SALT CURE SALMON EGGS RECIPE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2024
- a demonstration of the salmon egg salt curing method i used for over 20 years to catch a boatload of salmon trout and steelhead - stream hardening. be sure to check your local d.e.c. regulations as to possesion off trout and salmon eggs on your local streams and rivers .some states have quantity limits and special regulations pertaining to salmon and trout eggs , egg removal .
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I always rewatch this every time before curing eggs. 🤣 Such a simple and awesome cure. 👍
You're not alone
Ya works great there was another way they turn out like this Aswell I can't remember how I use to do it for some reason I think I would boil water and drop them in for 45 seconds or something ... But now I really dunno if that's real but what ever it was it made them like little bouncy balls lol
I come back and look for deffrent cures and end up watching this video again every year
still works 👍👍
I watched this video last year and cured my eggs this way and the eggs turned out really well. I took them out of the freezer this year and they were perfect.
I was started to loose hope. I tried everything and nothing was working. Then I used this method with Canning/ Pickling Salt and the cured eggs turned out amazing!!! Thank you
Excellent!👍
I've cured with salt & sugar before. Even straight borax. Never tried salt exclusively. I'll have to give this a shot sometime. Thanks for posting this! Great video!
So I just finished curing and tying some fresh salmon eggs. WOW!! Thus process turned out awesome. Thx for the info. Eggs are firm, natural and tie up beautifully. Can't wait to go try them now!! Thx again! Tight lines
That's very good of you to share your secrets cant wait for your cold weather videos they really keep me going over the months I can only fish thru the ice.
The master continues to leave the apprentices tidbits.... thanks Bill
You are very welcome👍
The salt cure method works well for Steelhead eggs as well...I don't stream harden them because my sons and I enjoy them for dinner on occasion. So if I decide to keep a female (most steelhead we do release), I'll remove the eggs during the cleaning/filleting process. Scrape the eggs from the membrane, then add the loose eggs to cold water, and add straight-up table salt. From experience, steelhead seem to prefer their own eggs over everything else. Cannibals!
i never tried it with steelie eggs - good to know
@@BillMikesAnglingAdventures They're much smaller, 20+ eggs per sack. Over the years my overall catch rate has been higher on steelhead eggs than salmon. I definitely do not condone killing trout for their eggs...only really makes sense if you're planning to keep/eat the fillets (which are very tasty if you enjoy fish/seafood...milder and more tender than salmon, no health advisories that I'm aware of...just don't eat anything out of Burt or the Lower Niagara).
I appreciate the video. Informative and straight to the point. I'll be trying this today.
Update: I followed these instructions with my own additions (jello as dye for colored eggs) and it was a success. Again, thanks for the clear and straightforward video.
sounds good - sometimes i just use food coloring and maybe sprinkle a little borax on them before i store em in the freezer
***** Thanks for the additional tip. I'll try that next time!
Cant wait for your winter fishing videos. Good luck this season. I'm ready for some Ohio steel.
LOL "they smell like.. I wanna eat one". Thanks for the vid, never tried salt curing my eggs before but will do so next opportunity. Keep the awesome videos coming!
You should!👍🏼
Great video Bill, thx for all the info.i will try this hopefully soon! I have hooked into 3 salmon so far this year at the oak and landed 0. It's ok though I'm still having fun!
Hello, just a question, where do you get those little mesh things that you tie 4 or 5 eggs together? Love your videos by the way!
thank you so much for this video my eggs turned out great by far the simplest most effective cure I've used
Go to a hobby shop and buy Tulle material. $3.00 buys enough for a lifetime.
Thanks for sharing the recipe, it worked great on salmon eggs!!!
it never fails , thanks for watchin
Amazing how perfect yet simple this cute method is
Thank you! 😊
Very informative, Bill. Good luck this year with the steel heads. Don
I didn't know it was so easy this way, thanks for the information!!
