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Survinging Habsburg Empire always makes me happy! Thanks ❤❤❤❤

  • @WestFrontPro.OFFICIAL
    @WestFrontPro.OFFICIAL 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    No disrespect meant here but the map is inaccurate with the Austria-Prussian-Russian borders. Either a good chunk of Silesia has been put into Poland or Galicia or the shape is off. Prussia is also missing Memel. Again, no offense meant!

    • @hotchocolateconnoisseur
      @hotchocolateconnoisseur 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think it’s just his simplified aesthetic tbh, because all the borders look kind of geometric

    • @oliverhendrix8176
      @oliverhendrix8176 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think it might also a Modern Subdivisions map might have been used as the starting point at least for the Austro-Russo-Prussian Border.

    • @nexustheninja1927
      @nexustheninja1927 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I was gonna say it looked really weird. Admittedly I was gonna let it slide since it seems like nobody gets memmel right, but then i looked at Silesia and now im confused at to why it looks like that.

  • @zakthebigmac1431
    @zakthebigmac1431 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    what if germany never attacked the allies?

  • @zshivkonezshivkov380
    @zshivkonezshivkov380 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think you meant - In bulgatian Thesaloniki, now known as Solun.

  • @crusader2112
    @crusader2112 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Wait. Jakub Pedersen? Didn't you have a channel that discussed Distributism?
    A.E.I.O.U. Long Live the Habsburgs!

    • @DeanMonsieur
      @DeanMonsieur  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      😉

    • @crusader2112
      @crusader2112 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DeanMonsieur 😉👍

  • @planetarystargazer
    @planetarystargazer 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

    What If Siberia was a Chinese 🇨🇳 colony

    • @marcuslo4836
      @marcuslo4836 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      It isn’t?

    • @garolka
      @garolka 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      What if China just took all of Asia

    • @NikasInParis_777
      @NikasInParis_777 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@garolka dude Asia is huge 😦

    • @Quryam
      @Quryam 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@marcuslo4836 it isn't, for now...

    • @marcuslo4836
      @marcuslo4836 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Quryamexactly my point

  • @THEAmateurSommelier
    @THEAmateurSommelier 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    🤨 did he forget Alexander II and III?

  • @IAkaksjdjtjeidi
    @IAkaksjdjtjeidi 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    5:31 is where the alt history part starts

  • @NovaSoldier
    @NovaSoldier 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the map at the beginning is wrong, by that point Sardinia hadnt ceedend yet savoy and nice to france

  • @zironthegamer
    @zironthegamer 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What if PMR aka transnistria was a communist state

  • @bigz4302
    @bigz4302 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Now flip side: whay if the Russian army just absolutely steamrolled their opponents

  • @brm5844
    @brm5844 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Based and Bulgariapilled

  • @maxwalker1159
    @maxwalker1159 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    !

  • @bernhardjordan9200
    @bernhardjordan9200 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If the Habsburgs entered a personal union with the Romanovs around after the Napoleonic wars

  • @soldatodins4658
    @soldatodins4658 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Poland,Slovakia, Czechia, sorbs, Croats, Macedonians, and Bosnians weren’t Orthodox.

    • @veljkovujic5807
      @veljkovujic5807 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Macedonia ecclesisastically belongs to Constantinople since Constantine V (VIII century) and much of Bosnia is orthodox since 13th century, more so after ottoman conquest (it was easier for catholics to emmigrate).

    • @AndrejZafirov
      @AndrejZafirov 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Then what were macedonians?

  • @MMerlyn91
    @MMerlyn91 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Oh look, another Mr. Z video where Russia gets bigger and bigger and eats up other states, this guy definitely isn't a Russian shill lol.

    • @DeanMonsieur
      @DeanMonsieur  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      What other topics would you be interested in watching videos about?

    • @lunalingo4461
      @lunalingo4461 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      whats wrong with that tho?

    • @anvos658
      @anvos658 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@lunalingo4461 Well this one, just seems somewhat unrealistic that Austria doesn't demand their Polish buffer state as part of keeping the balance, given letting rebellions that create likely pro-Russian states happen is effectively the same bad situation for Austria as Russia taking it directly.

    • @lunalingo4461
      @lunalingo4461 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@anvos658 im not much of an expert in this topic, so i haven't got much to argue with. i'll do my research and do the rest

  • @shanequeen5003
    @shanequeen5003 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What flag was tht with the black sun