You bet!👍🏻👍🏻
I need to find a way to get some eggs. There arent any salmon around here, or at least not in any real numbers to where you can get one if you put in the time. Im curious how trout eggs would work, but id rather stick with what I know and thats salmon eggs. I live about 45 minutes away from the closest erie tributary that gets a run so most bait shops you're just happy if they carry any egg sacks at all so you cant get smaller ones or larger depending on the river conditions
trout eggs work good but i dont use them - i mainly catch and release and cant see killing trout just for theyre eggs
Thanks buddy, I've tried all sorts of cures but haven't had much success besides the brown sugar, borax, salt brine. Haven't tried using just salt, but I shall thanks again.
Thank's Bill- can't wait to try this! did rowe before and it sucked. have a great one! Can't wait to get out for em asap!
Just wondering if that is chlorinated, water you the eggs with. Thanks. Love your videos!
Yes tap wate! but they still work
thanks i just caught my first trout and it was pregnant... so i went to your vid and it helped
Great videos, How would I store these cured eggs after I tie them in spawn net? Fridge,freezer? will they be like a mushy blob after taking out of freezer? Thank you
thanks man - if your not using them right away i store them in small jars in the freezer until im heading out fishing - they usually thaw by the time i get to the creek and they look just like when i first tied them. if you want to store them in the fridge id cover them with borax first
ok thank you, I can just dust them with borax if i wanna keep them in fridge,then rinse and tie in spawn net?
i dont rinse just leave them covered
Great video man. What kinda shape are the creeks in over in wny? Any browns or bows in yet? I'd think it will be another month or so. Our creeks up near toronto are looking pretty good, lots of chinooks, but we don't usually get as many steelhead as early as you guys do. Did a bit of chinook salmon fishing a couple of weeks ago, uploaded a video too. Take care man.
the report said it moderate flow so not bad and there catch good numbers of salmon and trout
Thank you for sharing. I always watch this. Should we keep in freezer or in fridge? I want to keep for long.
👍 i keep them in the freezer in smaller containers thern thaw a few hours before tying sacks
@@BillMikesAnglingAdventures Thank u. Can we use salt water if its not river cure? I mean if the roe is with membrane can we use Salt water to cure them?
dodnt work as good on the eggs with membrane / skein - i use pro cure for those type
Nice Video, but why non iodized salt? And what happens if I use iodized salt?
thanks, i used it once but i just always heard its best using non iodized
Thanks m8
yea we wanna get a salmon early and since what we heard the ontario tribs are doing kinda good
How do you store them, do you like just freeze them in the baby food bottles? Or in just in the fridge cause what happens when i freeze them with a previous cure(not yours) is that gets mushy btw your cure works like a charm they will not pop! I need so much force just to pop one, Subscribed 👍
i freeze them in baby food jars or zip lock bags - never had an issue with them gettin mushy - they wont last too long in the fridge
How long will these last in the fridge??? I cured my eggs this way today and they turned out flawless.. thanx for posting the how to..
they dont last too long in the fridge but you can freeze and thaw repeatedly - i keep them in smaller containers - enough for a fishing trip like baby food jars and sandwich bags . to keep longer in fridge you would have to add borax to them
@@BillMikesAnglingAdventures Ok that is good to know I had to use 2 cheese wiz jars cause thats what the wife gave me.. lol So I will just thaw till they are loose take what I need and pop them back in the freezer..
thats fine
Hey Roadsnake I used your method on curing eggs and tying egg sacs. Also I been using single eggs too. Im using them in the creeks for trout and not doing good at all. People next to me catching lots of trout showing me up. Im really disappointed in the eggs I used. I thought these eggs were trout killers. Im so upset over this.
Angelo Maiorano it works for me - have you ever caught a trout before ?
***** I pound trout. Been trout fishing for 27 years. I never do steelhead up erie because I live in pgh and don't want to drive all way up erie and drive back in same day. But I heard egg sacs and single eggs pound stocked trout. Theres this guy that sells eggs out of his house that I just found out about. I went to few creeks and lakes with the single eggs/egg sacs this year and caught no more then 2 trout each time I went on these eggs. I catch all my trout on 3inch trout worm tip with mags, wax worms or butter worms. Also catch trout on lures. I do really good but the eggs aren't comin thru like I thought they would. I went to Montour ck last Saturday in the tournament they held and the eggs let me down big time
I'm going to try this recipe on the north west coast
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perfect can you do this process with a scraped skein?
scraped eggs are probably better with pro cure or similar - theyre kind of soft
do you let them dry out anywhere in that process or before storing them in the freezer?
no i just pack them into small jars and freeze them
Bill & Mikes Angling Adventures nice I'm going to have to try a batch this way. do you ever add any sweets in with the salt?
i dont but my brother adds sugar and food coloring to the mix - works good for him
How about a pint jar for bulk storage. Have you done anything larger than a baby food jar? ALSO, I plan on refrigerating quite a few eggs for immediate tying, xand wondering if the salt cure will hold fresh eggs for perhaps 4 - 6 months. Missed you on the Catt last week. Thanks for a reply Bill!
I understand I'm not really trying to cause the fish any unnecessary harm, this was something I was thinking of doing with salmon only anyways. Thx for the tips and the response
Very nice vid. Is this method also work for skein?
thanks 👍 - no , better off using procure or pautskees when it comes to curing skien
thanks for a great tip. cant wait to used them this week I did your recipe with steelhead eggs. and tie them with chartreuse small bags for local trout fishing taking my 7year old and try them in a good local stream i know with some real nice trouts.. thanks. thanks will keep you posted how did it work.
After you rinse the eggs of any salt you put them in the freezer to thaw?
yes
I did my eggs like you did many times and they turned out great. Last time most of them turned into rubber balls. Why? Any way to save them?
sometimes my eggs are like that from stream hardening too long but they still catch fish
why buy expensive cure products full of fishing store? I'll not buy anymore those gimmicks and gadgets. This very simple method and works as I can see. Thanks
Thanks a lot for sharing. Still use the same cure ? Love your vidoes been a sub for ever. Safe to say u got my hooked
thanks man , same salt cure iv;e always used
There a technique called spooning, look it up. You pretty much use a spoon to separate the egs.
This may be a dumb question but could I use perch eggs somehow for sacs? Would the steelhead know the difference? I don’t really keep the fish so don’t have access to eggs aside fro buying them. I do catch alot of perch ice fishing and just about every one’s usually loaded with eggs. One problem I would think is holes in mesh being too big. Just wondering. Awesome videos!
i dont think perch eggs would work but ive seen stranger things
You've never had problems with freezer burn from not being vacuum sealed. I dont have a sealer,but most people say they have to be.
i been curing and freezing eggs for 30 years , never had any problem with freezer burn - just make sure you fill the jars or zip lock bags completely
Right on. Thanks for the help.
Mike after you bleed your fish I noticed you river hardened your eggs wich were loose eggs, Question can I just put the egg sacks from the fish in a zip lock bag and river harden them that way then scrape them from the skein when I get back to the motel room and then salt cure them ? thanks.
not sure
Nice Video Bill, Tommorow going to the Oak orchard, where are you going ?
Hey bill 👋, i have a problem with my stream hardening it would be amazing if you could me out, the problem is when i stream harden why does my eggs turn white, what am i doing wrong?
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Yea we might hit art park, where are you going today ?
Great video! Tried this and eggs came out great!
thanks man
Good info....i plan a few trips up this fall and his will help out later in he year!
I tryed this Method last year. But the cured eggs will be at fishing in 5 minutes turn to white. What was wrong. They was in the defreezer for 1 Year. If i put it in a glass with cold water and took them in the refrigator it still ok.
Only when im fishing takes to white.
thats odd - must be somethin with the water
Thanks for the video!! So if I understand correctly these eggs should always be stored in the freezer unless your tying sacs?
thats right - you could always add some borax to them before you store them to make them last longer without spoiling
Bill & Mikes Angling Adventures Thanks for the reply. My eggs came out great. Can't wait to try them if we ever get some rain!
Excellent tip my friend, ..thanks for that, love the vid.
will they pop if i use singles on a hook ????or are these mainly for egg sacks making?????
sacks only ✌️
will be headed for burts dam . Maybe we will see you there . oct 14-17
we went to a lake erie tib this weekend - how did you make out there with the low clear conditions ?
Bill & Mikes Angling Adventures It was slow friday sat . Today that little rain had the fish really running hard to the dam . I used your egg curing advise . Worked great . All your videos are great help . Lots of big steelhead and browns as well as salmon were being caught at the dam . Last day here is tomorrow . If you are out and about ill be fishing right in the turbine of the dam . Thanks for all your advise .
thanks for the update man - probably head out next weekend - hope the fish are biting for ya tomorrow
Bill & Mikes Angling Adventures what size hook for steelhead and how u attach spawn sacs?
Can you do this with parts of the membrane left in chunks?
i have in the past
No se si lo dice el vídeo, solo se curte con sal?, pues No se ingles y otra pregunta, también se podrá curtir el huevo de trucha arcoiris y como se podría conservar para utilizarlo en pescas futuras, y última pregunta, se podrá darle color con pintura vegetal de comida
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Great video no nonsense right to the point thanks you saved my eggs!
Glad it helped!👍🏼
Hey Bill, how to you collect the egg?
Squish them straight out of the salmon?
Or do you clean them from the skein with a spoon?
So far what I’ve collected from the skein with the spoon didn’t end up that good:(
squish the fish lol - when theyre ready the eggs just start pouring out when its time , never had a lot of luck with the skien spooning
Do you add any sort of “juice” to the container of tied spawn bags?
no just the eggs
Hi there, what is your storing method for the eggs in the jars? Do you remove all the air out to prevent freezer burn? Or do you just simply screw the top on the jar and throw them in the freezer?
i over fill them slightly and screw the top on - never had an issue with freezer burn
@@BillMikesAnglingAdventures ohh okay okay. I will try! I used this method to cure my steelhead eggs and they turned out awesome! I'm actually going to try them tomorrow. Thanks for the reply!
good video sir, I messed up mine again, simple to add water right away was the only problem. I just cured with borax left out to dry for a long time, the company said 2-48hrs, whatever ended up with soft eggs that pop, however they did catch fish. I re-did your way with my eggs and they are much harder, tried the same with the spawn sacs I already made will that work? I will find out soon, sure it can't be any worse. Do you do the same thing curing skein?
+Sunny Biga thanks man im not sure with the sacks but i cure skein the same way but leave it out on paper towels to get a little firm so it aint so gooey
+Bill & Mikes Angling Adventures My eggs i had before were a lost cause since they weren't stream hardened, just made them last long enough till i got another female, that being a Brown and the eggs turned out fantastic. Thanks again for the video. I had guides, bait shops always say no don't put them in water, well that is what you have to do to begin with. Is there a difference between King, Coho, Brown and Steelhead eggs? I know the Salmon are bigger but Browns and Steelies eggs work good as well.
Like curing this way as well, question about eggs since I got a bad batch of eggs from a Trout, is it common to get bad eggs? Kind of like skein that is white and several eggs were salmon eggs size so larger, loose eggs were like you had them in the water for half hour they were white, sad and grossed out when I opened up that fish beautiful Brown Trout horrible eggs never seen bad eggs like that, like moldy looking skein, can't explain it but it was disgusting. Never had a problem with fish eggs any species of Trout/Salmon even Sucker eggs I have used for Catfish, never seen such an awful scene, should have taken a picture, maybe fish had a horrible illness.
not that common but ive got salmon with eggs that seemed like they were filled with sand grit and had what looked like little stones in them - i threw them out , also had the oversize salmon eggs that were like mush to the touch
Do plastic bags work for freezing too?
in a pinch i have used the tiny zip lock bags , just completely fill so no air left in bag
Great video thanks
You bet✌️
Bill & Mikes Angling Adventures, I really like your channel
how did you get the eggs separated? usually with the salmon i catch the eggs are still in the enclosed skein, and i would have to remove each and every egg by hand lol
Nice Video Bill, Tommorow going to the Oak orchard, where are you going ? For cureing im gonna try the Pauzke cure im using naturel
Vanouhi
today the river and all the Creeks were frozen over but I still got two
beats a skunkin any day
Hey Mike when is the next time you are going fishing I'm right upstate Near Brockport NY
I would like to tag along...
Did you just use tap water?? Some guys say tap water is no good because of chlorine and whatever else I guess I didint catch what water you used
i used tap water , maybe my eggs would be even better with spring water lol
@BillMikesAnglingAdventures well I just cured some fresh with little mannistee river water and some spring water I'll report back ,
Does it matter what size your eggs are
not really - the size of the sacks i tie and color is more important to me
Thanks for sharing, great method.
thanks
@@BillMikesAnglingAdventures I do charters out of Erie,PA and fish the tribs. Your egg info is tremendous. Thanks again.
Thank's bro! hopefully we'll get out soon! GO SABRES!!!
nice video Billy,very educational!!!! thanks a lot
Hi Mike, complete the curing method as shown by you, then kept in freezer(meat freezing). today saw that it getting stuck each other. I am concerned please advise.
its fine , no concerns
Can you do this to eggs that have already been cured and have gone soft?
unfortunately it dont work once they've gone soft
So Bill Where did you go today ?
Is it legal to just walk on the beach and collect the dead salmon after spawn and cut them and take the eggs? Is there any place where that's illegal?
what size and type hooks you recommend for kings on smaller river and streams in the fall?
midwestoutdoorsman i normally use size 10 eagle claw wide bend lazer sharps
Is it normal for eggs to shrink a little bit with this cure?
they pucker up then plump back up after absorbing moisture from rinsing
Bill & Mikes Angling Adventures oh ok and I left a few bags in the fridge to tie and after using this method of curing they were really tacky and stickin together is that normal?
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR INFORMATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Didnt really get that much at the oak, there werent to many salmon and barely no brown trout so it was kinda early its ok
How u doing bill a got question thes capable week I been useing ur cur but with steel eggs i just not been having look u think it the eggs do I got used salmon eggs?
i dont think it would be the eggs - i cure my brown trout eggs the same way .
are other guys around you catching fish while your not ?
Yea last Saturday there was one that got 5 catching n release N capole more got there own do u got Facebook
no i never got a facebook . i dont know what to tell ya about the eggs man - they always seem to work for me cured that way
fantastic video my man
Very good informative video my friend
can you use those eggs fished single only ???or will they Pop
they're firm but will pop if put on a hook
Bill & Mikes Angling Adventures can I use sea salt to cure my eggs?
i not sure if its the same - i only use canning salt or non iodized table salt
How important is the stream hardening part of the process. Considering the regulations, is there any way you could get the same result if you were to bring your fish home with you and then try to harden the eggs or is the best way gut and stream harden immediately. Also have you ever tried to milk you catch to get the eggs and then release your fish back to the stream. Just curious about the process and if you've ever tried it, I know you are mainly catch and release fisherman
He probably milked the eggs because the fish is ready to spawn.
He probably milked the eggs because the fish is already ready to spawn
I already stopped the curing proses can I still put them in cold water and get them plump
you could but only a few minutes - they should absorb the moisture and plump back up
Great video . I sure appreciate the tip .
Could you do this with skein?
no , better off with pro cure or borax with skein
@@BillMikesAnglingAdventures Thanks a lot! I cured my loose eggs with the salt cure, caught a nice hen steelhead today. Simple and it works.
Could u use fountain water to harden membrane?
i dont think so - you need to harden them soon after you get the fish
Bill & Mikes Angling Adventures darn I get than from the lake in the summer so they r a pain to get out of the skein
Finger lakes Fishing using a spoon, scrape the membrane side of the skein, the eggs will fall right off. Not saying it's the best way, but it works for me when the fish doesn't have loose eggs already
Should have showed how ya tie em up too good video tho love all ur vids
How do you separate the eggs from the membrane?
i use the eggs from mature fish with loose eggs
Use a spoon to pull them off the membrane.
Are these eggs firm enough to pierce with a hook, and trout fish with?
No
Can you river cure skein eggs
i wouldn't recommend it for skein
How do you separate the eggs from the membrane before you stream harden the eggs?
this is mainly for loose eegs
i get mine at gander mopuntain or dicks sporting goods but bass pro and cabeleas carry the spawn net too
***** Can I just use borax instead of non idozine salt?
Bill & Mikes Angling Adventures tr
can you freeze them after you cure and then tie spawn sacs after they thaw or do you suggest tying spawn sacs before freezing them?
i freeze a jar of loose eggs then thaw to tie them but i often refreeze the leftover sacks i dont use and theyre fine when i thaw them again